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What are some good books on Satan? Particularly Medieval Latin and Orthodox conceptions, but others welcome.
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>>24947556
>I See Satan Fall like Lightning
>Summa Thealogica
Satan doesn't really have much to analyze because Satan is fundamentally contradiction that pretends to be transcendent mystery via lies and murder. He is neither interesting nor innovative but merely a murderer that sows division. To focus on him is to seek to become confused and thus conquered. Best to just ask Jesus to explain him.

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>age
>location
>current read
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>25
>Canada
>Far from the Madding Crowd
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>>24931414
>25
>cold canada
>2666
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what's with all the seething oldies in this thread? jealous of youthful vitality?
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U.S
Moby Dick
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32, Brazil, the Exhalation collection by Ted Chiang

Is this kino?

I have to pick between it and shadow ticket at my bookstore.
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>>24944790
>kino
Considering your vernacular I say go for this one. Capeshit does seem like your speed
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>>24944836
Faggot.
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>>24944790
no, it's shit
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>>24946437
In what way?
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>>24946656
There's a chapter that purposes to imitate Finnegans Wake. Of course, the chapter resembles Joyce's masterpiece in none of its beauty or greatness. And this is because Alan Moore's goal wasn't beauty or greatness, it was imitation.

Continuing to read Goethe's Italian Journey, I've just finished up the section where he's in Venice. It's amazing how enchanted he is with the place. Having been to Venice myself, I suppose I can agree with him.

I do think it's funny that it's 1786 and he's complaining about the garbage in the streets and how there's disgusting sewage that floods the walkways of the city at high tide. 240 years later nothing has changed.

He also remarks on how Venice has diminished, that its power from its days of glory is weaker, and the whole Republic has begun to decay. I suppose this was less than 50 years before Napoleon swept in and just extinguished the Republic with one fell swoop.

He sees a lot of plays while he's here. He enjoys the ones that depict everyday Venetians, and apparently, so do the Venetians themselves.

He sees the famous horses at St. Mark's Basilica. I'm surprised he doesn't remark that they're from Constantinople; maybe that wasn't well-known in his time.
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I enjoyed Paul Morand's and Joseph Brodsky's books on Venice
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>>24945093
god you sound like an insufferable pedantic faggott
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Tell us what he says about italian women
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>>24945093
Nice. Brings me back to my time with the book.

>>24947133
You suck
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>>24947411
holy fuck. how incredible

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>read a book
>it's good
>read it again
>it's even gooder
name even one time this has happened
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>>24943875
Reverend Insanity
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>>24946447
This.
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My diary desu
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>>24943875
VERE ARE ZE BOOKS, LEBOVSKI??!?!!?!
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>be french canadian hick
>have incredible passion for auto racing and mechanics
>have no money, have to steal tools, have to live in an RV with your family
>somehow work your way from racing snowmobiles to racing single seaters and get noticed for beating a former F1 champion
>get the most prestigious seat in auto racing
>almost become world champion but come up just short
>stay loyal to the most romantic team in auto racing during their worst era and put up some of the most legendary drives of all time in subpar equipment
>be the only everyman in a sport full of rich dicks
>finally get a car that can win you the championship
>get betrayed by your team
>die in a horrible accident

The book writes itself. I cry every time.

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it's such a universal book. it applies to literally everything.
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Einsteinians hate Kant. Bergerians hate Einstein
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>>24945491
Bro haven't read world as will
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>>24945586
>logically-consistent ethics
Doesn't matter that it's logically sound; all logic must be built on axioms which you gain from your experience of reality. If you first impression of Life is that "muh all suffering bad", you can have logically-consistent ethics and find shit conclusions. You find good axioms through a scientific process, you come up with one, test it against all situations in life, if you find strong contradictions with your intuitions or find unexplained behavior your axiom is probably unrefined.

Ethical truths are truths that must be seen, felt, not proven.

To me life must be lived to be happy, when people make moral statement like "drugs bad" they say it's bad if you want to achieve happiness, atleast it's how people get an intuition for it, even if they don't understand it themselves. When people say "murder is bad" it's a bit a double meaning, to me it's both "killing and stealing won't help you find happiness", and aswell "Murder is bad because I want to live, so don't do it to me", I find that reasons for these statements that involve "suffering" or whatever version of the "harmony of society" (be it from religious or humanist origin) to never be based on anything more than "suffering bad", "society good on its own", "progress good on its own", "god is good on its own".

The only difference then between me and those who "reason" is that I have chosen the good thing, me, and will become happy, and the others will remain miserable dedicating themselves to something other, I find it all so very dumb.

