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first for anime

>decide to check some hdds that i had around here
>s*agate that died less than a year in (4999 hours)
>casually pluged it in
>convert to non-dynamic
>suddenly works, crystal disk shows zero errors
what in the unholy fuck, should i just write 0s and try my luck again?

>>103148632
don't most cases come with fans? why would you need to buy separate ones? or is it just because they want to see rainbow colors

>>103148677
Failed controller?

I'm convinced everyone here is not only poor, but a colossal retard on top of it

>>103148449
>All announcements are on hold until CES January time.
So it's not coming out this month then? darn

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79xtx not fast enough for 5.5k vr modded mp in beamng
gonna shove a 5090 in next year then blow it up with one of these

I'm looking at a less popular asus motherboard on amazon. It's like #1100 in mbs and the popular one is like #100.
The bios I need for it is 7 months old.
How likely is it to come with a recent enough bios?

>>103148677
To impress girls

>>103148737
Why?

>>103149044
if it's an AM5 board it's guaranteed to have CPU-less BIOS flashing support so it doesn't matter

>>103149118
This one doesn't, that's why I'm worried

anyone have 2TB sata ssd recommendations? my nvme slots are full, i have three old ssds from over the years i'm using for random media storage and i'd like to upgrade them

could also be convinced to do 1TB because i'm talking about upgrading my first SSD (120GB), a 250GB, and a 500GB, they're not going to be used for video editing or anything crazy so they don't have to be the best

>>103149140
Mx500 or 870 evo

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Do you guys ever buy from these buyers/resellers marketplace forums? One of my friends recommended a tech forum that's (surprisingly) active in and around my city. I was thinking of checking that signing up and checking it out.

are 4090s cheap yet ? or they all sold out still 2500aud+

how does the 9800X3D scale with memory frequency and timings? any bench yet?

>>103149140
The best SATA SSD's are the Samsung QVO and Crucial MX500. However, since those sold out at reasonable prices, just buy whatever is cheap. Leven, Silicon Power and Team Group are all 20+ years old Taiwanese companies, if it matters.

I bought a 4 year old gpu because I'm scared prices are about to spike

>>103149044
Go to the board's official support page, they usually keep older BIOS files.
If you're looking for an older AM4 BIOS that works with Zen 1 and 2 CPUs, idk gl.

>>103149171
I would only buy relatively expensive used parts on eBay which has buyer protection.

>>103149216
no idea fastest ive seen tested is 6200 6400 i dont think anyones tried higher yet or had any luck

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Just bought a 4080 Super.

I will sell it off on Facebook Marketplace for like half price in a few months once I can get a 5080 and even though I will have lost many hundreds of dollars as part of this process, my cope is that I will be making somebody else very happy by hooking them up with a cheap 4080, therefore proving that I am a good person and making the whole ordeal financially responsible in a roundabout way.

how difficult are we expecting it to be to get a 5090 on launch? surely retailers will actually implement a 1 unit per household rule and also do queues?

would a 9800x3d bottleneck a 4090 or the other way around? maybe gonna pick one up cheap under 1700usd

>>103149421
the 4090 bottlenecks the 9800X3D at 1080p

>>103149427
not playing under 3-6k lol

should i just wait for the zen 6 x3d and 9900xtx?

>>103149427
gpu cant bottleneck cpu

>>103149435
okay, put a 1030 in your rig then

>>103149417
still cant get a 4090 like 3 yrs later no way in fuck are we gonna get 5090s with sanctions scalpers ai bot wankers etc

>>103149421
9800x3d bottlenecks the 4090 at 1440p

Are refurbished monitors recommended, or should I always buy them new?

>>103149109
Even if they could see the value in what you're doing with those components building a PC means you're good enough for one year and then your whole setup is shit again.
>>103149417
I feel like I remember nvidia selling directly to scalpers, or at least miners, before, but even if they don't, you'll still require a bot to get one on launch, they'll make sure they don't have enough, since instant sell out=instant hype and price hikes.

>>103149444
think i might have better chances if i go to my local microcenter a few hours before opening on launch?

>>103149444
4090s are easy to buy, doomer

>>103149118
>>103149368
Just to be more specific, it's this board.
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/business/pro-b650m-ct-csm/
I'm hoping for the 4/17 bios that introduced 9000 series support.

>>103149443
the frames flow from the cpu to the gpu not the other way around

>>103149455
No, you'll have to be camping out overnight if you want to get in.

>>103149459
>I'm hoping for the 4/17 bios that introduced 9000 series support.
just flash the latest bios when you get the board. All AM5 boards have cpu-less flash

>>103149455
Yes, or call Best Buy to place an order if you don't want to refresh the Best Buy app.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12e2lhb/got_a_4090_fe_by_calling_best_buy/

>>103149467
>camping overnight
surely not, right?

>>103149465
if the CPU is waiting for the GPU, its a bottleneck.

>>103149483
actually reading online it says microcenter doesnt do lineups any more, you just go to the store before it opens and you get put into a lottery

>>103149456
outside of usa for a non scalped price? good fucking luck!
>>103149455
irl spawncamp that shit i guess
>>103149447
even 3440x1440x120fps?
even 2500x2600x120hz?

>>103148672
Yeah, just use it for things you can easily replace, like downloading anime. I have a drive from dumpster diving that healed a few years ago and still works. Just be prepared for it to fail again at any time.

>>103149417
Easy because it'll be too expensive. 5080 will probably be hard to get. Microcenter's usually a good bet since it doesn't let onlinefags order everything remotely.

