what books to read to a baby so that it does not go full chud
>>25183458>>25183478you lost, tranny
>>25185428this is the third time you've called me a tranny. you think about trannies more than trannies think about trannies. it's strange
>>25183478Chuddery is genetic. No amount of reading or conditioning can change it. Just hope that your son doesn't grow up to be an ugly manlet or somewhere on the disorder index. It's really not in your hands.
>Chuddery is genetic. No amount of reading or conditioning can change it. Just hope that your son doesn't grow up to be an ugly manlet or somewhere on the disorder index. It's really not in your hands.
>>25185678Where is he wrong? Modern society has soft imposed a new caste system where attractiveness is the main trait that is valued. Gone are the days where a uggo male can still get laid and breed because women have to settle so they can survive.
>>25185100>>25184944Why not an english to chinese-dictionary?
I would master the text of mastering texts
>>25184481 Probably the Illiad in Homeric Greek. I've been teaching myself for the last few months, as Homeric wasn't a module option at Uni, it was as Attic Greek or Latin, and I chose Latin. I've been learning with Pharr's book and a lexicon and making progress but it will be years and years before I "master" it, but that is one of my life's goals, to be able to read Homeric and eventually Attic Greek and Latin with a high degree of proficiency.
Hegel so I could articulate on why he’s wrong
>>25184481The biggest deepest recent math conference proceedings I can find, involving the most different topics. Then I would do some research to put on my resume, go work somewhere that has demand for math wizards and hopefully pays really well, buy as many houses as I can and rent them out, travel and learn other things that my new wizard knowledge probably makes seem trivial and things where it doesn't directly help at all. Not sure I should have children though, I would only have gotten that far due to magically becoming at least a world class mathematician, my children would be about as stupid as I am now, it feels evil, neither side would feel related to the other.
is this kino?
It's not Tropic of Kino anon
Disappointed to say I did not get any boners from this. Laughed at a few of the stories though.
If you're on the younger side and open to adventure, you can get on with his vibe. Give up the square life and and reinvent yourself as a flaneur (in your 40's) in Paris. Live by your wits, cultivate interesting friends and chase edifying experiences, seek the truth; from sublimeto vulgar, or ideally, a special blend of both. Very influential: all your fave writers have read him, but didn't ca$h in on his notoriety until late in life.If his writings don't grab you, try a biography as his life story is just as interesting/inspiring.Travel writing might be worth checking out... Colossus of Marousi or Air-conditioned Nightmare.
>>25184288i disagree, i read miller when i was younger and it flew over my head. read him again when i was older and was blown away. you have to toil as a wagie for awhile to really get tropic of cancer imo
for some reason my high school library had a copy of this book, I remember picking it up and got both a boner and filtered
books like this?
put anyone, fiction, politics, philosophy, math ect.accepting putting two in same grid if they are similar and important enough to you as each other
>>25180267If you weren't a newfag you'd know /lit/ likes the Iliad more.Shoehorning pynchon in there is just proof you've only heard of these other Classical greats. Unless you're literally 18 or something
>>25181141>If you weren't a newfag you'd know /lit/ likes the Iliad more.I only said it I like the Iliad more because I reread the Odyssey, but not the Iliad. I did so to prepare for Ulysses, not because I like it more.>is just proof you've only heard of these other Classical greats. Unless you're literally 18 or somethingAre you projecting something here?
Pizarnik, Trakl, Kafka, Perec, Ballard, Eliot, Bernhard, McCarthy
>>25180267>heart of darkness is not a novelyou probably hate philology, fag
>>25185655It's a novella.
