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>just buy a suppressor anon
>completely out of stock everywhere

What the fuck /k/?
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I can’t believe cans are more expensive in the us than in yurop. we typically have to pay WAY more for guns and stuff than you guys
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>1500 dollars on a fucking pea shooter manbaby toy is simple and even the uber rich should just throw money away! This is how the world works in retard land!
>I don't understand that one.
What is there not to understand? I've got well researched specific ones, but I can absolutely understand how fucking painful the enormous wait was and the temptation of multical particularly as qd systems improved. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a free lunch, and this is a case where jack of all trades is definitely master of none. It did indeed make more sense to have each can be very good at the specific thing. But "I only want to deal with the NFA and wait shit once" is something I can understand in principle particularly for those who are newcans and don't understand yet. Like, I didn't either, I took people at their word and believed it and went for it, but I didn't really GET it until I ran one. Then, like lots of others, I slowly got more. And the first for each caliber was definitely the hardest, the wait and trouble honestly stopped being so bad after.

I think that is one thing that will go away though as costs drop and the wait goes away. The big incentive towards "use one for everything" was avoiding the wait. More, cheaper more specific cans is better.
>I can’t believe cans are more expensive in the us than in yurop.
They aren't $1500 they're like $400 and up, but yeah they're more expensive. Dunno why you'd find that weird though euroanon:
>we typically have to pay WAY more for guns and stuff than you guys
Yeah, because for you guns are ultra regulated and a pita, with a small resulting market. But cans are fundamentally cheap and easy to make at least ok ones of, and for some of europe they're unregulated. So you get good prices. Whereas for us guns are very lightly regulated. In my state we do not even have permits at all, you can just use your driver's license or whatever else to show you're old enough and then get a gun. You can conceal or open carry it, shoot it wherever etc without anything else.

But cans are federal. They've been historically somewhat irritating to apply for, have an effective high floor price ($200) minimum, and up until this year had crazy waits. All of which distorted the market. The low end doesn't exist, because nobody wants to buy an object for $100 then pay 200% tax on it and wait a year and have no warranty. If you're going to go through with it at all might as well make it worth it, which means something durable, well supported, and more gucci.
>can't own guns
>can buy suppressors
that's bullshit but i believe it

>Mig 25
>no cannon/gun
>tiny control surfaces relative to the plane so not maneuverable
>literally the closest jet visually to a flying brick
>americans saw this and were shook to their core which led them to make the f15
There's no fucking way it wasn't just the MIC hyping up the soviets to fleece the US out of taxpayer money.
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Typical communigger public dilation
NATO saw some satellite footage of one going Mach 5, and they thought that was the cruising speed. In reality it was a test flight and you can’t run the plane like that for long without damaging the engines.
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Reformers had a lot of strange ideas about aircraft development back then.

beat me to it
>mach 5
yeah, no. It's under mach3 and can do so for 30 seconds with full afterburners.

where the fuck do you people get your information.
Checked satan

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does anyone have that photo of the soldier bench pressing landmines in the middle of the forest, kind of like picrel
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ty :)
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>Yuo see Ivan, wear mines like armour, and enemy will not shoot you for fear of destroying city block
Thats a finn, not a r*ssian

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I've never had a girlfriend before. How do I get one thats at least 3-5 years older than me?
my lewd thoughts about balalaika is me taking her makarov, schoot her calves and finish coocking her
kobenis :DDDDDD
Romantic and wholesome thoughts about Balalaika!
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a 3D girlfriend? Likely college or work, be talkative and get acquainted with people. Not necessarily primary targets, meet new people who may introduce you to 3D girls. Even if they're dudes, being social will in time get you in touch with (older) 3D women
please install a spellchecker, anon
treating Balalaika like an object for pleasure until her holes and her dignity are destroyed!

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>Now, these are obviously targeted at the vast majority of civilized countries around the world, where people are not allowed to carry real firearms. And even these can be strictly regulated.
So, basically, these nutjobs brag about being disarmed and then go on a grand quest to find the most powerful BB gun to replace 'real firearms'.

My question to you, fine Eurocucks, is... WHY? What's the point? The Huben GK1 in .25 is more powerful than a .25 ACP gunpowder & lead pistol in standard purse carry sizes, so it would seem that you "guys" aren't as willing to be disarmed as you let on like you are. What's your game? Serious question.

