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Let's have a thread about retro Game Freak games that are NOT Pokémon.
This includes:

>Quinty / Mendel Palace (1989 - NES)
>Jerry Boy / Smart Ball (1991 - SNES)
>Yoshi (1991 - NES/GB)
>Magical Tarurūto-kun (1992 - Mega Drive)
>Mario & Wario (1993 - SFC)
>Nontan to Issho: KuruKuru Puzzle (1994 - SFC/GB)
>Pulseman (1994 - Mega Drive)
>Bazaar de Gosāru no Game de Gosāru (1996 - PCE-CD)
>Jelly Boy 2 (1996 - SFC) [UNRELEASED]
>Bushi Seiryūden: Futari no Yūsha (1997 - SFC)
>Click Medic (1999 - PS1)
>Drill Dozer (2005 - GBA)

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>>10872220
It is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_oWkNienwo
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>>10873123
I found out about it through GCCX. Someone on the translation team suggested it as a change of pace but afterwards gave the impression that they regretted doing it. I thought it was a great episode so I decided to give it a try after watching it. It's just a puzzle game with good presentation but it ticks all the right boxes for me.
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>>10873123
I reject the notion that you even called this a game.
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Can somebody tell me what the big appeal of Drill Dozer is? Seems like it's on so many peoples' favorite GBA list, but I've played a couple hours of it and found it mind-numbingly easy. So easy that I can't see the fun in it.
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>>10877083
It's a puzzle game. Do you reject the notion that all puzzle games are games or something?

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>"Why does everyone ask about Chrono Trigger?" he laughed. We told him it's a very loved series. "That's not what the sales tell me!" he responded.
>"If people want a sequel, they should buy more!"
- Shinji Hashimoto
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>>10877268
Glad you mentioned that, as right after posting, I remembered that its MSRP was a full-price DS game's (or at least that, if the $10 extra premium you mentioned is true). Saddest part is that Square is even worse and more mediocre of a company than they were back then over a decade ago, now also being a Chinese company.
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>>10877446
I will always remember it. At the time, DS games were $30, with two exceptions: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver (which included the Pokewalker), and Chrono Trigger, which were $40.
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>>10877454
I remember there being a price hike from GBA games (always $30 I think), and some games being $40, but details are so minor in my memory. Now that you mention it, I think that premium price was a major reason why I didn't get it (while I did happily get SoulSilver at launch), besides the fact that I thought this should've been released as GBA port if they weren't going to polygonally remake it a la FFIII-IV I was also holding out for a DS port of FF7 for the lifetime of the console, so this decision of theirs was especially a twisting of the knife; thanks for reading my unnecessary blog
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>>10873108
>Average subhuman wants whatever marketing will tell him to want.

As it should be! The majority of the human race are nothing more than cattle that exist to mindlessly eat slop and be milked dry.
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>>10877714
I honestly never thought of this, but you are right. It is kinda mind boggling they didn't bring 7 to the DS and 8 and 9 to 3DS.

I wish I had a high-res version of the Firelord cover art without all the logos so I could print it and put it on my wall.
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How do 40 year old electronics still function?
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>>10875781
>despite making up only 10% of the population
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>>10875780
Simple as.
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>>10870578
The same way 40 year old people do. They're damaged enough that you can see it on the surface, but not damaged enough to stop them chugging. And the retrobright and botox won't keep them pretty forever.
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Manufacturing wasn't given to the lowest bidder.
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>>10873352
The more realistic scenario is we get to the point that every chip is documented so well and manufacturing becomes so widely available that you could just order new replacements for every important chip or part necessary from a chink website or even build new hardware from scratch via this process. It's all just electrical components anyway in the end and im sure most 30 years ago never expected we would have things like 3D printers allowing someone to build plastic molds using a computer system in their own private use. Emulation is good, but it wont stop nerds from tinkering with electronics. There are still geezers 80+ that run old tv(50s and 60s) and radio repair services as hobbies.

We will likely all be long dead by the time you couldn't scrape together a working nes from original parts, but the dedicated wont let them die regardless if there is a means.

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Still the best.
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>>10872916
It forces you to prioritise. If you want to use a particular weapon type. You have to think about that from the start. You have to build a character around that. If you want to go all in on speech and magic or whatever else, then you're not going to be good at combat. Basically it makes your choices matter.

