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What point and click should I play next?
Dear god not Deponia
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OP I recommend Still Life

>>12429526
Surreal atmosphere is awesome too
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>>12428850
It's complete shit
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>>12429526
it could've been so much better, the publisher forced them to dumb the game down because audience reasons. you can really tell after the Sarah chapters.
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>>12429520
Then suggest retro games. There's no rule in /vr/ that you have to pretend it's the year 1999, just don't talk about older games as threads. This thread is about point and clicks, but they didn't stop being made after the 80s. Go be a crybaby somewhere else.
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>>12430112
Retarded newfag. How about, instead of pulling your own rules out of your ass, you just go and read the stickied post instead?
Any posts discussing non-retro games should get deleted, and they did, back when this board's moderation wasn't in the shitter like it is now.

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Tekken doesn't deserve its attention. On pretty much every metric it's below something else in the genre.
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>>12428479
one of these things is not like the others
(its tekken)
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>>12428563
>without the animation system to carry it.
WDYM? Post examples
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>>12425216
I'll never not be mad that Soulcalibur was killed so as not to compete with the Golden Child.
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>>12425216
It's about the gestalt, not one thing or another. That said, later Tekken games polished their fighting systems while losing most of the original's charm. I'd say Tekken 4 was the last "cool" Tekken game.
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>>12430056
>I'd say Tekken 4 was the last "cool" Tekken game.
no, it was definitely tekken 5. everything after that has been more and more soulless. tekken 5 has THE best intro, and incredibly solid cast, introduced customizations, and has moonlit wilderness stage. t4 was definitely cool, but t5 was even better.

>ruins the zelda franchise for the entirely of the 00's because some japanese boomers had nostalgia for it or something
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>>12427790
Maybe because the protagonist is a cool adult instead of retarded kid?
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>>12426360
This game looks rad as fuck though.
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>>12426130
Zelda peaked at OOT
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>>12430015
OoT is shit.
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Sorry wrong pic

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I just found out about this game and Hamlet for the pc98.
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Good for you. Were you going to say anything about it?
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>>12425849
I'm almost certain they had this game in mind when they were tinkering with those early first person Resident Evil concepts. Just zombies in a spooky house instead of zombies in a spooky moon base.
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>>12427086
It looks cool. I want to play it
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This game could be genuinely scary if you were just a team of space marines and not stomping around in combat mechs. Even then it's still spooky in parts like when you get lured down into the mines.
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This was one of the first PS1 games I ever rented so I have fond memories of it even if it's not that great.

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How could Tekken even compete?
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>>12429262
I’m 40 and cursive relies on context, 3tb doesn’t mean anything in any context.
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>>12429183
This... could have saved the Saturn system
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>>12429256
It's 3 terrabites, you need the ram cartridge to fully unlock the game.
Duh
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>>12429183
Easy. By having arcade machines everywhere and having a good console port of T3.

If you played arcade VF3 when it was new then you were extremely lucky to live near a selected arcade. Most of us saw VF3 only on screenshots. And then the DC port sucked ass.
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>>12429183
>/s
You dropped this

>not having owned a Sega Saturn since the 90s
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>>12429021
pretending to like it is bad enough of a lie. why compound the lies?
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>>12429654
>>12428009
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>>12427776
I wanted one so bad in the 90s, but $600 in 1996 was too much.Then I saved for a PSX ($300) in 1998 and I'm glad I did

I think around 2012 I scored a cheap CIB modchipped Saturn and, even if I've had it hooked up on various ocassions, it hasn't really clicked yet. There's a translated card game I want to try tho
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>>12429654
Hi, OP of the Pretend thread.
You lost.
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>>12429743
>UHH I LOVE THE SATURN ITS NOT THE WORST CONSOLE OF ALL TIME I LOVE IT AND UN ACTUALLY I ALSO GOT IT ON LAUNCH CUZ I REALLY LOVE IT SO MUCH
what do you gain from the lies lmfao, I truly don’t understand. some nerds also lying think youre cool?
>wow this guy actually likes the shittiest console ever? he must be so cool and so smart!!!!

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Test Drive series. Why is a series that spawned so many sequels forgotten and nobody talks about it.