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If you can't carry firearms you don't have the laws to kill an intruder with an air gun.
You're gonna get raped in prison where you can't bring your big boy air gun with you. I hope you know karate.
No, even in turbo cucked countries like mine there have been cases where a homeowner was cleared over shooting an intruder through the door
It does take pretty specific circumstances and a sympathetic judge but it happens
A report on crime between England and America published around 2015 or so found that English burglars (in addition to being considerably more common than American ones) were more likely to rob a house during daylight hours and less likely to case the residence. Your theoreticals do not hold up to fact, gun control has made burglary a safe profession.
>In fact, some years ago there was a case where some biker gang dude walked free after shooting a police officer
He didn't walked free. He was not guilty of shooting the cop, but jailed because had an unregistered gun and a shitload of drugs in his home. Why do you think the cops were there in the first place?
the revolver is cool. we we're shooting each other with them at my last family reunion.

Technical question : why don't we have auto turrets ? Or even better, auto turrets mounted on land drones ?

We have ballistic computers for missiles, artillery and even lasers but I don't remember seing any for automatic guns. Imagine a computer firing bullets with next to no reaction time and 99% accuracy on long range, aiming at anything moving in its line of sight, is it that hard to do ?

Modern computers can easily take in account distance, windspeed, recoil... Even predict human mouvements with AI models. So what's the hold up, why do we still use human infantry missing 95% of their bullets.
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But with AI it's likely to have much better target recognition.
What are you basing this assumption off of?
We do. Samsung makes one of them, it's on the DMZ line.
Targets have to be individually ID'd so it's not a perfect system but if the shit gets hot they can just deploy them and leave them on.
Video Game AIs cheat. The AI actually knows everything and only pretends it doesn't.
>Lasers are and will remain a theoretical meme for a long time without breakthrough in energy storage
Energy storage is a big problem for handheld laser weapons meant to engage people, or for larger scale laser weapons. But for something meant to shoot down small drones at relatively close distances, and it's vehicle mounted? Energy is not the problem there.
antipersonnel lasers are technically easy but using them is a war crime

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>pic related
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Theyre pretty hard to find in burgerland. Id pay 500 dollarydoos in a heartbeat.
they were pretty popular here in europe together with m1 carbines as they were for a time the cheapest durr/boar rifles around. Now hunters have been psyoped into believing you NEEED a 300WM to drop a fawn
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Here's some more pics. You can see on the inside of the crane it has a Model number of 10-6, but the barrel is clearly marked .357 magnum. Also the cylinder has recessed chambers normal for S&W magnums of that era. The New York State Police wanted a Model 10 but chambered in .357 magnum, so S&W obliged and made a run of .357 Model 10-6s. When those turned out to be a pretty good idea, S&W formalized this variant as the Model 13. I don't know if this one was used by any particular LE agency, but the holster wear would make sense for that. S&W made about 4k of these 10-6s in .357 magnum before switching to the Model 13 designation.
All of those look very cool.
Any idea what the circumstances around this were? Being an Aussie myself I'm going to guess:
>they got imported
>there was some complaining from wankers
>it was deemed not cool for us to have them
>the importer had to sell them as exports
Geniunely curious though.

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Were heavy cruisers a mistake? An 8 inch gun has mild advantages over a 6 inch gun in range and armor-piercing, but puts way less metal downrange because a 6 inch shell is the heaviest you can expect a gunner to load manually. Would Japan have done better if she'd armed her CAs with 5x3 6 inch guns like the Brooklyn-class?
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Someone else would always be able to build a bigger ship with armor practically impenetrable by six inchers. CAs were one tool in a big toolbox that needed to be used together to accomplish meaningful objectives. Even with air power being king, they were still a useful tool and anyone without them would have paid a price. That said, Japan had some very interesting doctrinal quirks because they knew they were working at a heavy disadvantage. Foregoing the already-mentioned and insurmountable industrial, logistic and resource problems, as well as the role of air power, the biggest mistake of the IJN, by a vast margin, was their lack of radar and attendant fire control improvements. Their cruisers could have mounted magic fun size 18 inchers and they would have lost to USN cruisers just as fast. They just could not hit a damn thing in comparison. As mentioned they did have doctrinal compensations for that reality, such as vastly superior torpedoes and very impressive night training, both of which got them victories early in the pacific at Guadalcanal; however, at that time the USN was very much still getting up to steam, and they - or at least a number of unfortunately appointed commanders - made some very stupid mistakes.
So all that to say, the size of their main guns was just about the very last priority if one endeavored to unfuck their navy.
I used to play that game a lot and yeah, cruisers fucking sucked even though it was my favorite type of ship to play. Especially the high tier USN ones, they are just useless.
>thing happened once so it's not true
so the sinking of HMS Glorious means the end of aircraft carriers I guess