In Skyrim and even Oblivion, you can get away with not prioritising the skills you want to use, and as a result you can easily be an all rounder who's great at everything. Not possible in Morrowind, at least not from the start.
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>>10875821
>I'm convinced people who complain about missing in combat are either trolls or are just shit at games in general.
A lot of it is from people starting fights with no stamina. That’s a real easy snare you can put yourself into if you want to run everywhere, especially if you want to start out wearing heavy armor.
I got into Starwind recently and it feels like they changed the stamina just enough to where it won’t drain if you’re running, but this is also coming from a character with athletics as a minor skill.
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>>10875821
Once you up Speed and Endurance some, not even by that many levels, that smooths out, Athletics improves by itself as you walk or swim, which helps that.

If you don't have the patience for that shit, then picking The Steed as your birth sign confers a whopping 25 Speed extra on character creation, and that makes a hell of a difference, but the drawback is that The Steed isn't like a Constant Effect bonus stacking onto your base Speed attribute, it ups it directly, thus it is "wasted" as you level up enough.
That is if you care about powergaming/münchkining, and maybe you don't, but Morrowind is one of those games which makes that fun.
One more approach is to play an Orc, and then find the Boots Of Blinding Speed, as Orcs resist blindess (but not fully).

I would personally suggest to not increase your Speed attribute over maybe 70 or so, as it makes it kind of awkwardly fast, but that's just me.

Fighter's Guild gives away lots of Restore Fatigue potions for free, so becoming a member for those, regardless of what class and build you're actually playing, is pretty worth it. If you're an Alchemist sort of guy, then many common foodstuffs and ingredients can be used to make such potions.
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>>10876015
BoBS are a bit too much for regular use imo.
200+ speed kinda trivializes your whole build as you can just dance around anything

my compromise is that ill just make potions
keeps it as a more limited resource
>moonsugar
>kagouti hide/shalk resin
>saltrice
>scuttle (or whatever restore fatigue ingredient)
fortify speed + restore fatigue
lets you zoom around everywhere, and provided you havent done the fortify INT cheese to make 90000000000sec duration potions, you can just wait a bit and itll wear off

like most RPGs, i find the most rewarding styles of play come from nerfing myself in line with my characters role
do i know i can fortify my fatigue 500pts for 1 sec (its only ~15 magick per cast) and become ~300% more likely to succeed in basically every mechanic in the game, from speech, alchemy, armorer, enchant, mercantile etc?

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got a pretty neat thing going on right now
>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/50579
spawns in a ton of corprus beasts, and adds a bunch more new types of corprus beasts like casters etc
almost all NPCs are now corprus beasts and all the towns are overrun. MQ has been changed to reflect the nerevarine failing, so the back path is the only way

plus
>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46036
buffs all corprus beasts and all ash creatures majorly. dagoth bros now all have stupidly OP constant effects to reflect their amulets. ash creatures actually use threatening spells instead of spamming useless shit like burden at you. they also seem to regen magicka. even the lesser walkers/zombies have been two-shotting me. ordinators/guards just OHKO me

rolled a breton favoring AGI + LCK, under the sign of the lover. weapon skills are marksman and spear as a minor. picked light armor cuz shes not very strong

just had to run along the rooftops of balmora as it was completely overrun. had about 40 of em chasing me lol. broke into nalcaryas to grab some potions and alchemy gear. headed to caldera to try to raid verrick gemaines shop for the amulet of recall and ring of aversion (and whatever else i can find)

anyone ever tried this?
like a totally different game

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about to play this for the first time and yes, the translated snes version because I am too much of a poor fag to buy this on DS and missed the opportunity to get that version back when it came out in 2009 since I was young and didn't know anything about the dragon quest games. any tips would be welcome and you are free to discuss who is better waifu between the 2 in the snes version. got the game booted up on a little hamdheld emulator and can't wait to have a comfy time with it.
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>>10877775
this
2 mogs the shit out of 6
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>>10876671
This is why I begged you to stop. Now you've got the whole thread shitting on VI, my favorite game. You've made us VI-enjoyers look terrible.
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>>10877775
Is that where most of the DQ2 praise is coming from? Makes sense. It's one of the most astroturfed games I've seen on this site in a long time.
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>>10877171
>Its inconsistent and comes out of nowhere. Then the game just speeds through pregnancy, child birth, and your wife being kidnapped in about 10 minutes.
Except that isn't what happens.

