>>97177499
You'd be surprised by what DPS those weapons can do in cqc, many people do exactly what you do, but I've found in MW5 in particular is VERY generous with ammo, so my build is to take a half ton of SRM/MG ammo, slap that as a heat sink, take the medium SB laser and SRM6 stream, put your weapon groups as follows.
>RA PPC FG1
>LA PPC FG2
>2 SBML/SRM6S FG3
>2 SL/2MG FG4
Stagger your PPC fire, don't just double fire as the resulting heat spike can fuck you and I've found that more heatsinks isn't always better, as unlike tabletop you don't instantly dump heat and you suffer no penalties for heat. When closing to ML/SRM range use those and stop using PPC's, and if overheating use the SL/MG's as you'll still run negative heat though slower and I've found that some damage is better than no damage.

>>97177536
Realistically? Yeah. However the dumb as fuck floating crits make that a suicidal move.

>>97177558
>MW5 Marauder
Take out the AC5 for a medium rifle and use that tonnage for more sinks and armor, the medium rifle is a AC10/PPC lovechild with downs syndrome but it's range does match PPC's and it's slow rate of fire actually helps diffuse the heat. Or just use LL/Heavy Rifle for a all rounder.

>>97177373
>Things I dont like about this design.
Yet another energy zombie.
It's really gonna have to get physical to be threatening. This may be a feature and not a bug.
>Things I do like about this design.
4/6 Banshee
It's has a similar load out to the 3S. Downgraded the peepers to LL. Ditched the ac-10 and six pack. I assume because 4/6 ain't free. Would make for an ok succ war merc refit.

>>97177622
>energy zombie
That's the point.
>physical
Yes, you're supposed to plink away with LL's while closing (also acts as a main guns for lighter targets) and then either charge or get into fisticuffs to punch the shit out of a target while firing your ML's and if you lose everything but the CT you still have 2ML/1SL and boots medium style. This is what a Banshee SHOULD have been, a skull helmed laser shreaking monster that is a distraction Carnifiex but is also dangerous straight up. Rather than a anemic sniper joke or the 3S(which is a great "normal" assault mech).

>Alpha Legion requires wheels
>masquerade as some chump's plastic model army
>he painstakingly refreshes the paintwork on their armour, the machine spirits are pleased
>leaves them in his car without a single sentry
>effortlessly make off with the vehicle
>to this day he blames "a random car thief"

>>97173528
Ouch. Yeah never sell that shit.

>>97162887
this too is a lie

>>97173528
I had something similar
Had to get rid of all my snes, n64, gamecube, ps2, and 360 games.
As well as my warhammer vampire counts army, and a bunch of warmachine models.
I was horribly broke, homeless, living in my car, and had no room for it all, so it all had to go.

It had to happen, and the money helped me move into a house, but dam I still regret getting rid of it all years later

>>97174534
>keikaku.webm
>>97175565
It wasn't. I forgot to unload my trunk before having to park at the airport. Car was gone when I returned from my business trip.
Don't live in a shithole city, guys.

>>97174285
A quick shout-out to my favorite moment of campaign 2.
Only a few players could make it, so we did a one shot (one of many) that still would advance the overall story without leaving the rest of the party stranded.
First, the dramatis personae in question, the two MVPS
Enter Digby:
>Survivor from Campaign 1
>Paul Blart phenotype, fat, loser Racoon City Native
>Turned down by the National Guard
>Turned down by RCPD
>King of Stolen Valor
>Run by the best player in the group with the absolute most dogshit stats, absolute expert in company policy and bureaucracy but fuck all else
>Wants nothing more than to be a hero, absolute loser in his 'civilian' life
Tor
>obvious Umbrella Europe plant
>former GSG-9

