>>97709563
She pulled up her sleeve and stuck her arm all the way in.
They build them different in Russia.

Can we have a little philosophical discussion on Disciplines? I just wanted to know where you stand on the ongoing debate on their origins.
I've grouped Cainites into three main positions, their names are my own invention, and my real original contribution to the conversation.
A) Genetics. Mendelians believe a Cainite from Clan A will sire a Cainite from Clan A, which explains why the abilities and weaknesses can be inherited even if the Childe never meets his or her Sire. Any and all deviation from this, such as the origin of different bloodlines and a Clan Cainite siring a Caitiff, is explained as a "mutation."
This is the mainstream position, held by most Cainites across the generations in both the Camarilla and Sabbat.
B) Tabula Rasa. Blank-statists attack the notion that the Embrace gives a Cainite his or her definitive shape, and believe a Cainite's abilities are acquired from his or her environment. Nurture above nature. This would explain why some diverge from "what their genetics say they are", and end up imitating the powers and weaknesses of those that adopt them.
This is a position held by vampires by from different backgrounds, such as those raised in English-speaking majority countries, stoic and neo-stoic thinkers, Anarchs, constructivists such as college-educated Neonates from France and the coastal States of the US, and, I wouldn't know why, Lilins.
C) Innatism. Platonists believe virtually all the potential to use and learn a Discipline, any Discipline, is already present in our vitae, so if we can't use all of them presently, it's not because we belong to the wrong bloodline, but because we "forgot", and whenever we learn a new Discipline we're simply "reminiscing." This includes even abilities attributed to Caine himself such as the creation of entire new Disciplines, and they point to thinbloods developing strange powers to support of this theory.
This position seems prevalent among Noddists and other scholars, I have to admit it won me over.

>>97710734
This kind of idiocy is what the Camarilla secularism led to: debating about what should be obvious. Next we will have some liberal madman blabbering about how Thinbloods and Caitiff are equal to pureblooded Tzimisce, Lasombra and Ventrue. Or some kindred muttering about some "kine are people too". Caine preserve us.

>>97710750
This is not about equality, rather, it's about the origin of our differences. The answer to the question: "why is it that one such pureblood could fail to sire another?"

>>97706876
He managed to use a degree of his own blood and allowed it to age as a sort of agent. His liquor was... Passed over by for us, though I assume it is safe to drink as he has customers in the Free State. What was more impressive was the ice cream as he somehow got the cream to work.
Also, thanks. Might explain why despite the stone Gün is delicate. At least as far as we go.

>>97707452
We're just doing advertisements now?

>>97709497
I doubt it was anyone else given the revelry that we found in the wrecked Elysium.

>>97710734
Interesting. But, lacking.
Absent of the world that shapes us in absence and miasma. All of us with the blood are drawn from the same 'space' so to speak and might master the whole of it, given enough time. We all share that dream, or nightmare. It does not obey the laws of our world, or even norms, and the further we draw away from the root the more uncertain it becomes in effect. In some ways weakened. In others... Well.

Call it an animistic belief.

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>>97710830
if it's banned, it doesn't matter.
If it's allowed, then everyone should take it and now you have a thematic party.

>>97709881
because you likely have a romanticized concept of a samurai that's been carefully curated by the shogunate as a cultural export

>>97710654
Small-sized greatswords, yes.

>>97710830
funnily enough it's not even the extra damage that's the issue honestly but the free regeneration that works resource free in and out of combat, as long as you have a spare round where you're not hammered you can heal up a chunk.

>>97709881
The only samurai I like is Jack.

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>>97706599
I would say chibi tanks fit Orcs.

Can you use the mecha-hitler from Wolfenstein 3d in konflikt 47? How is that game anyway? I like the pulp elements and seems like the plastics are of decent quality too. Might pick up that nachtzehrer walker tank just for painting.

>>97710924
It'd gone majorly woke recently. Do with this info what you will.

ok managed to play some starcraft yesterday and despite losing it was pretty fun. Having not printed out the cards it was sorta book keep-heavy and remembering all the protoss psionics and double checking what upgrade allows for what kinda bogged down the flow a bit. Also roaches being sorta viable charge troops is fucking weird on top of not having any surge.

