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Where do the idea that this is such an obtuse, confusing, unfair game come from?

The manual literally explains what every single item and enemy does and even has a giant foldable map that shows you 6 of the 8 dungeons, plus additional secret areas of interest.

Do zoomers just ignore the manual, play totally blind, and then throw their hands up in frustration that the game doesn't hand them victory on a silver platter?
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>>11574942
you'll never guess which bush is burnable! better buy that player's guide anon!
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>>11572464
>Regardless, I'm not a kid any more, so I DON'T have the motivation to spend hours a day for months banging my head against the wall in a single mediocre game just to say I beat it.
If you don't like a game then skip it.
Also it took months as a kid, should go a lot quicker when you are an adult.
Thirdly I disagree with the "I don't have time since I'm an adult now" bullshit. Concuming the most amount of content in the least amount of time is pretty dumb and unnecessary
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>>11576419
>If you don't like a game then skip it.
And I have. We're discussing why, and part of it is that I don't really find Zelda 1 worth playing now.
>the "I don't have time since I'm an adult now" bullshit
I said I don't have the motivation, not the time. I have plenty of free time, I just don't want to spend it on a game like this. The biggest thing to me is that Zelda 1's gameplay just isn't all that fun. For comparison, I love Metroid 1 and was totally willing to sink the time into that game to beat it blind because it's a lot of fun to play, which makes dealing with all the obtuse bullshit bearable.
>Concuming the most amount of content in the least amount of time is pretty dumb and unnecessary
That's never been a goal of mine, but I do make value judgements about the amount of fun I have with a game versus the amount of time it demands of me.
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>>11570315
just say you hate zelda
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>>11570517
TPBP

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I like the vibe of the game. The music's cool and the cutscenes are funny, but fuck the gameplay. The controls feel like I'm trying to write my name with boxing gloves on, some of the enemies pretty much require you to take a hit, and good luck avoiding them, because you can't. It's an objectively bad game because you have to fight it just to play the game.
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>>11577795
>a ''''game'''' by one of the fags that literally tried to ruin the industry with FMV movie reddit slop
>good survival horrror
Miss me with that shit
>>11572435
This
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>>11578317
>countdown vampires
literally one of the shittiest games and resident evil clones of all time.
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>>11578653
Not even close. Countdown Vampires is actually playable.

You haven't seen the things I've seen. Countdown Vampires is actually one of the decent ones.
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This piece of shit right here, that is nothing like the movie and feels like some lost Spectrum game.
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>>11572413
This is the first SNES Japanese RPG and it sucks. I wont even type the english name because its embarrassing. Their brilliant crit system allows for any enemy to do 4x or 12x damage randomly which will instantly kill your character and end the game. By the time you get the spell that can revive your main character its at the point where you can abuse an item to skip every battle anyway so its pointless.

It's Mana time!
But also I have a question: how many pre-6th gen versions of this game exist? I know there's the original Windows 95 version, I think in 4 CDs? Not sure why it needed so much space.
Saturn and PS1 versions, in 2 CDs each, and Macintosh, presumably also 4 CDs?
Any other version of this?
Also post:
Favorite ending
Favorite moment
Best girl
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>>11578339
Mana based girl
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>>11578346
Is this a new scene from the PS2 ver or it's from GoS2?
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>>11578339
She's pretty. I would have licit sex with her within the sacrament of marriage.

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It's too complicated for its own good.
Nothing feels easy or fun.
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>>11578603
>>11578604
>enters thread
>doesn't read any posts
>calls others lazy
How embarrassing...
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doesnt it have an in-game help window with the F1 key? basically every old computer game does that
in fact F1 is still the default help key to this day for a lot of programs

youd think people here, of all places, would know such things already
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>>11574230
>just turns the game into Prey with no music
Is it somehow a bad thing? Arkane's Prey is literally System Shock 3.
Also, the remake has music...
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>>11578819
The original's music was supposed to sound futuristic and cyberpunkish with some NIN influence to top it off. Many people got the same feeling from the music judging by comments online: like they were trapped in a factory constantly churning out lethal robots and cyborgs against you.

