Welcome to the New School Revolution General, the thread dedicated to games derived from the OSR movement.>What is NSR?>NSR is a subcategory of the OSR, it mostly follows the same play style but experiments further with the mechanics and settings.>Broadly NSR games have a gm, a living world, are rules light, deadly and focus on emergent narrative, interaction and exploration.>What is this thread NOT for?Meta discussions or drama of the games and its creators aka shadowboxing with twitter, reddit and the OSRG (frens with osrbros)>stay on topic>gamesShadowdark, into the odd, mausritter, cairn, mörk borg (and its hacks), dungeon crawl classics, mothership, knave, troika!, whitehack, blackhack, old school essentials (we know this is just a retroclone), etc. >links, resources, more games!, etc:https://pastebin.com/0W8WmbCk (BROKEN we're working on it) Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97280802I've run BitD, and I agree with the pros/cons of the clock. I think for Mothership, it makes it too meta-gamey and doesn't suit the horror setting where you should never have complete information. But thinking about it in the way you've set out has helped. If the players can't control it/take decisions based on it, move it earlier so it acts as a shock rather than as a complication. They're unlikely to go to the reactor first as the power is still on. Thanks.>>97281127I think I'll write in that there's a transponder on Renato’s suit so the bridge can pick it up.
>>97281270This more about movies, but Hitchcock once said that you can either have surprise or suspense.>Surprise: Two men are talking in a bar. Their table blows up.>Suspense: Someone sets up a bomb. Two men sit down and start talking. You see the clock ticking and getting closer to blowing up. Then it blows up.It's kinda similar. If they have meta information you can use it to create suspense, but you'll lose impact. If you focus on impact you can't really build it up without killing it.
>>97281270>>97280802Wait does Blades make the MC clocks from pbta player facing? That's fucking dumb.
>>97282297that's actually genius and it can be picked apart endlessly from different angles why it's geniusbut the most basic tldr; idea>have a timer>players don't know about the timer>it doesn't go off in the endwell then it might have been non-existent at allwhat purpose did it serve?when you have a player facing timer it immediately creates suspense and tensionit does many other things to improve a game but this alone is enough to warrant player facing timers in your games
>>97283531Anon, having the players know there is a timer, advancing it and communicating that through narration and events thus letting the tensions and events build diagetically is gm101. If you have players who aren't fucking retarded and you can actually run a game, tension and suspense happens through actual play. If you need a visual aid to track sure why not. Don't put the information about what the phases of the clock do or how many there are on the board unless its something like 10 Candles.
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>>97284343Save image as PNG. It does what it says, saves the image as PNG. The only issue is that it doesent automatically detect where you saved your image last, so its not as convenient.
>>97284345You don't need meta-cyoas to break rules, you are free.
>>97284318>>97284340A CYOA that contains one (1) femboy and one (1) tomboy companion in the companion section (out of about 20 total)It's really not a focus.
>>97284362That's 1 femboy too many
>>97284361I prefer to use that one because it's more specific. It's a fuck you to all the miseryfag authors that want to make you suffer for a crumb of power.
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we need more tier lists
>>97283885In the short term? An intro about him awakening and his current living situation I guess, a general "guy comes back to his childhood city" deal, maybe try to reconnect. Getting rid of arranged marriage for childhood friend probably, it could leave it open to some other new build to be part of this new strange circle forming, and maybe getting a tamagotchi, still not sure on that one.In the longer run? Other than exploring mysterious events in general and collecting legends I was thinking of having him work with the government for a while, seeing how long it takes for them to go mad from his ramblings and use them as an excuse to snoop around the place. Slowly work out what Spawn really is and making it evolve, and then fusing with it. Act like a cryptic old man to the student council for fun, since he doesn't aggree with separating the world from the idea world but he will still help with keeping people safe if he can/is close enough since we are a long way from peaceful coexistence.He's very heavily geared for idea world stuff so I'm not sure what to do on the real world side other than wacky hijinks tied to his Awakened perk and how it makes reality not work right around him, floating around and walking on walls. Because of his nature it shouldn't be too hard to make him interact with others, he's moving around everywhere and looking into stuff he probably shouldn't, I'm just not sure about the specifics.Not sure how much this helps, but his methods are pretty strange, so maybe he could use the help of someone with more real world skills in something? Like tech stuff or more detailed magic knowledge. Tech would also synegize with his Galatea skill in the idea world but that's maybe taking it too far. I'll think about more stuff if you need details.