>>103149421
Depends on the game. Could go either way.

>>103149498
i seriously doubt a 4090 would peg a 9800x3d in beamng in vr mp modded with a quest 3
quest 2 maybe but ive yet to find a reason to upgrade from 13600k 79xtx quest 2 which is good enough

>>103149459
>>103149472
damn this one doesn't actually have BIOS flashback
very typical of ASUS to disable platform features on their low-end boards for product segmentation (BIOS flashback is supported by the IO die on AM5, it's literally built into every processor)
you aren't gonna be able to get a boot kit from AMD either, they probably assumed all boards would have supported BIOS flashback when it literally comes free with the processor

Is there a GOOD 4k monitor for under $500? Does such a thing exist?

>>103149496
>even 3440x1440x120fps?
depends on the game, but yes, it happens in some games like hogwarts and remnant 2

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>antec flux pro
>m870-e motherboard
>96gb of 6000cl30 ram
>arctic liquid freezer III 420
>2x 990 pro nvme ssd 2tbs


>sitting here collecting dust because waiting for a 9950x3d and 5090
god i hope this shit isnt deprecated when the cpu/gpu comes out

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>>103149543
>96gb of ram

>>103149551
android studio consumes 30gb like it's absolutely nothing

>>103149543
Why do you want the x3d? With that much ram I assume it's not for gaming. Is there indication that the cache will be on both ccds?

>>103149559
you can do more than one thing on a computer

>>103149562
Well, if they put the cache on both ccds it might be worth it, otherwise I'd just get the 9950x.

>>103149564
my work day consists of compiling android studio builds while running mobile VM images and playing games

i've had a bad 2 weeks of work because i wanted to play cyberpunk, but couldn't use android studio at the same time during work hours so a lot of work was delayed

in my country the tax payer is paying for this upgrade anyway since its a byod

>>103149564
i'm NTA
but i hate this techtuber bullshit where you separate everything into different segments as if "gaming" and "productivity" both don't rely on high frequency, high IPC and good memory performance, and as if people can't do both on the same machine

>>103148632
>a sus psu
sus indeed.

>>103149572
>as if "gaming" and "productivity" both don't rely on high frequency, high IPC and good memory performance
its a worthwhile distinction to make.
i'd take a 7900x over a 7800x3d for productivity, and the inverse for gaming.

>>103149570
Why not just build 2 PCs and then remote into the other one to play games using sunshine and moonlight?

>>103149559
Yes, AMD already stated 9950X3D is X3D on both dies.
They don't need the old fast clocking die+slower clocking x3d die now, since the extra cache is below the cores now and it clocks as high as the regular parts by default (it won't OC as much though)

>>103149599
>why not just add extra power consumption AND extra latency for no reason!?
How about no...

>>103149588
it's not a worthwhile distinction to make because processors don't have use cases
it's like when 13900Ks were dying from running minecraft servers 24/7 and people said it wasn't made to run servers ("you are holding it wrong"), as if a 13900K shouldn't be capable of surviving any workload 24/7 for years on end

if the games and workloads you care about scale to more than 8 cores - get the 7900X
if the games and workloads you care about don't scale beyond 8 cores - get the 7800X3D

AMD is finally giving you a no-compromises solution with the 9950X3D, and that's obviously the best for everything
>>103149599
>why build 1 PC when you can build 2 PCs

>>103149599
because i'm only getting tax rebates + byod allowance for a device that i work on, so might aswell just build a device that is crazy good for gaming and work

Is the B650 Steel Legend worth getting for someone buying a 7600?
I can get a PRO B650-A WIFI for $190 or the steel legend for $300

>>103149620
no

>>103149620
Sorry MSI PRO B650m-A wifi
>>103149625
Based

>>103149513
both those games are gay as shit

>>103149572
You can do both, or are you saying a 9950x can't play games?

Can you control the rgb of an nzxt fan without one of their controllers or motherboards?

how much would a rtx 4090 bottleneck on a 13600k lol

>>103149687
Day1: It won't.
Day ~2-30, 13600k will oxidize.

>>103149694
mines 2yrs old its fine, got a x670e 96gb build planned but waiting for 9950x3d as i cant even find a 9800x3d ffs

>>103149700
>works on my machine, all these other reports that Intel had to issue a recall for, they must be fake ;-)

>>103149712
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/13xic43/help_me_to_enhance_my_undervolt_settings_13600k/

i know its a massive issue i put the latest bios's on havent had a problem before or since

might try a uv oc

>>103149613
I agree with you in principle but CPUs have gotten more specialized over the past 5 years because of things like multi-ccx scheduling, big.little and 3d v-cache. But with vcache's clockspeed fixed, CPUs may go back to being more general again as x3d CPUs start being jack of all trades like you said.

