Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to TSR-era D&D, derived systems, and compatible content.Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons as played in the game's first decade — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching meta-plots and a greater emphasis on player agency.If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started.>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94994969/#95006768>Previous thread:>>96671493Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96753020Here's the timeline.1974- OD&D published, Arneson joins TSR1976- Arneson leaves TSR1977-Basic Set is published, and Arneson discovers he's only getting 5% on the Basic D&D Rulebook which was sold separately, and not the rest of the Basic Set. 1979-Arneson sues TSR over this, with TSR arguing that Arneson should only get royalties from the rules he contributed to, and not for things like the In Search of the Unknown introductory module that came with the Basic set. Arneson argues that all D&D is built on his rules, he deserves a cut.Arneson wins, and he gets royalties on all D&D works, including AD&D.
>>96753227>Arneson winsWasn't it a settlement?
>>96753438You're right. Sealed settlement, with Arneson getting royalties on AD&D and credit on all D&D products.https://catalog.archives.gov/id/200185170
>>96750723>>96750650Sauron has only got. one. ballhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Has_Only_Got_One_Ball
>>96748607>Timeline in which TSR fails before D&D becomes widely popular>but D&D still popular 40 years laterGreat logic.>infesting the threadAww, sorry kid, does the truth bomb that there would be no "the thread" because barely anyone in 2025 would be playing a 50 year old rpg unsupported for 40 years hurt your feelings?
Welcome to Warhammer Quest: Dark Water.In this beer-and-pretzel adventure you control a handful of iconic heroes that wander the realm of Ghyran. This will be, for many casual players, their first taste the world of Age of Sigmar. Let's meet the poster boys....In particular, the guy in the helmet is the heavily armored tank that will be at the forefront in this introductory Age of Sigmar adventure, his name is Edmark Valoran, The Manticore Knight.Now here's the question:why is he not a Stormcast?Is something changing at GW?
>>96753827OR hear me here you can totally ignore the lore and just consider the dwarf a dwarf and call him whatever you want. Jimmy Workshop won't kneecap you for It.
>>96754401Thad trade marked names isn’t the issue he’s having.
Even Cursed City had the steampunk dwarf instead of a normie dwarf
>>96754362Cursed city had a fuck ton of production issues that really hampered the whole thing. Maybe they're trying to keep the box as 'simple' as possible, productionwise.
Some people are saying this is more like HeroQuest than WarhammerQuest. Im not really sure (its just 1 big room instead for hallways and many rooms), but i think we must wait and see.Do you think they will change a lot of rules since Cursed City?
(Wake me up) Wake me up inside(I can't wake up) Wake me up inside(Save me) Call my name and save me from the dark
>>96755188I think we should deport them now
>>96726028he is being whimsical
>>96755127jesuits are psychotics who worship the negro instead of jesus
>>96724639WotC's been hiring cleanup artists willing to work on touching up AI for over a year now.
>>96730582>>96730624FF had the advantage of being 16+ IPs with overlapping fanbases. No one game in the series (even FF7) would have sold as well as all of them in 1 set.
For discussion of D&D 3.0 and 3.5e> Toolshttps://srd.dndtools.orghttps://dndtools.one/https://d20srd.orghttps://www.realmshelps.net/> Indices> 3.5https://archive.burne99.com/archive/4/http://web.archive.org/web/20080617022745/http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/index.php> 3.0http://web.archive.org/web/20060330114049/http://www.crystalkeep.com:80/d20/rules3.0.php> Book PDFsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96754308Tactical Feats>a lot of them take several rounds to "set up" which already makes them worse than giga-power-attack one-shotting>rely on a specific set of circumstances, including oftentimes giving up attacking>usually the bonuses just aren't worth>example: Einhander, you need to give up Power Attacking effectively, or two-weapon fighting, to get a +2 to AC you could have gotten from Two Weapon Defense, tumble ranks, and fighting defensively anyway. >also Einhander: +2 on Tumble checks after you hit an enemy. Why are you doing that? Just hit him until he's dead. Or withdraw. If you need that measly +2 you're not a viable Tumble user anyway>also Einhander: hit an enemy twice, and you get a free action feint attempt with sleight of hand. None of these bonuses are very good, even taken together, and they don't synergize at all.There's probably a better example for my initial point, but I don't want to clog up the post too much.Ambush Feats>gated behind specific levels of sneak attack, meaning certain levels, at which point a lot of such status conditions are less relevant>also require you to give up ALL your sneak attack except 1d6, making them almost totally worthlessThey're easier to fix by specifying you only give up 1d6 or maybe 2d6 of your sneak attack, for that condition.
