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Could life on earth exist without predators? I'm aware of possible population booms and food shortages resulting in death of some or most species if predators disappeared. Would that kill all species?
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>>4779386
Based ‘anty poster
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>>4779176
Are parasites and pathogens still around? The ecological chaos that would ensue (especially in places like the ocean) would be immense, but I could at least see parasitism playing an even bigger role in population dynamics once a new equilibrium forms.
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Random Anon bumping 'cause I specifically wanna know more about this:
>>4779183 >>4779386
I've always really loved Dinosaurs, but have recently begun fascinated on how truly 'alien' the biosphere on Earth was before certain important organisms existed. Like, "how and why" things operated different in the absence of entire groups/families of organisms that are basically to what we consider 'Nature'.
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>>4779412
If I remember, there are some extremophile bacteria that feed entirely from aquatic volcanic runoff.
That's probably the closest you will get.
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>>4781197
i like nipples too

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Goats are the GOAT
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>>4779545
•———•
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>>4779536
Nice goats (and horse). Do the goats and horse interact with each other much?
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>>4779536
no prob, thanks nice goats and horse
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>>4779861
Around feed time I have seen my biggest female goat and the horse get “pushy” mostly everyone just exists. The horse and my Pyrenees interact more.
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>>4781216
living the dream, anon

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Was it autism?
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>>4777601
>They could potentially have greater capacity for emotion than other lizards.
thinking warm blood = emotions means you're retarded, sorry anon
ectotherms with more complex social systems like iguanas, rattlesnakes, garter snakes, and many many bony fish don't fit your criteria but do seem to have theory of mind
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>>4779524
>ectotherms with more complex social systems like [...]garter snakes
Tell me more about the theory of mind of the little guys in my back yard that I always feel bad about accidentally tagging with my weedeater.
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>>4780164
NTA but
>scientists got a bunch of garters together for observation
>noticed they naturally formed groups with specific other snakes when they nested
>shuffled snakes, changed hides
>the snakes sought out the ones they originally grouped with and picked out a new spot to hang out
>were able to categorize two different personalities, shy snakes that preferred to nest, and more active exploratory snakes
>shy snakes with more exploratory groupmates explored more than average and vice versa
Garters have friends, and would rather do stuff they dont like to with their friends than do stuff they like to do alone.
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>>4774312
Love her
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Anons, I want to get a blue tongue skink, they make me laugh. Plus they can pretty much eat food from the grocery store.

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Horse General

Lonely Commute Edition

>>4769672 - Old Grey Mare
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>>4780840
that really looks so out of place
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>>4780214
hide yo kids, hide yo wife
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look at this cute lil filler
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>>4781221
Cute indeed
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>>4780840
I have a Hungarian friend who told me the same kek, though I think he said it was for all occasions or something

Welcome to /Plant/. Where we either keep or trade tips on Plants or ogle at them from our screens.

>NZ Endemics.
https://inaturalist.nz/

>Flora of the World
http://www.worldfloraonline.org/

>Plants of the World Online
https://powo.science.kew.org/

>Hardiness zones
https://www.plantmaps.com/

>Plant ID Sites

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>>4774030
unfathomably based post
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>>4778908
>pickle plants
>tfw pickleplant is etiolated even though its right under a growlight
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Is this crabgrass if not what is this? Thanks.
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>>4780654
Looks like tall fescue, not sure what seed the rest of your lawn is, though it looks like blue grass, possibly rye or a blend.
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>>4781117
The lawn is bluegrass. I'm up north 6b could it be annual bluegrass maybe?

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>>4765902
ron
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>>4766096
What is the evolutionary advantage in looking like this?
Why would god make something so weird looking in the middle of the ocean?

Checkmate everyone.
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>>4781091
>why did God put something extraordinary in His creation?
Gee, I wonder
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>>4781091
>evolution
>advantage
You truly don't understand evolution
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>>4766096
This man fucks.

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>KISAMA
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>OMAE SHINE
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>mou kaeritai
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>oya oya
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>Sonotori.
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>Omae o buttataite yaru yo

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Post your favorite picture of an animal right fucking now.
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TERRAPIN
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>>4780653
:)
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Scrunkly old mf looks like he's on his last life of the nine, I would pet him so hard

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all rodents welcome

previous bread >>4691039
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>>4775159
sleep potato
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BEEP BEEP OUT OF THE WAY FOR THE SUPERIOR RODENT

Also see, why are bunnies the best (my little lady penut pictured)
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>>4780732
But they're not rodents, they are lagomorphs...
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>>4777163
>here is a place a half hour from my house that will do it for $15 but without anesthesia
lol does he just bring a hammer with him?
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>>4781033
What do you think they're doing when they euthanize your rodent? Injecting poison into its heart. If they don't put it to sleep ahead of time they're going to feel it. If you've ever paid for cheap euthanasia that's what happened.

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I recently got a healthy white duck pet and i called him "Breadwinner", AMA
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>>4781002
Cant tell much from this angle but he looks like a she.
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>>4781002
Really cool! I like a white good white duck.

I found a next of duck eggs at my ranch and decided to incubate them, and we got 3 from like 12 eggs. These fuckers are so damn annoying. Lucky they are cute.

I need to get a better waterer and bedding for them, and that will solve half the annoyance.
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>>4781037
Reversed image searched that shit. That's not OP's duck.

