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Trump appears to side with Musk, tech allies in debate over foreign workers roiling his supporters

https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk-91ab17e141cc9764fb18b8bc862c84dc

You heard the man, fall in line republitards. (Side note for you idiot republicans, click the link above in order to view the article)
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>>1371664
Rightoids hate this place cause they can't spam troonjaks to derail a discussion they don't like. They still try with text though.
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>>1371509
>Bringing in the best is fine. Replacing actual citizens with foreign ones because it's cheaper and easier to exploit the latter is not.

Sure, if we're talking about the sub-1% of the immigrant population who are nuclear rocket engineers and such but other than that, we don't need more people. This is true for the U.S. and for the planet in general; the more people there are, the less valuable each of us is.
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>>1371516
>The "tradewar" with China during his first term lead to our farmers getting fucked, with an estimated 92-120% what was earned from the tariffs going to bailing them out.

Why is this a bad thing? Better the money goes to American farmers than the Chinese.
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>>1371509
>Objectively false. Even leaving aside the role they play in stuff like the agricultural district, the idea that there are skilled foreigners who we should be trying to attract to the US is absolutely true. The problem is that Musk is clearly bullshitting to cover up the fact he can pay immigrant/visa workers less and treat them worse.
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>Bringing in the best is fine.
exceptionally skilled workers aren't H-1Bs, they are O-1s
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>>1371272
I'm retired, OP. Someone else already replaced me; it's his problem now.

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Jimmy Carter, 39th president and Nobel Peace Prize winner, dies at 100, his son says
The tenacious Southerner was turned out of office by disillusioned voters after a single term. But he had a brilliant post-presidential career as a champion of health, peace and democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/12/29/jimmy-carter-president-dead/

Jimmy Carter, a no-frills and steel-willed Southern governor who was elected president in 1976, was rejected by disillusioned voters after a single term and went on to an extraordinary post-presidential life that included winning the Nobel Peace Prize, died Sunday at his home in Plains, Georgia, according to his son James E. Carter III, known as Chip. He was 100 and the oldest living U.S. president of all time.

His son confirmed the death but did not provide an immediate cause. In a statement in February 2023, the Carter Center said the former president, after a series of hospital stays, would stop further medical treatment and spend his remaining time at home under hospice care. He had been treated in recent years for an aggressive form of melanoma skin cancer, with tumors that spread to his liver and brain.
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>>1371356
Here to pay my respects, RIP an absolute legend. o7
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>>1371384
Ted Kennedy lost. Get over it.
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>>1371390
Not him but wiki is pretty shit and also Jewish, yes. That just goes without saying and it's difficult to take anyone who uses it seriously
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>>1371648
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/
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>>1371356
>>1371358
>>1371359
>>1371360
>>1371372
LMAO, such a bunch of clueless morons.

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https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk-accused-of-censoring-right-wing-x-accounts-who-disagree-with-him-on-immigration-13280740
Elon Musk is facing censorship accusations after prominent right-wing accounts claimed they lost access to premium features on X when they criticised his views on immigration.

On Friday night, Musk called some anti-immigration Republicans "contemptible fools", adding they were "hateful, unrepentant racists" who would "absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed".

At least 14 conservative accounts who criticised Musk's pro-legal immigration views said X revoked their blue tick, a verification badge given to premium account holders, according to Sky News' US partner NBC News.

That removed their ability to monetise their accounts and led to some saying they were worried about their ability to keep posting on the platform.

When Musk bought the site in 2022, he said he had a policy of "freedom of speech" but not "freedom of reach", meaning negative posts wouldn't be banned but would be "max deboosted", making them hard to find.

He said this policy would apply to individual tweets and not entire accounts.

Musk has since called himself a free-expression advocate, even as he called for jailing some of his critics.