>>96754629I think we are in agreement on our sorrows of 3.X. We both see a lot of options that, while neat on paper, don't compete with the others. The power disparity of 3.X can very well be night & day, too.What about Skill Tricks, though?
>>96753540I would not, no. I would specifically want a high degree of compatibility with the good stuff from 3.x and PF1. It would be a "What if PF1 had much better quality control and more carefully considered revisions, maybe also software style updates and bugfixes rather than paper + errata". Changing the whole math scaling would defeat the purpose.>>96753557>such as psionics and incarnumNo no those are more different class frameworks. I meant like:Updating the base mass combat system (probably open mass combat by mongoose).Ship to ship combat.Elections.Debates.Trials.A more fleshed out set of example builds and an update of the construction system of Strongholds & Dynasties, working in more magical options inspired by SBG.Etc.Stuff that expands the gameplay and does a good job of it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96753557Redone alchemy and herbalism could be good. And better considered spell level assignment rules maybe, and artifice (golem building), and the like as well. Theres the "occult lore" book by Lemmbridge that expands on this stuff a bit, but it's implementation leaves much to be desired too, and deep magic for PF1 is okay but incomplete.But yeah. Lots of subsystems could use an overhaul.Even magic items. Why is there no dice rolling involved? Why does every magic item built come out exactly how you wanted it? (I houserule that one in my homebrew d20 system). But mine is a bit of a bigger departure from 3.5 in tone and gameplay loop - for starters it's point based rather than class based, and lacks combat XP and WBL.I imagine people would appreciate something that's a bit less of a dramatic change. And I'm always happy about more good 3.x material I can use in my own games.>>96753802Not even. Sunk cost fallacy is when you don't like something but you're too afraid of the coat to start over. 3.X has lots of content I like, just not everything. I'm looking for new 3.X d20 parts I like to mix in with my other 3.X d20 parts.>>96753540But to answer your question, I'm looking for improved compatible parts. Some people might want a whole system to run, but that's not me. You could use ORC, or CC, or some custom license. And then as you build more content you can reference stuff in the license you want. If you do use OGL, you could make OGL replacements for non OGL WotC stuff, but just reference OGL stuff from whomever directly.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96755180>>96755336These are both me. I just had additional thoughts.
The Saga Continues Forever edition>>96690892A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96754188You could, but I think their total defeat really takes the narrative oomph out of them being a triumphant democracy that overthrew the Empire. Which if any of us care about any sort of thematic weight for the series is a bummer. But I think there's room here to tell a compelling story. The New Republic fails against a First Order blitzkrieg, but the First Order over-extends its resources and declares victory too early without fully taking over regions they've deemed tactically insignificant while their forces are preoccupied with chasing down the Resistance. With their capital destroyed and chain of command in tatters, one can see how they assumed the New Republic 'capitulated'. But the vast amount of territory involved means the New Republic is trading space for time, rearming themselves enough to have joined in for the Battle of Exegol. You could make some compelling characters here out of war hero's that keep up the fight, and rallying remaining New Order worlds. Show that they didn't show up to reinforce the Resistance in Last Jedi not because they gave up on the fight, but they made a tough decision about not splitting their resources. And before anyone wants to poo-poo on the idea of trying to do anything cool because the sequels NEED to suck, Filoni already did elements of this with Resistance, the best part of the Sequels era that nobody has watched. >>96754203What happens in the Aftermath Trilogy I'm unfamiliar with it. I think Operation Cinder can be salvaged by just reframing it as an overzealous scorched earth campaign that was meant to deprive resources to the advancing Rebel forces- they just miscalculated how necessary a lot of that was, blowing up a lot of their own forces when they didn't have to. Rather than just straight up razing the foundations of their own territory that the Rebels weren't at risk of taking.
