>Intellectually competent main character>An understanding of history and geopoliticsThis web novel mocks every single Mexican fiction writer, that's both laughable and depressing.Why does Latam literature have to be obsessed with garbage that has nothing happening, but it's written in 'pretty prose'?
>>25183937>either AI image or terribly drawn>isekai slop>appeal to thirdworlders
>>25184747Go shove a MIGA dildo up your ass, Trumpanzee
>>25184758Since when is being anti-mass produced slop a right wing opinion? AI is mass produced. Isekai too.
>>25183937How are people like koreancuckslope enjoyer op is allowed to post on our 196 iq litboard?
>>25184856>196 iq>Reads literary slop about Leopold Bloom doing nothing
You have eyes but failed to see Mount Tai! EditionStubbed >>25172742>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25184469many such cases in Chinese WNs, though usually it’s done for comedy or because the premise of the WN is based entirely around the MC collecting a harem
>>25183910Personally, I just write what's the most noticeable about the environment since apparently the readers kinda appreciate that
>making myself laugh with my own writingcan't tell if I'm a simple retard or an esoteric genius
>>25184238Yeah, I dropped that faggot chapter one.
>>25183470The Wandering Inn
What does /lit/ think of this man and his works? Man that saw the writing on the wall and was broken by the modern industrial world or just a manchild that didn't like working?
>>25183501Both
Ham on Rye and Post Office are both easy 10/10s
>>25183525Filtered lol
>>25183501My grandpa saw Charles perform in the 60s with his mum
>>2518350190% drivel, 9% good poetry
Monsters, Dragons, Beasts, Creatures, Horrors, and Miscellaneous Lifeforms Edition Version 2: Magical and/or Alien BoogalooFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25183713Pick a name of a rural town from each country and call them that.
>>25183702>Without the ability to reset from sudden deaths, your characters would be likely to die young from freak accidents.Only if they couldn't see it coming.
>>25184566Bingo.
The same principles that allow Wizards to see into the future, thus bypassing causality, also allow them to channel energy from "unused" parts of the spacetime continuum, thus giving the illusion that they are creating energy from nothing.While the fact they can break the laws of physics is pretty cool this has two negative consequences on the local and cosmic scale respectively:1. On the local scale, someone who can seemingly do work with nothing is effectively capable of bypassing the need to participate in the give and take of society. They are effectively gods among men, and will always break the social contract.After all, imagine a billionaire who can use his infinite money glitch to do whatever the hell he likes, without needing to worry about government interference, strikes, or even common sense. Can you imagine what such a person could do? Especially since the one thing their magic can't give them is genuine respect and validation from other humans, meaning they will only participate in society to awe people and demand their reverence. A god complex isn't just likely, it's inevitable. And that's bad for democracy. 2. On the cosmic scale, the regions of spacetime that are being mined for energy tend to.....collapse. They get destabilized. It's like taking out bricks from a house. And since they are being destabilized on the smallest level imaginable, and with supernatural means, the consequences are equally supernatural.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Me personally, I can't move on til my conlang is complete
I remember school and university, where trying to get good grades and paying attention in class made teachers and other students think I'm a nerd, when I would actually just study, say, math on my own, with a tutor, in class, read about it online and still barely pass exams and testsI easily learned english as a child, but when it came to learning a third foreign language in school I was very below average, one of the worst students in my group, it was humiliatingI've now tried to learn a few languages (French, German, Latin, Spanish, Russian, probably a few others I've forgotten too) and I've struggled with them a lot, even studying every day for 3 hours (I did manage to keep up that pace) would generally not net me anything. it doesn't help that there are so many charlatans in the language learning "hobby space" that you don't even know what "method" to use while learning a language. probably the worst thing is that language learning communities are full of intelligent people who have many languages under their belts and this is their special interest and you can't compare yourself to themI like reading books and don't really like video games or TV, so I spend a large chunk of my free time reading. I know a bit about history, philosophy, things like this which automatically make other people think you're intelligent, but it's a bit of an illusion and I've disappointed pretty much every teacher I've had in my life. in general I am a pretentious failure who is well read enough, knows about history, philosophy and thinks he's intelligent, so I can discuss things with other people, but honestly, with the philosophy that I've read it's more that I memorized the logic but don't actually understand anything at all. it would take one actually intelligent person who's read enough as me to show that I'm just a complete fraud and retardI'm too stupid and lazy to ever learn another language
>>25181027>but everyone I know thinks I am a legitimate genius.does not have to do with YOUR iq but with theirsI've seen 70 IQ people worship me because I could turn on a computer. does it take X IQ to turn on a computer? no. does it take 70 IQ not to know you could also do it? yes.