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>>1371547
the mutual assured destruction of america has commence. May Elon do his part in shattering the minds of these fragile livestock, he should start banning leftists too
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>>1371564
So no more free speech I see.
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>>1371165
>Remember when we warned you
Imagine trying to make yourself sound like the voice of reason when you were just screeching hysterically because he took your heavily censored echo chamber away from you.
Yes, Musk made it clear from the start that he played loose with his own rules, everyone knew this. We were just glad that the platform was more free than it was previously.
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>>1371564
>start
lmao
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>>1371723
>you were just screeching hysterically
I just stopped using the website and used other ones. Maybe this scenario you're imagining only exists in your head?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/pregnant-woman-stabbed-14-times-pizza-delivery-driver/story?id=117123714
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>>1371369
I would say most of the world tips.
I am from Europe, travelled many counties here, tipping is either not forced in any way or not expected, people still do tip various sums from their own will. So far nobody shouted me, demanded more or stabbed me for my tips and they are not 15% .
I can only speak from my experience of course, what i've seen, done, what i talked about with others..
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>>1371375
EU doesn't force tipping, thats the difference you tip because you want to but its not expected.
US/Canada its basically expected that you tip 15% barring being literally assaulted by the waiter/waitress or finding fecal matter in your food. Its a toxic practice that i wish would stop but unfortunately people just look like stingy assholes if you tell people to stop tipping.
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>>1371375
Was just discussing this the other day with someone. I pay about 1-2 euros for an espresso in Italy, and about $5 USD here for one, plus $1-2 tip.
In the EU what is considered a livable wage should get you a small studio flat in an older building, food for yourself, maybe a moped, basic cell phone, various stuff like that, eating out occasionally for modest meals, etc.
In the US what is considered a livable wage is supposed to get you at least a 1 bedroom apartment, a large American car, iPhone, food for yourself and your family, and some other odds and ends.

Wildly different expectations of what "livable" is between Europe and the US.
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>>1371222
Waste of digits

Good service gets a tip, shit service does not. Why should you get paid extra for doing the barest of minimums?
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>>1371478
american and canadian culture. basically people have been brainwashed into thinking its common courtesy to pay extra under the delusion that the close to minimum wage worker will work harder if there's money on the line.

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Billionaire Trump surrogate Elon Musk endorsed a post on Thursday which suggested Americans were too “retarded” to be hired for skilled jobs.

After the South Africa-born CEO of X, SpaceX, and Tesla found himself embroiled in an argument over H-1B visas and the importation of foreign labor over American workers, a pro-Musk account wrote:
"So basically the right split into two factions, tech right and right right, and the tech right is like “hey we need h-1b visa people to do the jobs,” and the right right was like “no you need to hire americans,” and the tech right is like “but you guys are retarded,” and the right right is like “well you don’t train us,” and the tech right is like “you can’t outtrain being retarded,” and while all this was going on we learned some people *really* don’t like Indians."

“That pretty much sums it up,” replied Musk, mere hours after defending one of his engineers who posted a series of racist, anti-White rants. “This was eye-opening.”

On Thursday, Musks’s DOGE co-head Vivek Ramaswamy also received backlash after he suggested companies were not hiring Americans because they were raised in a culture of “mediocrity.”

President-elect Donald Trump announced last month that Musk and Ramaswamy would lead the newly-created Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) – an announcement praised by many of Trump’s allies and supporters.

In the wake of remarks made by both Musk and Ramaswamy this week, however, many Trump supporters have begun to express concern over their involvement in the second Trump administration.
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>>1371343
What are you even talking about weirdo?
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>>1371348
>It's kinda like being extorted, except you willingly participate.
The word you're looking for is cuck
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lol
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>>1371235
>MAGA is about faith. MAGA is about cleaning up this country. MAGA is about 1 leader to unite 1 nation in 1 purpose in fucking over the libturds
>The orange god of MAGA agrees with Elongated Muskrat wanting millions of Indians with H1B visas in US
>So many MAGAtards regretting their voting for their orange god with hair of clay
>MAGA is about cleaning up this country
That aged well.
>MAGA is about faith
'Faith' sounds just like Fail. In Soviet Muttland, orange god fucks over you. Thanks for the schadenfreude, rightards. Quite the pyrrhic victory for you subhumans. The only brainwashed are you, orange cultards.
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This dead board doesn’t disappoint with all the retarded hot takes and shitposts.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/27/us-news/ny-prison-guards-beat-handcuffed-inmate-robert-brooks-video/