>mere two inches
well, that's the difference between being proof against 6" and 8" fire at effective combat ranges back then
consider the reverse:
>you mean to tell me that 6" cruisers will kill 8" cruisers simply by dint of pouring more (low power) shells and hoping it will batter the (better-armoured) heavy cruiser into submission, hoping not to get hit? this is Fishermania all over again, you're off your rocker!
and yet that was the plan, and it worked

if you're a cruiser player in WOWS you resign yourself to either hunting destroyers, weaker cruisers, or gangbanging battleships while hiding behind the skirts of your own battleships
which is kind of fun and arguably close to IRL
oh so the guns themselves were retarded trying to be dual purpose for their size. thought you meant there was a significant flaw to the turret layout itself
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my favorite cruiser, even if its more of an overgrown destroyer
pity they overhauled the superstructure, looked a lot better in it earlier guise

You now remember the DOD made Khakis in ACU cuts for deploying civilians.
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Afrika Korps?
Because its alot more simple and having an issued uniform makes it less of a hassle when it comes to logistics, especially if they are working at a base or something. They are the closest thing to a protective uniform.
looks kinda cool never seen it before
but desu it give them like a field grey color to look a bit more different than soldiers
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Does anyone know where the fuck you can find the full set? So far I've only seen the top being sold by chinks and American made for Afghan gov

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What knife would be best for stabbing an armored drone? There have been times in 21st century combat when knives have been used effectively to stab vehicles and electrical lines powering defenses. Soon, terrestrial drones will flood the battlefield. Because of weight limitations, drones can only carry so much armor, if any, leaving them partially vulnerable to knife attacks.

Robots/drones may also someday carry bladed weapons since the weight of ammo and power requirements of energy weapons limit range and killing capacity. A light, fast robot with a knife would have greater range and kill without running out of ammo or power. There may come a time when humans will have to go mano-e-robo in a bladed battle to the death.

Consider also the robot turret or sentry gun. These would likely be heavily armored against bullets and shrapnel, but have stabbable weak points which could jam the gun or knock out the targeting sensors. What knives would be best here?
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I don't think an "injecting" knife would be of all that much use against a robot. IRL acids aren't like those in movies, they take far too long to act to be of any use, and assuming the robots developers aren't morons the electronics inside will be potted anyway which means the acid won't be directly contacting anything metal anyway. That applies to trying to cause shorts as well--you might as well make whatever fluid you use conductive because why not, but the chance of it actually making contact with something important is low. Rapidly expanding quick curing foam is not a bad idea, I don't think the chance of it blocking a joint is very good but it absolutely could fuck any kind of air cooling the robot needed. A computer doesn't run for shit if the CPU fan & heatsink are all gummed up.

Instead of putting something *in* the robot, how about putting something on the exterior of the robot. Paint fucks cameras and IR sensors. If the paint contains the right substances it can block RF as well, blocking communication the robot might have.
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.22 short still travels about 700 fps out of pistol barrels, they're literal varmint rounds. they will pass through a squirrel. I wouldn't expect more than 5" of penetration tho so I still would NOT recommend it for self defense, but yeah it still has a chance to hit something vital.
CCI high velocity out of 1 1/8" barrel passes through 7" of ballistics gel, obviously not "enough" but definitely capable of killing someone
My mom wants me to take her shooting for Mother's day. She has a .38 Special Revolver, which she's fired, but hasn't been shot in over 10 years. She also has a shotgun that she got about the same time, which she has never shot.

Firstly, is the ammo that they bought ~10 years ago still good to shoot? Anything to look for in the shotgun shells or ammo that would be an indicator of unsafe ammo?

Secondly, how safe would the guns be to shoot without cleaning them prior to going out to shoot?
>is the ammo that they bought ~10 years ago still good to shoot?
Yes, as long as it isn't damaged, ammo keeps a hell of a lot longer than 10 years.
>Anything to look for in the shotgun shells or ammo that would be an indicator of unsafe ammo?
Visual indicators like corrosion or general damage are all you're going to have to look for.
>Secondly, how safe would the guns be to shoot without cleaning them prior to going out to shoot?
You said she never shot the shotgun, so that should be fine. Unless the revolver is overly fouled to it effecting the action, it's fine. Sounds like the poor thing hasn't been cleaned in a decade tho.

