kind of a messed up question but i was just curious. do you guys think cats understand the concept of fairness?if you had two cats, and ONLY gave treats to one while the other one watched, do you think they would get jealous? if you did this for a long long time, do you think the cat would hate the other? would they hate you?
>>5145206Fairness, no, probably not. >>5145407Honestly, 50% of his post isn't wrong. Cats are not anywhere close to higher cognitive level mammals. In fact they are the exact standard for no deviation from the expected brain-mass to body ratio in a predatory mammal. Groundhogs, for one example, display a much larger and more complex range of social interactions than cats.Now the retarded part. ALL MAMMALS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE SOCIAL ANIMALS. Repeat after me. > ALL MAMMALS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE SOCIAL ANIMALS. Again.> ALL MAMMALS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE SOCIAL ANIMALS. if you have to write it in ink on a wall and drive your head through it to imprint it on yourself, please proceed. Sociability iterates on the necessary relation established between the mother and the children during the early moment's of an animal life. If it has tits, it can be befriended. Its that fucking simple. Cats may not be "fair" individually, but the tom of my local colony always rounds up his troops when I go to feed him, and waits until I've fed all of them first before eating. He's been doing it consistently for a few years now, so my guess is that it depends on their position in a social group, or perhaps a successful colony depends on a smart tom like that, I don't know.
>>5145206Yes. I have a spoiled indoor cat, who used to be indoor/outdoor. She watches me from the window when I'm out in the yard in the mornings. I've been doing yard shit for the last month, for context.She started by lying down a respectable distance from the door and waiting for me to come in. Then she started getting more and more vocal when I'd come in. Now she found a spot in the window to sit and stare at me. When I get close to say hi while she's in her window and I'm outside, she shows expressions of anger/frustration/agitation. Her eyes dilate, she pulls her ears back a little. She's pissed and I think she feels it's unfair that I get to go out but she doesn't. :(Pic related, the poutmaster herself.
My cat gets jealous of the other one all the fucking time. She has a clear "I'm annoyed" right now meow she does when I call the other cats name for feeding. But I don't think any one of them understands fairness. They just want everything for themselves. The only thing they respect is each other's sleeping places.
Behavioral economist here (postdoc). Even if cats did, what makes you they would care? "Fairness" as an empirical concept can be tested, and you can see a variety of outcomes for different species. Cats, however, are probably the most honest and closest to the utility maximizing individual we always model in economics.>>5145367>superior animals>dogsDogs are mentally defective and fail to utility maximize for themselves, constantly cucks out, and are now little more than degenerate domesticated species with no ability for independent survival (probably why scum like you get off lording over them)
>>5145206You could look at the other cat's actions. Does the other cat happily eat the treats without any guilt or does it try to share?
Where would this guy be happiest? He's in my bathroom atm. I'm just trying to figure out if he's happier indoors, outdoors, by some plants, by the water, under a log, etc.
I think I have it. They're a click beetle and like like vegetation under trees and stuff.
You fucking idiot, what are you asking us for? Ask the beetle
How did the Ancient Greeks know about the Giant Squid when this is there range?
The same way anyone anywhere did: their dead bodies washed up on shore. ffs, the first photo of a live giant squid was only taken in 2004.
>>5147130This. Krakens are from NORSE mythology
>>5147105Autismbro, animal but big that eats humans is a fundamental basic imagination exercise that even very young children come up with independantly
>>5147162This.An eyeball the size of a basketball washes up on shore and a fisherman recognizes it as a squid eyeball (albeit fuck huge) so they extrapolate the overall animal size based on a common bait squid as a reference.
>>5147105>there range
Hares > Bunnies
>>5143359it's very long
>>5142021Does that make the Snowshoe Hare the best bunny because it's a hare or the worst hare because its particularly bnuy?
>>5145921The issue has already been solved here >>5142192. Bnuy can be both bnuy or hare depending on what flavor you want
I just hate the word hare.
>>5142021Rabbits have Hair, but Hares don't have Rabbis, so who is the real winner?