New here and curious.Are these like character builders instead of story maker games?
>>97284299What? You mean cyoas in general? It's a better question for the other thread but yes, the vast majority are essentially a character builder, then you are free to imagine the story in your head. That's how they are supposed to work, as a self-insert most of the time, but this thread specifically uses them a little differently. After making the character we start the process of telling the story collaboratively instead of completely by ourselves. There are some exceptions, like Peil's Life Chronicles that have a more stuctured and involved adventure part, but those are rarer and they don't work for what we do in here.
>>97284299>>97284334>It's a better question for the other threadJust to be clear, this is true but asking there would be met with a lot of shitposting too.
This is a second OSRG, seperate from the main osrg thread, where you CAN talk about 2e, retroclones, and any osr content you want.This is different than the regular osrg as due to rampant trolling from a handful of bad actors, discussion is impossible.>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Starter Dungeonshttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/86342023/#q86358321PREVIOUS THREAD>>97226728
>>97281625in no universe is 2e not old school, actual 50-something year old grognards that played holmes and molvay when they came out will call even 5e offshoots like shadowdark and olde sword regin OSR. in reality, you are a cavalcade of autismos
>>97283548"AD&D" 2e is a bowdlerised knockoff for the storygaming special education kids of Satanic Panic moms. It's the worst edition ever published under the D&D brand. It's all unplaytested splatbooks which are literal shit and setting books written for nogame morons to read rather than play. It's unusable for OSR play because it breaks too many of the core OSR mechanics. It's usable for storyfagging in principle, but you have no reasons to choose it over editions that are much better designed for that style, like 3e and 5e.If you think that pile of absolute garbage qualifies as OSR, it says everything about (You) and nothing about the OSR.
>>97283803It's kind of funny that you think that your bullshit is anything even remotely connected with reality.It's just AD&D but written in a clear and easy to understand fashion. All you've done is start with your conclusion ("Everyone must hate 2e") and then done the most pathetic mental gymnastics in hopes of presenting something you hope could be mistaken for an argument.
>>97283548>actual 50-something year old grognards that played holmes and molvay when they came out will call even 5e offshoots like shadowdark and olde sword regin OSRAll that proves is that being old yourself gives you no particular understanding of what the term "old-school" means in relation to D&D.>in no universe is 2e old schoolYou accidentally insterted an excess negative here, FTFY
>>97283803>If you think that pile of absolute garbage qualifies as OSRare you clinically retarded?OSR is not some badge of high quality it's just about preserving a certain style of play which 2e absolutely can be do if needed
The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!Tex Talks editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38cHV-lZCXIPrevious Thread: >>97267187================================>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFshttps://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400>Overview of the Major Factionshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houseshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clanshttps://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powersComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Pretty comfy how there's a rotation of minor faction fanboyism every so often. Someone inevitably chooses to self immolate then the next gen or two, there's a new faction trying to make a claim and then getting dogpiled.
>>97284146I prefer the idea that they just collapsed due to nearly every world in the Kluster being dependent on other worlds to sustain its population (Strana Mechty and York were the only exception, and the Adders nuked the latter), so with the damage the War of Reaving did to their infrastructure most of their worlds just collapsed and their population starved or was reduced to barbarism. I'd expect that if somebody did bother sending a fleet there to investigate, they'd just find a bunch of tribal barbarians screaming about blood purity while waging endless wars with each other using cER sticks and stone IICs.
