Has anyone tried the Marshall McLuhan method of only reading the right page of non-fiction works? I'm trying to figure out how to get through books quicker while still appropriately understanding them.
>>24944990>>24944998How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler. Read that. Ideally, you use the book in itself as you read as a practical exercise of its theory.
>>24944510I dont know if this works with books, but it works with horribly long "Am I the asshole? Be me, (27m), and my gf (16f)..." type stories that go off on long pointless tangents >read the first sentence of a paragraph>read the final sentence of a paragraph>skip all the middle shit The first sentence introduces the idea. The final sentence summarizes the paragraph. Everything in between is just pointless backstory about how seven years ago they had a watch that got a scratch in it so actually blah blah blah...
>>24945131I always do that on the internet, sometimes I won't even bother reading the start. I will just read the finish of it and not bother reading the rest of it.
>>24944510imma try it
maybe ill try it, but i think i'd be inclined to not-skip if i came upon an interesting part. going by the amount of references in his books this guy mcluhan read a lot
Have anyone else read Sex, France & Arab men here?
>>24946111I know Algiers is one of the destinations where Europe's left-socialist intelligentsia went to fuck boys.
>>24946111Your trips are more significant than this book topic. It reminds me of a paper I was assigned in grad school about the representation of Asian men in gay male porn videos of the 1980s. Who the fuck cares.
>>24946111Whoever wrote this should be sentenced to 5 years hard labor in a likely futile attempt to save their soul
>>24946111completely false, really funny watching trying to project their repressed sexual fantasies regarding blacks onto other countries where no such thing exists
>>24946111Spoiler: it was the Jews.
>evil cannot *uurp* create*plagiarizes Wagner's Ring Cycle*
>>24947983Germanic myth is called Germanic myth for a reason, and it includes Scandinavian, German, Dutch and English mythologies.
>>24948024english are not germanic and the reason tolkien stole was bc he lacked english myth
>the english will literally name themselves after a germanic people but then turn around and say that english people are "white" but germanics are not
>>24948034Are you talking about their Celtic ancestry, or are you drawing a distinction between Germanic and Nordic (which the Normans were)?
>>24948051celtic, normans were only a minority in the aristocracy
What's a book that will make me feel like I have friends?
>>24948040Pickwick Papers
>ywn watch Sergei Eisenstein's lost film Unterwelt, wherein a mad scientist shoots a ray-gun at deformed people
>>24944125Afaik the protagonist was based on Leopold Bloom.
>>24943580I'm not sure if that's from that book but there is actually an Eisenstein lost film called Bezhin meadow. It's about a Ukrainian man whose son is killed by the Soviets so he sets fire to the collective farm he lives on (ie Bezhin meadow). It was banned for being reactionary.
>>24943580eisenstein is so based broa
>>24943601it's good but it's just so long
Do you say Delillo or De Lillo?
I am reading deleuze’s what is philosophy at the moment and the part about the creation of concepts, the analysis of their components and the resulting impossibility of discourse in philosophy is blowing my mind. The discourse becomes impossible or at least fruitless because the terms and concepts discussed, although homophones, aren’t comparable because they’re on different planes of thought and have different components. So we think we are speaking about the same things, while only confusing ourselves and wasting our time. I mean the idea is almost trivial, while the execution and explanation is outstanding.
>>24946039sounds interesting. haven't read WiP, but i've found his (maybe related?) concept of the plane of consistency to be really useful for thinking about artworks and the miniature model worlds they represent.
>>24946235It’s applicable to most things, I guess. But in philosophy it explains why there’s is no common ground like in the sciences, a set of basic principles everyone can agree on.
>>24946235It's an interesting take, it frequently appears to pull from GS, Twighlight of the Idols, and maybe a few other odd parts where you try to move as quickly as possible, think as slow as possible, and sift even slower. The results appear just as varied. You could have 2 guys who tie their left hands together and play stickpin refutation, a sumo match, or just one guy trying to navigate a minefield. The key part for some of this for Nietzsche at least is that the concept is already there so instead of finding a potentiality you basically look for how actual but there isn't really a limit on this. Nietzsche claimed it could isolate specific instincts, you get a theoretical edge for the successive attempts.
how the frick do your formulate any concepts in ur mind.then
>>24947693It says that philosophy is basically just creating concepts, but once they’re established the discussion between philosophical school becomes impossible. Take e.g. a platonist and a Kantian: these two won’t be able to meaningfully discuss the concept of time, because the ancient understanding of time and the transcendental understanding of time are so different, that they can’t possibly talk about the same concept with the same components (which would make a discussion possible).
What’s the male version of this? I’m tired as fuck
>>24944030i finished this the other week, I don't really get how it's a femcel novel. The main character describes herself as being super hot, she's also inherited enough wealth to live alone in nyc without working. Aren't femcels poor and ugly? I'd imagine this would be more relatable to drug addicts than femcels, although I used to be a drug addict and the doses that she takes would surely kill a person lol
>>24946644>incels want high quality women that they can't get>femcels want commitment from high quality men they can get Both are low quality but want high quality. They would NEVER settle for each other.
>>24946838her previous novel, eileen, is about a femcel i.e. a smelly ugly weird antisocial girl and somehow that got attached to this one for some reason even as you say it makes no fucking sensebut then again incel is used for any misogynistic guy these days regardless of their sex-having status so i guess maybe it counts as the equivalentthe word they're really reaching for is "misanthrope"
>>24944422This, lol.
im reading this book this month so far it's ok very light read
So has everybody on this board just read Fagles' Iliad translation? I know we're all actively avoiding Wilson's translation, and I never see Lattimore mentioned, so I assume for everybody on here the go-to is just Fagles.
