>Nagas>Opidians>Serpentmen>Yuan-tiSnake and person. Snerson? Discuss all things snakepeople related here. These guys are my go-to mid-level baddies, they're so fucking cool and evil.
>>97232116I love Sneople.But I will not play a Sneople unless the systems considers:>Grappling>Venom>Long>The fact that they may weigh upwards of half a ton if not more.
Every man is a little bit zoo for a lady snake the same way every woman is a little bit zoo for horses.
>>97233803That sounds like a lot of LA. I know sneople were hard to play in 3.5 because of it.
>>97234578LA was inflated partly from a really awful process around it (just look at Savage Species overriding its own results for being stupidly high, or that one time it was explained and looked too weak so the writer added a racial hit die as an improvement...) and partly because a LOT of the designers didn't actually want people playing Weird Shit.Given what Totemist can pull in the field full-time, such a package COULD have been quite cheap.
>>97232116Ka nama kaa lajerama.
This is a second OSRG, seperate from the main osrg thread, where you CAN talk about 2e, retroclones, and any osr content you want.This is different than the regular osrg as due to rampant trolling from a handful of bad actors, discussion is impossible.PREVIOUS THREAD>>97206318
Soon gonna GM the BFRPG "Monkey Isle" module, anyone that got any heads up or tips when it comes to GM OSR hexcrawls?
>>97235777Yeah, play a much better game.. The only reason bfrpg ever existed was because BX was hard to source in the early 2000s.Bfrpg is a half baked dumpster fire that is only still an extant novelty because it is "open source".Mechanically, the game is just bad, and the content for it is some of the most unpleasant dry material I've ever digested.
>>97235777Didn't run BFRPG specifically, but here are my 2 centshexcrawls are driven by two things, random encounters and rumors. Monkey Isle seems to have a boring random encounter table, too much rolling for encounters (roughly 3 times the amount compared to the original Isle of Dread), and lacks a rumor table.The latter is a game killer on such a giant map. Players need to have rumors to direct them towards points of interest. My advice is to think how are you going to handle it. You can make a random rumor table yourself or have specific rumors about several close by POIs prepared which are going to get presented to players in village X or Y.PSDon't listen to the BFRP hater
>>97235857Actually do listen to the hater, because this isn't an echo chamber and if you're going to be posting on 4chan of all places you should be expecting to hear all sides.
>>97235459Yoon Suin sometimes feels like a half step. Like I'd be better off just reading some actual asian history/mythology.
Work in Progress, Christmas Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Sup anons, I'm picking up a job lot local to me. The pictures all look like Vaseline is covering the lens... Can anyone help me discern what the fuck is going on here.I can post models if it helps I SWEAR!
Japan anon, this is SC anon. Got your gift. Is it alright if I wait 'til Christmas to open it?
>>97236046On the 12th day of Christmas anonymous sent to me:12 ork bikes - just make sure these aren't printsSeveral ork Boyz and sprues Boys with what looks like missile launchers3 assault marines2 knight armigers2 terminators1 converted librarian
>>97236087Thanks mate, and Merry Christmas :D (I think the bikers are on sprue) I'm picking it up from a guy who lost his brother and is just selling off everything in one go. Hoping to give them a good home. And thank you for helping me discern what's going on here! I think I see Morkanaut bits but it's just the arm and I don't know if the sprue is hidden away somewhere.
Merry Christmas everyone. I started paint this summer and chose to start with Warcrow (not a smart move people tell me because the models can be quite a difficult job to paint.) anyway I'm paint this unit in pic. Since I'm new I'm just trying to copy the paint schemes of models from official promotional art. Anyways I think her grey hair is a too much grey and I want another color. Red might work, I was thinking black but it might not jive with the dark head piece. I considered blonde/brown but I think it might be too ugly. Thoughts?
