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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>11959663

This thread is dedicated to the discussion of any classic games made by Blizzard Entertainment; those being every game released from their early days as Silicon & Synapse to the release of Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne (2003). Fans of Warcraft, StarCraft, Diablo and even older series like The Lost Vikings, Rock N' Roll Racing and Blackthorne are all welcome here.

For a short history of Blizzard and a list of all their games, check out this wiki:
>https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/List_of_Blizzard_Entertainment_games

- COMMUNITY PASTEBIN -
You can find custom content made by other /vr/ users, as well as download links, mods, guides and more by visiting our community pastebin:
>https://pastebin.com/nsWYpXG3

Relax, talk and play. Let's have a good thread.
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>>12023962
I remember having a similar issue years ago but I don't quite remember how I fixed it unfortunately. I would try with compatability settings and if that doesn't work look at the PC gaming wiki. Maybe somebody else here knows too.
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>>12023151
I remember that. IIRC he said his parents were pretty young and they were already having issues but the game was basicallg the last straw. Crazy to think two people can create a little child together and want to abandon that family unit one day, and I'm sure the game wasn't the main factor but just ended up being a further source of stress during the few times where they were supposed to be relaxing and not arguing over petty shit. I hope that guy is doing alright and has/finds a nice wife of his own to have kids with so he can end the cycle and have a happy life.
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>>12022521
i get what you mean but this is almost the opposite of the situation with TP because in that case the next gen version came out first and was shit compared to the last gen version
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>>12023962
resolution shouldn't be an issue, the game supports fullscreen just not widescreen. are you on win 11?
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>>12025427
Aye, Windows 11. No other retro games give me a similar issue

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If the shamblers and vores do not have eyes, who they know where the main character is? The main character can stand still AND stay 100 feet away from them but they still no matter that, the shamblers and the vores know his exact position. How is that posible?
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>>12024818
>esl+retarded+underage
The trifecta of shitposting
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>>12024818
>If the shamblers and vores do not have eyes, who they know where the main character is?
because the game feeds the player's coordinates into their pathfinding algorithm
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maybe by smell?
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>>12024818
I would explain it to you but it's beyond your comprehension mortal.
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>>12024818

Your answer is Event Horizon.

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The "tate" mechanic wasn't too bad until the final boss. There are just instances in which the boss decides to cast a spell to be invulnerable or deflect your melee attacks that outright negates your efforts in building up your tate gauge and you're waiting around for more enemies to respawn so you aren't doing a pixels worth of damage. Generally a good game, but I can see why people drop Shinobi at the final boss. Hell, the train station boss in level 3 with the ninja dogs are harder than anything else up till the final boss.
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>>12025090
I'd break enemies guards with a kick and then use the Sai spin attacks with down square iirc to build the the special meter throughout the level, but yeah doing that can be a bit of a pace breaker.
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>>12023293
you are forced into one way of playing. you have to use the charged up tate attacks to kill bosses because otherwise you would need to hit them like 300 times and because the game also forces you to play on a timer you cant even do that for a challenge. you can either kill the boss with 1 super tate attack, or a bunch of smaller ones. any uncharged attacks will be doing like 5% of the total damage to the boss.

if only the first chapter lets you play it straight that doesnt really mean anything because that is the tutorial chapter. its the easiest chapter and the one people will spend the least time playing. the game has a difficulty spike right away at chapter 2 or 3 and from then on each stage will take exponentially longer to beat for a new player than chapter 1. so its a dishonest argument to say that the game doesnt force you to kill all the bosses using tate combos because the first tutorial chapter doesnt do that.

i like the game for what it is but its still a 5/10 for me. the death timer plus mandatory tate combo playstyle strikes me as a newgame+ secondary character playstyle. not what i would have sold the game around.
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>>12018070
>you have a katana, it should never be doing 0.05% of a bosses life bar
Explain to us how you kill a tank or attack helicopter with a katana.
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>>12025336
Very carefully.
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>>12025336
idk maybe they shouldnt make you hit it with a sword? however- its also a videogame. hitting it 300 times to kill it isnt fun. hitting it 5 times or 1 time to kill it is just as lame. this is where game design comes in. but its a moot point. there are countless organic living bosses and the helicopter and the tank are the exceptions. so why do you argue about the exception? how many bosses in this game are just some guy? if nothing else i think it wuld have been fun to have the katanas base damage value change depending on what you fight. that would make the 300 hits to kill the helicopter or the tank funny at least.