The remake's music is largely ambient faux-80s synthwave which has been dominant in the synth/techno/electronic scene since Stranger Things. It feels like the developers wanted you to be inside an 80s sci-fi movie instead of inside a futuristic space station run by an insane AI.

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Have you played Klonoa, anons?
Any of the installments. I'm glad Moonlight Museum and Klonoa Heroes are now translated in English.

Wahoo.
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>>11573183
maybe its not positive i was just saying. im also extremely mentally ill and like klonoa, i just see it a lot with this series more than others
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>>11577542
i do see a lot of undertale fans who like klonoa, the remake definitely gave the games a lot of publicity, though it didnt give them mainstream success unfortunately. i think undertale is fairly different from klonoa actually, though the bond between asriel/chara is obviously similar.
klonoa reminds me more of omori honestly, the only difference is klonoa keeps that stuff in the background in order to be more broadly relatable & less alienating whereas omori doubles down on the mental illness aspect, themes of loss & struggling to grow up, depression etc, and the real world segments. i think seeing what klonoa's life in the real world is like would have helped give him some more modern appeal, and give basis for the things we see in his dreams. if omori was just the headspace segments with only allusions to something bad having happened in the past, i feel like it wouldve had a lot less weight
i feel like this is probably the reason klonoa still fails to find a modern audience, it definitely has hints of that stuff but it doesnt full commit to it like omori does, because obviously if it full committed to it back then it wouldve flopped miserably, though might have found future acclaim as an avant garde "hidden gem" that was ahead of its time, but thats obviously not what companies seek to make
though im definitely in the minority in the klonoa fanbase, i enjoyed it for the mental illness aspects and im not a furry/dont have any interest in fucking the characters. i feel like most people dont think about this stuff
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>>11578283
>i think seeing what klonoa's life in the real world is like
Does Klonoa even have a "real world"? It seems as the Dream Traveler he's doomed to be summoned to whatever "Dream" dimension that needs him with no escape.
And to play Volleyball.
Or maybe the world of Klonoa Heroes is his real world
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>>11578334
i mean, maybe. i always took "dream traveller" to mean he was someone who spends all day dreaming, like madotsuki or sunny, and thus "travels dreams". klonoa 2 at the very least is clearly a story centered around klonoa's psyche. empire of dreams also takes place in a kingdom where "dreaming is forbidden" because its a "waste of time" which seems relevant, but i havent beaten it or played dream champ tournament at all
i guess maybe looking into these stories too deeply is a fruitless effort, though i think thats also part of the appeal of modern indie games - they usually have a lot of work put into their story & worlds, since klonoa is made by a big company it could be perceived as being a lot more shallow
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>>11578345
Klonoa comes from a better, more soulful era tho, it's not like Namco is Activision and Klonoa is Medal of Wahoo.

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What do We have to do in order to get the Kino 64 to the same level of discussion as retro consoles? What topics should We focus on? Could RetroAchievements being introduced for the Kino 64 help spike some interest in it as a gaming platform?
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>>11576897
armalyte, katakis, steel ranger, zero wing 1 or 2, last ninja 1 or 2, sams journey, summer games, winter games, any of the bruce lee games if you like those type of platformers, tried to limit it to stuff that doesn't have better or even other versions elsewhere.
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>>11576868
love c64 so much that it's unreal

>>11576876
>with those wide-ass pixels
yeah. it was a cheap way to reduce ram consumption. worked very well.
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Most games for it were ass.
Boulder dash is based though.
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>>11576897
Impossible Mission
The Castles of Doctor Creep
Ultimate Wizard
The Goonies and Zorro (both also on Atari 8bit along with Bruce Lee)
Project Firestart

Almost all these are more puzzle-platform games than pure action games though now that I think of it. And Project Firestart is like a cinematic survival-horror game.
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>>11577005
How were they ass? A lot of them played better than amiga games imo, much more tight gameplay.