>>96753344by the Kobo preview, the speculation is only 6 of the 38 chapters are post-TRoS, and it's all immediate aftermath of Exegol stuff. I'd believe it's going to be a Finn or Jannah or Stormtrooper sequel era backstory, before it being something that genuinely add post-TRoS lore.
>>96755096Wait really? I was half tempted to buy the book just so I could see what Disney's plans are past the sequels but guess that's a bust
>>96755066>What happens in the Aftermath Trilogy I'm unfamiliar with it.Here is comparison of well written novel in EU vs Chuck Wendigo. Not mentioning that he changes the time perspective at random times.It has Battle of Jakku, so basically the key event of post Endor, and seem to have origins of the First Order, but apparently lot of it is in comic form, so not sure how good or bad the comic could be.And Operation Cinder was in it as Emperor's plan of destroying the Empire after his apparent death.>But the vast amount of territory involved means the New Republic is trading space for time, rearming themselves enough to have joined in for the Battle of Exegol.The competent writing would have made it true in TLJ, but instead it was mere hours after TFA and it was by that point firmly established that NR was demilitarised, and nobody believed for a second that Resistance could afford services of the rich arms producers who supposedly sold to "both sides". Then again, TLJ suffers from "Tell, don't show" which is the bane of good storytelling.>>96754884The issue is that the well was poisoned from the very beginning.
>>96755287In a week we'll know whether that's correct but it seems like a pirate/preview before buying book.
Thoughts on running a dark academia game? What is your take on this aesthetic? Advice?I'm thinking of runing something about ecret fraternities somewhere in Oxbridge, murder mysteries, and perhaps some occult or paranomral phenomena
>>96738951...thoughts on running a Frutiger Aero game?
>>96747562Jesus Christ, ask me how I know you're an ESL. It's "The Difference Engine," not the "differential machine." Go back to Pakistan. Also, just because something has cogs and steam doesn't make it steampunk. Steampunk is an aesthetic, same as dark academia; whereas cyberpunk or high fantasy are frameworks for storybuilding.
>>96754900>Steampunk is an aestheticHuh. I'd figure steampunk has been developed enough at this point to be able to be it's own framework, like its cousin cyberpunk.
>>96745337It's just an aesthetic. Think gothic architecture, librarians in tweed, early to mid 20th century boarding schools/universities, etc.
>>96751301What do you want out of it - Cyberpunk mechanics in a bright setting, or something more bespoke to the aesthetic's associated sensibilities?
>TMNT causing longtime players to hate Magic>not the Walking Dead>not Doctor Who>not Furbies>but TMNT, a well loved nostalgia classicWhy?
>>96754241>Final Fantasy and a lot of other UB make a fuck load of money>It is never steering back.Only if it turns out that the Final Fantasy UB wasn't an unusually successful anomaly. If Spider-man, Last Airbender, TMNT and the second Final Fantasy set do not generate a certain level of income the higher ups will start questioning the viability of UB sets.
>>96754464No shit?
>>96755152Maybe if FF was the first UB set you'd have a point, but we'd been jamming UB sets for years.Lord of the Rings was also a giant summer set, there's no turning back. Hasbro doesn't course correct any IP, they just crash and bun like transformers.
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magic: the gathering is literally, literally produced by the people who run the pornography website blacked
Exile edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>96743757>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>cos into STDs>playing that weird corners liferoot mission>opponent makes me go first, I try to chokepoint the middle>opp then double turns his chosen into my line and takes out my helms and riflesLost the game on the top of 2, didn't have anything to kill anything. Cav got roadblocked on the wrong flank by Abraxa and were out of the game. I just don't know how to play this game, seems like it goes this way every time
are there any recasters doing the FW chorfs? the ebay prices are absolutely insane
>>96754924I don't keep up with recasters, but there's a guy on ebay selling 3d prints of Infernal Guard that are almost 1:1 the FW originals
>>96754373>What if most armies got access to something gargant sized or bigger?The last time I checked every alliance had its own Mega-Gargant (from left: Order, Chaos, Death.)
>>96754436umbraneth would have been a way cooler faction than DoK, I wish this was the direction they took dark elves instead.