>>103149620
SL is a pretty good board but it's a waste of you're using a 7600. Only get it if you plan to upgrade your CPU to a better one later on

>>103149687
You mean a 13600k bottlenecking the 4090
13600k ain't that fast today

I'll probably just buy a Mac because I'm not interested in video games. It's more economical with the new Mac Mini by far
Mac Mini and a decent monitor costs less than 1000 bucks
the computers you BTFO it with cost 2000 and it's not like my usecase for a computer is running cinebench
meanwhile, my PS5 is going to have GTA6
your 2000 dollar PC won't have that

>>103149756
yeah i mean sure you're right i just don't like it
the AMD marketing department would love if you had to buy a 9800X3D for your "gaming" machine and a 9950X for your "productivity" machine
fortunately cooler heads seem to have prevailed

>>103149756
>>103149784
imo, they should just not bother with the dual CCD non X3D skus when they release Zen6
the 11600 for $200 and 11700 for $300.
then the 11800X3D, 11900X3D and 11950X3D

>>103149826
agreed - 3D cache should be standard at this point
hopefully intel can figure it out as well

>>103149838
like, no more X skus just X3D and two budget skus

>>103149838
They won't drop non-x3d, since x3d can't OC and a huge part of their marketing apparatus is 'extreme overclocking' - if they drop x3d, they leave all xtreme oc to Intel.

>>103149874
>>103149838
>if they drop non-x3d, they leave all xtreme oc to Intel.
fix'd

>>103149768
i cant even find a 4090 in australia anywhere lol

>>103149874
>since x3d can't OC
yes it can, 9800X3D has an unlocked mulitplier
how did you miss this lmao

>>103149874
x3d overclocks just fine now anon

>>103149884
Even though the cache is now under the cores and the temp issues are resolved, it's still voltage limited due to the extra cache dies.
It will never OC as high as the regular versions.

>>103149914
and the "regular versions" will never OC as high as raptor lake because intel nodes overclock better
it doesn't matter anon, AMD already does better out of the box

>>103149918
Doesn't matter, the highest clocks will always be the best ones and the X3D parts aren't it.
Also, the 7th highest clockrate on hwbot is still a Bulldozer.

>>103149942
>the highest clocks will always be the best ones and the X3D parts aren't it
no one cares about clock speed as an independent variable
performance is what matters, how you get there is frankly irrelevant
>Also, the 7th highest clockrate on hwbot is still a Bulldozer.
lol RIP globalfoundries

>>103149768
13600K is about as fast as 5800X3D and will not bottleneck the 4090 in most cases.

>>103149951
If by most cases you mean 51% of the time then you're right I suppose

>>103149948
>no one cares about clock speed as an independent variable
AMD marketing does, since they keep paying extreme overclockers to do events.

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>>103149942

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>>103149960
i will never take AMD's marketing team seriously

>>103149948
>>103149942
https://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-achieves-69ghz-overclock-and-1480-fps-performance-in-counterstrike-2/
Can Intel do this?

>>103149969
Again, actual performance apparently doesn't matter, since AMD keep paying extreme overclockers to do events.
I'm pretty sure most of the 'extreme OC' on AMD is going to be clock stretching anyway, so it's probably *less* performance than a normal uv+pbo situation, but they love it. For some reason.

>>103149981
do people really read articles like this and think "neat, 7 ghz!"

>>103149985
It's STABLE, retard
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/the-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-just-hit-6-9-ghz-and-thousands-of-in-game-fps-with-an-overclock-and-it-barely-even-broke-a-sweat/

>>103149985
AMD marketing seems to think so.
Which ultimately, getting right back around to the point of this whole chain - AMD aren't going to stop making non-x3d parts.

>>103149981
>>103149985
also it's literally doing 2.3 V here so i'm not sure where the comment about the 9800X3D being voltage limited came from
it may be voltage limited in terms of actual overclocking potential (thermal issues), but i don't think it has a BIOS lock like the 7800X3D
>>103149988
go set your Vcore to 2.3 V right now
i dare you

its weird how the 9800X3D has uniquely mind broken Intelfags.

>>103149995
its running at 1.969 V

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>>103150003
screenshot says 2.25
why are you trying so hard to make a point where there is no point to be made

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>>103149140
Check this link (picrel). I don't know why it's not in the sticky maybe somebody can explain to me why it's a piece of shit.
https://borecraft.com/

can you insufferable faggots take your console war bullshit and fuck off

athlon dumpstered pentium
core dumpstered bulldozer
i dumpster (You)

not like you fucking retarded kids would even remember ye olde athlon gtfo

The only valid reason to build a powerful PC right now is not video games, it's AI gooning
a piece of shit 400 dollar PC with a 1060 will play every good game
gaming sucks now
you zoomers have no idea what good video games are because they've never come out in your life
I'm not talking shit, I'm sad for you
you watch Linus Tech Tips running fucking woke Tomb Radier FPS comparisons and you think that's gaming
if you care about high frame rate competitive FPS i respect you, but any serious player will have shadows and bullshit turned down anyways
and you can do that with a 1060
do not waste your money on cutting edge PC shit if your end goal is video games
it's provably retarded to do that

>>103150029
i remember the athlon 64
well OK it was my dad's PC but it played trackmania sunrise like a champ

if your CPU thermals clears out within say, a few months, does that mean there's a bigger issue like the cooler or something?

>>103148632
Waiting for RDNA 4

>>103150075
likely you didnt use enough thermal paste or didnt screw it in enough so its losing mounting pressure fast

>>103149763
I was planning on upgrading the CPU in 5 years time
Is that too long?

>>103150184
i ran ivy bridge for 10 years

>>103150184
nta but most, if not all, AM5 boards over $150 can run any CPU available on the socket. They really overbuilt the VRMs for some reason.
When it comes to buying a motherboard you should write out a list of the features and IO you need then cross-reference it against the spec sheets. Use PCPP filters to narrow it down initially.