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>>97174493
They engage in a four hour long (IRL) investigation of a resort-turned-evangelical Christian retreat built on top of a failed Umbrella site.
After a ton of sleuthing and a couple accidents, they quicken the draining of the scenic pond which was being drained due to a suicide where a few peeps drove their jeep straight in and died.
Entire pump system / housing unit now deflooded in the hole filled with BOWs who were personnel of a rival corp who tried to poach Umbrella's Operation here.
BOWs are light-sensitive, so initially none seems amiss.
UBCS command orders them to investigate.
They do.
As the team rappels down into the hole, they begin working through the site and collecting what they can, when it becomes clear the BOWs are all over the place.
As they begin retreating, the natives get aggressive.
>While withdrawing, Digby is stung by a creature and fails spectacularly, leaving him paralyzed waist down
>Committed to the Company, once he kills the thing he takes a bio sample and then passes it on to the team
>runyoufoolsdotjpg
>As the team rappels back up, Tor hits a complication on his connection with Digby from the last campaign
>Dives back into the hole to save the homie
>Digby and Tor fend off the BOWs with magnum and an AR, jury rig a joint rappel, and start scaling up

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>>97171913
Sounds awesome

I've always thought the little mention of a Nemesis prototype being too self-aware and attempting break out of an Umbrella lab that's in 3 could be a fun hook for a scenario.

>>97131870

Got a link?

Did anything good get submitted to the new scenario contest?

Also where do I find said contest?

>Looking at the Omenpath set
>Every card is ugly AI trash made in 15 seconds with less effort than an anime proxy
>Majority Legendary creatures
>"Enweb" is a mechanic that will never again see the light of day
>"Spider" and "Hero" types everywhere with no regard to card interaction outside of that particular set
>It's only going to get worse as more comic slop is added
https://youtu.be/L3G4NyelU2Y

>>97175581
because its too busy scraping data for chinks.

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>>97129734
Avatar TLA came up 20 years ago and was peak then. Now? Not some much.

>Have 4 Swamps 3 Duress opening hand
>Know I should mulligan because I'm never drawing a creature or any way to not get run over if they get a board presence.
>Turn 1 they play a creature, think I'm dead.
>They resign on the 2nd Duress.

Works every time. And it really shouldn't.

>>97176960
>using "They"
>gets an insanely rigged matchup in his favor
hello piggie

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Okay here's a "big cheap bag of soldiers" that I actually do regret not buying

40 Bauhaus, 40 Imperial iirc with sergeants and heavy weapons

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>>97171444
Does Mantic want the furry money?
Think it will work?

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Confess your /awg/ related sins.

I'll start to get the ball rolling.
I like the current Mantic dwarfs and undead.
And I hope that before they get updated they get archived as STLs in their Mantic vault.
Mantic is putting most if not all their Salamanders in the Mantic vault so the precedent is set.

>>97177640
That's historically accurate anti-asian racism faction, tho

>>97177606
I don't. They were really cheap, but I've never needed that many bulky spess soldiers. I saw people using them for 40k gurad armies, good for them.

make it england, why not just use the arthurian stories

>>97170836
King Arthur isn't English, anon. Wrong country.

>>97171999
>King Arthur isn't English
Then what country is it?

>>97174889
Arthur is, canonically, Cymric (basically Welsh).

>>97174921
Weird
Always thought he was english too

>>97176704
Yeah that's not a bad map.

>>97176794
Yeah, it's happened to me too. Or played a game where it looks like it's even, but it's actually 2 players who can fight each other first, they get stuck in, then the 3rd player comes in to wipe up the mess

>>97176631

That's what you get for playing Venators desu.

>>97176631
>beastman and bolter overwatcher get pinned down entire game
If only that beastman got access to a free Nerve of Steel.

>>97176704
I don't think that is a great map (and representing it on a graph shows why). The top two players are (or can be) ~5 squares away from each other after deployment, while the bottom player will be at least ~9-10 squares away from anybody.

I dislike 3-player FFA games too, you really need a smart scenario to prevent SOME kind of team-up from happening. I don't even agree that a team-up is realistic, because gangs in that situation wouldn't have a perfect top-down view of the conflict and wouldn't be able to make unintuitive-but-strategic decisions like a player is able to.