>>97710926

But you can't have a pulp WWII game without a mecha-hitler! It's preposterous!

No

That style of organic world building can not be done in a ttrpg medium

Solo boss-rush tactics boardgame thats more like a puzzle trying to figure out every room? Maybe two players?
Just making it a party based ttrpg and sprinkling the setting on top seems a bit lazy.

>>97710860
Board game - maybe, but it would be likely a clunker in stile of The Witcher
TTRPG - not at all

>>97710860
Would work better as a board game. Check out Kingdom Death.

>>97708263
I like this, with a few caveats. I do think that 500 surviving out of 15000 is pretty intense, even by "horrible morale-shattering defeat" standards. The heat-rays are in TWotW canonically invisible, although I can't complain overmuch if they're made to be colourful since most adaptations do that including Jeff Wayne.

I'm not sure that a museum of natural history would display a taxidermized horrible human conglomeration corpse, but I could easily seeing them displaying the thing's skeleton.

Calling the Tripods Tripods make sense, what with their three pods, but I'm not sure why they would refer to Hyperwarriors by their actual name. Maybe something like "Jungle Ghosts" or the Spanish equivalent.

Portugal showing up even briefly is a good touch. The UK did historically like to prop up nations that owed it money (The Ottos OTL) but them only sending material aid is still in-character.

A sentence to emphasize that the US was able to form the PACT at all because the other nations were exhausted and/or on the verge of collapse would probably help explain why they can enforce such harsh terms on everyone. Especially Brazil.

>>97708388
>500 surviving out of 15000 is pretty intense, even by "horrible morale-shattering defeat" standards
I was envisioning something quite desperate: if they stay in the city, they'll burn to death or they'll be atomized by the tripod. If they flee, they'll get hunted down by hordes of mutants. Either way they are sitting ducks. The ones who survived are the ones who somehow hid in the jungle until dawn.

>I'm not sure that a museum of natural history would display a taxidermized horrible human conglomeration corpse
I imagine the skeleton option would make more sense.

>Maybe something like "Jungle Ghosts" or the Spanish equivalent
Maybe "enmascarados" (masked ones)?

>>97708528
>Maybe "enmascarados" (masked ones)?
That reminds me of Luchadors, which is fitting and funny in a way I cannot describe.

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I was thinking about the tone of Agartha lore today.
>1848-1875:
>"Italy has burned, Paris is lost, Paraguay is empty and the dead walk in Anatolia. Truly, the world has gone mad."
>1875-1914:
>"I'll beat those dastardly Sky Pirates to the ancient Atlantean treasure and win the hand of the Amazonian Queen or die trying, now who's with me men?"
>1914-0001:
>"Untold aeons of ineffable strife have begun. The Loop turns once more. All is lost."

Personally, I'm most fond of the middle. There are less wargames in that sort of spirit nowadays.

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>>97710275
It really is glorious. An age of romantic adventure and exploration, made all the more precious by how brief it is. An age of cowboys, samurai, adventurers in the jungle consorting with amazons and running from ancient dinosaurs, cold knights waging war on horrific monsters, lemurs, and gorgs. God, what a setting.

>>97707771
So your issue isn't actually with V20, but with its presentation, and that it takes an agnostic approach yo the meraplot and timeline, all which others generally consider strengths, i.e. take the rules and then play wherever and whenever?

Because that sounds like a deeply autistic reason for such a hardline stance and the accompanying vitriol.

>>97710827
>the assumption that the original was scrapped because of the thinblood premise.
Are you suggesting there wasn't a huge negative reaction from fans when they announced their intentions for the game? Because there was. To the point the game was handed off to a different developer, they ditched Hardsuit Labs and handed it to The Chinese Room, and the co-founded Dan Pinchbeck tried to convince Paradox to ditch the name Bloodlines 2 altogether, that there "wasn't enough time or money" to actually make that game, that his company wasn't going to finish someone else's project and instead would do something new, and that everything the previous dev team did was wrong. Here, you can listen to him talk about it yourself, skip to 48 and a half minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyWDyNLAo1E&t=1s

He specifically says the whole story had to be scrapped, besides all the technical problems with what they'd been handed.

>>97710882
>still zero proof, only headcanon
So much text for zero gain.

