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I recently moved to an old house, which I will be significantly renovating, so it's currently totally cluttered with building materials and my stuff I brought. It's been completely overrun by mice.
It started weeks ago with just a few mice, I kept catching and throwing them out, but the were coming back, or new ones kept coming. I didn't want to use poison, because when one died it took me days to find while I couldn't stand the smell and I also watched a mouse who ate too little poison dying for hours. they unsurprisingly reproduced and now there's a shitload of small mice running around and droppings everywhere, I suspect that now there's probably almost 20 of mice total and I'm losing my mind. I now finally managed to find and close up the probable openings they used and I'm wondering what to do with them. I'd like to avoid killing them if possible, because the small ones are very trusting and even try to huddle up to me if I sit still (I know they're just vermin and I'm being retarded, but still), but throwing them out at this point is probably a bad death sentence anyway.
I wonder if it's feasible to keep them in a huge cage throughout the winter, but I suspect they'll suffer in captivity and it'd be more humane to kill them. if so, what's the best way to do it to ensure they won't decompose in various nooks?
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>>4907698
nothing new really. I'll probably end up keeping them through the winter, even though the whole house smells like mice already, because there have been nights with negative celsius temps every week for a month now, so I don't want them to freeze and I'm not sure how much time they need to find some place to survive the cold
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>>4907818
What are you going to do if they start breeding like crazy?
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Living with my crazy UDA dad. The home was was a frequent tourist attraction for them.

The thing is, my dad with his king complex, had every room except for the bedrooms, with rabbits, which probably attracted the mice. It also had an issue with flies.

Also, good luck if you know what the UDA is.

My Granddad on the mother side of the family ate the mice.
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>>4887433
>I kept catching them and throwing them out
They got back inside before you did.
Snap traps. Bait with peanut butter(thin layer, underside of plate, not a dab on top) Kill them. Anything you do to evict them will kill them, just take responsibility instead of getting hantavirus to prove how virtuous you are.
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>>4908313
they haven't for almost 2 months, probably feel too exposed and comfortable enough in captivity to reproduce (still feels like a less shitty thing to do than to throw mice that haven't even ever been outside to freeze to death). I read somewhere that they eat at least a part of every litter, before they open their eyes, depending on the conditions, so it was probably the case, as sad as it is. even if they breed a new generation during those 4 or so months until spring, it's still manageable and I can always just throw in rat poison to kill them instantly in one place once it isn't anymore.

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No /bun/?
Lets fix that

Sleeping bun edition
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gajumaru tribute
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>>4906382
if there are any femanons (female) reading this you are very pretty and interesting and nothing like any of the other girls i’ve met.
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what do you think they're talking about?
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>>4908700
A little rabbit of this and a little rabbit of that
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>>4908700
Riots

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It's the legendary Secretary Bird
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>>4884068
mental how birb throads are basically just skin and everything important is next to the spine
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>>4865878
slut
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>>4907537
They eat food whole, as a side effect it gives them a giant resonating chamber that lets them be incredibly loud for their size.
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>>4907888
Again, source or gtfo.
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>>4907898
>>4907899

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283496418_Niche_overlap_and_competition_potential_among_tigers_Panthera_tigris_sabertoothed_cats_Homotherium_ultimum_Hemimachairodus_zwierzyckii_and_Merriam's_Dog_Megacyon_merriami_in_the_Pleistocene_of_Java

>On Java during the Pleistocene, tigers of more than 300 kg occurred, but these are restricted to a single Late Pleistocene faunal unit, while Early and Middle Pleistocene tigers possessed body masses comparable to those of historic Javanese and extant Sumatran tigers. However, former studies have excluded carnivores from the Middle Pleistocene site of Sangiran where tigers co-occurred with machairodonts (Hemimachairodus zwierzyckii and Homotherium ultimum) and the large Merriam's Dog (Megacyon merriami). The aim of this study is to test if large tiger individuals occurred already in Early and/or Middle Pleistocene sites in Java and evaluate competition potential among carnivores from Sangiran and its consequences.

>We calculated body masses and prey mass spectrum for tigers and potential competitors using linear regressions. Niche overlap was then estimated based on the prey mass spectrum after which niche-overlaps were used as indicators for competition potentials. Reconstructed body mass for H. ultimum, H. zwierzyckii, M. merriami are154 kg (comparable to Homotherium from Untermassfeld), 130 kg and 52 kg, respectively. The niche overlap be-tween tigers and Merriam's Dog is highest (100%) while it is comparatively low (60%) between tigers and H. ultimum.

