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Shoebill thread
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Shoebills are that important evolutionary link between dinosaurs and muppets.
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>>5061747
They're not even from the same order.

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What do you think?
https://www.barbaradanielsart.com/dominion-over-man/
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>>5085265
Its a logical fallacy. And non factual.

Have you seen NZ homekill videos, vegan schizo? Cattle are subhuman. Their will to live goes as far as how easily startled they are. That’s why cattle are cattle. Without a god to command otherwise we take precedence over animals because anyone stupid enough to believe otherwise depends on the sympathy, hard work, and good will of carnivores to not be a malnourished cretin. That’s consistent with their heccin ethics n sheeit (meaningless garbage, ghost stories that make theology look like rational conclusions)
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fpbp, and also why are people naked an animals are clothed? it's not that they ask to wear shirts and we won't give them. This "art" not even makes sense in a fantasy setting. Hot tho
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>>5085265
you eat shit for posting your blog on 4ch ya dumb whore. also fuck the above posters earnestly responding to this tard shit. herbs in fields and i will kill you in real life.

As a pet owner I'd be very concerned about any animals being outside in general.

No shot this doesn't backfire and kill some native species.
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>>5082863
it's because most catfags are biological or spiritual women
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>>5082413
>ok you kicked the ever loving shit out of us fair and square, you win, thanks for not just fucking wiping us off the map
unfortunately brown savages never think this way, maybe the first generation, after which the brownoids forget how the white man dominated it, and they remain savages
on the other hand, pale savages (many asians, other whites), show respect to the ones who dominated them in the past, and, in many cases even made their culture into what it is today
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>>5077176
Brown hands from south India wrote this
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>>5082809
Dingos don't count, they're wild, not feral
Apparently there are some persistent packs of hybrids though which I didn't know about. I can't easily find good info about whether they're stray dog packs with some dingo mix or basically just dingos that fucked a stray dog a couple generations ago though. They don't have "street dogs" either way.
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>>5077172
>>5077172
/thread

I love hyenas, striped hyenas are my favorites
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>>5076176
cousin. they're cousins...
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Never forget what (((they))) took from you.
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>>5075320
millipede
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Just finished watching it. There is an indication of a season 2 like last time, but just an indication.

Genuine positives:

>Smilodon and Mammoth scenes
>Gigantopithecus is the GOAT!
>Humans teased in the last episode
>Overall visual porn
>Some other scenes here and there, kinda subjective
>There are kindo of subtle homages to WWB and paintings of Charles R. Knight, but that might just be me not seeing things as they are

Now to whining lol. Only thing that sticks out is basically just the visual porn of it all and high quality models and animations. Story telling is all over the place and pacing is the same as with last two seasons, but it doesnt seem to work here that good for this period and these animals.

There is an awful lot of patterns you will notice while watching, like constantly:
>Single mother and children scenes occupy majority of every episode

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>>5084649
>But they do attack the big male instead of trying to separate a calf from the herd, which is what should be expected from any predator.
We already went over this but I'll just repeat what I said before. Animals aren't perfect machines. They end up attacking the bull due to it being an aggressor, this doesn't mean the bull was their target from the start.
>It's not pointless because we can see what the extremes are like and make comparisons based on those differences.
Except this way of looking at it reduces animals to number values, which is a severe oversimplification. You can't just hyperfocus on size and neglect the unique characteristics these animals evolved to hunt with.
>They're more tied to their similarities than their differences. Both lions and homotherium are adapted to hunting megafauna with different adaptations. If you want to claim drastically different results, you need to justify with drastic differences.
I would argue that the differences between lions and homotherium are drastic enough. They're two animals with dramatically different dentition, which is one of the most vital things to consider when comparing two different predators.
>I never said that. I never used the kind of language implying 100% certainty since science never tells you anything with 100% certainty. This is the same equivocation again so you can keep attacking a strawman to avoid the actual point that it's not backed by science. Strawmanning doesn't make your argument stronger. It just makes it look like you're unable to argue the actual point.
I never considered your position to be a weak one. What you claim is perfectly valid in terms of arguing that PP's portrayal would be an unlikely, fringe case. But it's not enough justification to call PP's portrayal impossible.
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how are you two dumbasses still arguing with the same points like this just shut up already
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>>5084725
They have no friends or family to talk to, so they just shitpost here.
It's really sad. :(
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>>5084662
>They end up attacking the bull due to it being an aggressor
That is not how animals work. They would evade the bull and try to get to the calf. The only reason they'd attack the bull is if they have a death wish.
>You can't just hyperfocus on size and neglect the unique characteristics these animals evolved to hunt with.
>I would argue that the differences between lions and homotherium are drastic enough. They're two animals with dramatically different dentition, which is one of the most vital things to consider when comparing two different predators.
Size isn't the only thing to look at, but it is the central and most vital thing. But we can look at other factors to consider how they'd deviate. In the paper you linked, the analysis of how bush dogs can be so good at hunting much larger prey included the reasons of a strong bite force and not being a persistence hunter. Those are negatives for homotherium.
>unlikely, fringe case
More equivocation. You're pretending I'm using unlikely to mean that it's rare for a bull mammoth to get hunted by homotherium. The actual point is that it's unlikely that such a event has ever happened at all.
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>>5085013
>That is not how animals work. They would evade the bull and try to get to the calf. The only reason they'd attack the bull is if they have a death wish.
Except that isn't how animals work either? They're living things, not robots with preset behaviors that will always respond in the exact same way to a given stimulus. What you described is just one thing they could have done out of many. The most optimal thing they could have done, but not necessarily what they will always do.
>Size isn't the only thing to look at, but it is the central and most vital thing. But we can look at other factors to consider how they'd deviate. In the paper you linked, the analysis of how bush dogs can be so good at hunting much larger prey included the reasons of a strong bite force and not being a persistence hunter. Those are negatives for homotherium.
The entire incident with the Tapir is said to have taken place over three hours, with it only ending due to human interference. That is by definition a persistence hunt, and the fact that an animal that isn't even specifically adapted for such a feat was capable of it only supports the argument for what homotherium could accomplish in a similar scenario.
>The actual point is that it's unlikely that such a event has ever happened at all.
You're acting like these are different things, but to me they just sound one and the same. A rare event is an event that's unlikely to happen. Saying otherwise is claiming it's impossible for that event to have occurred, or claiming it definitely did happen. If you're not claiming that PP's portrayal is impossible, then what is egregious about it? Documentaries don't have arbitrary baselines deeming that only common occurrences are allowed to be shown.