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Really enjoying my time painting MESBG minis

>>97176754
> how are you even supposed to track the turns and stats of each one?
You should be using BECMIs group initiative system eather than the more modern 3.x/5.x d20 initiative system.
And just write down a spreadsheet/chart of each monster and its HP, so you can just cross them off like a list.

>>97177398
Why do you call group initiative "BECMI initiative system" when it's when it was introduced twelve years earlier in Chainmail and is the rule in AD&D and B/X as well?

>>97176754
Just blob monsters together.
1 mini = 5 monsters of the same type.
Each mini has the combined hp and all the attacks of all its monsters, but will decrease its number of attacks as you decrease it's hp, for instance if that type of monster has 5 hp and you deal 5 hp, then it deals one less attack per turn.

>>97177420
"BECMIS group initiative system" because it was used in becmi and i know it from there.

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>>97177509
Got it. Now you know. (And you should really read B/X and the DMG since you haven't yet. They're both great for different, sometimes opposite reasons.)

>>97175540
>entire counterpoint depends on the assumption that the opponent won't stop your attempt to stop them because they have tons more stuff than you because you spent a fortune on a deathstar in a doombox and they bought some cheapass turrets and transports

>>97176964
Plastic legion unit/upgrade/primarch kits would be awesome, but for 18 legions on top of the other armies on top of the current release schedule? That sounds like a really thin and slow process unless they put their ass into gear, it might be like a new edition entirely by the time each legion gets one at all. All armies should get their entire non-legacy army lists in plastic first, I'd imagine FW resin will remain relevant for characters for a while yet as much as I'd love a DIY Consul kit that will never happen.

>just an mkvii tactical squad and an mkvii assault squad really

Won't lie, would also like to see at least MkVII available at least in one avenue or another. End of an era when their current Tactical Marine kit probably goes OOP by 40k 11th or some shit.

>>97174849
Dreadnoughts are fine, and you thinking the saturnine dreadnought is bad only expose how much of a nogames you are.
Or just another Fury of the Ancients abuser, seething about dreadnoughts no longer being the most OP unit in the entire game.

>>97175005
I like them, but my taste is bad.

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>>97177360
100 pts of Tacticals can kill 130 pts of Lascannon Tarantulas (so, 2) each turn whilst losing 2-3 people. A Mastodon can kill 325–390 pts (5-6) of Tarantulas per turn, every turn.
In fact, if the enemy brings 10 Tarantulas to block the Mastodon, that itself makes the Mastodon recoup its points cost in about two turns! Lmao.
Tarantulas are speedbumps, sure, but they're not invincible. Perhaps a more than complete barrier would be a battery of them around an Araknae's pavise as a strongpoint, garrisoned by infantry, supported by dreadnoughts and artillery out of sight. Now that would be a proper barrier...
...but aren't dangerous Barriers exactly what the Mastodon was built for? Such an obstacle would be a viable target itself, and the Mastodon would stop before it...and commence the attack. It would be fucking cool, though
>Dare you attempt crossing my Gate?
Hell,

>>97177505
yeah

if you didn't want to buy the metals, you were expected to freehand dragons on the shields

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>>97177307

I'm new to wfb, what do you factor into your considerations when deciding whether to build muskets/xbows, or different melee weapon types? I understand xbows have longer range at the cost of lower AP, but in that case wouldn't, say, most dorf players use xbows on account of lack of cavalry and low mobility?

>>97177629
I think crossbows are cool so that's what I modelled. In rare cases I might say they have handguns instead but that doesn't happen as much these days.

>>97177629
There's no shame in bringing a unit of both. Sometimes you want crossbows and deploy them to counter skirmishers and light cavalry. While also having a block of handgunners to counter heavy knights/armoured infantry.
Monsters get the cannon.

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>>97176110
the >discord is full of them

As others have said, ACKS II is specifically designed to scale from the individual-level to skirmish-level to mass combat. The main issue I have with it is that the mass combat rules require a hex grid, which is annoying and hard to procure at the right size. Also the wargaming rules themselves are a bit verbose.

>>97174351
That looks like shit.