Disturbing body cam footage shows NY prison guards brutally beating handcuffed inmate, leading to his death

Brutal body camera footage shows a handcuffed inmate being beaten unconscious by prison guards before he’s stripped down to his underwear — a fatal attack that’s now under investigation by New York’s top prosecutor.

The sickening recordings were made public by Attorney General Letitia James Friday showing three correction officers repeatedly punching, kicking and stomping on Robert Brooks in an examination room on Dec. 9 at upstate prison Marcy Correctional Facility.

Brooks, 43, who was serving time for assault, died of injuries the next day. It’s unclear what sparked the beatdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHbOuG9c6g8 XXX SIGN IN

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died

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>>1371268
you sound like a privilaged person who doesn't live under the threat of being mugged or killed by these people. Maybe you should be mugged or shot then you'd change ur tune
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>>1371145
>>1371227
>>1371252
This happened in NY, a democrat hellhole. This is all calculated and planned by the democrat party to sabotage Trump.
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>>1371295
nyc and californian middle-class cunts are the same bleeding heart losers who do a 180 the minute they realize oh wait we might get assaulted too? But i'm supporting the criminals they should be grateful and assault other people instead.
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>>1371295
>This is all calculated and planned by the democrat party to sabotage Trump.
You're really gonna need to be approaching the stage with moar evidence that that, else risk pushing the perception that you're in the same group of folk that shout at the clouds for following them.

It might help if you tried to do the math instead of using docile media posts as a data source.
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>>1371128
>nypost
Fake news. Next!

https://apnews.com/article/homelessness-population-count-2024-hud-migrants-2e0e2b4503b754612a1d0b3b73abf75f?taid=676edc62db443200010c35da

The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of the country, federal officials said Friday.

The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally required tallies taken across the country in January found that more than 770,000 people were counted as homeless — a number that misses some people and does not include those staying with friends or family because they do not have a place of their own.

That increase comes on top of a 12% increase in 2023, which HUD blamed on soaring rents and the end of pandemic assistance. The 2023 increase also was driven by people experiencing homelessness for the first time. The numbers overall represent 23 of every 10,000 people in the U.S., with Black people being overrepresented among the homeless population.

“No American should face homelessness, and the Biden-Harris Administration is committed to ensuring every family has access to the affordable, safe, and quality housing they deserve,” HUD Agency Head Adrianne Todman said in a statement, adding that the focus should remain on “evidence-based efforts to prevent and end homelessness.”
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>>1371477
They should just get a job. Back in the old days, being homeless was an executable offense. That is the law of God working its way through society.
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>>1371479
It's because the price of housing is too damned high. NIMBYs, boomers, and private equity firms have driven the price of housing and rent through the roof. It's to the point where you have Chinese backed companies sweeping in and buying vast amounts of properties to drive up land costs. Most homeless actually do have jobs, it's just those jobs don't pay anywhere near enough. In most cities, even professionals are feeling the squeeze and are a sneeze away from ruin.
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>>1371477
No. It's to ship them off to blue states. Pleases his base and makes dems look incompetent.
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>>1371479
>They should just get a job.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. If it was, there'd be a *lot* less jobless.