Either regularly or now and again count>Granta>DIAGRAM>New Yorker>Ploughshares>Paris Review>Heavy Traffic
>>25181367Wasn't the one who was recommending it before but I think I first heard about it here too lol. Really, really good. His sophomore novel was a letdown though>Nobber by Fagan, Brat by SmithNever read either, but I've heard of the second. Thanks for the recs. Gabriel Smith's associated with the NY Tyrant scene, right? I might be thinking of someone else. Didn't know he was a /lit/tard lmfao
>>25182296Yeah, I think the NY Tyrant guy was the one who originally pushed him to work on Brat, then when Gian(?) died Penguin took him on or something like that. And I believe he said it was a story that he originally published in the Stinging Fly that became Brat (which as a process was something that I found illuminating, and got me to finally make something out of some old ideas I'd been doing little with).>Didn't know he was a /lit/tard lmfaoHe was actually posting about Brat here before it came out, posting the work-in-progress cover. I dunno if I was in the first thread, and I started out pretty skeptical from the shill angle, but he left a good impression and it got me to read Brat. Plus the version I read was the copy he uploaded to LG, based on what he said here, so that was cool. Later there was a trip pretending to be him, but the first few threads were seemingly genuine.Anyway, hoping to see more from Gabriel Smith, but I haven't seen any short works of his published since then besides his occasional Twitter posts babbling about AI and another novel.
>>25179463THANK YOU FOIDS AND FAGS
>>25183399Huh, interesting. Didn't know he got his start in The Stinging Fly. I'll have to find his story in there somewhere, hopefully it's online>shills book here, uploads it to libgen himself, book is actually goodlmfao this is great. This just shot way up in my reading list order. Second-gen Tao Lin type of deal
>>25179463Thx Foids And Fags
>Genesis was a snore fest of lineages that I didn't bother to remember(This begot that guy, that guy begot him, him begot he, no one in-between has any relevance to the plot so you could've just skipped them and said that he was a descendant of this guy)>It still had enough edge/grit/tension to keep me reading through it>Start Exodus, know that there were alot of adaptations and homages to it so maybe this one is better>The entire first act is just a cycle of Pharoah refusing to let 'em go, then a plague comes, then he let's them go before saying 'SIKE!'>The rest of the book is a tent building guideYeah, I think I understand why even the fans don't even read ts
>>25184208That's not contradictory at all. God creates humans last, then the next chapter explains the creation of humans. The two chapters have a different focus: First is to explain the creation of the universe and world, second is to explain humans.
>>25178804Idk what you're talking about, Genesis was extremely interesting and sets the foundation for millenia of religious traditions. You kind of have a point with Exodus though lol
>>25184551The ‘contradiction’ that people see into it is that in the first account from Genesis 1:27 God makes man and woman seemingly simultaneously and without any issue and it is that; whereas in the later account in Genesis 2, God makes Adam from ground and Adam is deemed not perfect by god because he doesn’t have a mate so in Genesis 2:18- 2:20, God shows him all the animals to name and seemingly to chose a mate from but he can’t find one so God makes woman from his rib.
>>25178845And said to her: How long wilt thou, be drunk? digest a little the wine, of which thou hast taken too much. Anna answering, said: Not so, my lord: for I am an exceeding unhappy woman, and have drunk neither wine nor any strong drink, but I have poured out my soul before the Lord.
>>25185624Hey doth thou really think Adam "slept" before Eve existed, moreover before God putteth him into a medically-induced coma, & extracteth the rib, from which He developed Eve? If there be no woman in the garden, wherefore doth the sun truly set?
Why is this so underrated?
>>25184798Because every work in the public domain has 500 different editions created by “independent publishers” who all compete to make the cheapest, laziest, shittiest printing of a free work imaginable.Presumably, this is one such example
>>25185480Xenophon is more known for his mediocre dialogues where he has Socrates argue the intricacies of land ownership and etiquette of the gentry. Pretty much the dialogues he wrote relegate him as “lesser Plato knockoff” in most People’s eyes.
>>25184495Apparently a F-15E was shot down over Persia so I guess we're getting Anabasis but instead of Ten Thousand it's going to be just Two.
It's a pretty good read, don't know if I'll spring for The Landmark Xenophon’s Anabasis but it is tempting. https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/1170
>>25184495Is that a fucking samurai?