>Tigers have not increased body mass before Ngandong faunal level, but competitors like Merriam's Dog seem to have decreased body mass to avoid competition with tigers. The sabertoothed cats on the other hand seem to have been unable to adapt to competition and went extinct.
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>>4894711
Can you reupload the Dougal Dixon books?
I'd really like to see those.
Im pretty sure libgen doesnt exist anymore or something.
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>>4907842
seeing shit like this just makes me mad. This is clearly an example of some soulless ESL retard who grinds fundies 24/7 but has absolutely no imagination. "what if x... but really y?" is the absolute worst trope in spec evo. This is awful.
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>>4908317
Go to sivatherium

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How do farm animals survive in Australia's climate?
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Why don't they dig a bunch of swales to collect water?
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>>4908670
because it doesn't rain at all.
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>>4908023
Australia has tens of thousands of square kilometres of arable land but it's owned by trillionares and banks. Our government doesn't give a shit about our industry and self reliance just 4 years of cash grabs at a time. Even if 90 percent of it is unsuitable for farming and crops it doesn't matter because the place is gigantic. We fight like dogs over the 0.001 percent of land they allow the average person to purchase because it makes them money.
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>>4908036
I lol'd
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>>4908023
>How do farm animals survive in Australia's climate?

I'm under the impression that only a handful of domesticated/feral animals can actually subsist unassisted in the Australian outback: camels, donkeys, goats (sometimes), and water buffalo (but only in certain areas and only because they intuitively know where water is). Everything else is effectively a non-issue given the hostile and unforgiving native environment.

The sheep and cattle that Australians raise meanwhile don't actually live in the majorative desolate Australian biome, but in very specific little climate zones. See pic related, everything yellow is "kind of fucked" and everything orange is "mega fucked".

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Wild Tigers were discovered in Alaska
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>>4904298
illegal immigrants, Trump will deport them.
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>>4904298
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>>4904317
as april fools joke where?
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>>4904298
FAKE
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Best country for wildlife? I think it's America.
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>>4907590
Your post made me search for the Hahahaha islands.
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>>4907589
You mean Jajajaja Islands.
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>>4907377
africa. at least the lions are on par with the apex predator of the region
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>>4907398
This. So many of you retards are forgetting the Amazon.
>>4907408
You are extra retarded.
>>4907717
That's a continent, not a country, you fucking moron.
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>>4907730
>. So many of you retards are forgetting the Amazon.
Not even just the amazon. Brazil has (had?) so many biomes. The country is fuckhuge after all.
The Maned Wolf for example, is mostly found at the country's central region in a biome called Cerrado, a sort of grasslands.

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post art that features animals
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>>4903626
I loved these books as a kid. Looking back they are dark as fuck
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>>4866201
bump
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had halloween background because thread opened on the 31st
>now gone
>awwwww
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>>4905022

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its simple really, if its 3/4th of my weight or less I have a good chance to beat it up, if its more then 5/4th heavier then me, I have a bad chance to beat it up, if its roughly my same weight class, odds could go either way.

simple as.
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>>4907345
You're an idiot.
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>>4907358
What can an elephant actually do though? If you hug its hind legs it can't reach you with its truck, and its too sluggish to get away while you repeatedly pommel it from behind. If you stand to the side of its hind legs then it won't even be able to hit you with a back kick. If it raises its leg to perform a stomp then all you have to do is back off until it finishes its slam, then move back in to continue punching.
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>>4908880
This
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>>4908880
was waiting patiently
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>>4908880
Surprised it took this long

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ITT: front-facing animals
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>>4908244
>this bear has the unfortunate curse to freeze upon seeing gay people
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>>4908541
I wonder if that guy is still angry about that thread.
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gu
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How come /an/ never discusses walruses? Have you ever seen a walrus? How do you feel about them?
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Freya did nothing wrong
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>>4908763
I wonder what their poops are like. Probably very stinky and messy. Loose poops I bet.
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>>4908763
They're walright.
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Post seals
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>>4908056
God's animal rapes penguins?
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Enough is enough
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>>4908076
You don't?
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>>4908370
did he died

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I am from Belarus and only now have I heard the news of Peanut's death, it is sad. Rest in peace Peanut
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>>4908677
As the OP who is a faggot likes a gay man, >>4908818 is proof that anyone posting frogs is gay
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I am from Belarus and after three year save money, can finally afford peanut to share with village. We will good eating for the week.
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>>4908838
Very based. A true family man is a rare sight these days.
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>>4908838
>can finally afford peanut to share with village
>>4908864
>A true family man
can share roadkill squirrel

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This is a Cassowary from Australia. The most dangerous bird in the world. Put some respect on her name.
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>>4903844
>>4907038
Would you rather fight a cock, a swan, or a cassowary?
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>>4907158
If I had time to prepare I'd take all three at once.
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>>4907158
Cassowary, the other two I’ve already done.
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>>4903234
Ostriches kill more people

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If we nuke ourselves into extinction, Dolphins will become the new masters of the world.
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>>4891699
Dolphin overlords! Based!
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>>4891879
>>4891789
https://archive.org/details/Fantasy_Science_Fiction_v018n03_1960-03_PDF/Fantasy__Science_Fiction_v018n03_1960-03_PDF?view=theater#page/n27/mode/2up
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>>4891699
Cetaceans will never take over the world because they can't move around on land. They'd have to evolve into an unrecognizable terrestrial species again.
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>>4891735
this
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>>4900475
Archive is back up by now


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