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>Thread #2021

Old thread here >>61447841
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What even is that oil? I know what you mean, but mine has been sitting for 90 years and I don't know if I should use it or smear it on my chest,
The serial numbers have been hidden in this photo. Kinda strange
Yeah WASRs are going for sub-$700 now, so that's a pretty decent buy if you just want a basic AK. ZPAPM70 and WBP Jack are better made, but they're about $200-$300 more at the moment.
why would it be strange?
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>tfw no CCW SVD

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Admit it, this was kino
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Imagine what horrid mutations the Apple named subcontinent would spit out after getting nuked. It's not like they have a shortage of horrid deformities at the best of times
I must admit it, these guys had balls.
We'll probably only know the turth once the war is over but damn...flying an almost suicide mission into russian territory just to show that you too can strike inside enemy territory...that's gutsy.
>Get shot down right next to a graveyard

It was pure pottery.

I've seen tankies claim there never was any convoy on the road to Kyiv. "There's no way Russians would be that retarded" etc. Whatever it takes to make that blyatrun look good for RU, I guess.
Early war was amazing, the front was so dynamic both sides often didn't know which side of it they were on which lead to insane videos.

Yeah, shame the Budapest Memorandum was nothing but lies.

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What defensive weapon is the best for one shot stops?
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What exit wound? At 850fps you don't even get one.
My problem with the statistics regarding types of guns is that so many people that don't know anything load their shotgun with whatever is the cheapest thing they can get at Walmart, usually 7.5 or 8 shot, and think that they are good to go. Despite that, shotgun stats are still at the top, right next to the rifles. You also have to consider that with rounds like 44 mag, 25, and 32, they probably have very few actual shootings with those cartridges. Statistics only work with large sample sizes, so the autist that insists on using a 32acp, probably practices with it a lot and shoots it well. I very highly doubt that 32 is more effective than 9mm or 38 special and on par with 45acp.
>still finding herself vs ready to settle down
230 grain projectile though. If fps is a concern then you can upgrade to 45 Super or 460 Rowland.
Aren't these the examples of sheet metal shots?
155mm HE. As far as man portable shoulder fired goes, magnum rifle rounds>shotguns(at the right distance)=full caliber rifle rounds>intermediate caliber rifle rounds>>>pistol caliber rounds>>> inadequately penetrating pistol caliber/rim fire rounds. This is all assuming you're using quality loads. Also, your picture is an excellent example of how nothing trumps shot placement given adequate penetration.

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Will M6anon Deliver? Edition?

Old >>61331078

MFAL comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5V9qYxITW0

Resource on what these spec terminology mean




You shouldn't be chasing for spec values but they do exist and if you wanted to know what "better spec" values are there's a way to know which unit is desirable over another.

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Someone could 3d print a solution for a defuser. I want a low power aim/high power illuminator setting.

I looks purely utilitarian. I like it.
I'm thinking about buying a Jerry YM-2 and bridging it with my PVS-14. Has anyone tried this?
Are there 3D printed diffusers now? I would like to see an example for reference.
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Did some digging myself now that I'm at a proper computer and found this.
looks cool, ill wait for some better pix. posters asking for diffuser probably wont work since all the lasers are together. diffuser is a bit of a meme anyways since the LS's get pretty wide. like almost NGAL wide.

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What does /k/ think about painting your guns. I wanted to make my ugly ass Hipoint look ugly in a differnet way. Go with heavy wear SOF 80's throwback aesthetic, or the typical tacticool camo LARP.


Please post your paintjobs, philosophy on custom jobs, and the horrible curse image paintjobs of others.
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>Not using Enamels, streaking grime and Q-tips to artificially weather it.
>What does /k/ think about painting your guns
I don't think it lasts very well normally so wouldn't do it to anything nice vs a cerakote or even vinyl decals which at least are easy to swap later, but I think customizing the look of stuff how you want is based so go for it.
>yeah tactical advantage totally is critical to me the rando civvie gun owner
Another based thing about painting is it does separate you from retarded larpers like this faggot. The first rule of firearms ownership is to have fun.
>What does /k/ think about painting your guns.
I am a big fan of it
I paint all of my detachable magazine fed semi auto guns with the rust o leum camo paint
I usually do some kind of camouflage pattern that I make up as I go
when the paint wears off I simply paint again
your cat is looking to bury that turd

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