I've been playing games for almost two decades now and people who pump Charisma are consistently the most useless faggots in every party. And this remained true even during the very few times I have attempted it myself.I have no choice but to arrive at the conclusion that Charisma and every one of its iterations across every fucking game ever is just genuinely useless placebo dog shit. And when pressed to justify their investment charismafaggots always ramble about how good it is in real life as if that has any fucking bearing at all on TTRPGs.Besides, it's not that good in real life either. Actors and performers were considered on the same level as prostitutes in status for most of history.
>>97308068better charisma would have helped my feeblewilled rogue not go insane on several occasionsi never felt the need to ham it up or be dour because of the score, though
>>97308246How would you feel, if I made a character who was a veteran tactician, his backstory involves him being instrumental to a skirmish that will go down in history as one of the biggest examples of David vs Goliath, and I have the stats, skills, feats, and background to back it up...And I said, to your face, at the start of a battle..."I roll to automatically resolve the battle, because I use my expert tactical knowledge to get through it with minimal losses"?
>>97310081I would ask you if we're playing a high level game in that case, because otherwise I have no idea how your character did all that shit and got such high stats. And if we were plying a high level game I would tell you that the other side has a master tactician to your level, so the battle becomes instead a puzzle to solve.
Doesn't 5e have a fucking dedicated splat (even if thrird part) for more in-depth charisma mecanics like picrel? I need a set of ready to go answers to throw at 5efags every time they start bitching since hytnpd&d apparently isn't an acceptable answer.
>>97308068You may legitimately just be low IQ
Is Spycraft the only good tabletop game to play a secret agent / glowie?
>>97305631Seven people.
>>97298911Everyone is John.
>>97305881Eight!>>97298934Though I second the recommendation for Gumshoe, particularly as implemented in Night's Black Agents.
you can always count on Bond.>>97300221I never got to play corporation, Alas
Conspiracy X 2nd edition seems good for this, as is Delta Green thogh the subject material can get pretty fucking bleak.
After about 8 years since I last DM'ed a game, I've been asked to run a session. Unfortunately my books - adnd, 2e, 3e, 3.5, 4e, and 5e are in storage two states away.And i prefer physical copies. Thanks to critical role and the movie DND books have gone up in price which is weird.>4e books are ~10-15$ now. Is it viable to run 4e in 2025? I don't remember hating it and I still remember some home rules to streamline combat to speed it up a touch. Does anyone have suggestions for 1-3lvl adventures or campaign settings? >4e thread I guess
>>97300467Not even people who play 5e seem to like rolling stats, every game I have been invited to or was evenly remotely interested in had the party use point buy or standard array.
>>97309025>That's exactly what happens when you randomly generate stats though. One character will inevitably be better than the rest. Only when the stat system is badly tuned for random generation. 4e just happens to be one poorly designed for random generation due to them tuning the game around +3 and higher stat bonuses.
>>97309199>intentionally ignore devs advice on what makes for best games>is surprised when game doesn't work as well as it couldI mean, you can run a car on 50 octane gasoline, doesn't mean you will get the best performance from it.
>>97309424I wasn't the poster you original responded to. I was just countering your supposition that random generation inherently generates imbalanced characters. 4e pretty much only includes the 3 to 18 stat curve in character creation due to it being a D&D sacred cow. That doesn't mean that in other games stats generated with rolls of 3d6 would cause characters to under perform. 4e is just tuned with a "16" being the expected minimum value for a main stat which means that only about 4.62% of 3d6 rolls are viable main stat rolls.
>>97310041That is why I brought up the dev's advice, as well as how in the core book, the arrays are presented before rolling stats.The arrays are clearly the preferred method.
Writing General: 'festive' editionWelcome to /wg/, the thread for all /tg/ related writing. Whether you're plotting your campaign, trying to come up with a character backstory, or just trying to write some setting fluff, this is the place to post it. You don't even have a campaign, just an idea you want to develop? You're welcome here. While the rest of /tg/ is arguing over monstergirl mating and which way rivers are supposed to flow, we're here to help you turn your thoughts into an actual finished product.As the successor to the Storythreads, we're also open to /tg/ related fanfiction (D&D, Warhammer, Battletech, whatever). In fact, if you've written any vaguely /tg/-related short stories, you can try them out here. We also have flash-fiction challenges from time to time.There's a discord for writers herehttps://discord.gg/6AwKHGFThe previous thread can still be found in the archive here>>96644454And finally an archive of /tg/ fiction can be found here:http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Storythread (dead link, but may be resurrected one day)https://2d4chan.org/wiki/Storythread (page missing, wiki still up)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97298036What >>97298685 said; anonymity is generally a big part of being a criminal. If they don't get caught, why would the cops know who they are?But also, generally in Cyberpunk settings crime is so rampant that the cops can't afford to treat armed gangs with the same seriousness that irl cops do. Your gang could just be one amongst hundreds operating in just that city. A shootout that tears up half a city block might be a global news event today, but in a Cyberpunk setting it's just another Tuesday. Much as the cops might like to mobilise the whole department to hunt them down, there are a dozen other calls that are as serious or even moreso that they have to respond to.>>97275738>>97284799I fully intend to read these I have just been very busy.