>actually echinoderms aren't radially symmetrical because of this off-center piss hole Bullshit-ass animal, get your spiny ass OUT of Bilateria
>>5144270They wasted their evolutionary history evolving into sessile formsSeriously, had a perfectly workable bilaterian slug thing going on and then they pull this bullshit
Like seriously, come the fuck on, this shit lasted until the end-permian? 200 million years of this? This is the type of shit that's supposed to show up like twice in the burgess shale and never be heard from again
>>5144266Nothin' to sea
>>5143920If you want to get real mad, go look at Velella Velella and Physalia Physalis' taxonomic classifications and how velella isn't classified as a siphonophore. Fucking god it infuriates the shit out of me.
>>5147300My one of my professors in College used Velella as an example of a siphonophore.Who decided that it wasn't one and why?
how comes tigers and lions look like bones in droopy potato sacks but other cats like cheetos are really shapely and fit looking?
Because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_anatomy#Primordial_pouchCheetahs rarely fight other cheetahs (or anything else, really) and have no need for it but other cats need the pouch as it protects the belly from claws and bites.
>>5147309OP might be retarded
Draw him in a Chinese outfit with a Mexican Sombrero please. He was a Pekingnese/Chihuahua mix.
>>5147035He's was a handsome you gentleman you fucking cunt!
>>5147039>He's was Uh oh, thirdie!
>>5146948>Pekingnese/Chihuahua mixWhy do people think mixing two dogs that have no right to exist will product something that does?
>>5147047I adopted him from the shelter when he was 8.
>>5147035Cute
Post raccs, save pics of raccs, discuss raccs! The critters have been gone from /an/ too long!
You are ethicaly obligated to arm local raccys
omg is that a heckin jimothy???
>>5147314Wholsome chungus jimothy might be cringe but i hope he brings a better reputation to all the raccys
It's funny how you can't really tell the gender 99% of the time.
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On my way to the fish store now.So excited.I know I’m getting some wood and plants. I might grab a fish or two.
I finally have enough money to go from freshwater pleb to a reefnigger tryhard.Anyone got ideas on saltwater coral tanks that dont look like rainbow vomit?So far, most corals individually are amazing compared to plants. But when they're blended together it looks like paint splatter on the wall.
My greenwater bowl returned to its original purchase-era density after a week of heavy fertilizing. Now my daphnia can explode in numbers again.
>>5147189Please help
My ~6 inch long, >4 y/o bamboo shrimp died today. I'm surprisingly sad about it, was always fun to watch it fanning. I know they don't usually live more than a couple years, but still.
Can eating animals backfire? Can animals take revenge on whoever eats them? And some groups develop an intelligence mutation and take revenge on animal eaters?
>>5142821Evolutionary, there is no benefit at all to avoiding being eaten by humans.Not only do the livestock species vastly outnumber wild animals today, but there are more millions of tons of cattle now than there were millions of tons of all mammals 100,000 years ago.
>>5142821Yes, you will "backfire" the animals after your digestive system has gone through the usual process.
>>5142821>Can animals take revenge on whoever eats them?Yes anon. Some animals are toxic or poisonous so if you eat them you die, or get so sick you endeavor not to eat any more of those things. Plenty of predators have gotten fucked up by their prey that eventually debilitates them enough that they starve to death because they can't hunt any more.
>>5142821Already has to an extent, but the answer is a yes and no. There's a reason why tons of animals fuck off immediately when a human comes near them but are fine around other animals. They're very aware of the bipedal walking mound of flesh that goes around killing them as well as it's tendencies to pretend to be kind only to end up maiming or killing them. An intelligence mutation; no. But do they pass on knowledge to each other through behavioural gesturing or social signalling? Yes. They have neuroplasticity just like humans do, are they the same as humans in terms of neuroplasticity to our level? No; but we also as a species have retarded useless babies that have soft fontanella just so their fat fucking heads can fit through the vaginal canal and cervix, and still so many human beings are absolutely mindnumbingly retarded despite us having evolved to have our infants be this useless just so we can develop intellect which is never used properly 90% of the time. >>5142856This.Humans end up killing whatever becomes technologically advanced, even when we know that it's becoming that way. Conservation efforts most often are not enough because you still have braindead retards going "UMA DELICIA" throughout numerous nations like in Borneo where they'll go and kill any intelligent life to eat it. Think the Orangutans or any of the great apes, or chimps. You still have people cracking their skulls in half to pluck out the brains and eat them like a can of foie gras. >>5144844Also correct, humans affect evolutionary development of numerous species by our hands being involved in practically everything. Both botanical, zoological and almost every other species.