>>97284146Should be worth noting that there was a good chunk of the RWA never accounted for with several abandoned outposts showing signs of an organized exodus.>>97284218>they'd just find a bunch of tribal barbarians screaming about blood purity while waging endless wars with each other using cER sticks and stone IICs.This seems like a more entertaining idea though.
>>97284146>>97284218>>97284244I prefer that the Fleet of Blake paid them a visit with the Erinyes and just meteored the entire Kluster.
>>97282178To add to the tex talk stuff, in MW4+Merc+Mektek2.1 online play when PvP was kicking back in the early 2000's...The black knight was the meta. It packed the firepower to double hit a center torso on a quick jump snipe.(poptart) to 2hit all mechs CT. Side torsos in that game took 2-3 hits depending if the mech it hit was thin side torso type.You didn't want to be huge because of points/ton difference in farming points while making kills to make them respawn(lowers their Damage per minute/DPM)In MWO it sucks though.
If you told me a few years ago that I'd be primarily using fucking Army Painter warpaints I would've called you a retard. Genuinely what a gargantuan upgrade from the old crap, can't recommend it enough
>>97280286>master craftsman with decades of full-time experience on a specific technique>hobby painter with a day job and competing commitments on nights and weekendsThis is a valid and reasonable comparison. You should be mixing your own pigments like Yamamoto-sensei here.
>>97277533>Mix colorsThat's perfectly fine. It's also perfectly fine to have a bunch of colors on hand so you rarely need to mix anything.Just don't mix contrast/speed paints. They don't go well together given the extreme variety of opacity in them. You kinda need to have a big ass stock of those things if you want a bunch of different shades.
>>97277683There's usually only around two or three primary colors for an army you need to use. The odds and ends can be varied. It's really not hard to remember AND you don't have to worry about getting mixing ratio right to generate your army colors if you get a new batch (that's only slightly harder to remember).
>>97277498You think you could advertise instead I'm getting tired of those footjob adds on mobile.
>>97281594They had good washes, good metallics, reasonably priced accessory stuff (flocking, green stuff, etc) but, yeah, their core paints were not good for mini paints. You could get good results, but it took more work than you should invest to get those results. I find it funny that it took them making speed paints for them to realize "Oh, people will buy our stuff if it doesn't suck dick!". To be fair, Speed paints being objectively better than contrast paints really came out of left field.
Anyone play it yet? I like the "rustic fantasy" setting. The core rules seem interesting, it has more mechanics and gameplay than most other narrative games. I enjoy that it doesn't have moves or whatever to confine you, you can actually play your character and do whatever you want. It's got enough knobs and options in terms of resolution I feel like it's actually a real game despite having that more story focus vs simulation focus. And I like that the DM has all the traditional power of the DM and there's not like "Fate Points" or something else that gives players control to change stuff.Thinking I might try a short game for my table, just a few lower powered sessions. It also has good tools for a solo stuff which is interesting.
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>>97284147Again, I do see what they're going for here, it's just not quite my jam. Especially since I can predict it might have far more book keeping than other games just from how many tags have to keep being swapped in and out, especially for things like items.
>>97284121>>97284127>>97284138>>97284147>>97284178Hmm, yeah, this seems needlessly abstract and complicated. I thought it'd just have a normal HP system.
The tag system does not seem good, because it's placing an insane burden on both the GM and the player to have good tags that can be character appropriate, useful and not just replacement for stats where you're always using them the same way.