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This is a "plastic fetishist" thread I guess, but one aspect of retro games that I rarely see discussed is how different consoles had their own distinct smell.
I'm not sure if it's just me but I don't think modern consoles have much of a distinct aroma to their components as older machines did. I assume newer plastics and compositions are less prone to have smells? Would make sense but that's just a guess.
I also thought, maybe it's just the fact smells were stronger to me when I was a kid and nowadays as I'm older I smell less, but I was proven wrong when I recently got an opened but only used once Super Scope in box, and holy shit, the aroma here is just as I remembered, when I was 8 and got the Super Nintendo. I still have that same console, but after so much use, it just doesn't have any particular smell anymore, the Super Scope preserved it.
I also remember Genesis, N64, Saturn and Famiclones having a particular smell too, not sure about PS1.
Games too, the particular smell of a brand-new game freshly opened from the box, the mixture of plastic, paper, cardboard and sticker label all combined into a very pleasant aroma that IMO enhanced the experience of playing a new game.
Manuals obviously all have good smell, even into 6th gen, I remember Gamecube game manuals having a particular strong smell, a bit too harsh compared to the more mellow (to give it some sort of description) smell of N64 manuals. Manuals can retain the smell more easily than plastic.
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>>11573692
>Almost 24 hours
>Still no reply from plastic sniff anon
RIP
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>>11574281
>smells are closely\intrinsically tied to memory development
Yeah, I think smell is often underrated when it comes to senses. Like people only ever comment on smell in either a gross/disgusting way or a sexual way, only women pay more attention to good smells/perfumes, guys only use deodorant to not smell, not to smell good.
But I digress, smell can be very strong especially when it comes to nostalgia and memory unlocking, it's why I was so surprised when I got this Super Scope and it smelled like brand-new SNES (probably the fact the box and manuals are also the same kind used on the SNES box art helps). I don't even really consider myself a fetishist, the opener line in my op was a joke. I play my physical stuff a lot and emulate a lot too, I don't really fetishize plastic, but I bought a Scope because I wanted to properly play its games and came across this strong nostalgia-through-nostrils.
And then I started thinking about how things in general had more particular/interesting/memorable smells compared to today. Probably less healthy but who knows.
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>>11573421
I have associated the smell of cleaning chemicals with cleaning nes carts/playing nes as a kid, which in turn also causes me to get an erection.
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>>11573421
Many have that 'full' sweet smell, but SNES is by far the strongest for some reason. Hits different notes than the others. I can smell my Mario Paint mousepad just thinking about it.
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I love chemicals

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Latest sub:
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>>11578267
It was a toxoplasmosis ritual. They inserted the parasite into Arino's brain just like a fucking Yeerk from Animorphs.
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>>11574950
https://www.mobygames.com/game/from:1984/title:No%2520daib%25C5%258Dken/until:2004/sort:date/page:1/
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>>11578081
Don't forget all the smaller groups that did 1 or 2 episodes
Including /vr/
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I think about the anons who need subs and get a good chuckle every time I turn on a new episode or pop in one of the dvds
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>>11577942
Good, gatekeeping is necessary.

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Was PC gaming always about anticipating what new, cool thing the companies were going to produce so you could get your hands on a similarly performant, but cheaper, product replacement after one or two years?
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Ocarina of Time

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You guys inspired me in the last thread (the one where the retarded zoomer cried that the Trinitron was somehow going to go crashing through the stand that was designed for it) to get my shit together. I've been going through little by little and cleaning up the closet this week. The back of the closet is still pretty cluttered but at least I can access everything easily now and I can finally use this space for gaming again :) the left side (where I keep the FC/SFC/MD carts) is all cleaned up too except for a few random small things like cameras that I'm gonna list for sale.
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>>11576972
>do you wear wigs?
uh no i do not
>have you worn wigs?
no i have not
>will you wear wigs?
....maybe??
>when will you wear wigs??
bwahahaha
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>>11576959
>No chigyu
Nagoshi would be proud of you
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>>11564771

This is the funniest fucking shit I've seen on here in awhile lmmaoo
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>>11566529
What game is that?