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>>103150028
The flowchart and PDF are needlessly convoluted. A list of dozens of entry level drives is not helpful because it doesn't help anons make a choice between all of these. And nobody wants to read a multi-page glossary of terms. Or search all these drives on PCpartpicker, only to find out 90% are overpriced or out of stock.

Should I get PTM7950 or similar purely for the longevity of it? I'd be applying it to a 9800X3D so it's not like I need it for the actual thermal conductivity
I just don't want to have to re-do my thermal paste ever if I can avoid it

>>103150274
ptm7950 is designed for direct die cooling
IHS's may not get hot enough for it to work as designed but I havent seen any tests outside of direct die applications

>>103150274
Sure no reason not to I suppose. FWIW, most conventional pastes will last 5 years without issue so PTM would only be necessary if you intend to keep the system around longer than that.

>>103150281
Spec says 45°C for phase change so should be fine.

>>103150274
its more useful for gpus where you dont really want to open it up often

for cpu you can just use paste

Does anyone know anything about the ARZOPA M3RC?
32" 4k 144hz monitor for $200 seems like an insane deal.

>>103150354
anon.. its ips

recommend me a chair that is
>not shit tier $100 staples quality
>not $1000-$1500 herman miller price
something in the $300-$500 range would be ideal

>>103150467
Markus chair from ikea is the bestest

>>103150382
So are all the recommended monitors in the op.
Am I missing something?

>>103150467
go to office furniture fire sale for a closing down or moving business and get the one with the highest back

>>103150478
>>103150467
also there are no good used furniture stores here

>>103150476
the only monitors worth buying in 2024 are either miniled VA or oled

>>103150487
Any recommendations under $500, then? I'm assuming the op will be updated for the next thread.

>>103150494
check amazon for OLED monitor

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn is an option if you dont want to deal with burn in prevention

>all parts arrive
>cpu won't be here for a few days
>bored
>can't post the motherboard without a cpu
>decide to flash bios to at least have it on for a second
>empty case just sitting there
>urge to build
Ah fuck it.

>>103150501
>27" 1440
You have any 32" 4k?

>>103150554
no

Should I worry about anything if my ATX 2.4(?) PSU uses a 12vhpwr cable from the same manufacturer? Last time I bought a power supply was late 2021/early 2022

>>103148632
>MFW I wanted to buy a 7900 XTX
>See the pro AYYYMD Subreddit
>Hey guys is anyone else having driver timeout issues?
>Goes all the way back to the 6000 series
The GPU market is so fucking gay. I want to get rid of my RTX 3070 and get at least double the VRAM.

>>103150634
just buy a 5090 and stop worrying about things

>>103150634
nah 6000 series is fine (6900 XT would fit your criteria if you can still find one)
the 7900 XTX is defective hardware, pretend it doesn't exist

>>103150579
The adapter connects to the standard 8-pin Mini Fit connectors that other cards use. It shouldn't go directly in to the PSU.

>>103150639
Too much of a brokie, when I get a new job I'll probably get a 3D printer so I mean, NVIDIA is still in the cards, but I can't kid myself that I don't overwhelmingly game on this thing.
>>103150650
Isn't the 6900XT super power hungry? That and no AV1, not that it's a requirement but it's nice to have.

I hate socketing RAM. No matter how much I do it, I still feel like I'm gonna break it.

>>103150656
>Isn't the 6900XT super power hungry?
it was one of the most efficient GPUs in existence when it came out (only beaten by the 6800)
it uses slightly less power than the 3080
you're probably thinking of the 6950 XT
>That and no AV1, not that it's a requirement but it's nice to have
yeah i mean agreed, it is technically an obsolete GPU, AMD's new FSR is likely gonna run significantly worse on 6000 series due to the lack of AI acceleration instructions
just saying that it fits your criteria and it doesn't have the weird driver/hardware issues that the 7900 XTX has

>>103150671
Feel like I should just waitfag it out, for me I just want to make a new PC from scratch as this one has a myriad of issues, likely from frying the poor 3700x with the cooler not being on properly for like... 2-3 years.

>>103150676
>Feel like I should just waitfag it out
agreed and same
holding the line on a 6700 XT
>likely from frying the poor 3700x with the cooler not being on properly for like... 2-3 years
lol ouch
run some stress tests and see if anything shows up: https://www.ocbase.com

>>103150655
I mean the adapter itself should be 2x8pin to 12vhpwr, but it should be fine, right?

Whats your opinion on feature rich premium motherboards?

>>103150676
>>103150685
the 8800XT is two months away

>>103150714
i think ASUS are huge faggots for restricting software features to their top end boards
artificial segmentation is always bad
>>103150730
let's hope navi 48 works better than navi 31 then
i'm not buying that shit at launch

>>103150714
I like when they have backplates pre-applied.
I always forget to put them on.

>>103150685
I mean it's no longer cooking itself and dying, but it's had issues where, for instance the CPU audio dies, the throttling got so bad that the PC basically yo-yo'd as it didn't know what to do in APEX (when I used to play it), even now it has issues with USB controller resources and audio dying under certain tasks.
>>103150730
AMD actually having an AI feature set makes them actually appealing, it bothers me that even whilst Intel are DYING in the tech space in general, they understood that features are king in this current GPU landscape.

>>103150763
>but it's had issues where, for instance the CPU audio dies, the throttling got so bad that the PC basically yo-yo'd as it didn't know what to do in APEX (when I used to play it), even now it has issues with USB controller resources and audio dying under certain tasks
run the combined CPU+RAM test in OCCT
it should show infinity fabric instability pretty quickly, and that sounds like infinity fabric instability
consider upgrading the BIOS if you're still on a really old pre-zen 3 version

>>103150777
Sure I'll give both a go.