I've spent the last year, studying, and designing a custom Arthurian set, originally intended to be based on Le Morte d'Arthur (like how P3k was based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms). However, as I continued to study, and look into different (and some obscure sources) this turned into a much more wider net. This set, which is no where near finished includes>Welsh Triads and The Magnibong>Pre-Vulgate Arthur traditions>Vulgate/Post Vulgate/Lancelot cycles>some English/Welsh fairy tales>and even a bit of the Victorian Arthurian revival (especially for art). I avoided the Italian and German romances entirely, and tried not to include weird outliners except when needed. Outside of art, nothing is sourced from the 20th century or onward. Also all art is public domain. I'm mainly posting here for feedback. Some will be art recommendations, flavor text (especially sourced) will be always welcomed.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
The Welsh legends are mostly contrasts to their Romance counterparts. Such as King Arthur >>97282821.I wanted them to resonate with each other, but do different things. In this case, both Arthur's are a tribal effect, and both work around legendaries. However, in the Mabinogion and other Welsh tales, Arthur's court isn't full of knights, but super powered freak. Thus, he gets a legends tribal effect instead.
>>97282933Bed'wyr is one of Arthur's three chief warriors. With only one hand, he is still a more than capable warrior, and he never misses his mark with his spear. He's actually described as being stronger than Cei, though he's considerably more humble.
>>97282976Here is admittedly a very archaic Welsh spelling for Gawain. Other than not being a knight, he is the character changed the least from Welsh to Romance. This is probably due to his popularity in the middle ages. He was Arthur's champion before the French decided to invent Lancelot, though evidence suggests Lancelot started as a crossover character. No definitive proof for this exists however
>>97282987Easily the most bastardized transformation. When Chreitien de Troyes wrote his proses in the 12th century, he turned Kay into a whiny administrator and yes man. This trend stuck, and his character was forever changed.Cei however, is a classic Europeon fire warrior, who in the tales is extremely volatile and inpatient. He has legitimate powers though.His skin is so hot that he can boil the water around him in a lake, and snow melts before it touches his skin. He can breathe fire, and he can grow in size. All these abilities reflect in his mechanics.
>>97284050Far from the bitter schemer or evil sorceress of modern tellings, Welsh Morgen was a healer, and one of 9 sorceresses who lived on Avalon. I tried to have both work around enchantments, but made them work differently. You could honestly run both in the same deck.
What are some fantasy and sci-fi movies you should watch to inspire your games and players?
>>97280944>doesnt recognize the difference between mature anime and moeshit
>>97280581check out the books. they're awesome
>>97279941Do Dark Dungeons or Mazes and Monsters count as D&D films?
What are the quintessential action movies to inspire an RPG campaign of GURPS Action?Yes I'm aware the book has a list of recommended books, I want to see what /tg/ has to say about it
Army of Darkness
What’s the consensus on solo wargaming? With Battletech Aces I’ve considered trying to run a campaign or convert the rules to classic somehow. I know Killteam has co-op, but I’ve never tried it and idk if they have campaign mechanics. Are these rulesets ass? I want to be able to use my minis on those weeks I can’t meet with my friends.
>>97282784>solo wargamingIt's top tier
>>97282908I wouldn’t have even been mad if it archived that way, but now you’re here and it’s been ruined anon. You gotta share your thoughts at least.
>>97282784Solo wargames are quite normal, though I mostly see them in historical themes.Not sure about the BT Aces system or Kill Team.
>>97282784Playing with toy soldiers has been around as long as toy soldiers, so yes it's very normal.I've found the main limitation is whether you're able and willing to play "fairly" - I for one always end up favouring one side or the other. And while I don't tend to fudge rolls or cheat, making better decisions for one side than the other makes for a pretty uneven game. Best thing I've found is to just lean into it straight away and play "your dudes" against enemy forces with the latter having more dudes but acting semi-randomly.Also the solo RPG thread gets some solo wargame discussion.
>>97282784Not a thing I do but I see solo rules in a lot of board games and /awg/ skirmish games. Got a lot bugger during covid. Nordic Weasel has a bunch that seem well liked in the >5 x from y series.
how did you explain having literal blue human women in your scifi setting?
Classic sci fi shit.
>>97259986The skin colours of humans in my setting are green, blue and red
>>97259986To complete the red/blue theme alongside the Puazi.
