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thinking about the past extinctions and impending future extinctions (some very soon like the 'akikiki) of hawaii's native bird species again
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>>5118984
where?
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>>5118985
And we're wiping out Manatees too because fuck not destroying seagrass beds.
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>>5117141
even the Hawaiian crow is endangered
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>>5123172
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/hawaiian-crows-alala-maui
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>>5118984
>>5122739
There's about 41 captive ones still.

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/city-birds-appear-more-afraid-of-women-than-men-and-scientists-have-no-idea-why/
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>>5123127
It's not "female voice" but higher pitches in general.
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>>5121513
>Cats prefer females
>Cats kill birds to bring to females
>Birds see cats and females together
>Birds now afraid of females
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>>5123076
They're definitely more "attentive", it's probably the higher pitched register (and women are more likely to do the "doggy voice"), they do that head tilt etc

Doesn't necessarily mean they "obey" better, but women's voices are vocally more interesting to dogs
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>>5123007
proving that the birds' instincts are correct
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>>5123009
NTA but:

"Ancient DNA evidence suggests that dogs were domesticated before the rise of agriculture, when hunter-gathers preyed on large animals. Dogs are the only animals that were domesticated during this period – all other domestication happened after farming became widespread."

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>>5115383
I love how they look like a baby and an old man at the same time
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>>5122896

theoretically, how feasible would it be to raise swamphens to eat in the united states
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>>5123110
We have chicken and we have Turkey. The options are basically overflowing already.
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>>5123884
it's said to taste completely different. why would i want a harder option for the same taste
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>>5123110
Why do you want to raise swamphen? Are they particularly delicious?
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>>5124056
supposedly it tastes like venison
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>>5124093
Venison is kind of a shit meat anyway. I'd like to taste them once for fun.
I once looked up whether it was legal to own and raise Moorhens in the UK, purely for ornamental reasons. I couldn't find any information, so I have to assume it is :[.

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>when you're toxic as fuck so no one wants to eat you and the whole world is just a fun place since you have nothing to worry about
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>they can be consumed after the feathers and skin have been removed and the flesh is coated in charcoal and then roasted.
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>>5123026
and they taste just like chicken
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It's poisonous, not venomous, so you can inject it. Bird = BTFO.
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>>5116704
is this a real book? too lazy to google
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>>5118433
yes

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Does it deserve it's crown as the "Greatest Predator That Ever Lived"?
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>>5122288
>The very discovery of Bloody Mary should've been the smoking gun that switched everyone to accepting Nano

Wasn't Bloody Mary inaccessible to most researchers?
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>>5123184
It was, my point was more so that the very knowledge of its existence should’ve put more people in the Nano camp. You don’t need a formal paper published to acknowledge some things. Like how people were talking about “Predator X” long before it was described as a Pliosaurus species. General consensus after Mary should’ve been “well I guess Nano is real and we’re just waiting for the paper to make it official”.
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>>5120930
immature T.rex was still a relatively slender and agile animal. It was probably hunting different thngs than its parents
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>>5118515
why would this be more effective than a large spear?
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>>5114125
mammals can cope all they want, but yes

*mindbreaks you*
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>>5123211
That's just my shoeprint.
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>>5123211
What if the modern paleodictyon is an entirely unrelated organism from the ancient one and a product of convergent evolution

COWS DEMONSTRATE FLEXIBLE MULTI-PURPOSE TOOL USE

Cows are now UNDENIABLY far more intelligent than cats and 99% of mammals. If you think it's wrong to eat cats, then you must feel the same way about cows and pigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGVo41MuLiQ

“The only well-documented case of something comparable comes from chimpanzees, on those – also rare – occasions when they fish for termites by combining the functions of the two opposite ends of the same stick,” Osuna-Mascaró told BBC Science Focus.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/cow-tool-use

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-ever-flexible-tool-use-seen-in-a-cow-suggests-livestock-are-smarter/
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>>5094243
Cat meat was considered a delicacy in Milan
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>>5094225
more and more people are admitting that the vegetarians are correct
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>>5104147
>the people who eat cats are overwhelmingly likely to be rapey psycho cannibals

Europeans used to hold cat torture and cat killing festivals well into the 18th century.
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vegetarians only want to talk about cows when it's a weakman argument and other animals are less problematic
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>>5123638
too many domestic cows are bad for the environment

The SPC website is broken. Anyway, I'm a little surprised how the forecast has changed for today the past couple days. It wasn't looking like much of a tornado day at all, now it's looking like it could be.
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>>5119007
kind of weird to think there are parts of mainland America which are still getting major snow storms
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>>5121236
depends as what you define as a "mainland". is it land-based i.e. contiguous 48 states? ok then it shouldn't be too surprising given how varied the geography is.

is it population-based i.e. east of the mississippi? then no those places generally aren't seeing snow in may
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>>5119367
more lightning pics
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>>5119007
THE BIG ONE IS COMING