All the heavy logic and rhetoric of philosophy is boring and mostly obfuscation, it's always "I've analyzed thoroughly ideas and these are my 'objective' conclusions" instead of the true and better path "Here's what I believe in and stand for, see that I am right because through all experiences of life my view suffers no contradiction". There's no logical explanation to arrive at truths such as "Reality is real", "I want to live", so I think every ethical work whose aim is to "deduce" retarded.
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>>24945818
Indeed.
I'm still reading philosophy to feel complete, to make sure I haven't missed anything, but as of now I discover no new ideas. I do keep encountering novel and beautiful ways to *express* those ideas, I still remain moved by how some great minds manage to connect or express in the most succinct and elegant ways the core ideas, that keeps me going.
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>>24947101
already did

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bought it in a charity shop for 50p. what should i expect?
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>>24946776
I hate women so much it's unreal.
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>>24946789
If you do yourself the disservice of seeing the discussion surrounding this book on places like reddit you'll mostly find women saying that the mc isn't punished hard enough and talking about theories that she actually did way more evil stuff which we don't see because she's an unreliable narrator.

The thriller aspect certainly outweighs any social commentary or themes by a large margin and the average reader just reads it as a story about a lady doing bad shit and trying to avoid consequences.
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>>24944977
Exceptionally hard nipples. Sharp, almost.
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Idk
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June did nothing wrong and I was rooting for her the entire story.

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>>24940675
Good Soldier Svejk
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>>24940675
eye of the chickenhawk
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Lolita
House of Leaves
Infinite Jest
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>>24945986
Evil response

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Best book to understand the AI phenomenon in depth, mathematical precision, and comprehensive detail?
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This will tell you how all those cool ai models work: https://keras.io/examples/

In order to actually understand it you should also read some introduction to fitting neural networks, which you will find somewhere on the internet on a university's homepage. A little bit of math beyond high school level helps but isn't strictly necessary.
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>>24947098
If a big tech investor went out of his way to understand how these AI models work, would he short or double down on his investments?
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>>24947109
Even if a billionaire ai investor reads the latest ai papers for breakfast he still can't reliably predict the future of ai. Maybe it will soon replace all human intellectual work or maybe the technology will get stuck and remain the fun but not very useful curiosity it is now. I personally think that ai will be cheap and most ai startups will fail because the technology is so open and everyone can setup their own cheap service.
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>>24945781
Probably be faster and better to watch YouTube videos on this.
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>>24947137
>Maybe it will soon replace all human intellectual work
Not LLMs, surely. My question was about them specifically. Are the big companies doing anything to advance AI outside of LLMs?

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One of the best philosophy book I've read in a while, but the way it has been received and it's talked about among the public (including the /lit/ one) testifies to the absolute lack of reading comprehension of the current average person. This is what happens when you destroy canonical reading in universities for centuries: that people will approach a reasonable and rather polite philosophical text such as Fanged Noumena and perceive it as if it were some sort of theoretical eldritch abomination. Had you properly studied the Critique of Pure Reason, Being and Time and some Nietzsche, this would be entirely intelligble to you, I assure you. And again, it would not sound at all "apocalyptic" or "weird", but rather polite and reasonable, in the sense in which a conversation is reasonable and polite. The problem is that for about forty years we seem to have forgotten how to properly converse with philosophers - that is, in a challenging, creative, deep way, connecting seemingly unrelated concepts - while Land did not.
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>>24947111
>>24947115
>>24947257
Land pseuds need to get OFF my board. Back to >>>/pol/ and >>>/x/. You have no place here.
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>>24947192
Okay, brownoid
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>>24947261
reminder that Land has never, and I mean NEVER been debunked
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>>24947261
so why did i love his writing on Trakl if i hate /pol/ and pity /x/? maybe you should try reading him yourself.
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>>24947123
>>24947261
sybau

Sometimes ancient ancestors show up in my dreams and share their wisdom with me, pointing out if I should or should not be doing a certain thing. Some other times my sleeping consciousness passes by their realm and they greet me when they sense me there, then I return to the realm of the living. Books about this?
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>>24942606
Feels like Jung or Eliade should have something for you.
Maybe look up Native American authors who have written about spiritualism and dreams. They love that shit but I don’t know how much is actually written down by them.
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>>24942841
It's not spooky, I consider it very pleasant.
>>24944250
Maybe, but I have also learned a lot of things on this board.
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You should probably read your prescription
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>>24945125
You do that
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>>24944250
>>24945103
I once dreamt that a relative of mine who died many years ago was watching me browse a match thread for some premier league game on /sp/ and was disgusted by what was in the thread and by me reading it. I woke from the dream with a strong sense of shame.