>WE WUZ HAVIN SEX AND SHIT
>>25185050thanks for this post bro, made me remember a bit of the italian soul I was once so fascinated with
>>25183610much of the novel's reputation lies in being a dissident work from the eastern bloc rather than its strength as literature. it's actually remarkable how little is known to most about actual eastern bloc sanctioned literature, of which all countries had a substantial output for large reading publics. decades of soviet best sellers that you'd never even knew existed if you weren't a phd candidate
>reading women outside of Eliot or DickinsonISHYGDDT
>>25185586Referring to>>25185050
>>25185579>much of the novel's reputation lies in being a dissident work from the eastern bloc rather than its strength as literature.this was also my impression, I felt that the book betrayed Kundera's third-world kind anxiety to be accepted by the Western club ("we are actually like you guys!"). I also assumed that a big part of the books enduring popularity is that it allowed Western liberals to autofellate about the superiority of their culture
Where are /lit/ people in real life? How do I get a book club of people as autistic as me and the people on /lit/? I don't mean faggots who read Cormac McFaggot or retards who vaguely like Socrates. I mean the schizo who learned Greek to read Proclus in the original while working at a taco restaurant and not getting laid for 14 years. I only want severely autistic friends.I will never, ever use Discord for any reason. I will never talk to anyone who uses Twitter for any reason. I want /lit/ friends in real life. I can't take it anymore. All the "smart" people I know are STEM PhDs who watch retarded documentaries about quantum physics and then get high and spitball wacky ideas in their “free time”. It's NOT ENOUGH. Reality itself seems thin and alien. I joined a Plato reading group and it was just 120 IQ midwit normies who wanted to sprinkle a dash of Plato on their otherwise normal lives. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I don't want to talk about basic bitch podcast Stoicism once every few months with a laser biochemist who hates talking about his own work and doesn't give a shit about science or anything but ordering junk on amazon and exercising. I don't want to talk to WOMEN about Jane Austen because I read Jane Austen just to have something real to talk about and I was excited they also read Jane Austen, only to find out that they are "1917"-watching mental children who read Jane Austen the same way they watch "Severance." I don't want to read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason so I can talk to some positivist faggot who thinks it’s about empirical cognition, just to find out his entire reading is based on reddit posts. I don't want to talk to “””atheists””” who parrot Hitchens and haven’t read a word of Augustine, because they think the RETARDED EVANGELICALISM they were raised in is the summit of theism. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOI-DISANT PHILOSOPHERS WHOSE KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING THEY BUILD THEIR GAY IDENTITY ON COMES FROM SUMMARIES AND DUMBASS FUCKING BLOGS AND REDDIT!!!I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! I HATE THIS PLACE! I NEED TO BREAK FREE! I WANT TO TALK TO A FAT SOCIALLY ABNORMAL GUY WHO LEARNED SANSKRIT BECAUSE A THREAD ON 4CHAN TOLD HIM IT WAS COOL!! I WANT TO MEET THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO READ THE ENTIRE ST. JOHN'S BOOK LIST OR BLOOM'S CANON WHILE LIVING WITH THEIR MOM!!! NO MORE QUIRKY PEOPLE, NO MORE INTERNET-BRAINED NORMIES AND NORMIFIED INTERNET TEACHING GAY MILLENIALS, I WANT REAL ACTUAL SCHIZOS AND I WANT THEM FUCKING NOW!!!! WHERE DID ALL THE REAL HUMANS GO?!?!?!? WHERE'S THE GUY TRYING TO WIN A FIELD'S MEDAL TO THE TOTAL DETRIMENT OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE WHILE PHONING IN A MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE BECAUSE HIS BROWN DAD WANTS HIM TO "GET A REAL JOB?" I KNEW HIM ONCE!!! HE WAS MORE INTERESTING THAN THESE BLOG-READING, PODCAST-LISTENING, TWITTER- AND DISCORD-USING FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!
>>25184203Fuck you dude I graduated college with honors. I have been offered promotions multiple times at my blue collar job and turned them down, didn’t even apply. I also intentionally sought a no-skill job because I am so disgusted with the likes of you. I’d rather be poor than engage with normie society. I know you think it’s cope (you’d really give up ENDLESS AMAZON PACKAGES??) but it is completely true. I hate you and everything you believe in and I hope you die in a fucking fire.
>>25184055People like that are probably more common than you might think, they're just very reclusive and you'd rarely ever encounter them outside of the internet.
>>25184055I feel like a loser doing it, but check out meetup __dot__ com and look for book club. You join the group on the website and then show up to the meeting.I'm near DC and I just found a history of philosophy book club (last 3 authors are Vico, Montesquieu, & Pascal), a classic literature club (last 3 readings are To The Lighthouse, Emily Dickinson poems, and Stoner (lol))... there's also a history book club and a lit fic meetup in a local suburb. There's probably something near you provided you live close to a big metro area.