It's Da PDF Share Thread!Get ready to stuff your hard drive like a cosplay hooker at a con!STEP 0:<----- That image is not a PDF, it's an image, at least for now. Check the 4plebs link below to find the PDF.PLEASE READ DA FAQ BEFORE REQUESTING OR SHARING.It will answer 99% of your questions about this thread. If you haven't read it, we will know.STEP 1:Please exhibit good manners. Threads start sliding off the board after a certain number of posts. More posts wasted on being rude means fewer posts available for sharing.STEP 2:Request, share, stay awesome!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96754939/ModifyUsTuDie20 and yeah it was hit bad.
Does anyone have the new MGT2 Singularity KS campaign? 2nd book and the stretch goal adventure?Thanks in advance!
Someone kindly filled one of the items I asked for last thread.Still requesting the following for 5e fromRelentless fictionIf anyone has them to share.OutlandersOutlanders: Record of the Isekai WarsFarsia: The Maelstorm LandsChronarchsFor Queen Country and... Albion
>>96755004I think someone linked us last thread, the links were broken, we tried to tell them, and it got lost in translation, remember that?
>>96753959Hate to burst your bubble, but that omnibus, and 2 of the others pdfs are what was delivered as the final product if you purchase them on drivethrurpg. I have the receipt to prove it.
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96755128and we thank you for that. The new season of the anime is very cute, and enjoyable. Working on anything else?
>>96753541>This will inflict -10 avoid/crit to everyone looking at you because they’re distracted by your boobs.>No seriously that’s an item in this game.what game?
>>96755136oh I haven't updated it for the new season yet, haven't watched it. College is a bitch.Nothing else is currently being worked on, haven't really felt inspired lately.
>>96755156>College is a bitchI feel you.Oh well, stuff happens. Hope you find something that makes you want to make a jump for these days. Too bad Reincarnation Colosseum updates so sparingly.
>>96755145Tg emblem. Porn game, qq jump. Genderbending focused, with a side of mind control.Fairly hot all around, though the game drops off slightly when it starts introducing monstergirls because you’re not getting enough time to really appreciate each character at that point. The ending is also just kind of nothing.
Too Many Traits editionPrevious >>96656449>Basics Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/GWjTU9Uv>Anon's Locals Survival Guidehttps://pastebin.com/xXp5jShL>Fanmade PC simhttps://pastebin.com/u6aKrBSg>Official Mobile sim (Release Date TBA)https://www.digimon-alysion.com/en/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96754494you sure you weren't hit by an opponent's "this digimon can't do effect X until next turn"?
>>96747219Here's hoping. An undead deck seems fun. I've already been enjoying ghost.
>>96754103black in mtg and floodgates in ygo. i think the 3m and hk are cool, along with some fusions.
>>96754664Closest to most black mtg decks is purple for the reanimation and discarding your own cards to draw more cards. Not that familiar with yu-gi-oh. Try the learner app if you haven't and then maybe try the fan-made client to test the decks and see how you feel about how they play. Be warned that the fan client is sometimes wrong or doesn't work properly.
>>96754138Owen's deck is confirmed for the obligatory Liberator support in BT24, and there just so happens to be a Dragonkin-type mega that plays a huge role in Time Stranger that will probably get a card. Additionally, although every level of Aegiomon's evo line besides Elecmon is a Shaman, I think there's a chance that the Aegiochusmon forms might have rule box type support, with Red likely being a Dragonkin. Mostly because there's only the one other Aegiomon card, which won't be enough to carry a proper Aegiomon deck.But mostly, Owen's getting his direct support.
what's the worst dm you've ever had?
>>96750946>Don't know how to properly reward nat20sWhat system are you running? In My experience, there isn't really much of a need to "reward" lucky rolls like that anyway if it's something mundane like cracking a chest or forcing open a door.>Hearing there's 7 bandits at the camp, barely surviving the first 4 and then deciding to take a long rest in the 7 beds before getting wiped by the remaining 3I'm glad to know I'm not the only person this kind of thing has happened to. I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out the flaws in this way of thinking, just as long as you aren't being a huge asshole about it y'know?>Town guard refuses to budge on allowing the strangers into town with a tied up banditThis makes sense. The guard has no evidence or reason to believe the bandit is guilty of anything. As far as he knows, these are just some thugs with a guy they assaulted and tied up. I think it'd make sense for the guard to want to be able to more accurately assess the situation.Unless you're players are very reputable heroes, or there's a good-aligned champion/cleric in the party, pretty much nobody has any reason to trust or believe them in a situation like that.
