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Two-faced Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

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>>97171957
>Just imagine piloting a pile of barely synergetic jank somehow working together by making the right decisions at the right time and outplaying your opponent without relying on mechanics and cards designed to take away the players agency.
Commander was literally never this.
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premodern brothers, we are now a real format.
How is premodern on mtgo?
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>>97169040
Kino goon goon!!!
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>>97171957
https://web.archive.org/web/20110803222457/http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/7933_Ask_the_Judge_08202004Feature_Friday.html

This is the literal introduction of the format and one of the earliest known instances of a commander decklist being published. And guess what? It's already what Commander is today.

It has no focused strategy. It's a mush of ramp and ramp and ramp and cards that are good in free-for-all multiplayer. It plays only a bit of efficient single-target removal, but there's several sweepers so it doesn't have to give a fuck about what the opponent is doing, just ramp and ramp and ramp for big creatures and occasionally reset the board. It has Tooth and Nail for an instant win combo. Its commander is barely an afterthought.

Commander is shit. It was always shit, and it will always be shit.
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>>97172099
flourishing, vibrant, stunning!!

Black Dragon Edition

>2024 PHB Scan
https://files.catbox.moe/g8oo9h.pdf

>Cropped and rotated, but more artifacty
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>2024 DMG
https://files.catbox.moe/fd04pq.pdf

>2024 Monster Manual
https://files.catbox.moe/atd38s.pdf (D&D beyond version)
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/1en5qwum.pdf (scan)


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>>97171339
>>97171388
I'm more questioning how well constructed or exploitable his stat bock is rules as written or I've missed some aspect of his capabilities. He and Zariel are both in Descent Into Avernus at CR 24 and 26 and the difference in their power and the ability of a well-equipped party to threaten them seems massive.
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I get why Tasha's summoning spells are the way that they are but they suck for the most part and I'm just gonna waste the DMs time until I can find the stat block for the creature I'm gonna summon

>>97140444
>TQ

Occultist, specifically because it's a homebrew class I'm working on

>>97141917
They added some new subclasses to 5.5e so it'll probably be some time before the 5e subclasses make a return
With the way summoning spells work now I can see Druid Shepherd and Conjuration Wizard getting an overhaul to balance out the lack of fun
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>>97171843
most intelligent thing you've said, anon
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How to deal with a sorc who constantly uses subtle spell + suggestion to bulldoze through conversations? Just throw more npcs into the mix, since he can't do suggestion on all of them at the same time? But then what happens when he gets mass suggestion?

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NOOOOOO YOU DON'T HAVE THE FEAT YOU CAN'T MOVE YOUR EYEPATCH NOOOOOOOOO
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>>97171224
it's genuinely one of my favourite flicks. just good swashbuckling fun. i've never read the book, but the film is worth a watch if you're fine with old/black-and-white movies.

also, Olivia de Havilland only died a few years ago. the love interest in a 1935 Errol Flynn film, and she was around for 9/11, smartphones, and the Covid-19 pandemic. dafuq.
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>>97169925
It works. Try it. Close one eye while walking around in the light and as soon as you step into a dark room switch. You’ll have ready night vision in the formerly closed eye and the other will get there in a few seconds.

Sort of useful in very niche situations. But ultimately you’d just take the patch off because it’s pointless going from dark to light.

Also it can seriously fuck with your balance switching back and forth. I gave myself some temporary vertigo doing that one Halloween and just about threw up after wearing it for 2 hours then taking it off in an emergency.
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>>97169973
Correct.

Every ability you “give” the player implies numerous actions forbidden. 3.5 did well enough by handing out so many feats that you could pretty much turn a fighter or rogue into any competent non-magic skillset in just a few levels while still managing the balance. But it’s hours of flipping through pages that could have been an easy “yeah, that makes sense, do that.”
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>>97170501
>no fighting aboard the ship, save it for shore but must be with weapons
Good rule, still let's them get their shit out of they genuinely feel offended but putting a barrier of entry on top forces them to not be stupid with it
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>>97171075
Like most rules, it only takes one time for it to become a problem requiring addressing

Do you play tabletop games with your kids?
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>>97171949
Kill whitey.
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>itt: kissless virgins inventing reasons why they will die that way. while other kissless virgins are telling tall tales about their trad families
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>>97172110
This
Nobody here actually has the social ability to talk to a girl, let alone have a kid with one
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>>97169793
It's surprisingly difficult to teach two toddlers DnD. But my wife and I have played more ttrpgs and tcgs than I can count.