Hi guys, I'm working on a new adventure I'm about to kick off and I'm thinking of giving the party rogue a chance to get mixed up with some fellow criminals and maybe join in on a heist plot, but I'm struggling a bit to come up with ideas of how to do that organically in a new area with no pre-existing contacts, thieves generally being rather notorious for keeping their business to themselves.The area is a mining town and I'm thinking of potentially having a ring of thieves there plotting to rob eg the mining company payroll or the local merchant bank, but the challenge is figuring out an "in" for my player. I'm thinking they might notice someone suspicious casing the target or something? Or maybe lifting a key off a guard? Another idea I had was that a miner or other local could mention that an out-of-towner they didn't know had paid or offered to pay unexpectedly well for some information to do with the target, person being asked not sure why but seemed a bit fishy.Still a bit unclear on how they could actually integrate themselves with the gang after a "tip-off" like this thoughAny other suggestions for hooks I could use or how I might further develop this idea? I'm pretty new to all this.
>>97309375Two ideas without making it too complicated>the criminals recognize the rogue character since they simply know how to spot each other>the criminals fail in their endeavor, or they succeed with some crime nearby, and the rogue notices it, and then decided to investigateThere is a chance that the rogue player doesn't bite, regardless of what you plan to do. Don't railroad him, but maybe you'll can let him know that he's missing out.
>>97309416Yeah nah, if it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen but I'm thinking I'll drop a hint or two that I can develop if the player goes for it. If they don't pursue the lead I might have the robbery go off as an event at some point regardless, to whatever result.>the criminals fail in their endeavor, or they succeed with some crime nearby, and the rogue notices it, and then decided to investigateGood ideas, but I figure generally a string of thieves working a big score wouldn't want to draw too much attention to themselves by doing other jobs on the side, that's why I was thinking of lifting an office or key or something that'd actually be working towards the main robbery. Having them try the job and botch it feels a bit dicey because how would that not result in the kind of heat that'd make them hesitate over going ahead with the job?>the criminals recognize the rogue character since they simply know how to spot each otherI dunno if most groups would just suddenly bring in a new member on a job who they've never met before and have no references for, but I've kinda been thinking maybe the angle could be like they know they've been made so they offer to cut the new guy in to guarantee they don't rat. I guess it could also just be that they're having trouble working out all the details and think they need one more guy to pull it off, but it's a little less compelling maybe?
fuckers raved about pathfindermy players tried it outthey fucking hated itthank GOD
>>97309910>OSR too simple>Pathfinder too hard>5e just rightNerds here don't understand that for the average person is just the right amount of complexity. I would however encourage you to open your group to other systems, maybe not high fantasy related so that they feel the mechanics as different as the tone of the game, maybe something Sci Fi related
>>97304369>Look into Pathinder>It's functionally just D&D with minuscule changes>90% of things that make D&D shit are still in thereLiterally who is this for other than autistic grogs who are mad at the direction nuD&D took, but for some reason just refuse to play older editions?
>>97304369I feel like being too dumb to play the other dnd isn't exactly brag worthy but I guess there's a reason why you'll never move on from 5e
>>97307095if it helps they said the same thing with daggerheart. one trainwreck of a game later and they've never brought it up again>>97309968dont worry anon, I'm running traveller the next time we play
>>97305400dnd youtbers? critical role? they watch that
>love thinking of all the cool ideas for my campaign>when it comes time to actually prep them it feels like tortureHow do I fix this?