Im thinking about getting a moneky as a pet whats the good type of monkey i could get in saudi arabia
>>5146312I don't have any on hand right now sorry
>>5146424I bet he was lipsmacking while saying this >>5146391 such a greedy little tree rat
Reminder: Beat the shit out of any Macaque you see.
>>5145236>monkey abuse BANNED>please enjoy our 24/7 AI CSAM threads insteadthanks ghislaine and jeffrey, very cool!
Remember that time one of the youtube monkeys (i forgot which one it was) died and the VO uploaded like 6 videos where he played with the corpse while sad music played in the background?
>at some point jaguars interacted with grizzlies and wolvesimagine those kino interactions
>>5141184You posted a massive load of bullshit. In most cases, predators do fail to take down their prey most of the time. The examples you posted are not their usual prey. Lions are the largest land pack hunters and the average weight of their kills are 115 kg or 132 kg depending on location. It's even smaller for other predators (For tigers it's 95 kg).>Orca x pretty much any large whaleDefine large. For the truly enormous whales, even though orcas hunt in groups, they leave adult male sperm whales alone and get bodied by humpback whales. That's an entire pod. One on one they have zero chance.>Polar Bear x WalrusPolar bears rarely hunt adult walruses. They'll only do it if they're desperate because the chance they get killed is far higher than the chance of a successful hunt.>Lions x Buffalos>Hyenas x Buffalos>Wild dogs x Buffalos>Lions x Elephants>Lions x Rhinoceros>Wolf x BisonUsing pack hunters as examples invalidates your claim, and the predators have the benefit of targeting the young, sick, weak, or old. One cape buffalo is dangerous prey for a pride of lions. Even a clan of hyenas or a pack of wild dogs is not a serious threat to healthy adult cape buffaloes. Same logic for wolves and bison. Lions are not serious threats to healthy adult rhinos and elephants. There's one pride that specializes in hunting elephants and they only hunt subadults with around 30 lions. A bull elephant would annihilate an entire pride.>Siberian Tiger x Brown BearThey target subadult or small female bears lethargic from hibernation. Brown bears frequently steal kills from tigers. Brown bears are dominant over Siberian tigers, not the other way around.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5147110Anon the person you are replying to thinks jaguars regularly kill 500kg caiman despite no evidence for that happening existing because "it just happens ok?". There's no point in explaining it
>>5140380one Jaguar is capable of taking down to full size grizzlies . these cats are OP as fuck
>>5146701cape buffalo is one of the big five, that means something if hunting them with a gun is still very dangerous, same cant be said for hippos though
>>5147135Stop trolling
Eg. spicy food and bdsm, sometimes together. We're literally the only freaks on this planet with pain related kinks. No other animal does this. Some social animals like lions and dolphins do rough play, but there's a social element to it and they're also practicing hunting. We're the only crazy bastards who actively seek pain.
>>5146679Because we're the best animal and can enjoy life in 1000x more than any other animal in ways they literally cant imagine
meanwhile she’s begging for this
>>5146679I was hanging a bunch of chili peppers to dry and they fell on the floor and my dog ate all of them. I wonder if she was immune or something. She didn't seem bothered by it at all.
>>5146767*laughs in Ed Currie*Caribbeans and Whipipo from America are the two groups who you should never trust a pepper sauce from. I can drink Balifire Sambal Oelek like fruit juice compared to the reaper sauce and Trinidad scorpion sauce that the white guys and Trinidadians pass around the lunchroom at work. Don’t get me wrong, the Trinidad scorpion sauces in particular are delicious, but a dime sized dab lights my face on fire for over an hour, and the reaper sauces are even worse. Sambal Oeleck is two steps above Cholula by comparison. The beaners run in fear of the whipipo and Trinidadian sauces.
>>5146679Burden of consciousnessBdsm is a sexual coping machanism meant to allow the participant to achieve control over pain. This is why there is no "bdsm inclined person" that also is 100% sane.
post mysterious looking animals
>>5145186Whoa
Got a carrot for me?
>>5129700So that's a thing...
>>5144887
>>5147133And it's totally legal.