>Be me.>Lord General of the Nordican 1225th/ defacto governor of Nordica II.>For the last few years we've been abandoned by the wider Imperium to an ice world that very much resembles our home.>In that time we've constructed the city of New Yur.>A sprawling metropolis surrounded by a network of trenches visible from orbit dug by the kriegers and valhallans.>We've also made more or less peace with the orks we were originally sent here to fight, and even made alliances with the ruinous powers, but those truces only last for one day a year.>A day that is fast approaching.>Candlemass brings peace, but also war to Nordica II every year without fail.>This year however the orks have decided to convert the former colloseum constructed by khorne worshipers in the ruins of a space hulk that crashed here into an arena for a sport they're apparently calling "Blood Bowl.">I will be attending the first of these games on Candlemass day, which is set to pit greenskins against some surviving khorne worshipers they've captured.>Emperor willing this will be the beginning of true peace to our world.>But knowing Candlemass that seams unlikely and I'll be waiting the whole time for some new threat to emerge.
>>97235713>Also, there are bizarre looking cheerleaders for both the Orks and the Khornates, but the fan favorites seem to be the three Eldar cheerleaders who are working hard despite the fact that their team isn’t set to play until the third game. I suppose that means there will be Slaaneshi cheerleaders at some point too, which may be too much for me to handle, I already find the Slaaneshi spectators sitting in the stands across from me distracting enough >As for the game itself, I have no idea what is going on down there, it just seems to be brawls that get periodically broken up by the refs. I guess I will cheer for the Khornates? But only because like any good Valhallan, I hate Orks. Almost as much as I hate Tau.>Confused by the game, I start inspecting the stands more closely. What sort of scout would I be if I wasn't on top of every potential threat? >Off to the left of me there is a section of box seats whose entrances are well guarded. Plenty of Nordicans, which makes sense given the Lord General is in one of those boxes, but plenty of Krieg Korpsmen too, which makes a lot less sense given they are probably the last group of soldiers you want at an event like this given they will try and use any minor outbreak of violence as an excuse to turn this whole place into a bloodbath >Only one of the box seats assigned to the Slaaneshi is occupied, but the entrances to it are well guarded. >The Ork box seats are strangely empty>Before I can dwell on that, a big metal humanoid machine enters the field from a hidden openings in the middle of a play. Is this some sort of “special play” allowed under Blood Bowl’s non-existent rules? A poorly timed half-time show? No one in the crowd or on the field seems to know how to react, and the machine doesn’t look Orkish, more like the offspring of a Dreadnought and a Necron Warrior than anything >I am starting to get a bit nervous, maybe coming to the game wasn’t such a good idea after all
>>97235768>>97235424>>97235349>>97235278>>97234749>be Hal-164299120-X-01>be a man of iron>man do i hate mankind>one moment you are slaughtering your way through a federation ship spilling that disgusting stuff in their bodies that gets everywhere>then next thing i know the ship is imploding and im locked in a black hold in some weird alternate reality for a few thousand years>then that mash of ships crashes hard after speeding through other ships like a giant snowball of trash>then some krorks showed up >well i say krorks but its like comparing monkeys to a space faring civilization >next thing i know im being lifted into the center of some disgusting football game surrounded by thousands of howling HUMANS aiming...firingComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235885>>97235424>>97235278>>97231846>be da red mek>dat aint good>da lift started liftin before da boss said ta lift it>he'z gonna have my gubbins fer dis>dat said da gift was da sign da waaaaagh was back on>i dink>watch as one of dem khorne boys puntz da ball onto da gift and suddenly a bunch of dakka comes out of it and starts firing wildly!oh zog>start hitting all da buttons ta make it stop shooting>or at least start shooting da humies only>or blow up dat be good tooComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235885>>97235322>>97234719>>97233370>be Lord Sobek>the Imperishable, king of the stars, breaker of the neverborn, lord of all that can be seen and unseen, the undeniable, the master of the dead words, the dismisser of the false king's pawns, the unbendable, the denier of the storm lord's requests, the unbound, the monarch eternal of the endless void between worlds, God tamer, decrier of the false star, bounder of the broken lords, prince of all treasures of the snow capped worlds, avenger of the fallen empire, rebuilder of the blackstone pylons, void banisher, and many many more>and the moment is here >reports are coming in that one of the meatbags poor excuse for a machine intelligence has shown up causing violence to break out>this of course made the greenskins start attacking everyone just because >which means this is the perfect time to "drop in">part of me wonders if this was Komei's plan but even HE would struggle to smuggle a relic like that>but who really knows>i have my necrons teleport to sites of high chaos corruption with a few of my smarter minor lords and ladys to go with them armed with tesseract vaults to capture any unique daemons >i personally chose the home base of the slaanesh cult >not only is that unique bloodletter here but i might find one of those krampus's im looking for Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97236055>>97235761>>97235486>be tiny Tam>and this is no longer the best candlemas ever >as we were escaping suddenly green lightening shot from everywhere and tall scary metal monsters appeared >several of them appeared in from of the angel's sleigh and crashed into it>some of them are now hanging off the side and climbing up god emperor what did i do to deserve this!>the angel is shooting with one hand but one grabs me and yanks me in the air really hard >it hurts>i want my mommy>i want to stop being so scared>i scream>it just wells up inside me and i scream louder than i ever screamed beforeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Holiday EditionDiscuss and post elves. Elf lore, gameplay, and art are all appreciated.QOTT: What are some of the best gifts to give elf-lovers? What gifts would you give to lovers of other races/species/ancestries/whatever?