I haven't been on /sp/ since then.

This was fire.
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>>24945670
I hate Warhammer, but you sound like an insecure overweight non white retard.
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I wasn't much impressed with the first book so I never bothered with the other two. It might be that I wasn't expecting (and wasn't in the mood for) a detective story
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>>24945668
Picrel is the better series about the inquisition tbdesu
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currently reading it, it's honestly solid. the first one was decent. the second one i haven't finished yet, but it seems to be better.
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IIRC the second was better than the first, but the third kind of spedrun eisenhorn's arc too quickly. I preferred the ravenor spinoff series

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I'm interested in a reading group focused on art books. Most you can get through your library if you can't afford them, or as PDF's from Anna'a Archive.

To start with I'd like to go with Umberto Eco's On Beauty, and then On Ugliness, but I open to alternative suggestions for our starting book.

The reading for the week will be posted Sunday if there are enough takers

If you want, although it's not necessary for participation, there will be linked to threads and so forth on the Criterion Club server under the visual-arts channel

https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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>>24946545
Nah. I read Gardner's Art Through the Ages a decade ago and now I'm reading Janson's History of Art (the second edition in Norwegian for language practice) at my own pace.
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From On Beauty
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I would join probably, although I have never read any Eco, because I already think him to be a turbo midwit.

I also want to throw in Roger Scruton as a suggestion
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>>24946864
Both Scruton and Eco are midwits and both have an intricate understanding of art and aesthetics
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The entire docuseries is on youtube
https://youtu.be/J3ne7Udaetg?si=3Pup49Z5T9sCSU45

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>he's literally me
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>>24945605
>People forget that Mary was the daughter of one of the only serious female philosophers in history
>female philosopher
Not important enough to remember, lol.
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>>24944825
Cool and t his just supports what I said above:
>He's literally any human. For we can imagine that just like Frankenstein has abandoned his Monster after he created it and realized what he has done, so too God has abandoned humanity.
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>>24945924
Any human just wants a human friend or mate?
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>>24946166
Not wants, but needs. And that's what the main conflict is about.
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>>24946869
>t. has only saw movies and has never read it

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>"They dance so languorously, the women of Syria. I knew then in Jerusalem a Jewess who, in a hovel, by the light of a small smoky lamp, on a bad carpet, danced raising her arms to clash her cymbals. Her back arched, her head thrown back and as if dragged down by her heavy auburn hair, her eyes drowned in voluptuousness, ardent and languishing, supple, she'd have made Cleopatra herself pale with envy. I loved her barbaric dances, her slightly husky and yet so sweet singing, the smell of her incense, the semi-sleeping state she seemed to live in. I followed her everywhere. I mixed in with the vile crowd of soldiers, boatmen and publicans she was surrounded with. One day she disappeared and I never saw her again. I looked for a long time for her in doubtful alleyways and taverns. She was harder for me to do without than Greek wine. A few months after I had lost track of her, I learned, quite by chance, that she had joined a small group of men and women who were followers of a young Galilean miracle worker. He was called Jesus, came from Nazareth, and was crucified, for what crime I don't know. Do you remember that man, Pontius?"
>Pontius Pilate frowned, bringing his hand to his forehead like someone who is trying to remember. Then, after a few moments of silence, he murmured:
>"Jesus. Jesus. From Nazareth? No. I can't bring him to mind."
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>>24943625
>They dance so languorously, the women of Syria. I knew then in Jerusalem a Jewess who, in a hovel, by the light of a small smoky lamp, on a bad carpet, danced raising her arms to clash her cymbals. Her back arched, her head thrown back and as if dragged down by her heavy auburn hair, her eyes drowned in voluptuousness, ardent and languishing, supple, she'd have made Cleopatra herself pale with envy. I loved her barbaric dances, her slightly husky and yet so sweet singing, the smell of her incense, the semi-sleeping state she seemed to live in.
Ew.
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>>24943625
>The Procurator of Judea"
Might have to pick this up making it easy sharing for anons

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/58967
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>>24944449
Actually it was originally called the Province of Judea. It was renamed the Province of Syria-Palaestina following the Romans putting down the Bar Kokhba revolt and sacking Jerusalem.
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>>24945494
cool
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>>24945494
This. The Romans literally just falsely attributed Judaea to the Philistines to make the Jews mad in revenge for their constant uprisings.


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