>>103150797
how fast is your RAM btw? the infinity fabric is usually synced with RAM speed
task manager will show this if you don't have any other monitoring utilities

>>103150803
3600mhz, no clue on the CAS latency.

>>103150813
>3600mhz
i don't feel like 3600 RAM/1800 IF should be a problem for any 3700X but after updating the BIOS, if it still happens, you can try downclocking to 3200 and see if that helps
you should absolutely be able to solve this without building a new rig, even if worst case scenario you lose a little bit of RAM speed

considering the 4090 has settled around 3000aud 1800usd what the fuck will the 5090 cost? 5k? 2000usd?

best 4slot ram for 9800x3d

>>103150831
True, but it's weird to describe Anon as my i5 3570k, GTX 970 rig lasted me something like 7-8 years, whilst I know this PC has lasted me give or take 5 I've never felt that satisfied with the RTX 3070, and the Ryzen 3700x has become middling when most of the games I play outside of FPS are CPU intensive map games, to which a 9800X3D when I have the cash spare feels like a good investment.

>>103150832
1700-1800usd

>>103150832
$1999 USD

>>103150634
4080 Super is not that much more expensive than the 7900 XTX

>>103150832
6K AUD

>>103150840
don't run 4 dimms

>>103150923
UK is a clown market.

Found a local ad for a 7900 GRE Hellhound (supposedly the best variant) for 25% off MSRP. Guy says it's brand new, sealed, and he'll let me unbox it and test it on his system, but there's no paperwork so no warranty. Could there be a catch I'm not seeing, or is it just some sort of tax fraud thing?

>>103150840
PC5-38400

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>>103150963
Difference is similar to other countries. The 4080 Super is actually not that bad of a deal compared to the 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti. If you really care about VRAM you can also just buy a 3090 from Ebay.

>>103150964
Could be return fraud or the guy works as a delivery person and stole the item.

>>103150832
get the 8800XT in the new year

>>103150985
PC5-28,800*

>>103151017
Doesn't the 3090 have some sort of VRM issues or am I misremembering?

>>103151023
already got a 79xtx

>>103151031
no, they had issues with the GDDR6X

>>103151051
there's not going to be anything better value from Nvidia than the 7900XTX in AUD any time soon.
the 5070 will probably end up being $1200 dollary doos like the 4070ti Super.

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Anons, I'm using a lianli dan A3 case, question is, would adding bottom intake fans be good? Wouldn't that create some sort of turbulence because the GPU is also trying to pull in air?

>>103151031
they crashed early on and had to be fixed through drivers to not boost too much and they died when running certain games like amazon new world

>>103151125
what config are you going for? side or bottle intake for GPU?

>>103150501
This is 290€ in my country rn, should I go for it?

>>103151125
It wouldn't hurt to throw in some fans if you already have them but I wouldn't spend money to needlessly improve GPU temps by 2 degrees.

>>103151131
Bottom intake GPU, but if I try a vertical mount would that be good?

>>103151142
My GF recently got one, not seen it in person but I've heard nothing but good things, though she went from a horrific budget TN panel with awful contrast, I'm sure anything in comparison would have been good.

>>103151149
you were right originally, if you're doing bottom (not bottle lmao) you wouldn't want to use extra fans as the GPU fans will act as intake. this is also applicable for side mount.

>>103151142
sure, its better than ips monitors
alternatively check if theres good oleds around 600€

i have never build RGB rig
so if i buy deep cooler fans and arctic liquid cooler RGB can i put them all on same RGB color?

>>103151087
bugger of well i only paid 1350 for a pulse 75% as fast as a 4090d anyways kinda wish i got one of those but no warranty on ebay shit

>>103151210
we get screwed by the exchange rate
I'm not looking to upgrade my 2060 until 2027 so I'll be fine with RDNA5 low end.

>>103151166
I see thanks anon .

>>103151163
I was wondering if I should install the extra fans I had from my old case. But looking at the clearance between the would be fans and the GPUs fans was roughly an inch it looked pointless


Again thanks anons

>>103151236
if it wasnt for my gaming laptop shitting itself i would have happily stuck on my a770 and 2060 mobile build but nope

Whats the current meta? Got a cheap gook eatx case 480mm rad 1600w pcie 5 chink psu coming should i go x670e or x870e and ddr 5 6400 96gb i can get cheap with a 9800x3d or wait for 9950x3d after xmass
>>103151209
all rgb lets you turn it off

>>103150686
Yes. It's the connections on the PSU side that aren't standardized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GIvrMWzr9k
look at what you made him do, he tested the 9800X3D at 4K

>>103151261
What are you building for? Gaming, 3D animation, ML, streaming?

>>103151305
literally just playing beamng in vr mp mods 6k
gonna get a quest 3 5090 and whole build eventually

>>103151293
I feel vindicated for wanting to see the 4k results desu. there is STILL a massive difference between the 9800X3D and the 285k. reminder that people have been coping saying that there is no difference between the top tier CPUs at 4K

>>103151293
thanks steve

>>103151324
If you're waiting for the 5090 you might as well at least wait for 9950X3D benchmarks. Clearly money is no object so you'll regret buying a 9800X3D now if the R9 turns out to be 3% better.