>>97308970Not him, but the difference is that if it's the former, the issue is probably lack of focus and ability to sit your ass down to analise and think your ideas through in depth and break them down/organise them into something more tangible instead of just vibing and daydreaming (which can stem from things like dopamine addiction, ADHD, overal lack of discipline, too many distractions etc.)Meanwhile if it's the latter, OP is clearly able to come up with well thought out and polished ideas, but has issues fitting them into a larger conceptual framework of narrative, quests, locations, lore etc., in which case he could probably just use more inspiration, some examples to rip off and learn from or some overall theory of story/world construction
>>97308547For me it's>create the most wretched but functional word docs with ideas cascading using bullet points, charts/dice tables, etc>the moment I try to make it look good to share online I get design paralysis because I can't make a good looking product
>>97308960Kinda wild that was 19 years ago. I remember people making porn of him on /b/. Mostly memory-holed at this point despite the insane number of frags.
>>97308970the actual work a GM must do involves preparing maps, monsters, NPCs, traps, challenges, and stuff like that - the actual things that players see and do. Worldbuilding and "wouldn't it be cool if"-s don't actually help a GM when it comes to preparing and running games.
>>97309121Well I’ve found that typically the latter comes after the former. At least when making characters. I’m able to focus down one idea and build towards it with concrete character traits and life events into what made him that idea of a character. It’s a lot of fun. For building a setting its different for me somehow. I build around concepts and gossamer daydream ideas the same way and the end product sucks. I know cause my group hates my settings where in contrast they really like my characters. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong with building creative ideas as a dm I thought I could just show up and make something but it’s a lot harder than that, which I can appreciate now.
Work in Progress, Corsair Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97309727awesome and even the table is colored retro green
>>97309582Well Bezos forbid you'd ever buy paint online in a way that he won't profit from.>>97309727Chapter symbol on the right pauldron?
>>97309861They got a japanese copy of the codex, please understand
>>97309861>Chapter symbol on the right pauldron?Just like it better that way.
That's the crewman done sans arms that haven't turned up yet.
I want to have players more invested in the creation of the world itself, and what embodies it. An old GM I played with would have players name NPC's as they were introduced, so I'm looking for more things like that.
It's pic related. Peter Jackson tried to copy Blix's swag for a good reason
>>97303851I disagree. An intelligent wolve would not allow an orc riding on it.Regarding best Orc design, I have not seen a fully compelling design here.>>97291442comes closest, but not fully convinced.An orc shouldn't have a too long nose, big ears, or a high forehead, because this makes it look intelligent and cultured. It shouldn't have large, boar-like teeth like the Warcraft orcs. That looks silly (how do they sound when they talk?). Its face shouldn't resemble a boar's either, it is dumb but not dumb like a pig. It should have dirty, gray-brown-green, slimy skin, similar to frogs. It should walk in a manner comparable to apes. Its face shouldn't show any human emotions or significant intelligence. Its pupils should be barely visible and small, if at all. Its hands and feet can have claw-like toes, possibly fewer than five toes and fingers. Its body proportions should be more human than ape-like, with many variations (fat, tall, or short, thin orcs). Arms can be slightly elongated, legs slightly shortened, but not extremely so, because otherwise the orc will have a certain arachnid intelligence about him. Especially its body shall not be smaller than that of a human. Its clothing should be comparable to that of cavemen, primarily leather. Primitive metal armor is conceivable. Generally speaking, it should be clear that an orc can never be a friend of a human, dwarf, or elf. It is too much of a wild animal. Its physiognomy should reflect this. However, the orc should not be impressive or mysterious, but trivial. It should have some similarity to humans, should have a primitive culture, that has no mentionable moral norms, but is nevertheless capable of language, making tools, and having leaders. It is a group being forming hoardes, not a single indepent warrior.
>>97307655>I disagree. An intelligent wolve would not allow an orc riding on it.Well, you'd be wrong, because Tolkien wrote that wargs were intelligent wolves and were used as mounts.
>>97290361>>97290376Just watched this movie last night because of this thread and it was retarded. Blix just disappears halfway through the movie with no conflict and is never seen again?
>>97307655>An orc shouldn't have a too long nose, big ears, or a high forehead, because this makes it look intelligent and culturedwhat?
>>97290361Love that design, but I think I still prefer the goblins from Labyrinth.
Christmas Edition>Previous thread:>>97173638Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team,Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds,Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster ...... and any other GW system and board game are welcome.>Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V>TQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97306764Yes and no, one of their leader units rides a bug that is considered a vehicle which is not permitted in standard games.Other anon replying to you apparently plays with house rules that deal with this and has forgotten that that is not RAW, or has forgotten that the unit exists due to never using it because of this.This unit is their main gimmick, creating dust storms to give their aforementioned "ranger" role a place on the battlefield, that being said they are lore-wise NOT IN THE HIVE and were very specifically designed for that specific game type.If you don't know this you're new, so new that you shouldn't be fucking around with mary sues and niches, you should stick to one of the base gang houses.