How do the PC versions and PS versions differ. What are the better and worse games. I seen original copies for TD5 for PS, is it worth it or should I just pirate the PC versions.
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>>12428076
>Meanwhile Distinctive was sold out to EA and made a couple of racing sims for them before using their know how and EA money to create another remake of Test Drive for 3DO console which was called The Need for Speed
Neat, I didn't know that but that explains a lot. I remember thinking Need for Speed 1 and 2 felt a lot like modern (at the time) versions of Test Drive 2 with the traffic and police chases and all.
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>>12427671
Because they were just a worse version of Need for Speed games
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TD went to shit when it went 3D. The 2D games are great though. TDU 1&2 are better than what came before but are still pretty rough.
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I am not discussing this series with this board, not with my experience in the past.
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>>12427671
I play it from time to time. The tracks are really cool. Not so much the physics and especially the opponents. It's alright. Good luck actually winning with traffic enabled lel

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Post the most aesthetically pleasing consoles variants.
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>>12422795
In my opinion that X68000 model is the most classy thing ever. Pure beauty.
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>>12423601
You just know that reset and eject button feel like pure sex.
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>>12425628
It should it been in blue to fulfill the reference.
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>>12423386
If only there is an Xstation for that model, and no I don't wanna use TonyHaX, cucarachas took notices and jerked off prices of the official game, also what if laser went bad and scratches discs?
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>>12421890
Master System Evolution

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These would all be forgotten like the 3DO if it weren't for the 2-3 "must play" games each of them have.
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>it's another anti-sega/anti-nintendo thread
Why are post-2020 /vr/ users so antagonistic toward the kings of retro?
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>>12429615
They were only the kings for Gen 3 & 4. The the eternal PS king came.
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>>12429615
Sony fans are notoriously rabid and have bad taste.
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>>12429602
Where is your truly classic MAME list?
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>>12429484
Everyone must play Virtual On.

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>It's a Nancy Drew takes a part time job at a BDSM club in Italy episode
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>>12428021
>at the time
Goddamnit
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>>12427964
Surprisingly enough, Nintendo did NOT invent ocarinas.
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>>12428630
kek, I remember checking random ocarina websites some time after OoT released and the (mostly middle aged) people making these instruments were completely baffled why so many kids were ordering them out of a sudden while talking about elves and princesses. it was cute.
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The customers won't be so excited when they hear her old lady voice
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Context?

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This never really gets “epic” like the first game.
What do you think?
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the only real problem I have with 2 is the implementation of bullet time, having max sprint around at super speed to the point where he can run right up into the faces of goons and blast them just looks and feels stupid, mechanic jumped the shark which is a serious problem because you use it constantly.
otherwise the supporting story stuff I like fine, the mona storyline is classic noir and they earn it with the brutality of the ending. as far as the gripe about the returning side characters becoming main characters feeling hokey I only really felt that was true of vinny, mona and vlad make sense to build a sequel around.
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>>12427097
Fucking kek I completely forgot he was in it
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>>12426683
>max payne 2: fall of max payne
>you now realize they referring to max payne, the series
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Max Payne 2's gameplay is a lot better than the first game, that alone makes it more replayable to me, and fun.
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>>12429727
The fact I don't have to waste time walking thin line passages while a baby screams in my fucking ear multiple times per playthrough makes the 2nd game better for me. Every one of Max's dream/drug sequences in the 2nd game is far less annoying than those three in the first game.

Once again I must shill the mods for MP2. I don't know if it ever got a Kung-Fu mod like the first game, but there are two mods in particular that really make for fun times. The Punisher mod and the Gun-Kata mod. Not the finished Hall of Mirrors mod that recreates the final battle scene from Equilibrium, the incomplete Gun-Kata mod that just adds the Cleric guns to the game.
The Punisher mod modifies every single gun in the game to be more lethal, do more damage, shoot faster, etc. This increases the difficulty of the entire game on every difficulty level. I played the game to death and I still struggled to pull off a win on the hardest difficulty with this mod. The part where you have to protect Max as Mona required nearly perfect reflexes and memorization of where every enemy was going to come from. This works very well to counteract the bullet-time's neutering effect on the difficulty. For best results unlock the hardest difficulty first, then apply the mod. Play on hardest difficulty, and enjoy the wake-up call. Don't be surprised if you get torn up in the hospital.
The Gun-Kata mod just gives you dual full-auto pistols with 200-round magazines that sends enemies flying, infinite bullet-time, and changes the dodge button to a Gun-Kata button where you do a different Gun-Kata and shoot in different directions depending on which direction you press with it. Just a word of warning, you'll want to turn your sound off before playing. They put in the techno music from the Matrix on full blast whenever bullet-time is active, and it gets annoying fast. Still fun to see just how many enemies you can defeat with Gun-Kata's alone, since you are bulletproof when doing one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMXztVGonc
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It can't be anything more than a game for SEGA sickos. If I would suggest playing this, it would be with a gamer friend next to you after you two crack a couple beers.
Or failing that, watch a Let's Play since that'd be a layer of magnitude more entertaining.
Still, I'll tip my hat off to the translator. I say fuck off with all that esoteric japanese-only shit, but if there's esoteric japanese-only shit that deserves a bit of attention, it's this game I guess.
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>>12429658
>I'll tip my hat off to the translator
just open chatgpt and say thank you lol
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>>12429658
It's a game for fans.
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>>12429515
Surprisingly pretty rich for a cheap budget game by a dying company.
I wonder if the translation did anything to make the unavailable games available? Probably not.
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>>12429515
it's a quirky, simple RPG. >>12418831

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Dreamland 3 might not be the best Kirby game, but it has the most SOVL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvJ1J4XZ9gk
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>>12429579
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/7595/
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>>12429568
Just play the 3D Classics version on 3DS. Problem solved.
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>>12429593
If you play it this way, you didn't beat the game
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>>12429605
Not retro
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>>12429564
Honestly disagree on both accounts.

