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>minuscule, solitary hunter
>has a ridiculously small brain, with mere 60 thousand neurons
>so called "scientists" say they're able to plan ahead, scan their surroundings, deceive and keep a mental image of their prey for up to one hour even after losing sight of them

Do you guys seriously believe this shit?
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>>5081767
just give it some ritalin
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>>5081641
The base spider-plan is a very good one in nature considering they've been around for an extremely long time, so to diverge from what's typical for spiders is significant and notable.

Jumping spiders in the 'portia' genus can and will mimic the "mating password" of multiple male web-building spiders on the webs of the respective female. Where the male taps and plucks on the web to see if the female spider is receptive.

also these spiders do not specialize, so they (probably) are not purely instinct-driven.
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>>5081772
>also these spiders do not specialize

I mean, they DO specialize in hunting other spiders, but there's such a wide variety of different spiders that require different strategies to hunt that Portias can't just rely on instinct alone
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>>5081767
That arm (and the rest of the octopus) leaves the gene pool until all the ADHD genes are extinct.
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>>5081643
Okay, so bottom line, intellect is stored in legs.

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Goats are cool.
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thank you goats
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>>5078786
>>5078644
I do think they make the coolest sound among all animals ever

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>>5080673
It fails to recognize the vegans gaytheist religion
>moral value is based on smartness! of course i am smarter than you i care about being consistent with my ethics (which are correct and the only ones that aren’t evil) and in theory alien invaders would spare me because they would respect my logicality. like in star trek.
>^THIS IS WHAT VEGANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>5080675
Do these retards not know aliens steal cows and return them with prime cuts and tasty organs missing? Zorglax is up there making brats (earth’s finest creation - but they benefit from some added brain matter for moisture and complexity)
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>>5080677
Are you vegan?
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>>5080027
Whenever someone makes this argument I think about that one vegan protester who said her spirit animal was a wolf but that she'd be a vegan wolf.
The people who do the most for the preservation of animals are ironically hunters, they generally have a much more deep appreciation for them. Nature is cruel and unforgiving, a cow lives a relatively comfortable life and is killed comparatively gently. The species is ensured survival based on this. Humans are also the only species that in their existence may entirely eliminate the need for animals to be culled for meat, not just for themselves but across the board. I don't think you can really love animals and be against eating them, otherwise at a basic level you dislike an aspect innate to animals.
Would it be good if the meat industry was more ethical? Yeah. It'd also be good if the world wasn't polluted, habitats weren't decimated, and African children didn't have to labor away in lithium mines. But vegans still eat avocados and post this sort of low IQ garbage from their iPhones.
If you want to claim moral superiority stop existing as that is the only way to end your life's exploitation of other life, otherwise don't pretend like your token effort to make yourself feel better about the nature of existence puts you above others.
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>>5080320
>bloodmouths
Damn you're making eating meat sound a lot more badass than it actually is.

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Discuss discus, fish, plants, inverts, your favorite fishtubers etc.
Freshwater, saltwater, and anything in between.

Tank Cycling:
>www.modestfish.com/how-to-cycle-your-aquarium/

Stocking and Water Change Calculator:
>www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
>https://finscape.us/
>www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.php

Articles and Care Guides:
>www.seriouslyfish.com/knowledge-base/
>www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/
>www.aquariumcoop.com/