>>103151339
there has been 4k results posted like from Wendell but they ignore those and parrot the "cpu performance doesnt matter [spoiler]now that Intel is far behind[/spoiler]"

>>103151353
>Wendell
Not that I don't trust his results but he is the Linux workstation reviewer in a lot of people's eyes and they'll literally say "wait for a real review"

Assuming 5000 series drops before Trump takes office, would I be retarded to do a completely new build at that time? I am concerned that if he actually does this tariff shit we might see everyone and their mother decide that they are allowed to hike prices now and blame it on Orange Man.

Are LG ultragear monitors good?

>>103151414
if u cant wait some 4090d's are going cheap im trying to find one again

>>103150001
the amount of cope damage control is hilarious

>>103150001
just when you thought amdrones are bad (they are), the intelaviv fanbois crawl out of the woodwork and repeatedly make the stupidest comments

what if instead of 3d cache, we have 3d ccd haha

>>103151489
thats literally zen5 haha

Best airflow case?

>>103150471
If you like getting a static shock, sure.

>>103151423
It isn't that I can't wait. I am just concerned that everyone will collectively rub their hands together and kick prices up by 20% in January.

Eurogamer 9800X3d and latest HUB video confirm: 20-30% uplift at 4K Ultra with DLSS Balnced on a 4090. That bitch better arrive today. Finally getting that extra bit out of the 4090.

>>103151269
I should be fine then since I'm buying the adapter from the same company as the PSU.

bros all i want is a 5080 for my SFF build for 1k...

>>103151293
The comparison starting from 29:20 is pretty good

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>>103151610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GIvrMWzr9k
crazy results

>>103151610
kek where's the 1080p fag who keeps on spamming it

>>103151666
lol I already tested hogwarts on my personal system at 3440x1440. the 9800x3d is about 22% faster than my old 7800x3d in the busiest part of hogsmeade

>>103151666
>but muh useless no real world gain just buy a 7600

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they're practically handing these out for free
why do they have to be so fucking ugly, it almost the extra $100+ worth it

>>103151610
>>103151666
dlss balanced at 4k is 2259x1270 if you guys didnt know. its worse image quality than 1440p but better quality than 1080p.

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>>103148632
>lga1851
>10 pieces sold
its anudda shoah

>>103151666
>that 1% low against ultra cuck 285k
literally mogged

>>103151666
Some poorfags the past threads...
>>103140390
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>>103129552
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>>103110040
>>103109541

>>103151738
shameful
maybe having country flags enabled would be very telling

>>103151738
dude, how would you know what perf 9800x3d gives you at higher res if theres no testing at higher res

People in absence of 1440p testing cant rec 9800x3d for 1440p since it costs more money than other cpus

>>103151744
this entire post sounds like cope. 9800X3D hasm been proven to be the fastest CPU for 720p, 1080p, 1440p and now 4K gaming.

posted from my 7800X3D

>>103151757
imagine someone has 2k € budget for a pc, what cpu should be buy
the best?

>>103151744
why is this suddenly an issue now? the testing methodology hasn't changed for years and it hasnt been questioned to this extent because it works

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>>103151683
I have owned 10700K, 5600X, 5950X, 7700X, 7950X, and soon, 9800X3D for 4K gaming, and I can assure you the worst 4K gaming has been in the last 4yrs was on the 6-core. I'm not a unitasker. Sure it works fine but it isn't the best. 4090 deserves the best.
>>103151695
1440p native looks like ass to me, along the lines of DLSS performance. As long as DLSS Balanced/Quality doesn't add any sizzle or issues resolving lines or add ghosting, then it's fine and far better than 1440p every single time I test it, the resolution being close+the upscaling algo works wonders. Just depends on the game and target fps.
>>103151744
There has been plenty of testing, and a brain that can math and real-world experience with a 4090 will tell you that a 9800X3D will help in many games at 4K. This doesn't matter though, stick within your goddamn budget and perf targets. Always.

>>103151762
because AMD is beating Intel now people are questioning the testing methodology.................

>>103151761
9800X3D, 32GB of DDR5 6000CL30 and a B650M HDV-M.2

>>103151762
ironic amd shitposting who pretend theres a conspiracy of (intel) shills trying to rec people to buy 200€ amd cpus over 500€ amd cpus for their systems because they're jealous of amd cpus being the bestest

>>103151769
oh shame, your gpu is now 4060
enjoy your 30 fps in starfield

Should I just say fuck it and get a 321urx for $920?

>>103151786
That's an ok price, Maybe it will get into the $800's on Black Friday but unsure. I am glad I got my AW3225QF in April, still have fomo about DP 2.1 but it's still so new and not really ready.

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If i upgrade my Motherboard with 9800x3DS but still stick to 1080p and my RTX 2070 Super is it gonna be fine?
How hold on. I will upgrade GPU and Monitor later. Like what the heck i'm gonna do with 4090 with 1080p monitor.

>>103151818
you might want to upgrade to 1440p oled first and only buy new mobo/ram/cpu when you also buy a new gpu

>more than 200th in line to get my 9800x3d
thinking of ordering it in multiple places just to make sure i get it, then cancel/resell the ones i don't need

>>103149171
I used to bought my RX550 through Facebook Marketplace. it's very cheap. almost 30$. it's just Dusty and the paste has been replaced, but still works well.
Right now im using GTX 1650 Low Profile, bought it second hand from Shopee. What a small beast. i love it.
That RX550 is in my warehouse. Still in good condition.
For a recommendation, you need to understand about the Device you're going to bought. I'm glad i understand about Computer so i can be safe with my purchase, if you don't understand about it, you should ask and bring your friend.