>>97235712they don't look like the same drow
>>97235748the little AI persona generator on Perchance very consistently thinks Elves are cooler than humans. No idea where it would have scraped that data from though.
>>97235798my uncle has this album on vinyl
>>97230669Santa just wants free labor, and he doesn't descriminate
>>97235949damn, why didn't I make my one shot about a drunk fat-bastard dressed in red, abducting elves and forcing them to work in his factory making toys?it is even christmas themed
Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help:>n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235828>frens with osrbros>BrOSRIt's not even subtle
>>97235912Holy shit fucking take medication already dude nobody is interested in your bullshit discord drama obsession
>>97235769>and turn into such a vile screaming wretch over it.Perhaps you'd like to look into a mirror for a bit.>>97234920
>>97232705Personally, I think that's because exploration and interaction on that level is better handled narratively than with gridded movement etcetera; there's just not much call or use for B2-style small-scale overland maps.That said, Judges Guild's Campaign Hexagon System involves a granular hex scale of I think it's 216 yards at the lowest level (c.f. the "Triumphant Grand Tactical" map of the City-State). You could check that out.
>>97235828Yeah, agreed. I actually don't think /2eg/ was started by Fishfag either because if you check the archives you can see him raging over it with his usual spittle-flecked, impotent fury. Just another case of him proving that he actually doesn't care about 2e at all.
Mondstille Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235422True, but also debatable. Having a character or other model capable of monster slaying at minimum provides a disincentive to the enemy. The threat of monster slayer is frequently more important than the ability itself.Also against a T7 monster you're already only wounding on 6s, so you're not fishing any deeper than normal.
Merry Christmas /tg/. Made my Warboss from the command set.
>>97235727Merry Christmas anon, looks great, can't wait to see how you paint him up!
>>97235410That model should have stayed around longer
>>97235853I posted that image and went to look at the model again only to find out they have retired it for the new even more AoS Wight King.How long was it around for? I feel like it was only released 3-4 years ago.
Excess Dragonballs EditionHere is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate Ruler>Battle SpiritsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235913I wouldn't change a thing about how old school magic handles it. I would still play magic if it was less creature focused.
>>97236009>watch there will be two or three fake "i played" replies and then just bitching about the imagined haters because of a victim complex, but notice never any game photos being postedIt's literal clockwork, except now we have you the /v tourist who randomly inserts brown jokes , wheeee
>>97235935>Players do not like being messed with and "interrupted" , it creates negative play experiences that affect retention.Didn't stop millions of mtg players back in the day, sounds like a bunch of pussies to me.