>>4781043
9 dead ducks : (
Guessing the nest was abandoned and/or Theymama Puddleduck was killed somehow, yeah? : (
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>>4781065
They were all quitters or infertile. One popped, so we candled after 2.5 weeks and were left with only 4 that still looked good.
The ducks are around, but we were unsure of the age of the eggs. Duck eggs, and especially muscovy have particularly low hatch rates when artificially incubated, so we are happy with three.

I'm that guy in the chicken thread that hatched out almost 300 chicks a couple weeks ago. These ducks are kind of jusy a bonus on top of those lol.
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>>4781087
I figured that's who you are, yeah. You post on /ck/ from time to time, too, iinm.

Any anteater chads here? What do you feed them? Any special needs?
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>>4777034
>no weird joints
souvlless
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>>4761269
Ahhh I love my state! Never updated species whitelists for the win!
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>>4737736
Nigga you literally can't own anything here. All (mammals, fish, lizard, insects) native animals are illegal in most states. It is only enforced if you make a scene though.
Some peta retards or similar must've slid their anti animals in captivity rhetoric into the green ideology, because every normie believes that harvesting any wild animal from the wild to for husbandry makes you a selfish tiger king narcisist who is killing the environment, thus even random minnows being illegal to catch and keep in your fish tank.
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>>4750285
dogs can kill you, horses and cows can kill you. Moot point
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>>4778848
Those don't eat ants.

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>>4779917
anything else to add?
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>>4779917
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>>4779917
>>4780019
O RLY?
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>made popular by Harry Potter
Yes, you are right

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Pigeons are cute and beautiful and I love !
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>>4778590
This is a very cool photo

>>4779837
Cute story anon. Did you take a picture?
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>>4751904
You sound very pathetic
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>>4780163
they came back while i was doing the dishes, but i think i got too close for comfort and they ended up getting scared. i think i need to retrain myself how to behave around these creatures, i think the selfish bits of me override the intuition i might have with animals. i read that they will always need to warm up to me, and not the other way around, so i will try to not be so pushy next time and give them their due respect. i wouldn't want some weird stranger pushing their nose up while i'm eating either, but i was just so eager to make friends that i couldn't help but get a little too close.
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>>4780201
don't mind him, he is simply immature and doesn't know any better. abusive language will only affirm his narrow minded conclusions and close him up from any curiosity in trying to learn more.
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>>4761053
>>4761116
>>4761118
Update on rescued pigeon. A few days ago he recovered and flew back to his group. Today I saw him hanging out with his friends on a rooftop. Im so happy for him, saars.

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Land Whale edition

Previous Thread >>4685883

WHAT IS SPECULATIVE EVOLUTION?
Speculative evolution is the exploration and imagining of how life might evolve in the future or could have evolved in alternate pasts. It's a multimedia sci-fi genre that harnesses scientific principles to create detailed and plausible hypothetical creatures, ecosystems, and evolutionary histories.

RESOURCES:
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Tutorial
>One-stop shop for relevant background information for starting a project

http://planetfuraha.blogspot.com/
>Fantastic blog covering all sorts of spec evo topics in-depth

https://specevo.jcink.net/

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>>4780533
That requires a little outside context, when lovecraft was writing the luminiferous aether was still a thing taken seriously. Scientists thought space wasn't a vacuum but rather filled with a kind of matter that only interacted via light waves (might sound similar to modern theories of dark matter) and they thought this because wave particle duality hadn't been conceived of yet. There were also ideas going around at the time that different galaxies were essentially different universes with different physical laws and different kinds of matter. So what lovecraft was proposing here was that the elder things were made up of matter that could interact with the aether and thus they could swim through it like it was water. Easy to explain once you know of the historical scientific context.
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>>4780515
>>4780526
>>4780533
Like the other guy said I doubt he’d say that was his intention since they’re supposed to be aliens beyond our understanding but it is a neat design
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>>4780636
I wouldn't be so sure. I mean I guess you could say that spec only really became it's own genre with dougal dixon but there were plenty of antecedents like wells and the rhinogrades. When reading his writing it's clear that he was fascinated by the possibility of radial life becoming sapient.
>They had not been even savages—for what indeed had they done? That awful awakening in the cold of an unknown epoch—perhaps an attack by the furry, frantically barking quadrupeds, and a dazed defence against them and the equally frantic white simians with the queer wrappings and paraphernalia . . . poor Lake, poor Gedney . . . and poor Old Ones! Scientists to the last—what had they done that we would not have done in their place? God, what intelligence and persistence! What a facing of the incredible, just as those carven kinsmen and forbears had faced things only a little less incredible! Radiates, vegetables, monstrosities, star-spawn—whatever they had been, they were men!
I think if you can call the aliens and future humans of wells and the rhinogrades of steiner spec then you can count the elder things amongst them.
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A Leedsichthys-sized predatory ray-finned fish, possible?
A non-shark Megalodon, in other words.
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Have any non-tetrapod fish ever developed a mobile neck? I'm struggling to come up with even a single example (unless you count eels, which is obviously chesting)

>>4780938
I don't see why not, just needs an environment without dolphins or sharks to outcompete something like tuna.

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>>4727075
Fucking hilarious film tbdesu, Four Lions. Asks the question "what if a group of islamic terrorist bombers were comedically inept" and plays it straight.
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>>4767823
I'd forgotten but you made me remember.
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>>4778685
You got socialisation-mogged by a crow
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Today is my Birbs Birthday!
I made him some Mice shaped cakes with mice filling.
Garnished with white eggshells and on baby mice.
There is enough for everyone, so I will give some of the cakes to the neighborhood crows.
Ingredients for the dough are scrambled eggs with honey.
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I love jackdaws so much


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