>>97710882
Not the anon you replied to, but Paradox, generally, is fucking blind and stupid, they'd not be the sort to be receptive to fan sentiment. You can basically see why the first version of B2 got canned in the Paradox press release around the swap of studios.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/paradox-on-bloodlines-2-we-had-a-game-we-could-do-but-maybe-not-with-the-team-we-had

>The site also thanks Hardsuit for their work to date on the game, adding, “We’d like to take this opportunity to honor Hardsuit Labs for their efforts and thank them for their hard work on the project. The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game and we hope that you, the community, will also appreciate their contribution to Bloodlines 2.”

>The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game

They thanked Hardsuit Labs for 'laying the foundations' of a game delayed several times. They do this in February 2021, when the game was meant to release somewhere in 2021.

In essense, it appears there just wasn't a game. There were models, a story, some half-baked systems and other stuff. Hardsuit Labs proved unable to actually make a game, no matter the amount of delays and money, so they were dropped, with even the public statmenents basically saying they failed to deliver in any way.

>>97710599
The irony

>>97706178
Download some Osprey on WW1/early WW2 and paint a color scheme of uniforms and camos that you like.

>>97696451
Naw, this is faggot shit. The Christians, Muslims, and maybe Jews of Trench Crusade are good guys, sometimes extremely desperate good guys, fighting for creation to not further unravel and a right to exist in it.

Hell is fucking trying to impregnate people with fly aids babies and doing what Jews wish they could do with loans. On top of sending people burnt to a fucking crisp like an army of Major Toms after a botched re-entry.

>>97709257
> The Christians, Muslims, and maybe Jews of Trench Crusade are good guys
They are
but the Hell folk have reasons as to why they do what they do as well. Not good reasons, but justifiable in their minds.

>>97709395
Yeah I'm sure they do, just dude who thinks it's ok to rape women because they deserve it for being immoral (dressing in a skirt and tank top). They are objectively bad, though they may rationalize it in their head as them being "good". The thing is with TC and even ITT people argue that the conflict is nuanced and complex when it isn't at all. Hell is evil and heaven is good. Yes I'm sure sometimes a heretic does something actually good and a faithful person does something bad (though we have no lore on a heretic doing a good thing) the exception proves the rule. As I saw someone say a while a go: "Some of the faithful do bad stuff and it's usually out of desperation. The faithless/fallen all do bad stuff and they're the belligerents"

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>>97710538
I think if someone tried to talk to a heretic about how "they're actually the good guys in their own eyes and not necessarily the villains" that person would be immediately skinned alive and tortured for twice as long as the usual captive because Good itself is anathema to them and the only reason for their existence is to promote and serve evil.

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>>97710688
I want to see the three Saneiketsu, this is their digica debut

First for FUCK Medusamon

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>>97710740
Get in line

>>97710688
Is this game good? I played with the really early starter decks recently (the adventure ones with the tamers on the box) and it felt quite sluggish but the power system was really fun.
Then I played some much later decks and... Every card had like 3 effects and wierd summoning fusion requirements and a lot of other stuff. Basically every turn took forever because we were trying to read and understand the abilities and when they trigger. Game felt a bit too leniet with the ordering etc.

Then I played some Yu-Gi-Oh speed duel and the game just goes so smoothly and things work.tm
Then I played a bit of the new Pokemon decks and the pacing was really nice and easy to understand with clear abilities.

I'm geniunely not a hater or anything my girlfriend loves digimon and collects the game but its really a pain to play am I missing something?

>>97710861
How the hell is yugioh smooth to play? And yugioh doesn't run fucking smooth at all it runs like a nuclear missile with all destructive power but no breaks.
>t played yugioh for 10 years

Digimon can feel a bit bricky sometimes depending on the quality of decks. However the meta in this game is in most part very balanced and the pacing of the game is very back and forth. Digimon never have more than 3 effects on a card. Once you learn the actual mechanics i would say its fluid. Overall its much easier to pick up than something like yugioh and magic and harder than pokemon and one piece

>>97706546
OP's not talking about planning his death, OP is saying "If you get into a fistfight with a dragon you're breakfast."