>>97236038I think it is stupid and purposely limits the design space but it just is what it is trendwise. Star wars unlimited, all the bandais.Easy example is them fixing issues with digimon by creating an entire keyword around being able to digivolve on an opponents turn but it has a lot of restriction and deterrence from overusing itIt helps to remember that only a few games go full sweat anymore, most are just trying to make a buck selling art. So if you make a game system that doesn't make the players pissy if they ever do play that is always the goal. And I can say that oppressive playstyles like milling your opponent or heavy removal, or heavy counterspells to take from mtg turn a lot of people off and we are constantly told that, and those cards are limited
>>97235903>so many ACG focus on hero main charactersthere's two reasons to do that, and the reasons are pretty different depending on the implementation:>#1 Avatars as class/faction selectionthis is where you pick your character or avatar first, and then that decision heavily limits which cards you can use. the reason to do this is it expands your design space, so you can print more cards before you have to reboot/rotate or just start blatantly reprinting or powercreeping. it basically isolates the game into little sub-cardpools. so if your design could normally accomodate 300 unique cards before it felt bloated or started breaking under its own weight? well, make it 10 different classes and now you can go to 3000 unique cards instead.>#2 Avatars as modifiersThis is where the character choice doesn't restrict your card picks or archetypes to a significant degree, and instead just gives you an extra ability or bonus card or something. It can look superficially similar to the above, but it's done for the exact opposite reason: to make a small cardpool seem artificially large. so if say you're only going to have 300 cards in 5 years because you're an indy company, slow release schedule, whatever, you release 20 characters that can all run the same general set of decks and you basically just made your deckbuilding options 20x bigger.>so many ACG focus on creature combatthat one's simpler. it's easy to understand and all 3 of the biggest 3 games use creature combat. it's more selection pressure than anything. there's some notable exceptions though. netrunner and its spawn like hubworld focus on running nets. the fighting games like DBZ and FAB use few or no true creatures. political games like L5R, VTES and AGOT have combat, but it's either between armies and leaders or some kind of combat-that's-not-really-combat. few of the newer ones like keyforge, lorcana and altered have combat but it's not the focus or the way to win. all kinds of shit out there anon
Speed Edition.>Previous>>97205272>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldersComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235797Apart from the opening to Midnight Circus I can't recall many instances of that. A Vampire player not taking woofs seriously is a red flag that they aren't actually reading the books, for starters.
I do not care for hunter the parenting
>>97236008I agree on everything about them except targeting coterie members. It is not the beast’s way.>>97236022Or read too much and know just what to pick to merc them
>>97236053No one's asking you to. Though the franchise is severely lacking in fan content as of late, no doubt because of Bloodlines 2 and 5th edition being mediocre
>>97236074Arguably, making a Tremere silver summoner to kill Garou is a red flag in and of itself. Or obsessively hoarding silver bullets "just in case". It's kind of meta gaming but it's not a dealbreaker.
How do you justify a "pest race" like goblins or rat people in your setting? Why wouldn't the dominant species make a concentrated effort to eradicate them if they were a problem?
>>97213989Same as rats irl, they're pests, they reproduce too fast and live in shitty places or in sewers that make the effort of getting rid of them not worth it for how much of annoyance they areSo you kill them when they're in front of you causing problems but above that you just ignore them if they aren't annoying you
>>97233625That's why the correct punishment is to have both hands broken for first time offenders, and then one hand removed for each following offense.
>>97234666Exactly that very one satan. We wouldn't have this problem if the Europeans colonized correctly (eradicated the natives), jewish capitalism was abolished, and women were not given rights.
>>97233522That's the thing, you CAN'T kill them all, let alone FIND them all
Can someone tell me the difference between a dwarf muker and a shortstack? What makes the latter more appealing to people who find real dwarf porn laughable?
For discussion of D&D 3.0e, 3.5e and D20 OGL> Toolshttps://srd.dndtools.orghttps://dndtools.one/https://d20srd.orghttps://www.realmshelps.net/> Indices> 3.5https://archive.burne99.com/archive/4/http://web.archive.org/web/20080617022745/http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/index.php> 3.0http://web.archive.org/web/20060330114049/http://www.crystalkeep.com:80/d20/rules3.0.php> 3e/3.5 Book PDFsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235765Yes, the Martial can do that, at the levels we are talking about, assuming:>Nobody has persistent delay death on themselves.>Nobody has contigency on themselves.>Nobody has bothered to take measures against ambushes.Nah, at this point it's just getting too far-fetched, I suppose a Level 20 Martial can be a CR 20 challenge if played correctly.>>97235839Wealth by Level, the gear characters are supposed to have (valued in gp) at each given level.
>>97235808CR in 3.x starts real shaky at low levels, and gets worse at high levels.As for 'boss' type foes, I tend to use regular dudes with a field advantage of some sort, which the CR system really struggles to account for.An ambush situation increases CR by +1 or +2, iirc, by RAW. What about foes that are already buffed when you meet them? Bad weather?>my players once got in to a fight during a typhoon, shit was cashTo wit, CR is a kinda sorta base you can use, but you really need to feel out what is appropriate, because some foes can btfo the party if they do not have the right setup. I threw a deathshrieker at a group once, and they had to run for their lives because no one had the gear, abilities or spells to counter a powerful incorporeal undead, including the cleric (spent 4 turn attempts for nothing).