>>96753022*your ffs gonna kill myself
>>96753022>>96753854your're*
>>96753022Running a NSR built off 5e called Five Torches Deep. It's just that my players hoot when they get a nat 20 and then I fail to deliver on that excitement.>I'm glad to know I'm not the only person this kind of thing has happened to.Video game brained PCs man. That's okay, they're new. They're learning.>The guard has no evidence to believe the bandit is guilty of anythingAu contraire, the bandit was wearing the Local Lord's heraldry, looted off a slain guard. The guard, seeing this, did not let the players deliver the bandit to the church, assuming that as a man of the Local Lord it was his duty to enforce laws rather than strangers and the church.
>>96754154And he hasn't marched in with his thousands of men at arms to arrest the party why...?
Where do you guys go to get your maps? I've been looking for some maps, and I've realized just how much of the art in finding, well, art is getting good at Google.
>>96754969What is a "battlemap"? You want a symmetrical arena?Maps for what.
>>96754895paint.net / pen and paper as neededthe restrictive nature of premade maps makes them unusable for me
https://www.patreon.com/posts/cropox-archive-97244810https://www.patreon.com/posts/79601648https://www.patreon.com/cw/morvoldpress
>>96754895>Dungeondraft and Texture PacksHonestly? Or if you just want to print off an image, using Gimp and a grid template is fine. As far as professional maps, they are often behind expensive pay gates with a few free samples to sift through. If you can stomach it, doodle image searches might work for a bit.
What I'd really like to see is a good city map maker, a mix between Dungeondraft and Canvas of Kings would be perfect.
>TTRPG Conventions What are your favorite games to run/play at conventions? What makes a good convention game?Any fun stories you'd like to share?
>>96755069>What are your favorite games to run/play at conventions?None. Convention games are always shit tier, because they have to cram a game in less than 180 minutes and they need to also promote some shitty new system that just came out in publisher's line-up>What makes a good convention game?Staying the fuck away from them makes good game. You can spend that time doing literally anything else.Just fucking imagine how fucking loud it would be playing in that room, with entire space open, not separated by anything and with high ceiling.>Any fun stories you'd like to share?Not with TTRPGs, no. Board games are fun on cons, however, you will always find people ready to try something new without complaining about the length of game.
>>96755069Hmm, how do I put this? Essentially, I meet and fuck sluts at ttrpg conventions.If you ever why you don’t see an overabundance of decent gash at cons it’s because they’re in my room taking turns sucking my dick in between me pulling it out of their formerly tight, now gaped, assholes.5E is unironically the easiest game to fall into at cons and then leave whenever you feel like. Better games merit playing at home with regular friends
>>96755099>>96755144dubs have confirmed these both to be correct and accurate
>>96755069Only one buttcrack?
>>96755210It’s ttrpgs, not MtG or warhammer
War Ghoul Edition>Previous Thread>>96742740>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldersComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>96754677>new discipline BSDo not get me started on the Tzimisce and how they swapped Auspex for Dominate. Tzimisce are above such a pathetic discipline. If you want to break someone to your will then you torture the fuck out of them, scry their souls and use what you find to torment your captives until all that is left is an obedient husk.
>>96753953I can't tell what Florida has got. >>96753965Mokole - not surprising.
>>96753953>>96753965What's the source for those maps?Also:>that Get of Fenris enclave in ArgentinaLol
>>96754779feel like this all happened purely because of VTMBand the funny/sad thing is Troika went out of business making that game
Got around to listening to the new HtP. You'd think with all the moaning about it in these threads that they had Fatigue recant his white heritage while flagellating and submitting himself to Filipino bulls. All that happened was he was forgiven his part in the expedition since he didn't know the full scope of it, and was told if he wants to be rid of the guilt and shame he felt because of the actions of his family he had to do good works and help those they harmed. It's a very basic WtA plot point, doing the honorable thing even when it's not the glorious thing. If someone killed your father, we can both agree the honorable thing is to seek vengeance/amends. But what if your father kills someone? What do you owe the victims? You can say you owe nothing, it just means you lack honor.