>>97706332
Say you won't let his character die and then let his character die

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>97710072
That too, just tell them that you intend to kill them with a dragon

Seems like player and GM talking about their expectations of the eventually upcoming game is reasonable.
Getting pissed about it on /tg/ seems childish.
And in general I have to agree with >>97707584 for the most part. Death doesn't have to be the only outcome of a failed combat encounter. Especially if you play something other than fast and loose dungeon delve tactics where a new character is made in a few minutes.

If you set up your group for a grand adventure and campaign where their backstories and characters matter by going from zero to hero, then it is absolutely a legit stance to keep character death to a minimum or even off the table.
Conan got captured like a retard in his movie. As a GM you could of course have random mooks slit his throat in a dogpile. Or you could have the evil wizard give him an evil speach, embarrass and wound him further, then cast him out like the defeated dog he is. Movies do it all the time and there is no reason why a GM can't do the same since he has all the power in his hand.

Does this mean you should let PCs off the hook when players insist on retarded shit like: "My fresh character makes a dive down the 50 feet steep cliff on rocky terrain!" expecting to stay alive? No. Of course not. I have to assume you play with actually people and not walking strawman arguments. Should this situation still occour you can always say: "No. That would kill your character, which you stated, you don't want to happen. Try something else."
It's really that easy.

>>97710419
You can just not fight the dragon, or, indeed, not even meet the dragon. How hard do you railroad mr. baitmaster?

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>>97702038
Thank you for your kind words, Elemental Puzzle is a game with a lot of different creatures as you can see here

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>>97701887
>>97702038
This is the Digital version to try for FREE:
https://tabletopia.com/games/elemental-puzzle-tcg

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>>97701887
For example there is a "Burning Future" Booster Pack with powerful Fire Mecha Dragons:
https://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/elemental-puzzle-tcg-burning-future-booster-pack

>>97701887
Okay, this looks interesting. Thanks for letting us know!

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>>97701887
Thank you! I really hope that many people will give a chance to this New TCG!

>>97710652
>Protection from monocolored
Fuck off with this.

>>97710573
I already know this was prompted by him playing discard in B2 then wondering why someone left after Kefka left them empty.

>>97710637
I see what you mean, but it is in my best interest finding people who shower and can mumble two sentences together without shitting their pants to play magic with. To this day I reamain unsuccessful

>>97710636
Ramp is cheating mana too. Any ramp spell that costs less than 3 per 1 it ramps is too effecient and should be bracketed up.

>>97710573
Maybe this is just because Magic is like a back-up, back-up game but I really struggle to wrap my head around how okay the designers are with making these insane discard pieces in a game where you can top deck lands on repeat.

>>97707039
Exactly. That's why I say they have it better. Whatever they did to Epstein before suiciding him, it wasn't enough and he deserved hell.

>>97691269
What everyone forgets is that when they're the protagonists of the writing everything is doomed for them.
>Werewolf-focused material
>Pentex is an invincible leviathan, a trillion headed snake operating across the globe with unparalleled and complete economic and political power with millions of fanatically loyal employees dedicated wholeheartedly to the Wyrm controlling millions upon millions more hapless underlings who eagerly carrying out their orders. Even the tiniest Pentex operation will have total information control over the surrounding area and even the slightest hint of Garou activity will result in battalions of highly trained, combat experience security operators decked out in the latest and greatest military hardware being instantly deployed backed by monstrously powerful Fomori agents capable of wiping out entire Garou packs without breaking a sweat.

>Pentex-focused material
>You're Dave, junior middle-management for a Pentex subsidy. You work 80 hours a week for shitty pay and worse benefits, your underlings are willing to kill you to move up, your coworkers are willing to kill you to look better, and your bosses are willing to kill you to shift blame. You're currently bribing enough people to look the other way for your illegal chemical dumping that discovery is inevitable. You're not sure what you're dumping just that Phil from Transportation got sprayed with it once and 3 days later he screamed "The King of Maggots is shitting in my brain!" and ripped his face off in the breakroom. Your wife also works for Pentex, the only smile she makes anymore is a rictus grin and you can't remember when was the last time she blinked. Oh, and werewolves are real, they cause schizo episodes just by looking at them, and can eat a tank. They're also wizards. They're coming to kill you and everyone you know. Your facility is protected by one guard named Steve, for insurance cost reasons he is not allowed to carry a firearm.