>>24938203no, i read chapman's
>FaglesSounds gay.
>>24938203Lattimore is the best, but Fagles is alright. These are the only translations I've read though, besides Butler's prose Iliad.
>>24940972Dactylic hexameter doesn't work in English, it's based on vowel lengths which are quite regular in Greek (and Latin and its descendents) but not in English. Poetry in English is based on stress, which is not equivalent to vowel length, so trying to substitute stressed/unstressed for long/short vowels doesn't produce pleasing prosody.
>>24938203I finished reading Pope recently (it was my first time) and I loved it.
ToT UOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>24947594>see this in forestwat do
>>24947649tell her to undress so i can inspect her body and then molest her. i wouldent raper her though, im not a monster
>>24946003Are there actually people who think Dumas is better than Hugo?
>>24947658That's pretty fucked up>>24947666Hugo is a better writer, but they both owe their torchbearer Honore de Balzac
>>24946003Also he basically just made her his waifu for his perfect gary stu author insert MC Marius.
So according to the books Lucifer Morning star looks like a Pure Blood Blonde Aryan while the Jesus Christ looks like a typical brown arab so whom will white Supremacist Christians Support, isn't it the question of the year?
>>24947425>according to the books Lucifer Morning star looks like a Pure Blood Blonde Aryansource?
>>24947632>Jesus was a half Italian/SwedeThe illustration on the left is dishonest though. Jesus was a Jew and looked like a middle eastern Jew and forever everyone will know this.But go ahead and repost the shroud of Turin as your proof.
>>24947425>>24947446And according to which book does Lucifer look like a "pure blood blonde Aryan"? It's certainly not in the Bible
>>24947521It's amazing how few people have heard of the Arab invasion. They think because it's brown now it always was. Just like Anatolia, north Africa, etc>>24947529Obviously anon meant during the time of Christ, not prehistory>>24947551>For instance, I think it is safe to say that whoever is behind that depiction of Jesus carries resentment towards Christianity in some form or another.It was made by liberals to dunk on red state protestants
>>24947880there are middle eastern people that are pretty white
After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper EditionStubbed >>24936451>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Nasu is technically a web novelist. >The first five chapters were posted online on Nasu and Takeuchi’s dojin website “Takebouki” starting Oct 1998, and the last two chapters being released at Comiket 56 in 1999. In 2001, part of the story was included in “Tsukihime PLUS-DISK,” created by TYPE-MOON, the doujin circle Nasu and Takeuchi joined. The story gained huge popularity, and the doujinshi edition of the stories saw release on December 30, 2001 at Comiket 61.
>>24948078elaborate
I've been getting a bunch of shoutout swap offers lately. But man, this business just feels hella gay. "Hello, kids, your favorite author here, please check out S-Rank Dragon Dildo Fucker in Another World by Obese Nigga, a pretty cool story I didn't read." I don't even have that many followers, why are they asking me?
>>24948150Are you in the same genre? Do you have more followers than them?
>>24948155No to both.
I haven't read a book since AI got big. Have you?
>>24947661Average Minakofag.
>>24947661I just finished the second Dune trilogy right as it was taking off. I read the Iliad and the Odyssey since, and now reading uncut Stranger in a Strange Land.
>>24947661I've read multiple novel length fanfcitions though
ever since ai i read less and less useful non-fiction and more and more fiction (plus copious amounts of ai written porn)
>>24947661I just finished a book bit h
Why yes, half page descriptions of lamps and countertops with the occasional interjection of brain dead criminals speaking futuristic ebonics. It certainly deserves all the praise. Were people really that bored in the 80s to enjoy this?I'm not finishing it. I feel my neurons dying in real time. I was right for putting it off for so many years.
>>24946610you haven't read burroughs or pynchon, have you?
>>24946610Neuromancer doesn't really hold up, mostly because what came out after took what he did and did it better. His prose is very jilted from what I remember. That being said the book is important because it invented a genre/subgenre. It's still a good novel, but if you have read other cyberpunk you probably find it formulaic without realizing that it created the formula.
Gibson has great imagery actually. Some of the best
>>24947771The prose is like the main thing I here praised about it these days since by this point every other cyberpunk story ever made took the ideas and story and characters and ran them into the ground
>>24947918>I here praised
What's the greatest short story of all time?
>>24944337Gogol's Overcoat
>>24944337Understand by Ted Chiang
I really don't know if it's the "best" - but Forever Overhead by DFW is up there for me.Here is the author reading it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiuz2L6AqdcA lot of commenters here are correct in that Borges is probably the best to ever do it though, alongside Carver.
>>24947902Jacques Sternberg was very good too. Sadly, not translated to english dor the most part. Read Partir, c'est mourir un peu moins [To Leave is to Die a Little] (1958):https://ciudadseva.com/texto/partir-es-morir-un-poco/
>>24947884Chiang is surprisingly good, but that's not the story I would've picked. Hell is the Abscence of God, Exhalation, Anxiety is the Dizziness of Freedom, and What's Expected of Us are my favorites.
Good night frens.Tell me your:>favorite poet>favorite playwright>favorite composerSo I have some new comfy suggestions.
>>24940941Pär LagerkvistStrindbergEdvard Grieg
>>24946316only spergs and germans like wagner
>favorite poetJUANA INÉS DE LA CRUZ.>favorite playwrightARISTOPHANES.>favorite composerMANUEL DE SUMAYA.
TolkienShakespeareBeethovenObvious basic choices, but I refuse to apologize for my taste.
>>24940941ChaucerAristophanesWagner