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Wanna hear a Chinese proverb?
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>>12429150
No. You just don't know enough about it or the culture it came from.
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>>12429174
In other words it’s a weeb thing.
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>>12429217
No, I'm not talking about Japanese culture, I'm talking about their poetry culture specifically. Haiku were a social activity in a lot of circumstances, where people would write them jointly. It's hard to explain since I'm assuming you don't know much about the actual structure of a haiku beyond the mora count (which is fair, why would you). What specifically do you find stupid about them?
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>>12429217
Yeah? And I, as a native English speaker, find iambic pentameter to be utter nonsense that has no real definition since the "rule" of having 5 beats (10 syllables) is more like a loose guideline no one cares about and you instead wind up with people writing whatever with any arbitrary syllable count and rhythm and going "uhh yeah bro this is iambic pentameter trust me bro".
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>>12422590
if you're prompted to imagine a long legged Chinese girl, and next you imagine a long legged Japanese girl, the NTSC-J model will be longer legged. try it yourself if you don't believe me.

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Which one was better in hindsight? And is there any difference in games you can play on them if you mod both?
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>>12425823
Snes. The sega mini is fine but it has even less games than the genesis compilations sega publishes for every console. Well, it has sega Tetris and something else, space harrier 2?, but they aren't much imo. That Tetris sucks btw. >>12425825
I've got both consoles and a decent library of games but these a great for comfortable playing while your actual hardware is in storage. That was and is the key selling point for me, I've got the nes, SNES, genesis, PlayStation and pc engine minis and I don't regret buying them. The PlayStation mini is great for a cheap emulation box, but it's total shit otherwise. Kinda bummed I missed out on the genesis mini 2, but it's honestly cheaper now just to get a burned CD if I really have to play the sega CD.
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>>12426027
>I couldn’t find any evidence to this and they seem to use almost identical chipsets, is it a software issue?
Well for one, in the snes mini there is a function that lets you go backwards in video games up to sometime. There is no function like that in the genesis mini, also the games are better in the snes mini and it comes with 2 controllers.
>I heard PS1 mini was bad but I thought mods fixed it at least, how did they fuck it up that badly?
They use the PAL version of games which runs with less frame-rates or at a slower pace, and it comes with no A/C plug and on top you need to add a USB key in order to make it worthwhile. terrible purchase, just get yourself a snes mini instead.
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>>12427384
>The sega mini is fine but it has even less games than the genesis compilations sega publishes for every console.

Actually the Sega Genesis mini had TWICE as many games than the SNES mini did. I can tell you didn't own one, or at the very least didn't do research before spreading fake news.
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Stock, SNES mini no doubt. I have the NES, SNES, Gensis, Genesis 2 and TG-16 minis. NES, SNES and Genesis are hacked.

SNES has better games, even though the Genesis has more games. Both work really well and hacked are amazing to play most of the games on the systems. Some don't work, but 99% do.

One thing I've found about the Genesis and TG-16 mini is that you can get four player games to work with a USB adapter. I don't think that works on the SNES one.

>Super Bomberman 5 5-player and Gauntlet IV 4-player are some of the most fun you can have with these things
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>>12426928
just like the real one.

The tile size of the Super Nintendo and Genesis/Mega Drive is exactly the same: 4-bit color index per pixel, 32 bytes per tile. However, the Genesis has a huge advantage over the SNES: Nintendo can only copy data from the cartridge to the video memory during vblank while the Genesis VDP allows VRAM updates during active rendering (plus H/VBlank) via DMA or CPU commands to a FIFO queue. This gives Genesis more flexible, continuous updates without VBlank gating.

The snes copied one of the worst flaws of the NES, and its the reason why super FX can't do games faster than 20 FPS or play videos very well; The shared CPU/PPU bus architecture, prioritizing PPU during rendering—fast VRAM DMA only in VBlank (~2.5 ms NTSC), bottlenecking coprocessors.

Super FX (cart DSP for Star Fox) renders to cart RAM, then DMAs to SNES VRAM: 8-bit bus + VBlank limits = ~20 FPS cap (2–3 frames to transfer one 256×112 framebuffer).


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