>>97707829
lmao
lol
poor Dave

>>97707829
Come to think of it, the idea of every game being written from the perspective of the protagonist group and all of them seeing the other, rival groups as unstoppable monoliths would work pretty well.
Everyone thinks its them that's Utterly Fucked and the other side is doing swimmingly.
Except Slashers of course.
Slashers don't give no fucks one way or the other.

>>97707829
That's kind of how it is already, but I think that that is how things should have been written, full stop.

Why doesn't TCG/OCG use Droll a lot more in their lists?

>>97709661
Rush Duel frame design is so much better it's not even funny.

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can someone mentor me on how to make a deck that gets to take a turn

>>97710812
couldn't you normal summon morgana, bait with whatever spell to get the negate off the rank 6 then play EVENLY, he'll probably keep the shining sarc if he doesn't negate you but at least you wiped his board

also decklist? morgana + crafters sounds interesting

>>97710857
>morgana + crafters
I don't like using archetypes because then it doesn't feel like I'm making a deck, I'm just following a blueprint. My deck is likely incredibly ill-advised.

the issue I'm having is even if I wipe the board can't this cunt just do the same thing again? He's running an archetype. Every single card in his deck can lead to 15 card combos.

I'm intentionally handicapping myself because I want to have fun deck building and theory crafting but those cool theories just shatter the moment I go against a real opponent and realize if I don't follow a blueprint I'm just fucked
I'm trying to brute force fun out of a game

Where is the go to place for Blood Bowl results from past tournaments/leagues?

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>>97707355
I'm toying around with my next big setting-building exercise being a sort of skeptical solarpunk. The basic premise would be that 15 years ago, the PCs were cadre in the green anti-capitalist revolution that violently overthrew the old government and ushered in systemic change at every level of society. Means of production: seized. Corporations: dissolved. Wealth: redistributed. Fossil fuels: banned. Go down your wish-list of wet-dream progressive utopia stuff: you get all of it.

And yet, despite their revolutionary hopes, the world is not perfect. The resource scarcities that weakened the old regime still exist, exacerbated by ideological constraints. Trade has broken down due to embargos from the surviving global imperialists and squabbling with other revolutionary states. A revolution that promised to share wealth with all now struggles to provide even basic necessities, worsened by a flood of climate refugees that the government seems incapable of controlling. Endless bickering factions in the Central Revolutionary Council vie to one-up each other in ideological purity, while behind the scenes power aggregates to a shadowy bureaucracy ruled by ruthless apparatchiks. The world might have more solar panels and wind turbines, greenhouses and vertical gardens, e-bikes and high-speed rail, but it has less energy, less food, and less freedom-of-travel than what came before.

As a Hero of the Revolution, the PCs are entrusted with responsibility over their own small commune of this brave new world. They are the go-to fixers of the community, handling everything from complaints about the bland cafeteria food to rooting out capitalist sympathizers. They have to fight off interference from superiors, disloyalty from subordinates, and discontent from the people in their charge.

>>97702043
Head wings are inherently retarded
They're never even remotely big enough to bear the weight of the animu waifu they're attached to, and even if they were she'd be bearing all that weight on her fucking neck.
>b-b-but she has regular wings on her butt!
THEN SHE DOESN'T NEED THE HEAD WINGS, RETARD

God I hate Darkstalkers

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>>97709829
>This is the most famous succubus in video games

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>>97709806
>Yet another grim deconstruction of solarpunk that insists the monkey's paw must curl in order to effect change for the good of the earth, assuming the changes even stick

>>97709855
I mean, yeah? "Yet another" makes it sound like you've seen this a lot, but I can't think of many. My main touchpoints were New York 2140, Disco Elysium, and The Dispossessed, none of which fall too close to the main idea. A big complaint about solarpunk is that it's just an aesthetic, and that there aren't really any stories being told there.

Unless you're complaining about "grim deconstructions" in general, which definitely are pretty overdone. I think it's a tough line to walk between thinking seriously about downstream consequences versus just jumping to "everything's shit because humans are shit." But I think it's worth acknowledging that major changes are messy and painful, and that well-intentioned people can disagree about substantial topics. I don't think that's just monkey's paw pessimism.