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What are the best f/vr/ry games?
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>>12024082
And these ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVLzMBYh_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1Pw8auhrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GDvDX6y3g
I recall Goof Troop being one of the best Disney licensed games (with a furry cast. Aladdin is still my favorite of the bunch).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuWK1U3esOk
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https://glitchwave.com/games/genre/anthro/
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You have to decide. Sly 2 or 3? If you pick 1, Carmelarga will crush you.
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>>12025081
So I'm not allowed to pick the good one? Fuck off.
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>>12024496
Neat

OK I have given up on life so have decided to listen to every 8-bit chip-tune ever made, on every machine, be it console or computer.
how on earth could I achieve such a thing? considering the Commodore 64 alone has an estimated 50,000 chiptunes I expect the total figure to reach a million quite easily.

is this even possible? I can listen for 18 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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the best 8-bit chiptune I've heard so far, as a point of reference
https://youtu.be/Zh8SIAZfDKs?feature=shared
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>>12023689
>I can listen for 18 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Good news is since you're 12 you have most of your "life" ahead of you.
Bad news is downeys don't live as long as normal people.
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Yes, you can probably do it. Most of the games in this era had about 15 minutes of music at most, and most had far, far less than that.

By the way, don't forget the Sharp X1 and MSX!
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I remember listening to chiptunes on winamp
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>>12023841
Here's the best track on the C64, no need to listen to anything else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny743c32gPg

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How significant was the transition from Windows 98 to Windows XP for gaming? In what ways did it shape PC gaming, and do you have any personal experiences from upgrading that stand out?
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It was minor. The biggest QoL boost came when I got a Core 2 Duo and paired it with XP because suddenly I could play games *and* run other shit without a ton of compromises.
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>>12019959
parroting someone is maximum seethe, love to see it
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>>12016995
Depends how early on you jumped.

2000-2001 - you'd experience games getting day 1 patches to fix 2K/XP only crashes, and you'd bitch about XP having too much bloat compared to 2K.
2002-2003 - Microsoft had to extend Win98 support because it was still way too popular (ha ha, good luck Win10 getting the same treatment).
2003-2004 - you'd get fucked by viruses nonstop (welchia, sobig, etc), it was so bad you got a globe-spanning megavirus every week, especially in 2003 August. Then in 2004 you have to deal with lsass.exe forcing your machine to reboot in one minute.

If you moved to XP later on with SP2 and USB2 drivers built in, you got a huge increase in stability and speed with very little downsides unless you still used old DOS era games which simply didn't work any more. Any shorter and it still fucked up regularly like 98, just say on a weekly basis instead of a daily one.
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>>12019530
>98's RAM limitations were disgusting and if you had more 256MB RAM or more you basically needed to run XP or 2000.

I ran it with 384MB RAM, still have the machine, I think it was a 256 + 128 stick but I don't remember it exactly.

Jumping to XP in 2003 with 512MB RAM wasn't a big deal, but the hard drive was quieter/faster and the cpu was monstrously good, all the emulators that played at 20fps previously were now running at full 60fps (jumped from K6-2 to Athlon XP).
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XP was a piece of shit until SP2 came out.

If you used it before that, you'll probably remember this screen.

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This is bullshit
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>>12022556
That's the zelda 1 manual
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>>12022762
>>12022987
>learning to read at school instead of getting bored as a toddler and taking a storybook you have memorized and using it as a rosetta stone to teach yourself how to read the other books in your house without any input from adults

bleak. i can't imagine being that retarded.
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>>12024229
Cool story bro
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>>12022987
I was reading at a fourth grade level at six, did your parents not read to you?
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My dad did not pass away. This is his favorite game, though. Thoughts?
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>>12023184
>My dad did not pass away.
sorry to hear that
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>>12025289
https://tcrf.net/Jersey_Devil_(PlayStation)

There are no hostages to rescue and no tutorial loading screens in the PAL version, and the final bods of the PAL version is seemingly unfinished.
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Got this game for my 7th birthday I think. It was too hard for me, I forgot where it was exactly that I got stuck, but I lost interest after a while. I honestly can't imagine what someone who claims Jersey Devil is their favorite game would be like.
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>>12025383
As a 7-year old, it was my favourite game ever, but I never completed it.
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>>12025404
Basically same story with me, desu. I've been meaning to play it as an adult to see just what about it stopped me from finishing it (besides my disc needed to be rebuffed). It got pretty mediocre scores so I think it may have just been a shitty game.

Great opening video, though. FMV clips on the PS1 were always a delight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27tnx3Gvb0

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I remember loving this game. Killing camps with people. Playing a dwarf cleric and making friends in the capital. Going back is impossible.
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>>12022990
I don't know, even setting the viewport to the right aspect ratio it's still way off. I don't know how rendering worked back in DX8 times with fixed function pipelines, but clearly the original perspective transform was completely different from the later one.
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>>12024304
hhhnnnnngggg
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>>12024790
Yeah, it's really similar to Quake. Can almost guarantee you that whatever tool they used to make the zones for the first few expansions was heavily based on WorldCraft.
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what are some standout /vr/ songs you like a lot? post anything. hell i will even settle for sound effects if it gets you fuckers participating. I will post like 10 or 20 things later in one post.

back around 2010-2014 i seem to recall /v/ still had music threads up but that place is a shithole now and music threads get bumped off to quickly by coom posts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMbkZrUP-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=227kCDGW_P8
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Alright, I'm giving this thread another chance.