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Where's the goddamn pdfs, Lebowski?
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>>97158088
I think he's talking about how you can't upload pdfs anymore
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>>97150719
why do nu-warhammer trannies hate old warhammer players on 4chan so much
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>>97160136
Generational angst
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Bump
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>>97167182
Belping

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I finally finished my PhD. Do any of you still want me to finish the story I started half a decade ago?
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>>97171633
Yeah, go on then. Best post the first part though, as 90% of 4/chan posters were in primary school five years ago, the other 10% can't remember where they left their glasses this morning, let alone a story they might have read half a decade ago. Take your time though, I have to find my glasses.
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>>97171633
Traditional games?
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>>97171633
yes
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>>97171633
No.
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>>97171633
Same here anon. Finishing one I mean but it took me 4 years. Where you doing yours part time or was it just >100k words?

What "magical realm" and edgy stuff do you like including in your RPGs?
For me is forceful genderbending spells that can't be undone.
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>>97163068
explain or fake
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>>97166370
It's real. It's a game of reading your opponent, with a bit of resource management, playing over ~3 sessions. The torturer has a hidden set of approaches rated from 1-6, and each round they use one on the victim who tries to resist by spending from their finite effort pool. They get some xp for managing to resist, but any effort spent is lost for the rest of the session, so overspending is like when they they flinch and you're like "but I haven't even started yet". On the other hand if you beat their effort it only increases that approach's effectiveness, permanently adding the difference to it or future sessions. You can instill a terror of needles that only gets worse every time you stick em.
It's rigged, of course. The victim can't win, but their goal is only to survive as long as possible. They can buy abilities with XP (see pic), but they can only prolong the ordeal. Torturer abilities get selected at the start of the game, as they're much more powerful and change the strategies up with stuff like combining approaches, denying xp, or duplicating approaches with maxxed-out effectiveness.

Why would I lie about something like that, for bagging rights? Lol
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Lamias.
Also I accidentally forced regulations on immortal/long living citizens in my DMs setting. Not because of wars or boomers not going away since they cant die, but because my character after the campaign got immortality from a wish reward and proceeded to creampie his waifu for centuries who was immortal too. It was fucking up lineage and succession laws especially when your great×4 grandfather had another child.
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>>97153880
>Breeding/eugenics/caste systems. Especially if there's a bioroid or bio-engineered servant caste that exists solely for free labor, companionship, sexual entertainment, snuff movies, and emergency food.
>Bodily fluids contain mana/energy, including sexual fluids. In fantasy settings, this means wizards commonly fuck their chimera, golems, summons, and other magical servants to sustain them. In sci-fi settings, there are nuclear-powered maid bots that, in a pinch, can substitute radioactive mutant cum for power cells.
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>>97167329
With or without snitties?

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Why is Age of Sigmar so universally despised? I thinkthose rat dudes look rad, wish we had them in 40k
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>>97162396
It insists upon itself
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>>97169283
Have you ever even played WHFB?
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>>97163436
>Ass of Smegma was the gem CA was REALLY after, but they were FORCED to make a 40k game first!
The funniest part is you actually believe this.
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>>97169283
>rules are for the most part a better system than WHFB
The rules are nothing alike you fake grog millennial faggot cůck.
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>>97163348
Not as retarded as the people making TOW 40k.

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The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!