>>25184055Iol, I like your rage and passion. Finding a good friend is hard, I feel very alone too, even on /lit/, I think the only way I could find an actual friend is make a great thing, a good work, that is somewhat popular but also reveals a lot of my values, so that people can feel what I am, how intelligent I am etc. and contact me if they feel like it, alas I'm too lazy and retarded to do that, but not retarded enough to like the common man
>>25184055my feeling has always been that /lit/ is full of male academics who chafe under archliberal orthodoxy wherein airing even a vaguely contrary opinion is professional and personal suicide. we're basically university samizdat for the neoliberal empire
No, its not that I don't understand, or I get bored, or I'm not cultured enough. Quite the opposite. Dostoevsky is fake-deep slop for midwits. I cannot comprehend how an actually intelligent individual could like his works. It seems to me that its more normies circlejerking to seem cultured.
>>25178764No. I'm sure that if I read it again I could appreciate it more. As a teen I was barely even thinking of the book as a book.I reiterate that I cannot really judge his quality as a writer then admit in my post that the book made me angry (not an assesement of quality) because I felt preached to, was somehow convinced every righteous prostitute in fiction was supposed to be Mary Magdalene, and that you cannot prove points through fiction. None of which are good reasons to decry a work. And all of which I have changed my mind on.
>>25177776>No, its not that I don't understand, or I get bored, or I'm not cultured enough.You just don't have the personality type necessary to connect to and absorb his information which is human and emotion focused. If you're (like me) more thing and possibly focused then you'll get asleep within 10 minutes of reading him
>>25185106Which one of picrelated are you? I've always gotten intj or intp and I love dostoevsky
>>25177801Yep, Dostokino.
>>25177801Quite literally ghastly rigmarole.
>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.>Why read philosophy?Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.>Why study philosophy formally?Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.Previous thread >>25146787
>>25172565Vulgar vitalistic Nietzscheans distort Nietzsche a lot. Nietzsche isn't some radical hedonist-egoist who wants you to be Gigachad. Essentially he is one of the original philosophers of "Eigentumlichkeit" (roughly "ownliness," from "eigen," meaning "what is one's own," "what truly belongs to one"), often translated authenticity (from autos, self, same root as "author"). So crudely: be the author of yourself and your own actions. Nietzsche is only opposed to one thing, really: living life at second-hand. Not in some vague sense of "bro, be authentic!" but in the sense that what you primally ARE, in so far as you can ever know anything about yourself, is YOU. His philosophy arguably boils down to: "Make damn sure what you're doing is what you would wish to have done, so hard that you would be overjoyed to find out that you're going to do it an infinite number of times in infinite cycles of the same life" (the eternal recurrence doctrine). What he doesn't like about Christianity, which for him is a symbol of a whole way of second-hand being and not just historical Christianity, is that it tends to make people suppress this life and their own authentic self-manifestation in it in favor of a future life of which they have no knowledge. The one thing we can know about, namely our this-worldly life and our selves insofar as our selves are progressively manifesting (either "inertially" by merely reifying and ramifying the second-hand thoughts of others, or "authentically"), is sacrificed on the altar of a perfect life in which our this-worldly self will be replaced with a blessedly immobile new self that is utterly unlike us.