>>25180947You sound like a genuine loser honestly.It's good to know yourself to the point you're aware of your capabilities, and humble, so that you don't think embarrassing things like what you admitted to in this thread. You're halfway there in that respect, realizing that you're not a divine creature because you once read big books and that true intelligence is more than mere learnedness. But your entire thought process is entirely pathetic. How young are you? I assume you dissappoint your tutors because you have a chronically low self-esteem
>>25181488Genuinely high intuition IQ post. Read Bergson. You'll make it
>>25181488checked>>25181397>>25181396>can't put it into satisfactory languagedon't confuse thinking (words) with languagelanguage can be many things (art is also a language, a visual one), but words are somewhat limited and even deceitful, even though they hold great power because you can program your brain with them... although I do not recommend this, remember the story in the Bible with the snek & al.>The feeling is not really in the language the same way it is not really in the paint.it can be, although it takes masterful orchestration: a lot of things pointing towards the same "feeling"... maybe not too many, though, man also has other things to do in life>understandingyou are abusing that word; I understand (lol) why that other anon recommended you Bergson, as he uses "intuition" for what you mean by "understanding;" Easterners call it awareness or attention, although there is a slight difference because these require effort while intuition is "automatic" and is served by degrees akin to IQ; some philosphers call it apprehension ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprehension_(understanding) ), as it's closer to the notion of "understanding," just like you intuitedI would not recommend you read Bergson... just go directly and read either Edinger (non-fiction) or Calvino (fiction), some of their works are decent; once you understand (lol) what you are looking for, you'll find other relevant stuffComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25181636>>25181712>>25183102This seems incredibly naive and reductive to me. I think it's nothing but a grandiose fantasy to think you will speak "plainly" and "clearly" and be "understood" by a room. In reality you will speak in a way that perhaps to you seems "plain" and "clear", the room will pull whatever bits and pieces they like out, misinterpret what they please however it suits them, and not care at all what is "plain" or "clear" in your mind because it will just as easily, without effort, become abstract and poetic in their own whether they are feeble or strong. And it happens free of their will because that is the natural work of the mind.The struggle for "plainness" and "clarity" is (ironically) itself a vague subjective effort. What it achieves is often a defeating of itself as this dogged adherence to plainness and clarity robs the thoughts of their innate power. I suppose scientism is to blame for this idea that understanding is only achieved purely through recurring simplification. That you can just "boil down" whatever you like via a "practical" intelligence. That the end goal of all discourse is a de-constructive "breaking down" for its own sake. It's no wonder that art itself often becomes simplified in a post scientific revolution world.
Where have all the serious, urbane, book-reading men gone and why have they been replaced with women?
>>25180290this is the correct answer. I literally had to get a formal degree in a (non-STEM) subject I'm interested in and make an honest living from it just to have my said interest be accepted by society.Women on the other hand are just holes for fucking. They have zero accountability and they are held to no standards.
All I needed was to find /lit/ for literature to become the most important thing in my lifeIt was Bloom's school of resentment theory, the idea that good literature is often quite challenging and actually required effort to appreciate and that there was a lot more literature out there than what my high school English teachers (female) recommended to me which transformed literature from something feminine into something masculine, exciting and powerful
>>25184818that's good to hear but please keep in mind that spending too much time in online forums is bad for your mental health. tldr: touch grass.
>>25179891>shakespeareHe would be a deano with a tight misses named Anne and three kids.>milton On the dole.
why are so many people itt acting like shes rich/trustfund/sucknfucked for the money to do this when its just some ikea billy bookcases stapled to the wall and it honestly looks low quality and poorly done. the wallpaper backing is ugly too.anyway op, from what I can tell theyre off shitposting on twitter while women are shitposting their bookslop on tiktok and instagram
>references works from Molière and Foucault>jokes from Much Ado About Nothing, Brazil, Fight Club>quotes Politics and the English Language>features multiple fat niggersis Office Ladies /ourgame/?visual novel bread
>>25184833did you finish it? the ai slop is a pretty core part of the theme of the story
>>25184835Still, I can't abide by it's use.
>>25184822Holy pseud
>>25184822It's more of a JRPG than a VN, but close enough.
>>25184849Step one: transition.
How can people read shit with genuinely terrible prose? If something I am reading has bad prose I can’t finish a single page.
>>25183974This is why I could never read web novels even if I approached them with the dumb fun angle, the fucking middle school tier prose feels like poison to my soul
>>25183974Because they're stronger than you, obviously.
>wanking the words on the page instead of the content of the textGames and movies seem more your speed. Stick to those.
>>25183974>prose fags getting filtered by plot chads yet againyour flowery language is faggy and your shit's all retarded
>>25184713>clarityInconsequential, artistry is all that matters.
Which philosophers have totally 180d on their previous held views and repudiated themselves?
>>25184742>Clearly, the illiberal American and Israeli regimes bombing and subverting Iran and installing Palavi Jr upon an authoritarian police state just like his father will prove that liberalism is the true and final teleological-ideological political system at the end of history!You are deranged. Stop responding and clowning yourself.
>>25184815All true, but you’re not gonna like what comes after liberalism either. Eventually they’ll stop giving their little PR speeches about how Israel is the center of Western civilization and we must bomb schoolchildren to protect our freedom, blah blah blah. They’re just going to take down all the liberal guardrails say fuck the kids and kill indiscriminately just like Israel does. America under Trump is rapidly becoming a rogue state and do not be surprised if you soon start seeing op-eds about how we need to use tactical nukes in Iran. We’re entering a time of recklessness resembling the lead up to WW1
>>25184832>the closest the fleshmask has come from falling off entirely.I'm pretty well aware of where we're going given my above statement. Also, they're flagrantly building the Palantir/Oracle AI surveillance system to prevent a revolution at home as well. However, I think their bid to build their false god and a perpetual world domination machine is going to get frustrated by natural chaos and authentic black swans.