>Yes, the game is at fault when they spike the difficulty up so damn high you get instantly murdered in half the encounters and aren't allowed to backtrack by any means.
Or you could try not being a filtered retard lol
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>>10878016
>Except that isn't what happens.
That is what happens
>Or you could try not being a filtered retard lol
Its a genuine flaw in the game's design, and the fact that you can't accept it shows how insecure you are about the game and how much you don't want to admit any part of it is shit, proving everyone who is shitting on it correct.

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/04/mega-man-legends-2s-japanese-prologue-is-finally-getting-an-english-fan-translation

The fan translation group Hilltop Works has announced that it is translating the Japanese-exclusive prologue to Mega Man Legends 2 into English.

If you're a Mega Man Legends fan, you might already be aware that Mega Man Legends 2 has a somewhat unusual name in Japan, being released in the country under the title Rockman Dash 2 - Episode 2: Ōinaru Isan.

This title came about as Japan actually got its own exclusive prologue to the game, which was first distributed as a bonus disc for the Mega Man Legends spin-off Tron ni Kobun (under the title Episode One: Roll-Chan Kiki Ippatsu) before later appearing as part of the 2005 PSP port.
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>>10877116
30-40 what?
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>>10877603
Minutes. It's very short.
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>fan translation group has announced that it called dibs on this game

'kay see you in 30 years when the game is still listed as "10% in progress" on their website and nobody else will translate it because "they're working on it".
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>>10877798
>I get all my information from headlines
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Neat

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Why does playing old games on an emulator feel so soulless compared to real hardware? Even if the emulation is 100% accurate, there's still something deeply unsatisfying about playing these games on some chinese made flat lcd monitor with fake refresh rate specs, running on a taiwanese made computer and an os full of advertising and telemetry that's constantly spying on you, pushing propaganda, and trying to sell something to you, with a modern cheap feeling plastic controller made of parts that disintegrate after a few months.

Meanwhile, when I sit in from of an old crt monitor with a physical cartridge or disk and the real hardware in my hands, I feel none of that dissatisfaction. Has anyone studied the psychology behind all of this?
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>>10872929
That cd or cartridge is a copy of the first master too, faggot
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>itt
Coping buyfags trying to assure themself that they didnt waste money on useless physical media.

Meanwhile emulator chads keep enjoying the free and authentic games
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>>10868223
I mean considering the amount of hilariously slanted detail you went into just to make using something as basic as a fucking computer sound bad, I'd figure it's simply autism.
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>>10878008
>he doesn't realise his device is physical media
The logic of someone that doesn't keep redundant physical backups
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>>10878032
>backups

just download them again if needed?

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>Quirky Japanese Saturn game that played like Parappa
>Recently Gets an English translation
>Check it out
>Intro has guy singing about recycling and not using greenhouse gases among other things
>Thought for sure the translators took liberties
>Find scan of a 1998 poster for the game that had the lyrics on it
>Machine translation shows that actually is what he is really singing about
Ok, so one small change is that they replaced "Freon" with "CFC gasses" but that's a pretty close translation anyway
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>>10876295
What makes you say that?
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>>10876423
All English fan translations are shit. No exceptions.
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>>10876854
Ok, you do you
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>10876854
Mother 3
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I tried quickly testing it out in an emulator to make sure the patch was applied correctly, the lag was incredibly bad.

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how am I supposed to cope with the fact that I'll never recapture the magic of being a kid looking for secret exits and keys again? Swimming under the wall in the ocean level on star road blew my mind as a kid, now I remember everything and the magic is gone
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You need to decalcify your Pineal Gland.
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>>10877467
you can discover irl city secrets irl in the irl city :3
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>>10877835
No. They should just invent a magical rewind time to when I was a kid and make it stay that way forever machine.
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Play them again on LSD.
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>>10877467
dude just smoke weed

How would you rate Koei's strategy games?
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>>10875773
>novels based on novels
There isn't that much media based on Rot3K but Koei in particular in positively fixated on it.
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>>10870417
I prefer Nobunaga's Ambition if only because Japanese history is easier to follow and more interesting than that dry, boring Chinese clusterfuck.
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tried playing Rise of the Phoenix a couple times to no avail. Had no idea how to manage resources, who were all those subordinates and what i was supposed to be doing with them. Led my starting armies in a couple battles until they were exhausted and that was it.

i'm used to playing total war games so i guess that made me dumb
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>>10876184
The Genesis version of Nobunaga’s Ambition is my favorite combination of simple gameplay, easier to deal with menus & options, and cute graphics.