>That is the law of God
I musta missed the one where moses came down with the tablets that proclaimed: Thou shalt have housing lest enact my wrath eneacted by third party idignation. Mayhaps you'd care to point this out?
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>>1371277
They shoudl just let healthcare be a free market. Abolish obamacare and medicare. Turn it over to the market forces. Remove the onerous regulations and oversights and that would drive down costs and drive up quality. What tards don't get is that insurance is entirely about risk management, regardless of what insurance it is. You outsource a big risk (surgery etc) to smaller payments based on risk levels. Being against profit for insurance is insane lefty bullshit. Being for a public option is mental illness. If people weren’t making profits why tf would thru work at providing anyone a service? Just because a service has high priorities towards life and limb doesn’t mean it’s excused from basic laws of economics or the increase in efficiency from privatizations.

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Feds release photos showing VP Biden meeting son Hunter’s China biz partners — days before he leaves office. The same business partners he said he had never met before, because he claimed to have nothing to do with his son's business.
Hunter has received, from his father, the single most extensive pardon of any individual in United States history, shielding him from all crimes, known and unknown "For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted by Special Counsel David C. Weiss".
Hunter worked directly with Xi.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/27/us-news/feds-finally-release-photos-showing-then-vp-biden-meeting-son-hunters-china-biz-partners-days-before-he-leaves-office/
WASHINGTON — The National Archives has finally released photos showing then-Vice President Biden meeting with two of first son Hunter Biden’s Chinese government-linked business partners — again proving that the president lied about not interacting with his family’s foreign patrons.

The cache of photos, released long after their potential political salience and days before Biden retires on Jan. 20, also show Chinese President Xi Jinping grinning as then-Vice President Biden introduced his son during the same December 2013 trip to Beijing.

The Xi-Hunter Biden encounter, which had not previously garnered much attention, appears to have been at a meal Hunter described in an email to his former associate Devon Archer as “pretty amazing” because his dad and China’s powerful authoritarian leader “were supposed to spend 2hrs together [but it] stretched to 7hrs. I think they are in love.”

Xi was two months into his ambitious “Belt and Road” foreign-influence and investment — and a Chinese state-backed company aligned with that vision, BHR Partners, was in the process being launched by Hunter.
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>>1371190
Luckily, hunter has already been pardoned for all his crimes, both known and unknown
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>>1371029
>Hunter described in an email to his former associate Devon Archer as “pretty amazing” because his dad and China’s powerful authoritarian leader “were supposed to spend 2hrs together [but it] stretched to 7hrs. I think they are in love.”
Kek
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>>1371029
Why are Democrats like this?
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>>1371498
You only think it's shitty because it proves Joe Biden lied about his connections with his son's business partners
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>>1371037
>>1371042
>>1371070
>>1371074
>>1371075

10% for the big guy, democrats are thieves.

Caimen is 21 now, but the first thing visitors see in the trailer he shares with his dad is a coffee-table-sized resin model of characters from the Dragonball Z anime show. Dozens of smaller models fill a living room display case. Still more line the hallway. Sibrina ordered the figures and they would assemble them together. Some came all the way from Japan and cost thousands of dollars.

“We decided to kind of just enjoy it as we went, instead of trying to have a bunch for retirement or our older age,” Jerry said. Given what happened, “I’m kind of glad we did.”

One of the display cases now holds Sibrina’s urn.

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-helene-plastics-factory-erwin-tennessee-80c456d05d0da27458f7e6f9388fec5e
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>>1371114
good thread
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>>1371117
Smart family. These thingies will become collectors items and when that big boy is a 60 yr old virgin, he can sell them & buy a house & move out of the trailer & get himself a wife. It will be kinda depressing though, seeing mom's ashes beside the collectibles.
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>>1371114
Bro they had a shared hobby they all enjoyed. She worked because she wanted her kids to be happy because she didn't have a lot growing up.