>>103151781
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ndYgsp
2k euros for a 9800X3D and 7900XTX

>>103151781
god i fucking hate people like you, you genuinely have no idea how to build a PC within budget

>>103151873
getting an XTX for $1000 right now is retarded

>>103151883
he said for 2k eur and getting a 9800X3D you'd get a 4060. I'm not recommending the build but that anon is a fucking retard

>>103151877
well the guy above goes shitty 1tb nvme, shit case, random shit psu, random shit ddr5, micro atx mobo, amd gpu

its nonsensical

>>103151818
Well yeah there's no drawback to having "too fast" a CPU. I don't see why you'd do that though - just save up and buy everything together. That is unless there's some game you want to play /now/ that your current CPU can't handle. Factorio?

>>103151893
>nonsense build that works
it sounds like it would be faster than anything you would build for a similar price

>>103151905
and itd use fsr upscaling and require buying another storage device since the 1tb on filled up and theres no 2nd m.2 slot so it requires external solution and it looks ugly as sin chinesium plastic with tasteles rgb and prob doesnt turn on after 5 years because the psu broke

>>103151786
Its the best OLED I'd say. Least VRR flicker among every brand that uses the same panel, has KVM, 3 year OLED warranty (samsung does not have this lol), and cheapest as well.

Very jealous of you yanks having it cheap

>>103151893
Most of those components are perfectly fine. Especially in a cost-optimized gaming rig.

>>103151915
You're a little out of your depth if you think the HDV only has 1 M.2 slot.

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Glad we got closure now that steve from amd unboxed did 4k testing for the first time ever under community pressure it proves you shouldnt buy anything beyond 7600 for your gaming rig

>>103151915
>FSR upscaling
is perfectly fine at 4k
>require buying another storage device since the 1tb on filled up
You can always spend more and get another drive?
>theres no 2nd m.2 slot
pic related
> it looks ugly as sin chinesium plastic with tasteles rgb
get a different case?
>prob doesnt turn on after 5 years because the psu broke
I mean just buy a new PSU when you upgrade the PC?
it honestly just sounds like you can't handle being wrong

>>103151916
I'm in Russia actually. It usually goes for around $1300-1400 over here so I'm very much surprised by the price I see right now.

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>>103151944
sorry forgot the picture

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>>103151904
>>103151824
I would rather now get the good cpu / mobo combo and upgrade RAMs, i have only 16GB and it already starts to show.
I would later upgrade to 4k GPU and monitor if i find better deal. The 4k monitor and GPU easily blowup with 1-2k cash.

>>103151942
>posts the only game that didn't get an uplift

>>103151714
>A successful launch only nets you barely 600k in profits
I've seen crypto niggers make more money with much less effort, is the electronics industry this fucked? No wonder intel is about to go under.

>>103151980
well even nvidia who sells gpus at 70% margins makes a tiny minority of their profits from gaming sector and the 3tril evaluation comes from selling gpus for 10bil ai data centers

>>103151974
Sure then like I said it's not a terrible idea. Probably not strictly necessary to go all the way up to a 9800X3D but I, too, play a lot of autism sims so I can understand your reasoning.

>>103151942
So by this logic you also shouldn't ever get a new intel aviv cpu correct?

Also framerate autists can use DLSS which makes games more CPU bound, so it's still an advantage.

>>103151976
on level1techs vid the average 4k difference between 7800x3d and 9800x3d was about 2.5%

How are the 5th gen SSDs?

>>103151883
Why, new amd gen won't beat XTX most likely. 8800xt will be 16gb with perf similar to 7900xt and better fsr. Would be my guess>>103151892

>>103152081
1k is expensive for that card at this point desu

>>103152001
>>103151974
Got a 7800X3D with 64GB 6000CL30 RAM this March, and can confirm Paradox shit loves this setup very much.

>>103152057
and the 7800X3D is no longer being made so.

>>103152081
I've heard 8800XT is going to have 4080/4080S/4080TiS performance, which is around 7900XTX.

>>103152112
Im sure the full chip can match 7900xtx made on a smaller node
but..most are gonna be binned and cores disabled

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>>103152089
MH Wilds also had huge problems with VRAM. Would 64GB 6000CL30s be good for nay game now? Like looking forward in to 3-5 in to the future.

What are the recommended CPU/GPU config for doing/running AI stuff (images, videos, text to voice and LLM)

What's the best value for money and what's just a very good config?

>>103152142
generally you want 80-90 series nvidia gpu + something like 9950x

What would be the best 9800x3D build with an mATX mobo, 64GB of ram (no rgb on either)?

>>103152129
Don't care about MonHun so don't really know, but I believe this setup will be more than enough for the next few years. I also have a 4080S, so didn't have any problems with any games even with all the usual background tasks open. Although I don't usually play AAA slop personally so your experience may differ.

>>103152178
x670e gene and this kit of ram
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8ZQKHx/corsair-vengeance-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-cmk64gx5m2b6000c30

>>103152121
I'm guessing the 8700XT will be 7900GRE tier for $499 which is the same as how the 8800XT will be 7900XT tier for $599
where things may get interesting is the 8600XT = 7700XT for $350 and the 8600 = 6700XT for $250

also, I'm betting the 7650GRE that was leaked will be using the Navi 33 Refresh that they're doing for laptop.