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hey /an/ i need some advice, today my cats brought a lil bird through the catflap (picrel). he's moving and doesn't seem to be injured. his wing looked a little damaged and he's not flying.

i want to help him, i live in the UK (south-east), what should my next steps be?
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>>5085241
That's a wood sandpiper. Just Google some care facts and do that.
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>>5085249
cheers
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>>5085241
he cute
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>>5085241
keep your cat indoors? Whats the point of helping this particular fella if you just let your cat rampage outside
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>>5085257
i kept it brief, but i'm actually caring for someone else's pets for the weekend. they ask for their cats to be let out in daytime.

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animals ranked by how much aura they have
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>>5085096
fr fr this list :fire: :fire: :fire: :100:
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>>5085096
Poor hedgie...
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>>5085096
>armadillos, puffins, penguins, sloths, lemurs, sun bears and bearded dragons having zero aura
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>>5085096
Vaquitas just can't catch a break.

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>cows domesticated since they provide meat, milk, and leather
>they also make plowing the fields easier as beasts of burden
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>chickens domesticated since they provide meat, eggs, and feathers
>they also scratch the ground which prepares it for planting as well as eat pests in the garden
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>bees domesticated since they provide honey and beeswax
>they also help pollinate crops which increases their yield heavily when it comes time to harvest
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>carp domesticated since they provide meat and thrive in poor water conditions eating waste
>they also were introduced into rice paddies as a primitive form of aquaponics
Is there any reason why every animal we domesticated """mysteriously""" also helps out with agriculture? Seems kinda fake to me tbdesu.
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>>5084726
Checkmate athiest
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>>5081747
>Attempt to domesticate an animal that has all the typical hallmarkers of being good for domestication
>It helps with agriculture, a major food source for human society
>Domestication was beneficial for everyone involved
>The animal gets to live and breed in a safe environment and the human masters get help and resources

>Attempt to domesticate an animal that has all the typical hallmarkers of being good for domestication
>It presence actively harms your agriculture in an unrestrainable way
>Your village starves when crops fail
>Domestication of this animal was a bad idea
>Eat that animal instead of starve

Every once in a while I get a rooster that is a shithead. He doesn't protect the hens, or he bullies them until they stop laying or die from stress, or he irritates the other animals, or he pisses me off. That rooster goes into the soup pot while ones that don't piss me off generally live long enough to pass their genes. If I get an ideal one (healthy, protective, pretty, not an aggressive piece of shit) I will actively choose to breed them and share them with other chicken-having friends.
Would you keep a dog if it poisoned everyone's food by looking at it, even if otherwise it was a good dog? No.
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>>5085166
What are you? Some kind of expert on animal husbandry?
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>>5084726
Yes there is
Xenopus (pic related) are the frog equivalent of lab mice. Different strains of inbred, outbred, transgenic, mutant, etc.
Some frogs like pacman frogs have been smashed and slammed and became so retarded they cant even hunt by themselves.
Axolotls are actually mutts of several species and doesn't exist as a natural species anymore.
>inb4 that's not real domestication
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>>5085178
I'm just a midwit with chickens to be honest.

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>Docile
>Eats seeds
>Very stupidly naive and trusting and easy to tame
>Not aggressive except for that time it humped Louis Theroux's head
>Parrot trade is already rampant
Why don't they just add this guy to the parrot trade as a species to have under a licence and then make breeders release a certain number of them into the wild each year? You can't tell me this dude wouldn't thrive in a household in a big cage as a cuddly ground feeder and be a better pet than a macaw.