I’ve tried the later SNES and earlier NES versions and they can’t compete. Way too complex and convoluted.
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>>10870812
same, any game with a chinese theme is a hard pass

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What's your favorite light gun and light gun games? I know Virtua Cop 2 is considered a better game but I like the simplicity of the first game more.
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>>10877824
I watched some youtuber talking about calibration, saying it varies from CRT to CRT, and that using the 240p test suite and setting brightness high helps a lot. Basically said first party guns are good, just need a good calibration method. Also said the genuine Dreamcast gun was shit, but I don't know if I should trust these people.
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>>10877926
I mean, there are first party guns that are ass, like the Konami Hyperblaster. A whole bunch of games supported it until Namco came out with the guncon, which was miles better due to sync. There are mods to play hyperblaster games with the guncon, but they're literally just controller ID switching, which means the guncon essentially acts as a hyperblaster and the accuracy is just as dogshit in those games. Maybe one day someone will come along and properly put the guncon timing code in those older titles, but I guess with light guns being dead it's easier to just bind the cursor to a mouse and sidestep the issue.
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Anyone used a wiimote as a light gun on pc? What was the experience like?
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>>10877824
what are the best guns for the ps1, ps2, saturn, dreamcast & nes/famicom?
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>>10878004
>Anyone used a wiimote as a light gun on pc? What was the experience like?
About as good as using a wiimote on a wii, so intolerable.

You can play basic games with an on-screen cursor with 2 point tracking. It's going to be slow, the pointer is going to drift an inch or two at random over a couple of minutes of play, but you can do it.

>>10878010
>ps1, ps2,
Guncon 1. Guncon 2 has more buttons and is even a bit more accurate, but is inferior in terms of feeling in the hand.
>saturn,
Stunner.
>dreamcast
Here I don't know. I've only tried the official gun, which is awful, shaped for retards. If I really wanted to play DC games (which all run better on PC now, so what's the point), I'd probably try out the StarFire LightBlaster, which always looked a little better than the mad catz one.
>& nes/famicom?
Zapper is good, GUN is better but you'd probably be paying like 200 bucks for one now.

>"Where did everyone go, bingo?"
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>>10877254
Brainlet
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>>10877254
stay in your fortnite and FNAF discords, faggot
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>>10877254
based everyone knows The Room was the best Silent Hill
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>>10877254
>survival
>canon ending is suicide
heh
zoomers
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the "remake" is gonna suck so bad
>upon meeting pyramid head:
>"shiet, that's a tall motherfucker."
>QTEs to dodge his attacks
>upon meeting Maria at the park:
>"do I look like your side-bitch or sum?"
>"no, my baby momma. you could be her twin just your amount of melanin is different namsayin."

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Extremebros and Iggychads we're back!
https://youtu.be/7J_b_FrhLHY?si=xPgZF7fipxv-zsgu
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>>10877468
>>10877494
Weird, other companies that own shovelware previously owned by another comapny, and have their games on NSO, don't edit their boxart
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You do realize that this online ROM service is the start of the end for pirated emulation, right?

Maybe you're too young to remember but some 20 years ago every tech-illiterate normie knew how to get pirated movies. It was everywhere and simple. Then online streaming services appeared and by "pure coincidence" govermnents started fighting movie piracy, they succeeded to the point that these days not a single normie would know how to pirate movies and just pays for at the very least one streaming service. It got to the point that the agencies that were created to fight pirated movies have now laid off people because they did such a good job.

As these online services for video games by big names like "Nintendo" develop, by advertising and using them, you are signing the death of ROMs on archive.org and other mediums like that.
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>>10877828
it's not that you're wrong it's that nintendo has been offering shit emulation of old nintendo games since like the wii
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>>10877374
this is literally how it went back then
I passed that shit up to rent rogue squadron or smash bros for the hundredth time
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>>10877828
This is what happens when you keep stubbornly refusing to give all of your money to the almighty corporations.

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>Fighting Mania is a premium quality high-income game that is exclusive to the arcades. You can't get this much fun at home ...ever!
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at least dreamcast owners can play hokuto no ken now

all those atomiswave ports are amusing to me
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>>10876513
I was just playing the english translated Hokuto No Ken (with blood!) on Genesis. Finally, I can play it with the blood explosions and ALL the violence. You should try it if you like the series.
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>>10877956
Ive wanted to play that game since it came out. when I first got a genesis emulator I found out that the game was a weak version of FoTNS and said forget it lol. I was hoping for a translation for ages and now I'm going to play it


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