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I wish someone would have shot me in the back of the head after I graduated university
>>25253178>>25253181travel is overratedwar is overratedTravel or go to war if you have an actual reason to. Don't travel just to be in a hotel and eat nice lunches and see a few museums and landmarks.the human experience is defined by what you don't experience as much as what you do. certain paths exclude other paths. all paths end in death. You'll face death regardless, so don't worry about it. You'll never be happy if you're always fantasizing about the path not taken
>>25250455imagine if you could read books in VR. Make them super huge- like the size of a fridge or french doors, and then you have to turn the pages... you can customize the background and seating...
i so sad and lonely
>>25252975how do you get government weed?
>the literal pigs running the farm unfairly>the sheep repeating the ever changing slogans>the literal workhose being worked to death>the donkey who knows whats going on but cant do anything about it (you)BRAVO GEORGE/ERIC
>autistic anon reads 1930s through modern 2026 lensahaha AHAHAHAHA aha!@
Why did Nietzsche hated so much Euripides? He claimed that Euripides along Socrates had introduced rationality in his pieces but there is nothing barely rational in a fucking deus ex machine (Medea), so where the fuck did he take it?
>>25252671Nietzsche was a professor of Greek and taught them both
>>25252729Nietzsche often wrote and likely taught about things he never actually read, at least not with any depth. Give me one excerpt that actually shows a deep understanding of Plato in any way, I'll wait until this thread dies because you'll never post it.
>>25252258In anglo terms, if Aeschylus and Sophocles were like Shakespeare, then Euripides was basically the G. B. Shaw of his generation.The most generous interpretation is probably that his idea of theater as a place to explore the human condition in general and Euripides's proto-Brechtian one, of theater as a way to agitate for ideological and political change that the author deems desirable are simply two irreconcilable ideas of what theater is for. It is a dichotomy that is around even to this day.Also, let's not forget that the latter school of drama was doubly controversial in the context of ancient Greece because drama was originally meant to honor the gods. Which Euripides clearly felt himself too smart to believe in.
>>25252853Not that anon but are you seriously arguing that he became a professor of Classics at 24 without ever having read a good deal of Plato, THE poster boy since time immemorial of what great Greek prose looks like?
>>25252878>THE poster boy since time immemorial of what great Greek prose looks like?That has never actually been the case.>without ever having read a good deal of PlatoI think he was probably well read in Greek drama, not in Greek philosophy, no. He obviously never read Aristotle for instance, and his reading of Plato was entirely surface level. In general Nietzsche's philosophical knowledge is completely substandard. He barely even read Kant for instance, very obviously from the few times he tries to criticize Kant. Again, go ahead and find some passage of his that actually showcases a deep understanding of Plato's works, his most commonly known criticism (topic of this thread) is largely sociological in nature, not philosophical.
>One of the most difficult cases is the intuitive introvert. The intuitive extrovert you find in all kinds: bankers, gamblers… The introvert is more difficult because he has intuitions as to the subjective factor, namely the inner world. And that is very difficult to understand because what he sees are the most uncommon things. He doesn’t like to speak of them if he’s not a fool because people won’t understand it… If the introverted intuitive would speak what he really perceives, practically no one would understand him. He would be misunderstood... They learn to keep things to themselves. You hardly ever hear them talking of these things. This is a great disadvantage. But in another way, it is an enormous advantage… For instance, they come into the presence of somebody they don’t know…and they see inner images. And these inner images give them a more or less complete information about the psychology of the partner... They know an important piece out of the biography of that person. So the introverted intuitive has, in a way, a very difficult life…although one of the most interesting lives.
>>25247743>>25248572neuroscience and psychology are both shit.