>>97306764Other anons have covered it rather well, my two cents is that like Enforcers, Spyrers, Venators and Malstrain they are a gang best left to the Game Master to play as NPCs so the GM can be a part of the playing without having your GM play favourite with their own personal gang, each of those choices only properly fitting in certain scenario types and none of them truly being "gangs" so the GM cycles between them through a campaign.
Gathered a classic fellowship for Warhammer Quest 95! Barbarian already stripped, elf is waiting for a bath.
>>97308829Face it Tiger, Enforcers are a proper gang, and there is nothing you can do about it. As has already been mentioned, their incredibly popular and they've got more support than most "real" gangs.
>>97308829absolutely retarded take, how are enforcers or venators not well integrated into generic campaigns like dominion?
Pot Luck Edition>2024 PHB Scanhttps://files.catbox.moe/g8oo9h.pdf>Cropped and rotated, but more artifactyMjAyNCBQSEIsIE5vIFRodW1icywgT0NSZWQsIEFub24ncyBCb29rbWFya3MgdHJhbnNmZXJyZWQgb3Zlci4gCgpodHRwczovL2Vhc3l1cGxvYWQuaW8vd2Fvcm9h>2024 DMGhttps://files.catbox.moe/fd04pq.pdf>2024 Monster Manualhttps://files.catbox.moe/atd38s.pdf (D&D beyond version)https://pomf2.lain.la/f/1en5qwum.pdf (scan)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97309093Only a fool calls a general a coward for not leading the charge.
>>97300608I never understood the gnome hate meme.
>>97309820Then clearly, you didn't see the island.
>>97300098>Need 1,000 Gold Coin so I can purchase a gem that I can then use to Planar Bind an Invisible Stalker I summoned, or anything else>Was near close to 1,000 Gold Coins but had to spend some money on some AC increasing items so I could avoid getting slammed and smashed by the DM>Also have to pay rent on some fucking haunted lighthouse with the rest of the Party>Some of the Party are also broke :^)>The most Broke Bum Member of the Party was given the opportunity to win 5,000 Gold Coin in a music competition, he's a Bard>Declines itYea sure he can do whatever he wants it's his character but he also went broke spending all his money on lingerie and owed people money at one point so what's the plan here.
Question 1:One of my players is playing a bard and has had shitty rolls for his level ups. I get the impression he is very bored with his character. I have suggested he roll a different character, but he refuses. And I have tried to give him some roleplay opportunities to compensate but he does not take them. Should I just buff him on the next level up so he is no longer dead weight?Question 2:I'm looking to integrate a few combat rules from older DnD versions to make it a bit more tactical, any pitfalls I should look out for?>>97309820Sounds like you don't know enough about gnomes then, the devilish creatures.
>>97309064>>97309079Lovely samefag there
>>97309312Idiot
>>97309331Multiple computers, I know
>>97309028>likely got reported by the ‘nooo magic is not the same nooo’ guyLOL, like I care so much about some derailed thread on /tg/ to even think of reporting some anonStill, I'm really flattered to read how I live rent free in your head, anon.
What are some fantasy and sci-fi movies you should watch to inspire your games and players?
>>97309541Kung Fu Hustle Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
>>97309499>>Konya wa Hurricane is now playing in your headI prefer Akuma to Tenshi no Kiss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwQOn7er0-Q
>>97309857Kung Fu Hustle is unironically kino and an excellent king fu movie. The balance between serious themes and slapstick comedy is legendary
>>97309984Though Kung Fu Hustle is his best work, Stephen Chow's other movies are also great. God of Cookery I especially liked, but Shaolin Soccer is another standout.
>>97309949I still like Hurricane better, as it perfectly captured the 80s rock sound.Kiss is a lot more pop sound, in a way I don't think fits the dark cyberpunk setting. Too hopeful, power of friends type.I respect it, tho, because it cleaves to the heart of the series, that being a group of women trying their damndest to make a better world.Regardless, it is bittersweet, because we will never have this kind of sound, this, dare I say, soul, again. I stand with you, anon, in love for days long past, never to return.