>>12015797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGxLWUBozYo
Full intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyUShtcn94
Also relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibhd88GjdCQ
Full intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njMK04xlSf4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgO7p3NG6vY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0ZPzwlP7rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5huZQRAY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC8nwF79USI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQAoCX7zbYM

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>>12015797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWSgsbWiX_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rAjOjTGtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0NlVypWHTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxR1tIuRitg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJsLDL8NQAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LDIPBWjtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5i5qfkcdJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8OirsKVbc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7OkHjF5SEo
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based thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPXmCoR-x2o

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>people say OoT/MM Link had the hardest life, even though TP Link's wife evaporated right before his eyes
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>>12024491
>they're best friends
bro
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>>12024395
Yeah but she already became ugly when that happened
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>>12024395
>strongest loving bond in the whole series (that counts as retro)
>gone, just like that
I'm not sure if princess Zelda and farm girl and Telma and the fishing girl are enough to console Link with sexual acts of sex having
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>>12024415
>LLTP
Link's Little Twilight Princess? Sure!
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>>12024489
I'm sure he went to the cursed forest and became a volcel skeleton chad like his grandpa

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Can we tackle this elephant in the room?
Without triggering any alerts, there are a total of about 20 guards in the game.
That’s not enough is it?
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>>12024910
Even in VR missions you spend more time shooting guys or targets
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>>12025229
It's stealth action game not just stealth
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>>12023531
How many are in the second game?
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The problem isn't the amount of guards. The camera and gameplay were not designed for a large amount of guards per room anyway.
The real problem with mgs is how little actual levels there are and the forced backtracking through them multiple times. The game would have benefitted from having its length cut by 1/3.
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>>12023583
WHY ARE YOU INSULTING MY FAVORITE GAME????

DELET THIS

It's a great game, but irony-poisoned zoomers aren't mature enough to handle it.
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>>12024621
emos were cringe growing up and they're still cringe now, go back to cutting yourself fat retard
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>>12024637
wait a minute, i just realized something. you're the same moron who just made that falseflag super metroid thread. man are you one sad fucker. you are the one shitting up this board, know that and be proud of it rather than shifting the blame over to your bogeyman.
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i bought it when it came out, got most of the endings and then decided i didnt need anymore so i broke the disc and threw it away. its the definition of a 5/10 game
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>not mature enough to handle an E10+ game
lol
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It's a great game, but irony-poisoned zoomers aren't mature enough to handle it.

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>he played through all of Ocarina of Time without realizing he could do a quick spin attack by rotating the control stick 360 degrees and attacking, rendering the hold-down-button spin attack useless
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>>12024134
>energy tennis
it's called dead man's volley.
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>>12024149
I could fill that bottle with my charged balls.
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>>12024024
fpbp
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>>12024152
That was made up by Phantom Hourglass. It has no thematic relevance to OoT or Lttp.
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>>12024110
I think you can keep things stunlocked if you can do spin attacks on command. It could be only in Wind Waker, though. Regardless, Biggoron's spin attack is still big business even without a charge.

>Enhanced Story - While remaining faithful to the original story, the narrative of DRAGON QUEST VII Reimagined has been enhanced to provide a more streamlined story experience. Alongside the main adventure, players can enjoy optional side quests, stories and minigames.

Yep cut content baby

>Thrilling Battle System - The turn-based battle system has been overhauled with significant changes to offer more dynamic and thrilling battles, including an updated vocation system that features a “Moonlighting” mechanic, allowing players to use two vocations at one, a “Let Loose” ability that can be activated when a character gets worked up, and a new "Monster Master" vocation that introduces the “Positive Reinforcement” vocational perk that summons powerful monsters to assault any enemy.

Casualised and piss easy fight
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>>12024068
Yeah. The series has been shockingly Rubiss focused for a while.
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>>12021298
ok but if I post a PSP on here I'm banned for a week.
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>>12024070
This series juggles so many creation gods as it is.
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>>12023656
8 doesn't need a remake, it just needs a "complete" version that has the graphics and sound of the PS2 version with the bonus content of the 3DS version
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>>12024875
I dunno... given how this 7 remake seems to be doing its own thing instead of following the 3DS one, it feels likely that another DQ8 remake will demote Red and Morrie back to NPCs in favor of something elss.


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