>>97276580I feel as though it would be less retarded, if he made the Waifu Slave Race before trying to conquer Earth. Maybe take our resources to subsidize waifu slave race research or something.
The DMG refers to eight different types of players. Was it correct?
>>97280550No. In fact I'm not even saying it's too broad or abstract or whatnot, it's just inaccurate and even harmful to new GMs. As the chad GM in >>97281176 screencap points out, you shouldn't even fucking consider "Watchers" and "Slayers" human and prep for them if you value your time and sanity.
>>97280550>>97281176These categories don't describe players. They describe tools GMs can try to use to engage players, by treating those players in a particular manner.Have you used these? Were they successful for you? If yes to both, then they're accurate insofar as they're helpful to you. If you haven't, then you're just trying to pigeon hole everyone but yourself in a way that's inaccurate and pointless because people are drastically more complex than that. They don't describe people at all. They describe how you can try to interact with other people, if you need some help with such a basic function.
>>97281210Of course. Im not sure what good such a theory would even be at the end of the day.
>>97282075For the most part, people construct them as a way of saying>my preferred mode of roleplay is better than your preferred mode!
>>97282204Hear, hear. Saying that is ultimately what this entire post was about, too: >>97281176
This thread is dedicated to all kinds of solo games, systems, tools, and campaigns.Fail Forward Edition.>Last Thread: >>97062042Resources:https://rentry.org/srpgghttps://infinityweavers.link/re-up/solo-rp-toolkitMore threads:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/subject/%2Fsrpgg%2F/orhttps://desuarchive.org/tg/search/subject/%2Fsrpgg%2F/type/op/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Happy new year /srpgg/!I lost all my pdfs and similar to a hdd hiccup (or moved them and can't find them) so I'm rebuilding my stock from archives.This is the year I'm going to actually use them.
>>97277252Happy new year !
>>97274734How is Dragonbane solo? I've been eyeing the starter set and I'm tempted.
>>97280039Really good. The solo adventure can start feeling a bit limited, but it still does set up a good point crawl framework, and it is easy to just expnd it to wider adventuring on your own.
>>97283138Would you say it's worth picking up then?
Grogmas in the hive streets editionPrevious Thread:>>97019770Check out here for useful links and a catalogue of relevant miniatures retailers:https://pastebin.com/nnNqqFLnThe Rogue Trader magazine article compilation:https://gofile.io/d/yNK9bq
>>97283044>codexs
>>97281597I take it then you also reject any artworks in the oldhammer style that are created using a computer & digital drawing software, any models made with a printer whether new made in oldhammer style or scanned from originals, any kind of digital formats of rules or scans of books even if no longer easily available, all modern ranges of wargaming paint, and all other "dilutions" of the pure and righteous hobby of collecting nothing except original lead cast minis of the era painted with thin watery early acrylics or diltued craft paints and playing games using original printed paper publications? Because of course you're not just a hypocritical Luddite arbitrarily drawing a line where on one side what matters is whether the product of the technique matches the ethos and so is good and permitted while on the other you decree the products are poisoned by the means used to produce them despite the same logic applying in bother cases, right?
>>97282192>Why the fuck do you need AI to do something
>>97282738Anon you are actually so mad you can't follow a reply chain.
>>97283125Feet, skull faces and shadows seem quite off. It would be good to see the model in action. There's been some low key persistent trolling with the ai posts and getting mad at people for having books.
Redneck EditionDiscuss and post elves. Elf lore, gameplay, and art are all appreciated.QOTT: Which artists do you think drew the best elves?
>>97281280>>97280222LMAO literally gay elves
>>97282336I just can't help but laughing know that helmet is for the hears
>>97281280>bestest and greatest of the Eldar.Not a great feat, since Eldar simply doesn't work as army/faction
>>97283448What sort of retarded tertiary thinks that? Eldar have been part of 40k since it's inception and on the tabletop they have always kicked ass.