EL NINO

OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE NINO:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2026/05/08/el-nino-forecast-2026/89929177007/
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last one died and i needed to post my duck
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i wish mallards were as easy to take pictures of there are some beautiful ones around here but they’re quite skittish
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>>5118574
honk honk honk, post more ducks and geese
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>>5120688
>>5120543
>>5118590
>>5118581
what's the red stuff on its face?
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>>5118574
someone post the magpie goose

Is there any evidence of actual parental care in non-avian maniraptorans? I think that altriciality is a derived feature of crown-group birds, and may be why they aren't extinct. Picrel top: an enantiornithean stem-bird hatchling from Burmese amber, with flight feathers, and it was a hatchling https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gr.2017.06.001 Picrel bottom: megapode hatchlings, fowl that are secondarily superprecocial and lay eggs in mounds of rotting mulch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbxpmCp5Mm8

Were non-avian maniraptorans similar to modern megapodes? See video

https://www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/G104/lectures/104babies.html

>In primitive modern birds it is the male rather than the female which broods the nest: paternal care. These nests are laid by multiple females. In these paternal care cases, the male rather than the female typically watches over the young after they hatch. When plotted against body size, the volume of eggs of nests of dromaeosaurids, troodontids, and oviraptorosaurs more closely resembles the pattern seen in paternal caring birds than in maternal caring or biparental caring birds; .... And indeed the statistics supporting the paternal care hypothesis in non-avian pennaraptorans has been called into question.

Literally megapodes

If you check the wiki page for Deionychus it mentions this http://dx.doi.org/10.3374/0079-032X(2007)48[103:AROCPH]2.0.CO;2

>it appears that what is found is consistent with Deinonychus having a Komodo or crocodile-like feeding strategy. Deinonychus skeletal remains found at these sites are from subadults, with missing parts consistent with having been eaten by other Deinonychus.

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>>5119408
>>5119413
So what you’re saying is they’re not like movie monsters – they’re just like real animals?
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>>5119413
can any fish be considered pack hunters?
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>>5119413
>Is mammal-like dromaeosaurid pack-hunting also bullshit?
yes
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>>5119408
most non-mammals are shitty parents
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>>5119408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3fatzKL69c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiHcspO_cfI

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>"We often talk of saving the planet, but the truth is we must do these things to save ourselves"
>“Why wouldn’t we want to do these things? Giving people a greater opportunity of life is what we want to do anyway. The trick is to raise the standard of living around the world, without increasing our impact on that world.”

I don't get if he's trying to reach to public that doesn't give a fuck about life, or if he genuinely thinks it life doesn't matter and that the biosphere is its own god. How many more shots at producing intelligent life does Earth have? Parrots are dependent on forest cover, so are chimps. If people take their land, there's no more parrots period. I couldn't care whether people die or starve, I care when species are lost.

And what's the big idea of "developing countries into sustainability"? That's not real. Rules of capitalism don't change for the third world, neither does the idea that wealth is personal. If a rich guy in south america is failing, he fucks off to Europe to live as middle class, the fate of the continent doesn't matter to those who can save themselves.

Besides, developed countries are exhausted, with zero wild, only after lacking all wild they pass the cost of luxury to the human population, it's because the people have started to struggle that they stop getting kids, not because they become enlightened or some "standard of living".

Instead of shrinking with modern facilities, developing countries are bloating. Cities are on their way to become metropolis, suburbs are becoming satellite cities, and rural areas new suburbs. Deforestation INCREASES with third world development, not the other way around. To the entrepreneur, Growth equals new opportunity, new opportunity means free rein to exploit existing resources. Those resources become hereditary land grabs diluted in a legal cobweb.

I don't get how did the World Economic Forum start to promote that koolaid, or why fucking nobody calls it out as the death knoll it is.
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>>5123877
He isn’t proposing that we turn the global south into carbon copies of what we have. He wouldn’t be advocating for us to fix the suite of issues that plague even the most developed nations if that were the case
>>5123890
>Third world development isn't reducing the population
It does though. Look at India’s declining birth rate for example. Most of the third world countries you’re thinking of haven’t developed enough to reach that point yet. Increased quality of life, healthcare, education, etc is the most reliable way to reduce the birth rate
>Why is Attenborough defending such a flimsy proposal?
Because he‘s not a nihilistic 4channer who can’t stand the sight of a brown guy. It’s a proposal that would make people’s lives better as a whole even if that is harder
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>>5123899
>He isn’t proposing that we turn the global south into carbon copies of what we have.
No. He isn't proposing anything really. Because without proposing a different kind of development, he's pretty much proposing the only way of development we know of.

