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Shoebill thread
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>>5024020
It's the predator eyes, anon. Forward looking, unblinking, calculating.
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>>5051470
Imagine seeing this mf in a forest for the first time. No one would believe you.
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>Tierzoo is melting down because people are mildly criticizing him
>again
How can someone be so terrible at taking criticism? He’s even lashing out at actual biologists that disagree with him. I guess having a cult like fanbase that gets offended on your behalf will do that to you,
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>>5081305
Uncommon animals do not have common names. The average person does not know enough about weird marsupial-adjacent south american megafauna, mesozoic shit, a generic looking but biologically unique bird family, or prehistoric fish to use vulgar shorthand for closely related and functionally similar animals.

If it’s not alive today AND well embedded in the public consciousness, use the scientific name, because it is 1: more descriptive (and more people will have heard at least part of its designation before than have heard a fabricated common name) 2: is easier to look up and will refer to the species even if its designation is changed because designations do not get wiped out by the communist party. In many cases the scientific name, or a diminutive form, IS the common name.

Normally. Looking at anti-white birders here. They tried.
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>>5081318
>Normally. Looking at anti-white birders here. They tried.
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>>5081332
>he doesnt know
Racist white men who discovered things got their names erased. Racist men from other groups, well… they werent the target of the specific tribal grudge.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4287345-dozens-bird-names-change-purge-former-enslavers-racists/
It is a highly abstract form of indian izzat.
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>>5080550
please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god
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>>5081297
using giant ground sloths as an example is really fucking bizarre because those are some of the only prehistoric animals that actually HAVE common names
is he just calling every giant ground sloth species "giant ground sloth" instead of like, "Jefferson's ground sloth" or "Shasta ground sloth"?


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Well? Which is it?
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>>5080422
Isn't it pretty widely accetped at this point that sponges diverged before jellies/comb jellies since they lack proper tissue and radial symmetry?
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>>5080497
All that means is that ctenophores are more derived than sponges, which doesn't tell you anything in terms of cladistics unless you assume those features are homologous to those of other derived metazoans (which is almost certainly not the case here).
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It's hard to imagine any animal going from a more complex muscle-based internal structure to anything like a mesohyl.
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clearly, porifers and ctenophores form their own monophyletic group

The origins of domestic cats — centuries before they conquered the world’s sofas and internet memes — have long been murky. Now, ancient DNA is helping to fill in the blanks, and the findings shake up the traditional story.

Archaeologists had thought that cats and humans began living with one another around 9,500 years ago in the Levant, which today includes parts of the Middle East and eastern Mediterranean, at the beginning of the Neolithic era when humans started growing crops.

Stores of grain attracted rodents, which in turn enticed wildcats, and humans found it useful to keep those mouse catchers around, leading to the cats’ eventual domestication. The oldest known cat remains in the archaeological record date from a burial in Cyprus from that time period.

However, new analysis of genetic information recovered from cat skeletal remains at archaeological sites across Europe, the Middle East and Asia suggests that the domestic cats familiar today have far more recent origins and were not the first felines to live alongside humans.

“We started to interrogate the bones that are ascribed to domestic cats that go back to 10,000 years and find which actually have the same genomes as the modern cat population that now dominates,” said Greger Larson, a professor in the school of archaeology at England’s University of Oxford. Larson coauthored two papers resulting from the research that published Thursday.

“It then completely undermines that narrative,” Larson said.
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Haha funny cats
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>>5078679
Oh, so it was the Romans.
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>>5078679
Why are they like this?
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>>5078676
Today is Caturday
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>take a fat shit
>get crackhead energy
for what purpose in the grand design

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Post pictures and your experiences or other writings of these much maligned and misunderstood Birds.

Anhingas welcome also.

Promoting Cormorant awareness and appreciation, one post at a time.
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Double-Crested Cormorant
Nannopterum auritum
The signature double crest only appears in the breeding season. And the already vivid blues and greens intensify during that time.
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>>5077020
such nice color, lucky fishies

What are your thoughts on beefalos?
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>>5080667
great starting biom, and staying close to the heard can help you with your first couple of wolf attacks
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>>5080912
tf you think this is, Vintage Story?
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>>5080866
Garofalo
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>>5080833
Wow they're literally me
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>>5080911
lewd

You shouldn't do neuroscience from the armchair, especially if it leads you to conclude that toddlers aren't conscious

People are taking swings at Eliezer for his claim that chickens, newborn babies, and other animals we eat are probably not conscious.

Eliezer’s views on animal consciousness are completely ridiculous, especially as justification for not being vegan.

