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This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games, including consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games. Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

Helpful links:
Game Tech Wiki
Emulation General Wiki

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What’s in the box?
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>>11356067
Why are you being a fagget
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>>11355836
First thought as a 35 year old boomer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og51MMJJYHo
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>>11356640
>Hollywood humiliation ritual

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https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/
https://retrosizer.com/

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>>11357413
Fuck dude, the other day I got bored and took a peek into that dump and I shit you not, first thread I see was a guy saying he collected too many of those and it was finally time to beat a game. You'll never guess the game and the handheld pictured.
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>>11357451
Fucking kek, it's not a stereotype for no reason.
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>>11357382
Looks painful for adult hands and personally I don't like the idea of any screen under 3.5in unless it's just old handheld games.
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>>11357467
It gets worse.
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>>11357487
>normal person finds out game he likes has way more content, gets stoked
>redditor finds out the game he slogged through past the title screen is only half over, cries
Just Anal Log things

I wish Urban Chaos (1999) had a good source port
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>>11357228
it's not a very good game

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Even if emulation exists. is there even a purpose of buying old consoles, anons?
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>>11357456
I still play my SNES almost every day. I don't know how to use a computer though
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>>11357124
You don't know what "even if" means. What you should be saying is "since emulation exists", what you're saying in those two words is the exact opposite to what you should be.
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>>11357472
>I don't know how to use a computer though
Phone poster? The only reason I sold my consoles is because I got a PC. When I had my first PC in 2001 I sold my PS1 and N64 instantly.
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>>11357489
Yep, I haven't had a computer since the XP days. Found 4chan from ED and browsed on my PC then but around 2013 it broke and I just never got a new one. Been browsing on mobile since, I remember/int/ before flags and I've been on /vr/ since day one even though I'm terribly behind the times
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>>11357489
>When I had my first PC in 2001 I sold my PS1 and N64 instantly.
Well that's the act of a retard. Despite your projection the vast majority of people who have older consoles play their games on them. It's one thing to say that a lot of people playing older games are emulating them, you're really claiming people with the original consoles don't bother using them, just emulate is ridiculous.

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i grew up with the ps2 and thought its system menu had uhh, idk, an eerie feel to it? almost as if you're terminally isolated, with no one there besides you. i believe the gamecube also got relatively similar ui design philosophy
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>>11356760
>wow, cheerful bunch here
Says the stalker
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>>11355383
This is probably due to the Post-9/11 world they all grew up which was constant fear mongering then combine that with the post 2010's internet they all grew up on that was some weird kind of post-irony shit where everything is fake.
It's quite sad.
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>>11354135
Never found it creepy, but it definitely leaves an impression
I was freaked out by the memory card menu when I was a kid though. Something about all the little moving icons on that blank background felt deeply uncomfortable
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>>11354135
>almost as if you're terminally isolated, with no one there besides you.
Is this why zoomsters have a need to be constantly online and seek the attention of others?
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I completely understand. It's a toy that 98%of the time exists to blast out bright colors and loud noises and when it instead projects nothing but ambiance it's a weird feeling. Same concept with Spongebobs end credits.

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post your most-hated level or dungeon in your favorite retro vidya
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>>11357481
i don't even know which thread you're referring to, as i'm a newfag lol
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Replayed OoT last year and found myself really loving the belly this time. You can slice at the walls, the vertical design, the red and blue colors and the boomerang is fun. Definitely remember not liking it as a kid though
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>>11357476
Jabu jabu is literally the best dungeon in the game after the forest temple
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>>11357501
you don't know what real masochism is until you've played this dungeon in master quest
what were the devs smoking when placing cows in the walls?
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>>11357481
Bingo. I'll play along though. Oot is probably my favorite game so if I had to pick a least favorite dungeon I guess it would be shadow temple. It's a great dungeon but it doesn't look like a good hang. I could chill in any of the other dungeons, assuming Link had cleared out the monsters and that magical clothing allowed me to stay a comfortable temperature

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Remember how a few weeks back I made a thread praising DKC3? Well I've come to reconsider and even tho 3 is absolutely solid, 2 is by far the best. The level design is just so tight, and it also gets a really good atmosphere of seedy pirate island going, especially the Kremland rollercoaster levels are absolutely amazing in this regard.