Fuck off OP.
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>>1371114
They need to make the urn stylized as the Mafuuba pot.
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>>1371114
>when we asked Caimen how many figurines he had, he estimated as many as over nine thousand

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/12/25/nba-ratings-decline/
ratings down 48% since 2012. maybe don't push communist propaganda
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>>1371133
>Who the fuck knows? Nobody watches it
I think that's the entire point
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>>1371109
got nothing to do with woke. Its just become the most pussified sport in existence by not letting anyone actually play defense becuase the exspensive niggers might get boo boos. The way these faggots flop down after getting slightly nudged is just pathetic, like a child who is playing pretend dbz or some shit. I cant take anyone who considers themselves an nba fan seriously.
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>>1371109
Its because the sports had all the fun optimized out of it seriously every match is the basically the fucking same and no one takes any risks anymore.
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>>1371109
watching eugenic genetic freaks is one time event not a league.
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>>1371115
>Also isn't WNBA doing the greatest it ever has?

Yes and they’re still losing $40+ million this year.

Multiple LASD deputies taken off job as feds investigate trans man’s beating, alleged cover-up

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/multiple-lasd-deputies-taken-off-job-as-feds-investigate-trans-mans-beating-alleged-coverup/

Days after a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy agreed to plead guilty to beating a transgender man for flipping him off, at least eight colleagues have been relieved of duty amid the investigation into an alleged cover-up, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Former Deputy Joseph Benza III of Corona was headed to a domestic violence call when he saw the gesture, abandoned the call and, instead, followed the victim — now identified by the Times as 23-year-old teacher Emmett Brock — to a 7-Eleven parking lot in Whittier.

Surveillance video shows Benza throwing Brock to the ground without provocation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2vHbXI2p4k BANG
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>Extending your middle finger is considered free speech and is protected by the First Amendment.
This is why it's obvious to fire those guys. If you're gonna be a cop, you can't lose your shit and forget what you're doing because some unrelated person flipped you off. If you're going to abandon your mission, at the very least do it for a reason that doesn't involve retaliating against a constitutionally protected action.
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>>1370827
>If you're going to abandon your mission, at the very least do it for a reason
That's what I think is the real issue here. He was supposed to be responding to something serious and quit it because of hurted feels.

Sure, shouldn't be beating on someone for flippin' bird - but that doesn't limit to 'police' - you flip me the bird and I flatten you I'm "wrong". There's argument to the tranny doesn't have much opportunity to fight back making it an abuse police power but far the most concerning is the officer randomly deciding his assigned task of restoring order is below him to the point where his feels rank higher.

The problem is he thought he could put on that unifrom and still be a person. He gave that up to gain 'responsibility'. I don't think this was made clear enough to him. Second that uniform goes on you stop being a person and start being police. Police have a lot more rewls on how they must and must not behave. For a reason. The only thing worse that putting on that uniform without acceptance of these facts is someone already wearing it doing nothing - or worse, actively compensating - when somone else fails to accept these facts. It's worse because then all the folk who put that uniform on for all the right reasons - and they do exist - get tarred with the brush. It's clearly not 'just one bad apple' as there's collusion behind the scenes.

Police turn up at a job, we don't see Jim, and Bob, we see the uniform. Again, something required to be accepted before puttin' the uniform on - but the critical point is what you've been shown that uniform means previously.

I'll take a wild stab at this tranny been shown unflattering things to associate with this uniform. This leads to the sort of mindset where a casual passing results in bird flipping. Now, this officer *should* have been 'above' this, and just continued to his task of restoring public order. But the fact he wasn't just reinforced every unflattering thing this uniform springs to mind.
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>>1370838
say, long winded anon, that was a lot to read, but I read it all, because I have even less of a life than you do. Now, as to putting on the uniform, and accepting the responsibilities that go with that. The responsibility is very simple. You become a VIOLENT GOON to uphold the COPOCRACY. You beat a homeless black guy for stealing a 5th of vodka, abd you go TISK TISK with your finger when an elite kills people by denying them health coverage.
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>>1370869
If it was that simple, they guy wouldn't be fired.
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>>1370806
>>1370807
>>1370808
You know that "trans-men" are biologically female right?