Yu-Gi-Oh! General #592"how the fuck is this deck still meta" EditionPrevious thread: >>97236634Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online PlayAutomated Sims:●EDOPro website: https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●EDOPro: https://discord.gg/ygopro-percy●YGO Omega: https://discord.gg/duelistsunite●Dueling Nexus: https://duelingnexus.com/●Master Duel: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97307366> I dislike using unhealthy cards to counter unhealthy strategyOh. Make no mistake, in 2011 formats Maxx "C" is actually a very balanced card. It is designed specifically for this time period. In these formats the vast majority of decks can genuinely just stop their thing and prepare to do it again next turn and not lose due to it most of the time. Maxx "C" is not hitting at all decks like Dino Rabbit or HERO Beat as they don´t special summon that much, so Maxx "C" isn´t a must include for every matchup. Most of the time it woulnd´t give you more than 2 to 3 draws. The thing with "C" being broken in current times is that is a card from a very different era put in a world where you need to special summon to even breath and if you do not build a board ASAP, you will just be killed and if you still special summon, they will draw handtraps to make your boards less menacing and just kill you with every other card they drew. >How quickly?It depends. Some games are back and forth grind games, other games are not. Take a look at these replays to compare:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=1271254-77903867https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=770332-78001803>Fucking shit! But as expected of the OCG...Eh...not different from TCG honestly. Floodgates have always been too strong.>That doesn't sound good for a "diverse" format8 meta decks definitely sounds better than 4 or 2 if you ask me>I'm not a competitive player, so I find it cool if a FEW games are decided by some luck top deck like in the animeYeah, there are some cards that you can top deck that can change results entirely like Monster Reborn, Dark Hole or other late game strong cards like Miracle Fusion
>>97308777The strongest structure decks are the RDA structure deck and the Raidraptor structure deck but since those are wombo combo decks they might not suit your preferred playstyle. You can try building Labrynth since Konami is doing that bundle thing with a bunch of packs and accesories. It's not going to be cheap but you can always craft the rest of the cards that you need and dismantle any URs/SRs that you won't play.Here's a "cheap" build with only 12 total URshttps://ygoprodeck.com/deck/labs-678642
The only way Yu-Gi-Oh can become popular again is if Konami actually embraces legacy formats and builds off of them instead of trying to make half assed measures like speed duels
>>97309876Legacy formats are not going to move the needle at all. The only people that ask for "old yugioh" are the people that don't want to play yugioh anyways because their only experience with the game is playground rules with a bunch of pack filler cards rather than an established meta with a fixed card pool.The moment these people run into a Reasoning Gate deck in GOAT they're dropping the game again.
>>97309195>The thing with "C" being broken in current times is that is a card from a very different era put in a world where you need to special summon to even breath and if you do not build a board ASAP, you will just be killed and if you still special summon, they will draw handtraps to make your boards less menacing and just kill you with every other card they drew.And most relevantly on this topic, it can be used when you have already established a board, and most established boards are already capable of killing the opponent, much less when given an extra turn. The Mulcharmies are divisive, but it is significantly harder for them to empower the going first player.>>97309898It's partly playground Yugioh players.Another is people who come in from other card games with in-built assumptions for how they should be, not really recognizing Yugioh is kinda a different genre of TCG.A third is people that are brand new, because while there are some fanmade intros out there, the official Konami stuff is really bad at teaching the modern game. Pretty much just leaving you on trial and error, with often difficult to parse feedback for someone who is new.Legacy formats at most address 1 and 2, and 1 will largely die off from being hit by decks like the Reasoning Gate you mentioned. 3 is honestly kinda put in a detrimental state because of a mix of older rulings not being communicated, erratas having cards do different stuff to what they say, etc.
Danger Ranger Edition Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate RulerComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97309380>You stop playing or engaging with games once they die?I'd say most people do. Not many people are willing to engage with a hobby with no future and no support
>>97309294Hmmm, alright then. I do agree with you I've never played Masters but besides the fact that there are no locals for it near me anyway I'd never try to get into it with all the bloat it has. Digimon is fine I haven't played it since like BT14 though and I think One Piece and Gundam are two of the worst games on the market, especially Gundam. So as far as Bandai games that just leaves Fusion World which also just happens to have a client unlike their other games which means I don't even have to leave my house to play it but I also just enjoy it more than their other games.I really hope the Ki mechanic will be interesting. If it's just a generic power boost then I think that will be a disaster and I'll lose all hope in the game. I think counters wouldn't be the worst thing to add eventually even Digimon added them and that was always touted as a casual game.
>>97309438Yeah. Gotta consume. Playing isn't the point. Just need more product.
>>97308018My favorite from the soulful FFG era was game of thrones second edition. Such a good game.
How much can you reasonable expect to get from unique foil lands such as Saintweald, Fields of Camlann or River of Flame? In many sites they go over 100e but are people actually willing to pay that much?