>>25251652> These will all be described in flowery yet sufficiently vague ways that way most people will go wow it's just like me!Go look up the type description for an Enneagram Sexual Four or a Social Seven and tell me how that applies. It would take a profound lack of self-awareness for an ESFP to mistake themselves for an INTJ.Your criticism, and repeated reference to the "Barnum effect", are only really valid criticisms if your understanding of the types has gone no further than the type descriptions on an online test. Tests will never be that accurate, but it shouldn't be hard to get through your head that the typology system and the tests you take are not the same thing. Anyone who has at least a decent understanding of this stuff will tell you to find your type by learning the actual theory behind it.>make sure to set aside 2 or 3 types as the Extra Special Ultra Rare TypesThis is stupid behavior by status seeking normies, and not an indictment of any typology system. >and won't ever come to agreement on anything cause they all possess completely different ideas There's nothing wrong with a little disagreement, but you can only say this because you yourself have no idea what you're criticizing.>the placebo effectI remember when this used to mean something.I really have to wonder what somebody such as yourself actually thinks a good measure of personality would be, because someone with such little tolerance for ambiguity and a need for "clear, defined, objective measurements" has absolutely no business trying to understand psychology or the human mind.
>>25252553Sorry anon, but you aren't that special and unique. You can be studied on both a biological level, and analyzed on a psychological one. Just don't confuse the two, they influence each other but aren't one and the same.>>25252946Good post, especially the >someone with such little tolerance for ambiguity and a need for "clear, defined, objective measurements" has absolutely no business trying to understand psychology or the human mindAs if that would be a remotely fair assessment of something that's supposed to include the subject's own subjectivity and presents obvious dynamisms. Well-defined, throughly static and supposedly perfectly objective models should make you immediately suspicious in this field, you would be dealing with projections at best, and a psyop at worst.
>>25252553You and your post are both shit.
Has anyone that knows more about jung than me looked into the Objective Personality System? Their claims and means of "scientific validation" are bullshit, but the framework itself appears to make more sense than standard MBTI.
Babbys first philosopher
>>25252889Died as a lonely schizo that got aids, he will be forgoten
i like how you said ithowever, i will not be prioritizing your girlfriend
>>25252951That's not a problem at all. Most of what survives from the pre-Socratics are enigmatic fragments that are studied in conjuction with what people know from Plato and beyond.Everything they make mention to that might be out of the scope of the work itself can be inferred, and the Hackett edition has helpful notes.If you wasted your time deeply studying Homer and Heraclitus just to hear>Remember that bit in Homer where Ajax fucks that dude up, lie splats his head! Bro... We should be more like that bro, this pussy ass dithyramb shit ain't helping us feel beast mode, know what I'm saying?Or>Heraclitus says love and like... not love are continually warring...bro it's eternal but change at the same time...DeepSeriously, everything they reference is just cultural shorthand to make the same point you could make with a Marvel movie in this day and age.We don't study Plato just because he's the first philospher with a full body of extant work, but because his output guides thinking through discourse in a method that's conducive to actually thinking about the world around you, from your perspective.There really needs to be a distinction between those who want to think philosophically and those who want to study philosophers. It's really not the same thing.
>>25252900Ben Klassen
>>25252889Not even a philosopher thoughever, second rate thinker and merely an aphorist.
thread of songs you think about while reading a book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27gTrPPAykpic related
>>25251993The Killing Joke song of the same name is the one that comes to mind for me for that one. I always wondered why there's a lot of Bongs who sing about us but we never respond.
>>25251993https://youtu.be/LB9lObWclFQ
Sometime around dusk in a gloomy city at the turn of the century
>>25252263https://youtu.be/_AWIqXzvX-U
>>25252223in the book he is mesmerized by usa and basically is a book of admiration of united states. he criticize way more europe almost pointing that americans are wild and ingenuous and free while europeans are constricted by centuries of history and failure. he says everyone who criticize usa is at the same time fascinated by it, which is true by the time is written. usa was modernity and everybody wants to be part of it and copy it directly from the source. the killing joke song is just a rage against the machine cheap political song. baudrillard is pretty nuanced about usa if not directly creaming his pants in the middle of the death valley. in one of his last interviews he said that america is not anymore what he write in america, and i agree with him. it emerged a kind of sludge conscience more like the european, european trying to be american have the compensation of americans trying to be europeans. there is no more modernity from the wild. trump is just a sympton and a parody of what is lost.