Honor the Dragon! edition

Previous Thread: >>97150045

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>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFs
https://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400

>Overview of the Major Factions
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans
https://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers


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>>97171492
I always pictured something like this?
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>>97171184
Flat headed Chargers look strange
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>>97172025
I know isn't it great
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>>97171952
What was scorpion?
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>>97172025
People don't want to hear it, but geographical determinism means that subsaharan Africans will dominate slower than light space colonization.

It's already happening with Elon's re-usable ICMBs.

https://archive.org/details/b.-a.-s.-e.-d/mode/2up
I'm not sure if this is actually an RPG or a modern warfare handbook.I found this on the internet archive, and while I do not believe in the author's Templist religion (essentially syncretic Indo-European paganism) which is used as a framework for the game, many of the facts in it are useful. It reminds me a lot of F.A.T.A.L., since it has a very clear vision (an RPG which is just real life in a certain setting which may have some speculative elements), but it is more like Braunstein in design, and has very few mandatory dice rolls, with the implication that the game master finds the most realistic way to determine the result of an action.
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>>97169937
>its just lists of facts, which is cool I guess, but I see no point. No one can actually play this and keep the mental load to do anything remotely fun it in
From the introduction, I inferred that players aren't meant to know most of these facts, but based on their background or intelligence they can be given them. Based on both that inference as well as the fact that the game tells you to downplay the "right-wing undertones" of the game, I don't think the players are meant to have their own rulebooks. I like procedural simulationism, but B.A.S.E.D. hates it, and one of the easiest ways to get players to think outside of procedure is to not tell them what the procedures are.
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>>97163548
Outside of objective facts this is some absolute garbage, it's the combination of RAHOWA and FATAL holy shit.
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>>97169937
From what I understand, the game doesn't really have a system. The players tell the GM what their characters do, and the GM tells them what happens, based on the facts in the book, or based on whatever he feels would realistically happen.
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>>97171438
This is how an actual narrativist RPG should be: A book of objective guidelines of what does or doesn't occur in the setting along with some GM advice, rather than what narrativist games currently are, which are extremely simple versions of gamist games that give players reality warping/fiction-manipulating powers for reasons that do not make sense in-world.

Also, I was thinking about non-minecraft blockgames recently, and I realized that for me, a sufficiently simulationist fantasy RPG video game (a procedural one, not one like B.A.S.E.D.) would also necessarily satisfy my requirements for being balanced and having an interesting and interactive world, so at least from my perspective, once you go far enough into simulationism you get the benefits of the other 2 points of the GNS triangle.
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>>97171942
This is possible one of the most earnestly retarded posts I've seen on a long while, congratulations

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Isn't it more comfortable to use a small laptop/tablet where you can search rules if necessary?
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>>97154537
I don't wanna die because you put some out of depth bullshit in a hallway. Damn.
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>>97153717
>are you based enough to use books?
Why, yes. Yes, I am.

>Isn't it more comfortable to use a small laptop/tablet where you can search rules if necessary?
Electronic devices *can* supplement books. They'll never replace them.

>pic unrelated
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>>97171310
>>>The DM should know all the rules
>>But that's wrong.
>Well yeah
>That's my entire position
>Just saying that you are wrong
Anon, I...

Let me just restructure it a bit
>The DM should know all the rules
>But that's wrong.
>Well yeah. That's my entire position. Just saying that you are wrong

Are you actually, genuinely retarded, or you're ESL and double negatives are a thing in your native? Because you just said your own position is identical to mine, but I'm supposed to admit said position is wrong. As in: that you yourself are wrong.
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>>97171595
Here is my original post you disagreed with
>>97159751
You may benefit from reading it again and your reply
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>>97172126
Except I never replied to that post, you moron.
It's like you are genuinely too retarded to grasp what >>97168117 already singled out for you.
And then you demand from me to agree with your point... by denouncing it.