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>>5080838
I finally had my first encounter with detritus worms a couple weeks ago not knowing what they were and went through the process of panicking about it until my fish ate all of them.
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What should I look into if I want to buy a camera to take better pictures of my fish and shrimp?
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>>5082035
The camera isn't the issue. You could buy a pro DSLR or mirrorless camera for $5k and you'll still be taking shit pictures. The problems are generally lighting and reflections.
1) You may find your pictures to be blurry and think it's a camera problem. It's not. It's a low light problem. You may think your aquarium lights are really bright, but they are nothing compared to daylight, thus your phone is automatically increasing ISO (which adds noise) and lengthening shutter speed (which causes blur). Turn your tank lights all the way up and consider even supplementing it with other directed overhead lights (i.e. spotlights, not room lights and DEFINITELY NOT camera flash).
2) Turn off/shade all the ambient/room light in order to decrease reflections. This is tricky because of #1
3) Learn a little about focal distance. Pressing the camera may seem like a good idea to avoid reflections but your lens may not be able to focus on something that close, and you will invariably have greater geometric distortion shoving your face and phone up against the glass like an autist.
4) If you want to spend some money, get a polarization filter. This will cut out reflections quite a bit but there is a tradeoff of a bit of received light attenuation. It is well worth it though.
5) If you want to spend even more money, get a macro lens attachment for your camera (they're actually not very expensive for phones, mine came in a set with filters for reef tanks and it cost $30) and you should be able to get much closer to your subject without focus issues.
6) Clean your shit. REALLY CLEAN it. Make sure your glass is absolutely spotless. Do a big water change, make sure the glass is clean while the tank is drained, use water clarifiers. Whatever you can do to get absolutely clear water and glass, it will help immensely.
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>>5082035
OOH, forgot to mention: 7) Don't freehand your camera. Preferably use a camera stand, but setting it up against a chair and books or whatever you can cobble together is fine. Similar to #1, you may think you're steady: you're not. The more your camera has to rely on picture stabilization, the higher chance your picture will come out like shit.
Also 8) You can always isolate your subject in a small box. It's super easy to take pictures of fish/inverts in a tiny water box, but then you won't have any scenery.
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>>5082035
I just bought a cheap clip on lens for my shitty smartphone camera and was pretty happy with the results compared to the blurry stuff I was getting before. You can spend thousands on cameras and stuff but I don't think you'll get a good outcome without a load of research. With the clip on there are limitations with focus distance but otherwise they turn out good.

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Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.

Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.

>Flora of the World
http://www.worldfloraonline.org/

>Plants of the World Online
https://powo.science.kew.org/

>Hardiness zones
https://www.plantmaps.com/

>Plant ID Sites
https://identify.plantnet.org/

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>vendor reply immediately on order request
>slow to reply when ask about plant damage/
>sent proof
>4 days no reply
Tales as old as time, time to publicly shame them on their live sale again.
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>carefully ration out space and prebuy trellis materials for nightshade patch
>just enough room for each species
>order the seeds
>as a free gift, a second completely different variety of tomatoes!
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I have planted over a thousand rose seeds
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>>5080049
This is how I feel posting in this general sometimes. I want to talk about plants in depth with someone. I want to talk about potato varieties. I want to talk about plant evolution and taxonomy. I want to talk about prehistoric plants. I want to talk about foraging and making wild food. I want to talk about plant anatomy. But it's just a bunch of weenies who bought a house plant and don't know how to look after it and have come to ask a stupid question they could find the answer to with a simple 5 minute search
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>>5081108
Not really any gardening channels but I watch a couple of channels about wild plants if that's any good to you

https://www.youtube.com/@offalyheritage/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@UKWILDCRAFTS/videos

You got any more gardening channels?

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I have a neighbor who is always complaining about my dog barking but I've been noting all the times my dog barks and it's only about once an hour, usually just a few barks and it's mostly inside my house. It's way below what the local laws say is too much barking and he almost never barks early in the morning or late at night. What can I do to get this dog hating faggot off my case?
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>>5080685
Someone is literally with my dog every second of the day. It's actually an issue because we've been so paranoid about barking that we don't leave him home alone, ever. If we can't look after him for a day we take him to a dog sitter.

Luckily my wife and I are very socially introverted and if we can't go to some event because we can't bring our dog with us then we don't really care
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>>5078958
This some HOA shit or something?
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>>5078958
i could definitely understand why it would be annoying for your neighbor. they didn't choose to own a dog but are subject to dog barking anyway, especially if its a couple barks every single hour, i get their frustration. my family has a dog and i'm aspie so i get annoyed a lot when he barks because i prefer quiet 24/7. this in no way means your neighbor is a dog-hating psycho, it's like people on this board are physically incapable of having neutral opinions on dogs or cats and its 100x more autistic than being annoyed by constant barking noises kek
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>>5082002
>im an aspie
>couple of barks an hour
I do not care what you think or feel.