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Damn, this a good ass game. Why didn't you tell me how good this game was.
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>>11578452
I tried to tell you bro
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>>11578452
i did
now play the rest of the GBA and DS games too. theyre all really fun
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>>11578452
Because I wish you were dead, OP. The world would be a better place if you were never born, OP.
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People were always gushing about Aria of Sorrow so you can't blame anyone not telling you how good it is but yourself.
I still have to get to OoE but i personally like the DS titles more than the GBA ones.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHpBPV6YyGw
[ULE INTENSIFIES]

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What are your favorite retro Star Wars games?
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>>11577653
Whenever someone wants a new rpg Im always like an old man
>check this shit out faggot
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>>11573120
KOTOR II + the Content Restoration Patch
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>>11577884
What I meant is that I know they are retro but don't think of them that way because it means accepting im old. It just seems weird skyrim will be on this board in a few years.
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>>11578125
if Skyrim is on this board before TES6 then everyone here is a fucking nigger
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>>11578128
I didn't even consider that scenario.

Namco really missed the opportunity to inculde a rom of Starblade in Starfox: Assault. It really would of been an nice nod to have the game that served as the inspiration to the Starfox franchise.
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>>11578616
This game is supremely underrated and it deserved a direct sequel on Wii, in the vein of Sin & Punishment.
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>rom
That game required a full remake like the one in Tekken 5.

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Dig Dug/Mr.Driller Thread
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I love Mr. Driller. I've been playing it lately. I think I might buy another one off eBay. I don't want them all but I want at least three of them. This I have decided.

(The three are Drill Spirits which is the one I started with, Mr. Driller 2, and Drill Land. Mr. Driller A looks cool too but I don't think I like the more turn-based mechanics it appears to use, and the virtual pet aspect of it doesn't interest me either.)
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>top 10 most brutal anime executions
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Why does he inflate his enemies until they explode? That's pretty brutal.
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>>11578667
nah it's cool they're into it
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>>11578414
I myself have most of the games (1 on both PS1 and GBC, 2 and A on GBA, Drill Land (remake on Switch), and Drill Spirits).
A doesn’t have any turn-based mechanics. The main mode is pretty similar to the ‘Hole of Duraga’ attraction in Drill Land. Collecting dristones to get through the stages, sometimes random encounters with Pookas/Fygars (pretty much luck-based), and feeding your pacteria things. The encounters are not way too often at least. The virtual pet aspect isn’t very deep, so don’t worry if you’re not into it. You just feed it things and it’ll alter the pacteria’s appearance (like color or accessories). I won’t spoil the ending, but it’s surprisingly kind of sad.
There’s also your regular driller mode if you prefer that with 6 (7 when you clear all the stages) playable characters. Lastly, there’s the Driller GP mode which is kind of reminiscent of the time trials from Mario Kart where you race 4 other characters and try to get to the goal as fast as you can.
I personally think it’s worth finding a copy of A if you can. I bought my copy off eBay about a year and a half ago (was like maybe $35 or so). It’s basically a better version of Driller 2 on GBA, better presentation and music too.

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You ARE prepared for the impending stickpocalypse, right anon? How many OEM N64 controllers do you have stockpiled right now?
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>>11575774
It doesn't have the original stick
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>>11575940
If there's anything we lack in 2025, it's quality control. If any country has cheap labor, then it's not thorough or discerning. If any country has a thorough and discerning workforce, then it's not cheap. It would be interesting to see the equipment and crew that made those original gears en masse.
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>>11562727
3 i think, maybe more idk its all in storage.

Hey, whats a good pc engine controller? Ive cleaned it but im still having issues with the atart button.
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>>11575183
Sounds like you're using way too much lubricant.
>>11575334
>>11575486
>>11575940
Kitsch bent gears are OK once you remove the excess plastic. Best way to do that I think is carefully with a razor blade
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>>11562727
Uoooh time to make the collecting scene even gayer. Can I have a company grade the sticks?


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