>>25184937(2)He has many passages where you can kind of read between the lines and see that he admires the strength of saints, ascetics, and other self-negaters and self-transcenders. For example in the famous early section of Zarathustra: >I love him who loves his virtue: for virtue is the will to down-going, and an arrow of longing.>I love him who reserves no share of spirit for himself, but wants to be wholly the spirit of his virtue: thus he walks as spirit over the bridge.>I love him who makes his virtue his inclination and destiny: thus, for the sake of his virtue, he is willing to live on, or live no more.>I love him who desires not too many virtues. One virtue is more of a virtue than two, because it is more of a knot for one's destiny to cling to.>I love him whose soul is lavish, who wants no thanks and does not give back: for he always gives, and desires not to keep for himself.>I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favor, and who then asks: "Am I a cheat?" -- for he wants to perish.>I love him who scatters golden words in advance of his deeds, and always does more than he promises: for he seeks his own down-going.>I love him who justifies the future ones, and redeems the past ones: for he is willing to perish through the present ones.>I love him who chastens his God, because he loves his God: for he must perish through the wrath of his God.>I love him whose soul is deep even in the wounding, and may perish through a small matter: thus he goes willingly over the bridge.>I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgets himself, and all things are in him: thus all things become his down-going.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25184938(3/3)All this goes back to his early quasi-romantic Wagnerian phase and his real desire: to create a new classical-tier culture in modern Germany. He thought Wagner could do it, and never quite recovered from the trauma of coming to think Wagner was a puffed-up bourgeois mediocrity too, someone who wanted to PLAY at creation but still fit himself into second-hand systems. So Nietzsche pivoted to something like: "I'm only talking to anyone with ears to hear: don't be second-hand, whether it's Christian second-hand, German second-hand, intellectual second-hand, philosopher second-hand. Whatever you do, do it because it's something you would joyously affirm as the only thing you could have done in that moment and something you would choose again and again in infinite future repetitions of the same life." There's a scene in Ibsen's Peer Gynt where the protagonist thinks he's dying and meeting the devil, but it's actually this guy called the Button Moulder. The Button Moulder melts down souls like metal buttons in a big pot, dissolving them into the whole molten stew, and casts new buttons out of the latter. Peer thinks it's a punishment for being evil and says "But I wasn't even that bad! A few sins, sure, but ..." and the Button Moulder replies something like "That's precisely the problem - you weren't even evil enough to be interesting. You were just so-so. You lived generically so you will go back into the generic soup of human material to be re-made into another being." There are esoteric doctrines of "soul-making" about this too. Nietzsche is not far off from this. Heidegger adapts Nietzsche (among others) to phenomenology when he describes "das Man," "the One" (in the sense of "One eats breakfast in the morning" when used as a justification for why YOU are eating breakfast in the morning), sometimes translated as "the They" or "the They-self" (in the English sense of "Why are they doing that?" "That's what they do"). Again, second-handness. Heidegger thinks second-handness is necessarily the background of all thought and action: you have to have a lot of things you take for granted that you acquired second-hand, like your language. But you can choose whether to allow yourself to "fall" or "lapse" into living your whole life as das Man, as "one who does the things he does because they're what one does," or whether you live "authentically," taking what is second-hand and choosing or discarding it, actively renewing and reaffirming it if it's still valid, rejecting it or modifying it if not.
>>25184937>>25184938>>25184941thanks! I ordered beyond good and evil. Ill keep this in mind when I read it.
>>25184941The idea of "breakfast food" is retarded. I get the idea, you're not going to have time to prepare a sunday roast before work, but it's gone FAR beyond the point of practicality.
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>>25185399you have to stop focusing on unimportant things
>>25185411I would think you were a cunt too. If anything you felt entitled.
>>25185399I don't see the difference between the two. All dogshit. If you need a self-help book, you have deeper problems that aren't going to be fixed with a book.
>>25185411Why didn’t you just say thanks, retard? It was the least you could do for someone leaving a door open for you. Women are stupid and often evil, but they’re still human.
>>25185475Fuck them.
The Divine Comedy blew my mind
>>25179594Neither is God!
>>25179826>get to hang out with 99% of the most interesting people in human history, from the ancient philosophers to the greatest writersLeave the greats out of this. They would not want to "hang out" with you anon...
>>25179547> believing in something a bronze-age charlatan made up to keep people in linethe blackest blackpill is that most people need this or they wouldn't be able to function. jewlon muskrat is right in wanting to escape to mars.
>>25179606I don't care, the New Testament is extremely boring, a completely unecessary sequel.
Beatrice blew my cock. What now Dante?
>read pre-ww1 book >realize these characters are basically aliens and nobody is like that anymore
>>25185470No, I'm still White.
>>25185470If you read enough of them you will start to think like them, then the world will seem alien.It's why you sometimes encounter 18th century guys in public.
>>25185476Emily Youcis isn't white, she's a polack
>>25185470The Kali Yuga in action.