When given a choice between demanding that the world bend to your disorder, and taking your meds, take your meds, mutant.
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>>5079160
>barking wolves
Wolves don't bark. Even their non-howling vocalizations still sound like awooos. Think Husky vocalization but less derpy.

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>>5082007
I sketched this when I was at da river doing field sketches with charcoal pens
They were hopping up from the water for the mating season
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This was for a personal project I never started
May revisit it eventually
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ditto

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I feel like they're an under-discussed/underreported (at least outside of academia) part of animals
Many animal matriarchies have them and young male 'teenagers' complete the rest of their learning in bachelor groups sometimes actually guided by a much older 'alpha' male
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Bumped
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Why isn't this thread popular
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>>5082012
I feel like you didn't really post a strong question or prompt to discuss in your OP, just the notion of bachelor groups

>sometimes actually guided by a much older 'alpha' male

this is interesting to me
I remember reading about how the poaching of older male elephants for their tusks led to massive behavioral problems among younger male elephants going through musth, the older males played an important role in controlling the bad behaviors of the younger ones
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>>5082017
Yeah, but it's mostly hormonal
All elephants have glands in their mouths to detect the pheromones emitted by elephants during musth
Evolutionarily, younger elephants end their musth much earlier when they sense these hormones but only if they're from an older male
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>>5082026
what the younger elephants were doing is bullying and maiming infants in the herd.
there is no hormone that tells you to hurt children. it's a learned behavior, these young male elephants were being assholes and they needed to have this behavior be corrected, but no elephant in their herd was strong enough to do it.

It reminds me a lot of the "teen violence" problem. Is it due to hormones/genetics? Yes. Is it due to culture? Also yes. Almost every single question in evolutionary psychology comes down to this. you cannot really separate complex societal behaviors into either biological or societal buckets.

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Post and speculate about deer
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>>5081906
If human had blood loss during childbirth then we wouldn't exist retard
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>>5081908
>blood loss automatically means le dead

Please keep replying, everyone needs to see how fucking retarded you are
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>>5081910
Blood loss caused by hoapitala
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>>5081911
Every mammal bleeds when giving birth, but humans are of the few that bleed out the most because of the narrow birth canal stretching due to the child's large head, all of which are caused by our erect postures and large brains

I swear, sometimes you guys are just as retarded as christcucks
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>>5081879
Kill yourself faggot

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This shit is all over social media and has been for a while. Is it bullshit? What does /an/ think of it
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>>5079763
https://youtube.com/shorts/30y0pBSvefY
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>>5076070
His millennial owners are awful people. They keep him around these two bad bitch parrots and never let him get any action.
Imagine you're kept around a pair of exotic latina spinners but you're never allowed to get any action. Apollo lives in hell.
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>>5076096
>it’s just memorizing the right combination of things to say
So what you're trying to say is that grey parrots are large language models?
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>>5077630
>We would also be unable to vocalize like dolphins.
Uhh I doubt that, and I volunteer to prove it. Let's start with the getting jerked off by a tomboy part
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>>5076024
Depends.
Dogs understand basic concepts like "food" and "walk" so if a dog is conditioned to press a button, and that button conveys a word it knows and understands (assuming that these things sound like they do to dogs the way they do to us and not just garbled electronic nonsense) then it's not exactly a complicated thing. No more so then dogs bringing you their leash when they want to walk, or nosing their bowl.
However what is bullshit are the more abstract ones, like when a dog communicates that it paw hurts or that it misses someone or that a car went by outside. These are just the same tricks that paranormal investigators use, i.e. dog presses random button probably looking for reward, owner responds questioningly, dog presses another random button, owner then links the two concepts together and acts like the dog communicated something. Like paw - ouch "oh your paw hurts!" or noise - scared "oh dude that car that went by was really loud did that scare you?". You have to remember as well, like with paranormal investigation, you're only seeing the "hits", you're not seeing all the times the dogs press random shit that doesn't end up being compelling.