Budget 1440p GPU for 2010s games? That means games from 2010-2019

>>103152202
6800

>>103152202
used RTX 2060

>>103152194
any reason to not go with an x870 board?

>>103151883
What about 460 for 7800xt or 670 for 7900xt? Both gigabyte models are in sale now. (as a stop gap gpu until one more gen so those can handle 4k120 properly)

>>103152257
better put the money toward 5080 or 5070

>>103152129
RAM and VRAM are different things but yeah 64GB is the "headroom" choice for system RAM nowadays. 6000C30 is still standard on AMD and probably will remain so until they get CUDIMM support.

>>103152212
My case doesn't have space for 360mm GPUs

>>103152227
x870 is cheaper and just a rebrand of b650e
if you want the best, its x870e > x670e > x870 = b650e > b650

I got an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 420 to replace my NH-D15 (Massive piece of crap). Hopefully the Arctic is overkill for the 9800X3D otherwise I'm gonna order 3 more fans for push/pull so I can set the fan speed lower.

>>103152290
Might catch some flak for this but I'd say to just get a 4060Ti. It's in stock everywhere, small, sips power, and will play anything from that period at 100+ FPS. RDNA2 is good if you want to minmax, especially used, but it's getting harder to find and the higher tier models are (relative) power hogs.

>almost no reviewers test 9800xd at 4k
Why don’t they just go a step further and just test a $500 cpu at 480p instead?

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Which X870E bros. There's like a huge limit with varying options to choose from.

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>>103152337
Isn't 4060 Ti just 8 GB VRAM?

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>>103152361
>3d cache is only good for 1080p
It’s true

>>103152375
>>>/r/indiangaming

>>103152389
Redditor love amd. They even have a whole subreddit dedicated to extreme fanboys call r/ayymd

is it fair to say SFX PSUs are usually loud, as the fan has to spin faster to compensate for its smaller size?

>>103152346
see >>103151293

>>103152427
if they use high quality components the unit will be efficient enough to burn less excess power and be quieter overall. it also doesnt hurt to have a high quality fan as well that makes no noise unless it hits 80% rpm

>>103152310
in that case I will avoid the matx
>ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova
I have no idea what this is like with the 9800x3d but I saw a review that put it marginally ahead of the other x870e boards recently. Even though the price is a lot lower.
Asrock haven't failed me in the past (unlike asus and gigabyte) so I might just go for this.

>>103152457
what company/models usually have good fans?

>>103152458
the nova is a truly op board for sure. no other board other than the $1000 msi godlike supports 5 m.2. drives like the nova does and the nova also comes with a backplate where the pricier taichi lite doesn't

>>103152445
>putting 285k in the test
It’s seems like he still don’t get the point who the hell spends $500+ cpu gaming in 4k when the difference between a r5 or i5 to an 285k and 9800xd is negligible.

1080p is still real world but less preferred
1440p is the most optimal resolution
4k is a fucking meme that even the 4090 struggles to do above 60 unless DLSS is on, thus making your resolution not actually 4k

>>103152486
good thing the 285k performs like a $160 12600k in games so you know how cheaper cpus perform at 4k

>>103152460
seasonic, corsair, be quiet, fractal

>>103152490
1080p - performance
1440p - balanced
1800p - quality
2160p - ultra quality

>>103151293
Isn’t this the same guy who rants about how a nvidia’s gpu is overpriced but I guess it’s now ok when a amd’s cpu is overpriced

>>103152586
We call him amdunboxed for a reason

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monitor fags, is it worth to pay 20% extra for asus XG27ACS vs dell G2724D

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>>103152586
he comes at it from a gamer perspective. nvidia is overpriced for gaming. they're selling you less for more and it works because you retards eat up telemetry drivers & dlss fake frames.

is there any way in europe to custom paint or something like that so i have cool anthro boobs on my pc?

>>103152586
the only RDNA3 GPU he gave a good review to was the 7800XT

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i have a 4090
r 7800 x3d
4tb ssd / 64gb ram
also 4k monitor
but i still feel like i need to upgrade or im using a not fully perfect pc
im actually waiting for nintendo switch 2 to lay in my bed and do nothing but consoom mobile slop
what is this illness?
when i was off work neeting before getting the pc all i was doing is just playing on switch and i had fun
why is it so soulless with a pc now
im sitting at my chair and im feeling fucking unhappy

>>103152670
your unhappy because of the positive ions

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>>103152682
this anon knows.

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intel kicked out of Dow 30, replaced by Nvidia

it's never been more over

>>103152670
maybe you need a better ergonomic chair

>>103152744
>the US government gave 3 billion to this company only for them to fumble it over and over
it's over for them, just wrap it up and accept americans cant do chips

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>>103152670
>He did not wait® for even better parts
In all seriousness, find another hobby or learn new skills (self-improvement) in your spare time.
Some of us gradually grow out of GAYMEN.

>>103152609
I would get the XG27ACS for the variable overdrive feature, MonitorUnboxed approved.

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>>103152624
yes you just need to apply for the painting loicens and pay a modest fee (60% of your income)

>>103152838
>>103152838
>>103152838

>>103152744
>honeywell
I own their ptm 7950 and air conditoning units

>>103152586
CPU: $479, cheaper than Intel's high end gaming CPUs were back when they had any.
GPU: $1600, and $1200 for the budget version.

Yes, Nvidia's GPUs are overpriced, while the CPUs aren't. When AMD starts charging more than $1000 for a consumer CPU, I'll complain about it then.