However I find that DKC otoh is really weak in comparison. Controls are noticeably worse than 2 and 3, it's much harder to get a feel for hitboxes and platforms. Also the whole bonus level concept is lousy, you're supposed to find them often with no proper hint, yet you barely get any reward. 2 and 3 worked this much better with the hidden world giving a proper incentive. And the animal tokens are the absolute worst, depending on where you grab one you might have to start the whole level over again. 2 definitely looks and feels way more polished than 1.

so tl;dr the official DKC ranking is:
2>3>1
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>>11357204
They did, because back then games were small enough those licesing deals made a difference.
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>>11356593
In general despite being "just" a platformer DKC2 manages to be incredibly athmospheric
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>>11356639
"breaking new ground" or "going backwards" doesn't make a game in itself better or worse. It may be a quality to consider, but it's wholly independent from the games quality.
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2 is obviously really good but the first will always be my favorite. It was the first game I ever played and the first game I ever beat. I love the more naturalistic environments and I honestly think it has one of the best OSTs of the 16 bit era. DKC is evergreen
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>>11356647
The one in DKC2 that gets me even when I've replayed it is in the first hornet level at the beginning, where you climb up to a door leading to a bonus level, and there's another ledge just below this one with another bonus level, but you get distracted by some banans hanging up high so you go get the banans then jump down and miss the second bonus level.

But I was really stoked back in the day when I discovered the additional bonus level in Haunted Hall, where you're about to enter a tunnel to a bonus level but you have to jump on top of that

Should I play the original Dragon Quest?
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>>11356526
wonderful quote. especially in relation to retro game. thanks anon
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>>11356460
At the end of the day it's two different flavours of shit, and at least Dragon Warrior has a great opening with nice music and aesthetic, and you could enjoy it for a little while, unlike cRPGs which are less fun than working on a spreadsheet.
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>>11350326
I've attempted to go through it a few times but I've yet to do a full playthrough of it. I hate how the series is localized in the west though so I have to go out of my way to search for some re-translated hack of it everytime I want to play it again
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>>11350893
Are we talking Chechnya, Georgia, Dagesan, Ingushetia or Armenia?
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>>11350852
Preach it brother.

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>>11356839
How a nigga has 8k hours in a game and doesn't even manage to get all the cheevos is wild, although I know they are kinda bugged in BFG edition
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>>11357065
zombies heads can gib but the bodies still disappear
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>>11357108
D3 zombie bodies only disappear when gibbed.
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>>11357024
It has some of the best enemy designs in the series.
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>>11353620
because it's a different game from a different time

it was well received back then as well
we were shitting our pants

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You can now manually aim in 2, 3, 4 and use first person. This is a wish come true for me for 20 years.
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>>11356363
I mean it's all functional, but I want to have no guesswork and want to be fully in control of the situation.

there's a spot in the labrynth where you get off a ladder, and there's clearly an enemy just off screen. Do you fire now? You could move forward to change the camera angle, but that will put you smack dab in the face of the enemy and take damage. You don't know that on your first play through. Or you could lock on, and blast away.

It's technically functional, but seeing what's ahead of you removes these kind of situations. there's often 1-2 seconds of figuring out where the enemies and assessing the sitaution are in the original camera system whereas you can react instantly now.

I would like something where you can switch between first person and third person on the fly.
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I love SH2 and it's one of my favorites, but oh by man I know why it turned off most games on release. It's one of those games that takes a few hours to get good. This is the standard early-game for most people:

>watch some cutscene of James in a bathroom and he reads some letter
>meet some cryptic crazy lady
>run through empty streets
>first enemy encounter
>then run around the streets with no clue what to do

This is where many people give up, declaring the game one of the worst ever. I'm not joking, this happened to me in high school.