>>25172456The same, but with communism and one party dictatorships instead of democracy and liberalism.
>>25181801>Liberalism wants everyone to be able to get a driver's license and yet they believe in speed limits!>Curious!>I am very intelligent!
I am trying to write fun novellas with good prose, but for the love of God, all I can ever write about is the problem of suicide, and the farthest I've strayed from his is low brown economics and political philosophies (the pro-wrestling of philosophy) masquerading as actual philosophy. My characters can barely pontificate about anything besides how they deal with their own suffering, like I am somehow repeating time and time again what Camus has already talked about in the 1940s.I guess it does not help that I have struggled with the problem of suicide myself, and frankly have so much ceased to find joy in the struggle that I'd have blown my brains already had I not given away my one gun.Everything else just feels unimportant, but I have nothing particularly interesting to add to what Camus has already written.
>>25184471I see a few approaches to try. Find another space to vent, whether within a different outlet or writing elsewhere. Let yourself see it through and it will be what it is, or turn it into auto fiction and use it to work through your pain. I don't know if you're just writing for yourself or an audience, but you could keep this one and copy it once your mind's off things. Pick and choose what you'd like to keep and what needs changed with a fresh set of eyes.
just shoot yourself up with opioids on your deathbed
>>25184471write your way out of ithttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ
>>25184471I think you underestimate how different life could be, you lack imagination and historical perspective and sympathy. What causes that feeling of "life is worthless" is actually merely elements of this past century
>>25184471Start lifting weights
that's what I think
poetry has never really been defined as an art form. for most of history it was not even written down, it was performed verbally, often accompanied with music. but today poetry is just considered something written down, which has little in common with its most common form for thousands of years. nobody even really knows what poetry means
>>25184760Why did you use prose to say it then
Tango edition/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM [Open]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s [Open]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk [Open]Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25184722>>having AI give you ideas or suggestions for scenes, chapters, setting content, or charactersonly nomenclature and drafting up bureaucratic sounding nonsense since i'm terrible at it>>having AI compare your written chapters or scenes to your written story outline/lore-book/character sheet to check for internal consistencyclaude's decent at this but there are some continuity issues he flags that don't exist, although this is a flag in itself to clarify the objects in a scene>>having AI read your chapters or scenes and check for grammatical mistakes onlyyes, and feedback because i'm insecure enough to enjoy the validation
>>25184722AI hallucinates and has no subtlety. I find it works best with grammar and word choice
>>25184722>>25184727and I forgot to include, word choice when I'm blanking on a specific term or can't find an adjective/verb that fits the tone, the tone suggestions only work about 10% of the time though
Hiya /lit/ wanted to stop in and drop this thing I had been writing for the past few weeks for a college class and just finished tonight, figured maybe you guys might wanna give it a read, its not super long. It however is the most bleak and fucked up thing I think I've ever written so hope you guys like it :Dhttps://pastebin.com/k8jBX6DG
>>25184722Using it for directly generating your writing defeats the purpose of writing. >>25184829Are you a woman? Either way not a fan. Fascination with childhood abuse disgusts me and you didn't even convey the hopelessness or whatever of the main character very well. No one needs more true crime inspired slop.
>around 100 years ago, Fernando Pessoa was strolling through Lisbon when he passed by a friend of his, a notorious homossexual dandy poet, who was hand in hand with a sailor. He decided to engage in friendly banter and chatised him, saying: "Mr. Botto, have you got no shame!? Doing these things on a Friday on Lent!?>the guy replied: Fernando, my friend, sailor is fish
Ma soovin, et veedaksin vähem aega üksi internetis. Ma olen oma elu raisanud ja ma ei oska isegi korralikult inglise keelt. Ma olen väärtusetu läbikukkunud.
>>25184369The joke is that eating meat is slang for sucking dick. The response is that sailor [penis] is seafood
Ma pole selle portugallase sulest kunagi ühtegi raamatut lugenud. Mida ma oma eluga teen? Ma ei suuda oma kaasmaalastega ühendust luua, sest mul on internetist tingitud autism.
>>25184332>>25184339>>25184351>>25184369>>25184384>>25184389Spergy…
The Chad ESL>Posts an earnest contribution, completely unafraid of ridicule when faced with the challenge of writing in a language that isn't their ownThe virgin EFL (permanent monolingual btw)>Immediately has a mental breakdown over nearly nothing and is reduced to a neurotically blabbering mess that contributes nothing to the dialogue
What are some good books that came out this year or last? I want to educate myself…
Are Hunger and Growth of the Soil any good?
Existentialist garbage. If you're Christian you're not going to enjoy it.
>>25184447So as a Hellenic polytheist, will I like it or not?
>>25184530you will love it
knutzi
>>25184447I am a Christian and I loved it.By the way Christianity has a strong existentialism at its core. Read any of the gospels and tell me that there is nothing existential about them.