My current system is very critic-esque and not student-like, I wish I could deeply absorb and analyse the nature of a work through annotating it, especially with the help of simple symbols. Currently I underline whatever stands out or doesn't make sense (to me)
>>25251823Originally yes but as with annotations it becomes a thing of its own. Commonplace books serve the same purpose as OP, substituting real work. They are a collection of factoids for pseuds to rattle off when they want to feel smart. As OP they also only exist to be posted on social media. Tiny leather bound notebooks filled with indecipherable scribbles by fountain pens.Their usefulness is questionable too since they are from a time people didn't have access to books. They would go to a library and jot down useful information from books they couldn't own or quickly consult. Now we have instant access to the original work, why carry around inferior summaries? I doubt these people with piles of little notebooks ever go back to consult any of them.This is different than a normal study notebook of a specific subject like you would have for a college class e.g. biology where you take notes of names, dates, draw diagrams for better visualization, etc. which you constantly revise and consult in conjunction with many different sources.
>>25251904>This is different than a normal study notebook of a specific subject like you would have for a college class e.g. biology where you take notes of names, dates, draw diagrams for better visualization, etc. which you constantly revise and consult in conjunction with many different sources.I should clarify those differ from commonplace books as in this case they aren't a store of information but rather an active aid to the learning process. They are useful insofar as they help you retain the information in your mind
>>25251904>Commonplace books serve the same purpose as OP, substituting real work. They are a collection of factoids for pseuds to rattle off when they want to feel smart. As OP they also only exist to be posted on social media.commonplace books are a real thing that people use to learn, even if they also exist on social media as a purely aesthetic objectalso why is everyone so against girls posting pretty notebooks and annotations on instagram? holy shit. get a real problem. you sound like those boys who hate whoever their current celebrity heart throb is.
>>25250832Good and helpful post, I should get back to reading on paper
>>25252125No please don't
>I was half in love with her by the time we sat down. That’s the thing about girls. Every time they do something pretty... you fall half in love with them, and then you never know where the hell you are.Do you agree with this /lit/? As for me, I fall in love at least 5 times a day. It's destroying my mental.
>>25252791gorillions of jeet teenagers
>>25253052lets get them all in trains and give them a good 'shower' of that zyklon b death gascuz health
i like the vaginas of girls
>>25250871I like this art, who painted this?
>>25250871I fall in love and want to start a relationship with every beautiful girl I see that's also my type, but I'm no the romantic type to be honest.
Since there hasn't been any progress in philosophy and people are still asking the same questions, what if we asked an AI all the important questions (egg or chicken, meaning of life) and then compiled those answears in a book? We can then give that book to everybody to read and settle any misunderstanding about the nature of reality.
>>25252906This is already answered in the Avesta
>>25252914Birds are dinosaurs though.
>>25252906Which AI?> (egg or chicken, meaning of life) already answered by Monty Python.
The meaning of Life is 42, obviously.
>>25252906>Since there hasn't been any progress in philosophy and people are still asking the same questionsThis isn't true, it's rather great philosophy is for the engagement for only the greatest minds, the rest of you sad sacks just sit in the corner misunderstanding and crying about it. It doesn't mean anything. The only difference here from science is that they are deeply submissive bitches who are willing to believe bullcrap like evolution or dark matter if the people before them believed it hard enough.
Is it possible to write actual scary book? I have read many books labelled as horror/scary but it's either simply gross or boring. Does an actual scary book exist?
>>25253375There is nothing scarier than the truth.
>turn page>"boo!"
Post and discussion about any type of history book.>The Norman Conquest: The Battle of Hastings and the Fall of Anglo-Saxon England by Marc Morris>The book begins with the Saxon kings, specifically Edward the Confessor, and shows how England was in constant conflict as the English fell prey to both Vikings and Normans. In the north, King Harold destroys his Viking namesake at the battle of Stamford Bridge but immediately has to hurry south to confront William of Normandy at Hastings. His defeat, and the destruction of the Anglo-Saxon warrior caste, leads inexorably to William's forceful occupation of an unwilling country. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40229197-the-norman-conquesthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest
>>25253209Jews are always intellectually dishonest regardless of the topic. It's just more apparent with topics that are more politically and emotionally charged. But it was always there, even when you couldn't catch the subtext between their lines.
>>25253209>>25253215Didn't want to go there but yeah, blaming solely or mainly Germany for the War would be reductionist at best.Some amount of bias is inevitable, but I need a nuanced view if I'm to read a single book on the topic (road to July, and the crisis itself).
>>25251789Classical Greece 'till the Punic Wars is the most KINO age in history
>>25253274What about after that? It just magically got boring?