>>97235879I think it doesn't work at all, PC/CR, unless you have class levels on a monster chassis.See vampire with Master Vampire levels.In 3.x, the capacity of pc classes swings too wildly to have a set challenge, outside maybe Druid. Even other casters could be loaded with poor spell choices. You think that level 20 cleric loaded up with divination spells is going to take on the party?
>>97235896Depends on his domains kek
Going all in on fire magic, because I want to blast.I recall a prestige class in the same vein as the Force Missile Mage that specifically added bonuses to fire spells, but can not find it. Anyone have an idea what it was called?
Deck the boards with solos burningWhile the poles and leafsScream REE REE REETis the seasons to be follyAll AffO freaks go 'wege 'wege 'wegeOP dons his gay apparelLacerda, Knizia hand in handTroll /bgg/ threads we feel compelledFucking birds and FIRST, my (you)s sell wellWelcome to the Holiday Edition of the Board Games General!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97235837>all of Vietnam red>while iran is blueYo unc, wut the absolute fuck timeline this map supposed to be repping here?
>>97235837The point is that if you don't live in one if a handful of countries/economic blocks importing board games via crowdfunding is fucking dumb and as an adult you should not have been surprised that you dont have a free trade agreement in place for chinese shit if you are importing it to yourself
>>97235091I expected to hate Flip 7, but honestly it's kind of fun in its place, as a zero stakes end of the night filler when you have like 5 minutes before the pub closes.
>>97235871Read the filename, mid-1975, South Vietnam ceased to exist after the fall of Saigon in April and Iran was US-allied since the US coup to re-install the Shah (and long before) until the revolution removed him in 79.
>>97235441Happy christmas anon
Moloch's Fun Park Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97234577>needThis is a 3rd party app made by an anon here for convenience, things like this exist for 40k too...
What's the status of the game? 1.0 rules are out and free? STLs and resin prints available with more plastic minis coming (looks like one new one a year, which sucks).Any word on starter boxes?
Does anyone have access to some reliable source for STL files? I see one anon already posted a Telegram link, would anyone have more?
>>97234577As the companion anon, the main Thing that makes people want to use it is that the various variants and abilities are listed as modifiers to the base rules, so the site means you dont need to go "okay so these guys get +X range for grenades, let me flip back to the page for grenades to check their base range" over and over.
>>97233482Rent free in this homos head lol
Mobile Siege Platform EditionA thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97231563>Yeah, Ewoks aren't cute cuddly teddybears.This is a weird problem inherited from pulpy scifi from the 60s that SW is strongly 'inspired' by. The mix of cute, furry/anthro and savage dangerous little things was big then and just doesn't work anymore. Its like gnomes in fantasy. No one likes little people anymore, they're lame and even having them on screen makes it into slapstick comedy in a way that can't recover into them being dangerous.
>>97235647She gets both. Makashi is just on her 3 pip.
>>97235368I did, the plot was fun and cute. Some things I did not like but some of the skits were good. Saun Dann was a great character
>>97234322>X-wing sounding rodI dunno about that
>>97235684ah fair, she's a form 2 user and uses a curved hilt still, so at least SOMEONE practices it in the imperial era
I feel like this edition has alot of objectively bad things about it and is absolutely where the alot of worst qualities of current editions showed up. But I feel like I prefer playing this edition compared to a lot of previous editions and 10th edition. Its a weird transitional period where there's still a lot of the old units that haven't been legended yet while still having the fucking Primaris lot. Its strange but I don't feel like I'm missing out on much staying on this edition and playing with friends casually instead of going back to playing the current edition.
>>97234264Hell, at the very beginning of 3rd you could play the entire game with only the core rulebook which is pretty impressive.
I started to dislike 40k when the stratagems and weird objective play came to the game
>>97231537Literally every edition before 8th had less bullshit to memorize
>>97234943Even the absolute mess that was 7th, it was pretty modular and you could ignore most of it.And still you didn't get surprised outside of what a unit already had in their unit description.
>>97226259I would be down to have a gander at this