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>nooooo!!! you're not supposed to help the sea turtles reach the safety of the sea! you're supposed watch helplessly as they get devoured by sea birds!!

like damn, why the fuck not? we need to increase sea turtle population because they eat jellyfish. what's the harm in that?
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>>5022879
Um
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>>5023207
zero
seagulls should be intentionally made extinct. alongside all other aves. I'm in favor of total dino death. we have no ancestral blood feud with chelonians but saurians oppressed our ancestors for millions of years. we were not shown mercy and should not show it in return.
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lol
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>>5080567
lol, millions of humans died because they tried to get rid of this bird alone.
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>>5022997
Yes.

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WE ARE SO BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=r1tt3pf4MCQ
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>>5079325
no, you entered a thread where people started the conversation by saying >>5068883 and since this is 4chan it stays up along with all other replies, so people will read it and respond. If you're too dense to understand how conversations work on a fundamental level - call and response, reaction, information conveyance, whatever - then you're an idiot, plain and simple.
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>>5068883
>>5080464
Seems like a seething Jew who would rather kick his animals or something.
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There was an episode where Ben tried release his vultures near a power line and sat by a river for a bit. Does anyone know what episode that was?
I believe Ben may have filmed a turtle in that video that is either an entirely unknown species, or is evidence of a greater size than anyone previously known examples of an existing species. The turtle he filmed is a softshell of some kind, but it's gigantic. It's quite possibly the same size as a Yangtze river turtle. If not the same size, then very close. To my knowledge, there is no known softshell turtle that size in the US.
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>>5081771
government just doesn't record them that big because they don't want to accept any ecological preservation laws that blah blah limit their blah blah. Same deal with appalachy catamounts.
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>>5078845
What is that

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>went hunting with my dad this afternoon
>sitting in a blind around 3
>look to the side
>there's a mole meandering in
>just walking about ground
>looks/sniffs at me
>turns and slowly walks out the back
The one day I'm lazy and don't bring my camera. I'm fucking pissed. This will never happen again
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>>5079006
That's very wise what you just said
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>>5078962
>mole
>walking [above] ground
It was likely a shrew.

I saw two shrews chasing each other through fallen leaves earlier this year. One ran right at me, stopped at my feet and froze, then ran off. I thought they were moles at first, too, but they didn't have the goofy paddle feet so they had to be shrews.
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>>5078962
>tranime
Do you dad knows you are a faggot this huge?
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>>5078962
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie
Thats a mole
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>>5079006
definitely agree. pictures can't capture the full experience of seeing certain animals so close to you in the wild, it's better to be present and fully experience mother nature. plus i rarely even look back at my camera roll anyway kek

i've never seen a mole irl but like watching videos of them online. such cute animals

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>>5081867
She didn't know that birds have ears because she's a woman and a retard.
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>>5080818
Is that large, dark object inside the back of the eye?
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>>5081925
Do you mean the earball? Owl earballs are huge.
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>>5080818
And how about this nugget, owls have asymetrical ears that point in different directions, which helps them determine the location of the sound better

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Lurv me pterosaurs

Simple as
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>>5081254
well neither are pterosaurs
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https://markwitton-com.blogspot.com/2018/05/why-we-think-giant-pterosaurs-could-fly.html

Here to drop truth
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Imagine you're trying to eat a fern or something, and this giant flying murder lizard swoops down and gobbles you up with you having no chance of escape. Fukken brutal.
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>>5081807
Chad pterosaur vs the virgin whothefuckcaresosaur
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>>5081783
But whoever posted the image was dumb enough to name it front heavy.
Why post the image at all? It doesn't fly like a pterosaur, it doesn't have the same weight distribution. It's nothing alike.


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