MAGA is tearing itself apart at the seams as they eat their own. Elon Muskrat launches SCATHING attack against RFK Jr. as the MAGA world begins to crumble from infighting.
Trump once again is proving he cares about nothing except his EGO.
Elon Muskrat fanboys will support this Elons public statements admitting he uses COCAINE but will implode if it's Hunter Biden using cocaine as they are led by MURDOCH.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-dramatically-puts-maga-split-with-rfk-jr-on-display-with-santa-post/
Elon Musk Dramatically Puts MAGA Split With RFK Jr. on Display

Elon Musk has picked another fight in Donald Trump’s inner circle with a Christmas challenge to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Musk posted a photo of himself on his platform X, formerly known as Twitter, dressed up as Santa Claus and posing in front of a lit-up tree with the caption: “Ozempic Santa.”

He followed up with a message that quickly went viral in MAGA world: “I use cocaine, like Cocaine Bear, but I also use Ozempic!”

“Technically, Mounjaro,” Musk added, “but that doesn’t have the same ring to it.”

He was referencing a once-weekly injection – approved for use last year by the Food and Drug Administration – that is widely used for weight loss. It makes the user feel fuller between meals and lowers the appetite. It is also used to treat type-2 diabetes.

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>>1370876
RFK really is the best. I don't know why anyone would hate himl. He's so intelligent and smart. I beg you to listen to RFK's podcasts if you no believe. He said that all the deaths and cripplings due to polio was because of malnutrition. The vaccine literally did nothing and actually hurt kids and was a huge waste. He is just saying he supports it right now because a lot of big pharma RINOs and DEMS would block his way if he said his true beliefs. When RFK gets in, there will be no more polio vax. There will be no more vax period. Vax should be banned. Vax will be banned. Every single chemical we put into our bodies so them can control us. The only thing that cures the disease is HERD IMMUNITY.
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>>1371119
They really do pay you to work hard, don't they
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>>1371209
No. I think the dems actually have worse infighting right now, they can just hide it better. Reps are just really loud and open with their fighting.
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>>1371243
Except that's fucking backwards. Dems (liberals and progressives) openly clash over policy and direction. Republicans tend to fall in line once an authority figure makes a call. Remember how much the GOP hated trump in 2015 until he started gaining in the primaries and eventually won, which silenced all dissent.
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>>1371245
Republicans fall in line when they are the opposition. When they are in power, they shit the bed (just look at the ousting of McCarthy). Democrats are the opposite, where they jockey and stab each other in the back when out of power, but fall in line in the hopes of getting something done when they do gain control. And before you say something about Lieberman, Manchin, or Sinema, they were all independents.

The Fifth Circuit on Monday overturned a lower court’s injunction against the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) which passed into law in late 2024. It is designed to combat illegal activity by forcing U.S. companies to provide federal authorities with names and addresses of individuals who run U.S. businesses in an effort to curtail tax evasion and other financial crimes.

Conveniently, 23 types of businesses are exempted from abiding by the CTA, including banks, credit unions, insurance companies, and any bussiness that employs more than 20 full-time employees in the United States, has an operating physical office in the U.S. and has reported more than $5 million in gross receipts or sales on its tax forms for the previous year.

https://activistpost.com/2024/12/millions-of-companies-must-register-w-massive-u-s-database-by-jan-1-due-to-last-minute-court-ruling.html

https://www.investopedia.com/corporate-transparency-act-8413903
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>it won't apply to rich people
>any business that employs more than 20 full-time employees in the United States, has an operating physical office in the U.S. and has reported more than $5 million in gross receipts or sales on its tax forms for the previous year.
So...shell companies aren't exempt? How would this not apply to rich people? Seems like it nukes shell company anonymity. That seems like the point of the law

Poor people don't own shell companies.
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>>1370965
https://www.investopedia.com/corporate-transparency-act-8413903#toc-the-corporate-transparency-act-cta-an-overview

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https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/credit-card-debt-hits-record-1point17-trillion-new-york-fed-finds.html
Just in time for the holidays
Heading into the holidays, many Americans were already saddled with record-breaking credit card debt. And yet, consumer spending is set to reach a fresh high this season.