>if they continue they get to the aparments which take forever
>most of the hallways and apartments look the same
>several scenes are interesting but the apartments are bland

It literally doesn't get good until Brookhaven, which might be 3-4 hours into your playthrough and roughly the half-way mark. Brookhaven has the first proper otherworld section, which Sh2 is mostly lacking.

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>>11354058
Looks nice for 3 but doesn't help the goofy James animations for 2. I can see why they remade it.
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>>11356987
>apartments
It was a bold choice to make the first location in the game the worst one.
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>>11356987
if you aren't getting into invested in the atmosphere after going through the lakeside walk with the eerie soundscape then meeting Angela in the graveyard, water we even doin here

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How do I play this piece of shit? I bought it off gog which is usually good for getting old games to run but this sure don't.
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>Gabriel Knight
>You're not actually a knight under the command of Gabriel himself on a war campaign against satan's minions
shit game
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>>11357126
>You're not actually a knight under the command of Gabriel himself on a war campaign
yeah that's true

>against satan's minions
Well that's sort of true.
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>>11357117
If you have linux, it works fine in Wine. No idea how to make it run on modern Windows though.
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>>11357126
>shit game

this game is pretty neat with an amazing atmosphere

the second part of the game when you have to do snooping and shit is not very good

the wine chateau part from the Demo version is the best

Referring to a walkthrough is pretty much required, especially the laptop puzzle parts
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>>11357375
>No idea how to make it run on modern Windows though.

it runs fine on most PCs
the problem is probably certain drivers or their settings (overriding 3d etc)

I grew up with Buu's Fury but beat this last week. Game kicked my shit in. Pretty awesome game though.
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Most of the appeal of LOG 2 and Buus Fury stemmed from them being a fairly comprehensive retelling of their respective arcs. In a day and age when 3 episodes ran you 20 bucks being able to experience a playable Cell saga in its entirety for 50 was pretty cool and worth looking past the Amerijank. I don't know if these games hold much value today outside of nostalgia.
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>>11357149
You'd think various Saibaimen would be the obvious choice for early henchmen. Raditz era Goku being two shotted by one of those guys would actually make sense. Oddly they aren't used once in LOG.
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>>11356062
You have a boss gauntlet with the Ginyus and a Frieza fight and then you're done. It's less than 20 minutes of content left once you get through the temple.
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>>11357475
The developers weren't really thinking in terms of what made up DBZ and instead just wanted to make use of the license. Goku learns the Kamehameha from a random village person too.
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>>11357483
True, what I find odd is they reference trivia like Yamcha being a baseball player and Mr.Satans rise to stardom yet King Kai teaches Goku the Solar Flare.

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So what's the best way to play Goldeneye (on a xbox 360 controller)?
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>>11356956
If the team at Microsoft had finished it, could they have used it as proof of concept for a new Bond release? Or did they attempt to anyway?

It's an interesting intermediate release, making you wonder what Bungie might've done with the Craig entries. Some of the cinematics are worse in terms of cinematography (Runway), while others are wayyy better (Arctic Surface of Severnaya). Strange how they added those dimly lit LED lights to the Complex as well, making it look like the Covenant homeworld, I guess they weren't interested in depicting tungsten lighting effects?
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>>11357103
Would you really rather give up the iconic look of the game in favor of a skyrim mod tier texture pack?
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>>11357238
>>11357446
you can swap to the old graphics with a button press
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>>11357450
that doesnt justify selling mod packs and the game twice
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>>11357450
That's not too bad then

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I can't believe people are paying hundreds of dollars for SD cards for this thing
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I thought there was only one expansion SD card for it?
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>>11357201
There's 2 and a 3rd is coming soon, but the first 2 sold out and are now out of print so people are paying hundreds of dollars for them.
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>>11357192
well it's called rEGRET


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