They would go from 'critically endangered' to 'least concern' in a decade and you may as well use the parrot trade for good.
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>>5084091
so basically what happened to axolotls?
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>>5084091
People as they breed them will begin choosing traits by their own preference rather than what natural selection would guide. After a hundred years you will have wild lines and domesticated ones which behave and look different. If the goal is to boost wild numbers, turning them into pets will turn them into pugs.
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>>5084091
Are they easy to breed in captivity? If so, then I'm all for it. It would save the species and then you could release the extra back into the wild
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>>5084091
>be a better pet than a macaw
That bar is incredibly low
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>>5084094
In the stone age they couldn’t do that though

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Lurv me pterosaurs

Simple as
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>>5083652
based schizobird
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Do you guys like terror birds?
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>>5084379
That's a chocobo
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>>5074494
Yeah same. Lime intellectually I know they’re eff-off huge, but seeing a person interacting with the life sized model makes it look even bigger than i ever imagined.

Riddle me this, paleofaggots. How is it that dromaeosaurs allegedly had pennaceous wing feathers because of "quill knobs", yet somehow terror bird ulnae don't show any signs of quill knobs?

>this is no evidence for the absence of pennaceous feathers, it indicates that they were not as strongly anchored

Yet terror birds obviously derived from flying ancestors where pennaceous feathers would be a strong ancestral trait, yet dromaeosaurs who did not derive from flying ancestors and were totally flightless themselves did have these attachment points for strong pennacious feathers. What the fuck did they need those for that a terror bird would not have a need for?

Make it make sense
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>>5084956
The ratites have lost their arms, next they will lose their legs.
They shall join the likes of snakes, legless lizards, and caecilians in returning to the basal chordid form the tetrapods ruined.
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Who would have thought all those faggot dinosaur kids would grow up the be even more annoying faggot dinosaur adults
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>>5083959
Anon don't give feather fags the attention they crave. They know what they're spreading is false and stupid. They're trolls.
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i suddenly find feather fag arguments more compelling now that a trip fag told me not to listen to them
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>>5084920
You might be retarded anon

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>A high-speed train carrying 650 people has collided with and killed seven wild Asiatic elephants and injured a calf in northern India.

>Five train coaches and the engine derailed following the impact, but there were no reported human casualties, Kishore Sharma, Indian Railways spokesman said.
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>>5085174
>Why are these third world countries so fucking bad at thinking ahead and planning?
ftfy
They just want to appear modernized but they don't actually think things through. They're building high speed rail with absolutely zero safety, reliability, and long-term durability in mind and have surprised pikachu face when one derails and kills people (while this incident didn't have human fatalities, it is only a matter of time). BUT HEY THEY GOT HIGH SPEED RAIL LMAO!
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>>5085172
We are aryan saar
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>>5085172
Indians are shitting the Ganges river dolphin to death
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>>5085172
Their lives were worth more than all of India

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General for the discussion of rodent care with a focus on rats
3 year old edition
Pic rel is Burroughs taken in June who passed on Saturday at about 3 years old
>Rats need love
>Rats need companionship
>Rats need free roam time
>Other rodents welcome
Rat first aid: http://neratsociety.co.uk/articles/firstaid.shtml
Good and bad food: https://squeaksandnibbles.com/safe-foods-for-rats/
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>>5084369
She was sliding down my arm at first, but stopped after a few times when I just keep making a loop with my arms to stop her from falling.
>Are they getting much free roam time
A little bit but not as much as they should. Do have cats and they are assholes and knock down the cardboard enclosure I made so I need to get something a little more sturdy before I can do more. If/when she crawls on me like that again I'll probably take her into another room for it,same with the others when they are more used to my hands I guess.
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>>5084370
Sounds like she likes it so but take it easy and be ready to catch at anytime. They can be real dumbasses with their jumps
Watch the cats, they're devious bastards and cardboard won't stop them
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I saw rats swimming and playing at the edge of a local lake, just as the sun faded into dusk.
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>>5084992
thanks for the pleasant mental image, anon
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>>5062826
rat poison is basically fiberglass and blood thinners isn't it? How are immune to that?

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>>5083783
>Nooo but I spent so many evo points in armor :(
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>>5071711
Is he okay???
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>>5073954
mmmhmm microplastics
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What about retractable claws? How did felines get them? Are they better than bear claws and wolf claws?
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Any one else thinking that mountain lions are by far the most beautiful big cats? I love them. They're perfect.

I like all cats, and all big cats, they're all beautiful. but there's something about mountain lions, they're the most beautiful in my opinion.
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>>5085115
Considering that everything else about them except size is pretty much identical, does blinking their eyes mean the same thing in big cats as it does in house cats
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>>5085115
if you're seeing a cougar like that in the wild, it's basically them saying "yeah we cool, just don't try funny shit"
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>>5085116
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>>5085115
All memes and strange trump parody bot posts aside, this is a beautiful animal. Wow.


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