The National Retail Federation reported last week that spending between Nov. 1 and Dec. 31 is “clearly on track” to reach a record, between $979.5 billion and $989 billion.

“Job and wage gains, modest inflation and a healthy balance sheet have led to solid holiday spending,” the NRF’s chief economist, Jack Kleinhenz, said in a statement.

But other reports show that many shoppers are increasingly leaning on credit cards to manage their holiday purchases.
To that point, 36% of consumers have taken on debt this season, a recent report by LendingTree found. And those who dipped into the red racked up an average of $1,181, up from $1,028 in 2023, according to the survey of more than 2,000 adults.

“No one should be surprised that so many Americans took on debt this holiday season. Prices are still really high and that means that lots of Americans simply didn’t have any choice,” said Matt Schulz, LendingTree’s chief credit analyst.

“Inflation is still a big deal in this country, and it’s having a huge impact on people’s finances, including their holiday spending,” he said.
Heading into the peak holiday shopping season, credit card balances were already 8.1% higher than a year ago, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s report on household debt.

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>>1371040
wrong link here is the correct one: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/27/credit-card-debt-set-to-hit-record-levels-as-consumer-holiday-spending-rises.html

The problem with credit cards

Of those with debt, 21% expect it’ll take five months or longer to pay it off, LendingTree also found. At that rate, sky-high interest charges will exact a heavy toll, according to Schulz.

“That means less money to put towards other big goals for the new year, such as growing an emergency fund or saving for college,” he said. “In more extreme cases, it may mean you’re less able to pay essential bills or keep food on the table. In either case, it’s a big deal.”
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>>1371040
Kind of pointless unless they can say how much of that 1.17T is unmanageable vs how much is just people using CC benefits or security features that debit/cash don't have. Debt alone doesn't paint the whole picture.
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>>1371100
>security features that debit/cash don't have
Cash. Sure. You move that, it's moved.
Debit? Prove to me the bank cannot - at their chosing - dip into another bank's accounts and reverse the flow of money. If they choose to is another matter.

>Debt alone doesn't paint the whole picture.
But it's most of it. If you could afford it you wouldn't need credit. You'd buy it. Most of debt acquisition is folk living outside of their means. As for 'unmanagable' - you overstepped once, you'll do it again. Unmanagable is just a matter of time and a few unfavourable variables to align.
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>>1371496
You should spend a little more time understanding how credit and debt work

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-desantis-join-thousands-mourn-three-florida-deputies-killed-roadside-crash

The three deputies were pulled over to the shoulder on their motorcycles, as one of them appeared to have an issue with his bike, Bradshaw said during a press conference after the crash. A woman driving her SUV down Southern Boulevard came upon a driver who was driving slower than her and veered toward the shoulder to pass but "overcompensated" and struck all three deputies, sending them "airborne," Bradshaw added.

"People have to take it seriously when you're driving a vehicle…that's 2,000 pounds of destruction if it's not handled properly," Bradshaw said, adding that the driver is cooperating in the investigation and "feels terrible" about what happened.

awwwww, hope she gets over it
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>>1370759
Its only gonna get worse when 8,000 pound electric SUVs start appearing more and more on the road. We need to do something about shit drivers. A drivers license shouldn't just cost $20, should be like $3,000.
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>>1370839
You would have to prove intent. No drugs involved, so reckless driving charge at . most. Of course, one could only do this 1 time, as it would look suspicious a 2nd time. So might as well line up as many cops in sight the 1st time.
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lol killed three pigs by passing on the right. she's probably fat too. fat people love SUVs because it is easier for a fat to climb into a car and slide out than to climb out of a normal car.
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A no-knock warrant would have prevented this.
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>>1371057
prevent? it should happen more often.


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