>>97174351
These are the abstracted battle resolution rules, not the wargaming rules. The wargaming rules are part of the Domains at War book.

>>97174240
Yup, gothic was fun thing as planetary assult got rules to transfer fight from space to ground with determining point costs

>>97174328
Too bad both are kinda mediocre/bad games

>>97163167
It would be stupid to make AOS Total War right after Fantasy when 90% of factions are just remixes of each other
40K is the right step with way more money maker potential

>>97163436
how the fuck is 40k the test property to do AoS?
How does that even make sense seeing IF they did need a test property, surely Warhammer fantasy was already that to begin with?

>>97162396
It's not. Imagine caring what that idiotbecile clownrak says, he has so shit taste it's the stuff he hates is actually good. He is manchild whose favourite SM are losers wearing the color of his stained underwear, TYVM...

>>97171264
Hey, cretinbecile, AoS skaven alone outsold ALL of TOW, and that is despite GW going 'hell froze over' and offering TOW trash at prices 50% lower than all of its other ranges. QED.

Then there is the fact that the ONLY thing in the whole TOW range that sold out was Cathay, thanks to anime/asian diaspora, army that looks far more AoS than the rest of TOW (and can be easily subbed 1:1 unit for unit for Cities of Sigmar AoS faction). Double QED, kiddo :]

>>97169156
Which means it's no longer a money printer if every SW product is no longer a guaranteed success. You've invalidated your own argument

>>97173023
I think that anon is dumb, but to play Double's Abdicate for him: I can see a lot of the systems they're developing for space travel in TW40K being ported over to a hypothetical AoS game and their weird Realms. Ideally an TWAoS would feel like a hybrid of TWW and TW40K, where you have 3-5 Realms with full maps to conquer, but those Realms have weird teleport points between each other, with certain factions having their own faction-specific realm travel as well (Lizardmen and Skydwarves can fly between Realms, Skaven can tunnel, chaos can brave the wastes or some shit, etc).

I'm not really interested in a TWAoS game, but they could make it neat if they did it right. Granted, I don't even expect them to do TW40K right.

>>97177322
>Actually the guy who posted those threads here.
So it was always the same guy, despite your continuous claims that you are multiple people. Saving this post.

>>97177358
Go ahead. Ill stand by that i posted those threads, and the character sheets, but thats all i posted.
Every post thay you dislike is not a particular strawman, trollcow. I postef the threads and the character sheets because i didnt want /osrg/ to go from a general discussion thread to an echo chamber for a cherry picked contested definition of what a movement is. It foesnt matter how much you personally dislike a system and try to censor discussion, people will keep talking about it because its on topic and part of the OSR.

>>97177386
>I don't even know the rules of the game, to the point I'm unable to create a character sheet without glaring errors in it even on the SECOND attempt after getting corrected, but I care about it enough to try and troll the whole general to death.
Never change, fishfag.

>>97177386
>use the retarded catchphrases only one guy uses
>I'm definitely not the same guy though
>I admit that I did at least half the stuff I'm accused of however
lmao

You know what, I used to think separating the generals was stupid but now I approve of it just so you personally stay asshurt.

>>97177627
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fishfag is such an odious and revolting piece of subhuman refuse that he's managed to accomplish the unthinkable: bring peace between OSRfags and NSRfags.

>>97173903
>>97174759
Nicely done lads!

Any ideas for a good storage case for a bunch of 15mm minis? I was thinking magnetic if possible. Bases are all metal.

Is there a PDF of the new FoW Pacific book floating around?

>>97171362
>>97176479

Both are in Rick Roll Trove.

I'm wondering, though, if it's worth maintaining this Trove.
It's buried among the OP's other links so nobody looks at its content, and nobody recommends it when someone is looking for a rule.

And on top of that, we have idiots who post bad links and get their kicks from trolling rather than helping their fellow wargamers.

>>97177126
I'm visually impaired, so maybe that's why I couldn't find Checkpoint Charlie in the Rick Roll trove.
It's a useful trove, and far from a rick-roll in the sense of just containing a Rick Astley video