Consciousness refers to having experience to there being something it’s like to be you. Eliezer’s view, in a nutshell, is that to be conscious, one’s brain has to engage in higher-order self-modeling. For that, animals need a sense of self, and so animals that don’t have that, and that can’t pass a mirror test, are not conscious. Similarly, before humans have a sense of self, he doesn’t think they’re conscious.

This view suffers from several big problems:

It doesn’t fit well with the neuroscientific evidence at all.

It’s a highly specific theory of consciousness with no strong argument in its favor.

Even if a person was pretty sure of it, they shouldn’t be sure enough to think that animal welfare can be safely neglected.
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>>5080437
Good thing it doesn't trully exist yet
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Not gonna read all that shit, but I will say the mirror test is a highly flawed method of testing for self awareness.
I would go so far as to even say that if an animal exhibits grooming behaviors, it has self awareness.
The ability to dream also requires a form of self awareness.
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Reminder that a stupid little WRASSE has self-image and concept of self and it's own body in relation to others.

The mirror test has no business being any standard for measuring self awareness outside of human developemental study.
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>>5080324
Seeing a guy I once heard about just because he wrote a big Harry Potter fanfic under his real name being talked about like he's an expert on anything is really hilarious.
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>>5080332
Funnily enough the vocally anti-factory farmers are more likely to be pro-abortion

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why did he drop the baby gorilla during the second charge shown?
my thoughts are he did it because even animals understand that ''parent carrying a baby is an easy target'' but ''parent willing to drop their child and fight for them is a huge threat''? (I'm just making that second one up but it could make sense)
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>>5079850
The gorilla was pissed off because he was carrying a baby gorilla and if he kept holding it this could have become one of the rare instances where gorillas actually attack people
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The baby died because the gorilla group had no lactating females.
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I think its theorized that it was because the baby gorilla wasn't of their clan, it was an outsider and so they saw it as a threat or something, I think they killed the baby.

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What the fuck was this asshole's problem?
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>>5080063
Fuck off, jew.

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OH N-
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>you realize its just a giant puffer fish
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>>5077874
then why doesnt it puff up, checkmate atheist
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>>5077874
>implying a giant pufferfish isn't the coolest thing ever
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>>5075222
>Also the sunfish in the OP is still alive
its shopped. original one is dead af.
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>>5079696
no it's not

If only we knew how good we had it
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how is it so bright?
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haha, so basically.. i'm not gonna do it! i'm not gonna stay in the prehistoric soup!!!! i'm gonna evolve!
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This was before my time.
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>>5081120
It's not worth it, brother.

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Had to put my dog Ollie down today. She has been in kidney failure for a couple weeks now. I could tell she was doing worse past few days, but she was still trucking. She's a stubborn dog. Today she took a nose dive. Took her to the vet and made the decision.

Pic was last night. So much life in her eyes still. She was a good dog. She's 14ish years old, so at least she had a nice long life. Sucks man.
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>>5079898
>cat hate is on the rise again
based. some aryan beast has been making cats unalive (at least over 20 cats that I know of) in the area where I live for months. one poisoned kitten appeared dead in my neighbor's backyard not long ago. and absolutely not a single toxoplasmosis rat behind the pizzeria since october. the psycho has to be a birdGOD (just like me)
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>>5078596
I've had to do the same thing for the same reason with my dog a few years back. I know how you're feeling right now.
Take care anon :)
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>>5079954
Birdchads and dogchads should form an alliance against the outdoor cat.
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>>5078596
Peace be with you, anon.
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they cant transplant a kidney?

Any nice name suggestions for my nephews new kitty? It’s a girl.
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miss nigger man
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>>5077998
"I have a bomb"

Whatever black is in spanish
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Daquarina
>>5078881
So close
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>>5077998
Carrie
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Did you pick a name OP?

>>5078000
Jeez what a faggot

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just one more tnr bro just fund us a little more just have to catch and release a few more kitties bro
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>>5080473
Is the guy who bombed the board with cp still around?
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>>5080607
Same guy posted in this very thread. 90% of all the consolewar is that one guy. He will deny it, but it is a fact.
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>>5080618
theres three, actually. one is paleoschizo (but xhe thinks someone else should be called paleoschizo and blames bugguy for everything), one is the schizo nigga, the last and worst who posts the most evil shit is some europoor with a qwertz keyboard, a cum stained desk, and a fluffy cat.
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>>5080351
Randomly abducting wild animals to mutilate them and destroy their endocrine organs is fucked up and cruel, even if they are a pest.
It would be more humane to actually kill them, even though I'd admittedly have a hard time doing that (and I hate cats)
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i pray for the day extermination programs are mainstream
tnr is such a useless waste of resources it's not even funny. either take the cat into your own home/shelter or fuck off, all it's going to do is kill local wildlife before dying miserably, you're not ethical for giving it a protracted death to avoid your own bad feefees.


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