Didn't Bolsonaro threaten to cut down the Amazon because Europeans cut down their old growths centuries ago? This isn't some banter, sooner or later, or rather currently and progressively, this is being executed. The coastlines of Central America are starting to be replaced by luxury hotels and that's the brilliant plan. Mountains are quarried into dust to make room for the very eco-friendly digital nomads. Local forests have been razed anew for new urban developments including solar farms. Places like El Salvador keep being shitholes where the middle class dream is to escape the government breathing down your neck and buy you way back after cleaning shit in Italy and Spain (like US wetbacks did).

Instead of incentivizing policy that encloses and links greater extension of reclaimed wild, Big idea is to industrialize, bring biomass reserves to the brink of permanent loss, and wonder whether land owners would voluntarily give the land back or explore a new crop/resource to sell out of it.

Just remember, the population wasn't large when everything was a shithole jungle. It became large after industrializing.
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>>5123897
>Define struggling.
The near-constant cycle of brutal conflict the Congo has victim of for over 50 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congolese_Civil_War
> You have to be a shit for brains to not realize people get a ton of kids to help them in agrarian manned work.
Yes retard, that's what "if they have the option to" means. Most people in the Congo don't really have an option to feel secure in life or advance economically without having a large family.
>The case for Japan is obvious. Children, children are burdened to pass ridiculous entrance exams to study high school. Ridiculous. They go 6 days to school, from 9 to 10 to enter college. Most fail entrance so they go smell an old man's ass all day until he gets drunk at 1am because leaving home to fuck your wife is rude. Did I mention kids don't have parents because the parents are working in another region to pay for the highschool? Tell me if that isn't struggling, that's not "Standard of Living".
Except this trend is happening all across the developed world, including in places like Sweden that have robust childcare support systems. The simple fact is that people, when given the option to do other things with their life, don't actually want to have kids. Even with all the aid available not many people are choosing to be responsible for raising another human being, and the number who want to go through it more than once or twice is even smaller.
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>>5124002
It's pointless to keep arguing if you just go back to the challenged "statistical" argument. Let's hope you and all the globohomo fucks are right, because for sure habitat loss isn't coming down. Once again it only takes one nutjob at the head to undo all the protection efforts. Keep praying to the dollar.
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>>5124027
Meds.

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>farm whales for their milk
>make cheese out of it
>strap some extravagant label on it
>sell it to billionaires as an exotic culinary experience
>you are now filthy rich
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>>5117912
In most mammals they only need to give birth and be induced to lactate only once in order for them to lactate basically forever. If you keep milking something then it keeps producing milk.
Furthermore, lactation is just a hormone cocktail that the body makes after a pregnancy, anything with mammary glands can be made to lactate with the right hormones.
So, in reality, all you really need is one female and give her the right hormones to induce lactation, with regular milkings she'll continue to produce her own milk. Give her a very high-fat diet and she'll be fine.
It's certainly possible.
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>>5123325
meanwhile, AAVE bees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africanized_bee
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>>5123255
all dolphins are whales but not all whales are dolphins
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>>5123822
Whales are big, dolphins are not big, therefore dolphins are not whales. Checkmate, atheists
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>>5123431
Aquariums are able to keep and breed small toothed whales quite easily. Why don't we just keep a pod of only-female dolphins for this purpose? It would be a much better life than having to jump through hoops for food.

>Be dolphin woman
>Live only with your dolphin woman friends & family
>Live in sick-ass huge natural enclosure (or maybe even an enclosed sea water bay)
>Get fed by humans
>Get injected by humans
>Get pet by humans
>All they want is to milk my dolphin tittes twice a day
>Protected from disease & predation
>Happy dolphin lief :]

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Kill lobster poachers. Behead lobster poachers. Roundhouse kick a lobster poacher into the concrete. Slam dunk a lobster poacher baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy lobster poachers. Defecate in a lobster poachers food. Launch lobster poachers into the sun. Stir fry lobster poachers in a wok. Toss lobster poachers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a lobster poachers gas tank. Judo throw lobster poachers into a wood chipper. Twist lobster poachers heads off. Report lobster poachers to the IRS. Karate chop lobster poachers in half. Curb stomp pregnant lobster poachers. Trap lobster poachers in quicksand. Crush lobster poachers in the trash compactor. Liquefy lobster poachers in a vat of acid. Eat lobster poachers. Dissect lobster poachers. Exterminate lobster poachers in the gas chamber. Stomp lobster poacher skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate lobster poachers in the oven. Lobotomize lobster poachers. Mandatory abortions for lobster poachers. Grind lobster poacher fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown lobster poachers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize lobster poachers with a ray gun. Kick old lobster poachers down the stairs. Feed lobster poachers to alligators. Slice lobster poachers with a katana.
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Love me some poached lobster.

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Guys I found the real cutiefly pokemon
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>>5121294
What a cute lil dude.
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>>5122028
bomby lady...
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>>5122015
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>>5122462
Pokemon?
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>>5123920
That's Mewtwo, I think.


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