>>25252683That sounds like a good way to do it. And getting around to asking people about things before they die is important. It can be a good starting point, but don’t trust anything until you prove it with corroborating documents. Too many people like to say they’re Irish or native when they’re not.>How are you defining your tree?I have an electronic, online tree with over 25k people named. This tree is combined with my wife’s family, whose ancestry I traced in the same way, so it’s double the amount I guess. My initial goal was to take all of this info and research and put it into a written form that doesn’t rely on a third-party website to stay online to access. Because it’s so much, I’ve split it into two types of books. The first type is for recent ancestors and lines that usually stop in the 1700s or 1600s. This one involves less people and has a lot more narrative. It’s what my kids and family members will actually care about reading, if ever. The next type is for the gateway ancestors that spiral out into thousands and thousands of people going back to ancient times. This type is much more dense and more like a reference. It also deals with laying out the available evidence for someone being a gateway ancestors. Overall, it’s a huge undertaking, and it’ll probably take 3 or 4 volumes to do, but I just love doing it. I’ve mostly worked on the latter type, and the word doc for the first volume has over 350k words. It’s not even close to being done either. I know this is incredibly autistic and probably too much, but yeah.
>start reading a book about historical battles>keeps bringing up modern nigger politics I grow tired
>>25253397Lmao Bruh. The book is antiwar but not because Achilles was killed a bigger, he's a big pos himself and leaves the war because Agamemnon took his sex slave, that's in the first page of the book, how could anyone disagree?
>>25253410Was called* retarded as autocorrect
>>25253397Being a scholar sucks because in order to be relevant you have to treat other scholars' work as if they're worth discussing, even if they aren't.
>the virgin analytic: out, newfag. learn the lore and quit anyway. i dislike this.>the chad continental: it's all white brotherman dive right ini don't see how you can justify this
>>25251625the stuff he's paranoid only happens when a dude tries to gf a thot. like maybe don't try to have a seriously relationship with some chick with fake lips some strip club operator paid for, duh.
>>25251610But a double incone is the main driving force behind relationships.
>>25251787the jumbo mortgage is a suicide pact, until she gets a restraining order that he has to continue to pay for her housing, which she gets by accusing him of being literally hitler
>>25251507Damn anon... feels incredibly bad... feels worse than I would have imagined..
>>25251456>mathematics-fanatic Analytic Philosophers reportedly cannot name a single non-trivial example of a function satisfying Cauchy-Riemann equations
I've been reading Camus. In spite of me being a career doomer, it isn't really connecting.
Probably because Camus wasn't a "doomer," and you completely misunderstood him.
>>25253386>using smarmy quotations for doomer as if it's some abstract phrase that's beneath you Bit of a fag aren't you?
>>25253391There, there. You'll get Camus if you stick to it.Maybe get a 6th grader to explain the tougher bits to you.
>>25253396>smugness as a defense mechanismYou suck cock full-time, there's no doubt about it.
An old, Spanish-Filipino, SSPX tradcath told me that they used a Spanish translation of the English Douay-Rheims Bible in the Philippines for personal reading. I can’t find any data of this online.If any of you know anything about it, please do share.
You're looking for the "Torres-Amat" translation. Sometimes they toss in "Petisco"
>>25253159He’s primarily of European blood and I think he’s in his 70s.
>>25253244That would make sense. The Torres Amat bible is the one your probably thinking of. It's a translation from the same sources as the Douay Rheims but it is not a translation from English to Spanish
>>25253159Not to mention the fact that Japan butchered half the European (Spanish) and American (Mexican and US) population of the Philippines. But Americans and Europeans gleefully welcomed the Japanese into the club of Western nations but kicked out the Philippines which then had the largest Spanish, Latino, and American populations in Asia, kicked out from the league of Western nations. Even though Filipinos died in the millions defending and rescuing American and European lives in Asia during the Japanese conquest of Asia.The Europeans and Americans act like a father who butchers his own children (Europeans and Americans slaughtered in the Philippines) to serve them as meals to the sodomite who just buttraped him (Japan).
>>25253373It is the Brown Man's Burden, my sonto bear with quiet gritabuses of his paler chargeswho put him to the whipto toil as serf and sweeper— and suffer needless lossfor fancy and for lucreof cruel heedless boss