Really weird way to keep this useless thread afloat, I must admit, but it's one-sided effort anyway

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Why are TCGs like this?
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>>97130035
Garbage gives +1/+0 to any creature you control but costs 1 mana.
Racoon can do it for free so it's a 1 cost bear with upside.
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>>97130035
>Worried about muggers? You should buy a gun to defend yourself
>Worried about muggers? You should buy a nuke to defend yourself

Why are people telling me the nuke is bad advice?!!! Nukes are way stronger than guns
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>>97130035
autism is really the answer and quite frankly it is the wild card in whether it is responsible for something good or bad. Mostly bad, but sometimes good comes out of autism.
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>>97130035
Because literally any card that lets you do shit for free is bound to be busted in one way or another.
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>>97158811
this is stupid one card is obviously an engine piece and the other card is a payoff, both cards are good

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I have the task of setting up a game for my wife and daughter, as basically my first foray into DMing. I've been considering putting them into my work-in-progress homebrew setting, but I don't really feel confident I can run it kid friendly. So my next idea was to just steal the WoW classic human quest chain as my campaign setting because I know the setting quite well. The general beats being:

>Fight the kobolds for control of the mines
>Fight the gnolls who raid the southwest
>Find clues about the defias brotherhood supporting the gnolls
>Fight the defias brotherhood in the deadmines
>Uncover the noble who supports the defias from within stormwind
>The missing diplomat chain starts.
>Sent to Duskwood to investigate the defias there
>Optionally fight some undead and Morbent Fel
>Sent to Theramore, find the place where the missing diplomat was imprisoned but he apparently is no longer there. Find information about the orcs in Redridge having some role in it.
>Fight the orcs at Redridge, leading to entering the burning steppes and finding the quest hook to the Jailbreak line.
>Do the jailbreak line, discover the true identity of Katrana Prestor and throw her out of Stormwind
>Fight Onyxia in her home and possibly breadcrumb to Nefarian in Blackwing lair.


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>>97171865
Make the Defias a constant low level annoyance.
By the time players get to Van Cleef. They have been fighting extortionists, thieves and raiders from just after their first Kobolds and Wolves.
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>>97171865
what age are we talking about with the daughter here? And how general fantasy savy is she and her mother? You mentioned you wanted it to be kid friendly. At the end of the day you can say that the defias might have started with good intentions but went way too far. Maybe even throw them a remorseful Defias who wants to get out.

Something along the line of "Van Cleef promised us payment and a noble cause, yet we are little better than bandits, harassing farmers just as poor as we are. This is wrong. I didnt wanted any of this."

From there, you can ajust how simplistic and "child friendly", or mature and muddied you want to go.
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>>97171748
>first foray into DMing
>wife and daughter
>based on video games
>can’t make it kid friendly
>in 5e

Don’t DM
Don’t run a game for women and small children.
Don’t base games off of video games.
Don’t run conflict-based fantasy for a child too young to comprehend violence.
Don’t ever use 5e, especially if you’re a new DM and especially if your players are new.


Just Don’t.
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>>97171865
I say just reveal their backstory AFTER you kill them. The game does, after all.
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>>97171916
Post your characters sheets and/or GM notes from your games.
>implying

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How would you make them more enticing?
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>>97171417
lol
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>>97171397
>Baldur's Gate 3 is not vidya
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>>97171363
No one likes manlets
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>>97171363
>>>/vrpg/ is that way.
We literally have a board for fags like you, and yet you still come to /tg/.
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>>97171363
>How come no one plays little folk in BG3?
They have shit stats
>How would you make them more enticing?
Give them better stats

>Previous thread:
>>97105453

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,
Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

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>>97171823
I am glad it's popular enough to have its own threads so we don't need to discuss it here.
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>>97171468
£20 is about a box of any high quality minis, with multiple parts and options, that are half as many models but 100x the quality
What a fucking looney
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>>97171823
Tranny-coded and troon-loved. Avoid.
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>>97171823
I was interested in it until I realized it was another stillbirth based on concept art like the whole pic related thing. You can tell as well, as soon as you look at the setting you can see they've pic n mix'd straight from 40k. Nobody has anything to say about it mechanically or even the slightest mention of "having fun".
Wouldn't be surprised if its for money laundering
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I am going to build some granny grating armies over christmas. I am going out today to get some supplies. Any tips for what extra supplies to get?


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