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100y or 200y zero on a hunting rifle?

I am leaning towards 200 because 100y sounds like pussy shit and the holdovers at 200 and 300y are a lot more with a 100y zero than the holdunder at 100y with a 200y zero or whatever

Although granted I will probably largely be blasting deer from 50
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>>65197933
>The .270 Winchester cartridge is equipped with a 130-grain bullet traveling at approximately 3,060 feet per second (fps). When sighted in to intersect 3 inches above the line of sight at 100 yards (about 90 meters), it maintains a trajectory that rises no more than 3.5 inches and aligns with the line of sight around 270 yards. This setup allows for a maximum point blank range of roughly 325 yards, ideal for effectively targeting game the size of deer within a 7-inch diameter target area. Hunters can shoot confidently within this range without needing to adjust for bullet drop. Additionally, the cartridge, loaded with the 130-grain bullet, retains around 1,500 foot-pounds of energy up to 400 yards, meeting the minimum recommended for hunting elk.
btw.
What you are going to do with .308 and other similar misunderstandings is your own problem.
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>>65197726
>but it's not like 200y zero makes hunting at 50 or 100 super fucking complicated
the 200 yard zero is coincidentally the same as a 50 yard zero
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What ever gives you the longest point blank range acceptable for your game. Keep it simple. Crosshair to the center of vital and sqeeze off. No need for holdovers or -unders. Forget long range shots unless you want to specifically set your gun up for it.
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>>65199300
I guess it depends on your specific load but 75ish for me
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100yards

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Can someone redpill me on shotgun length? I was thinking of getting a simple pump action shotgun, and like the idea of a short barrel one. I’ve been watching reviews of it and it seems a lot of people say it’s impractical, but they don’t really go into too much detail why. Does the spread really increase with such a short barrel? It just seems like a convenient option to carry but I want /k/‘s thoughts on shotgun fundamentals and what I should be looking for.
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>>65200817
Get the 590S for 13+1 mini shells
>Also, has Remington's QC improved?
Nope, if you want an 870, try to find an old Police Magnum
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>>65200817
Don't get the retrograde. If you want an old school shotgun with wood furniture and a blued finish, get an old one from a pawn shop or gunbroker. For example, this mossberg 500 that comes with two barrels

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1180544515
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>>65200817
Remington 2026 doesnt exist. Its old stock. On paper they are supposedly producing but its vaporware
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>>65199090
The last one I did was right before they went free (maybe late Nov.) and it took a day, day and a half to be approved. Haven’t done any since the law changed but will be getting some cans.
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>>65199015
Yes, but that doesn't help with the aiming part. Shouldering helps you be more consistent while also being fast.

>>65200817
590A1 has a metal trigger guard and what not, and besides the heavy profile barrel, it has a lug for taking M16 bayonets, which is pretty cool if you like that, though not particularly necessary.
The heavy profile barrel also isn't really that necessary either, mostly just makes the gun heavier, but whether that's more weight than you'd want or not is up to you.

>Remington
I have seen no evidence of them unfucking themselves. If you want a good one, you want to look for one manufactured before 2008.

>>65201598
THAT bad, huh? lol

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so say im world building for a DnD campaign and i want my weapons(bladed, firearms and other) to be somewhat plausible and have realistic tactics around them and a plausible story of how they came to be and what effects they had on the world, be it the gun uses magic gunpowder, magnetism or some other stuff.
For example designing it with ergonomics for chimps how can i go about it?
im interested in the process, and it doesnt have to be realistic but it shouldnt be magic on its own
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>>65192066
I dunno, unless you're going to sketch every weapon for the players to see, you can probably get away with describing things in a single line, for instance "Upon inspecting the fallen chimp warrior's handgonne, it becomes immediately apparent the tool wasn't designed with human ergonomics in mind, bearing an oversized trigger and action in tandem with a stabilizing fork for the user to lean against when firing."
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>>65196981
You whine, but you forget that *you* are the exhausted one. The problem lies between your ears. Remember, the only "bad behavior" here is you and your ilk incorrectly using the word realism when you are actually talking about something else.
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>>65192066
the gun is powered by runic design, on the outside of the chamber, runes for compression and conflagration create something similar to gunpowder when mana is applied which can propel a leaden projectile and create kinetic damage at range.
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>>65197178
Your deep and abiding faggotry has left me feeling re-energized in the practice of tormenting you retards for another year. Pedants are the lowest form of life, second only to pedantic morons who aren't even correct in their own specificity, and hating them should make one feel fulfilled for it's own sake.

Using "realistic" to mean "follows realistic logic" and not "photo-realist representation of exact events of history" is perfectly correct as it is.
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>>65192066
A DM here, I'm going to nerd out for a sec. Rather than developing tech around our anatomy, human hands may have evolved to better achieve clubbing and throwing, or, precision and power grips, respectively. Anatomically speaking, the pisiform bone in the wrist is much smaller and rounder in humans than in other primates. This allows our wrists to articulate more freely, whereas the wrists of primates are more like hinges. That being said, if you do want to go backwards and design weapons for chimp anatomy, I'd imagine their anatomy would work better with anything that you can grip in a 90 degree angle or something shoulder-mounted (like a recoilless rifle). The usual grip for shooting pistols etc. is a form of a precision grip, which other primates are poor at. You can check out Evolution of the human hand: the role of throwing and clubbing by Young (2003) for more, pic related.

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Given the population shortage faced by most developed countries, will we see robots begin to replace infantry?
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>>65200901
I'm honestly not sure.

On the one hand: >>65201213 Good points, on the other, barring a large scale war which we seem to be going away from I don't see it being used to its full potential. The 2 main powrs in the world are the USA and China and the USA has a habit of just overengineering everygoddamnthing and making things absolutely state of the art so it isn't obsolete for literal decades. Which is the exact opposite of what infantry is. And they will make a very good case, possibly an amazing case, as to why it needs to cost $20 million per unit.....But it's still the exact opposite of what infantry is.

And China, well, they haven't gotten the worst of their demographics hit so throwing people at any problem is still both the most effective and cheapest solution. Right now anyway


So color me unsure.
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>>65200901
Never? Humans wont run out, they're infinitely cheaper to produce and more capable than any machine of the same weight class
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>>65201872
Raising a human from birth to 18 years old in a western nation is generally estimated to cost between a quarter and half a million dollars. You can get a pretty good drone for that much.

That said, if a war starts then you have already paid for all those 18+ year old bodies, so just using them is the short term cheaper option over building a bunch of expensive tech even if you lose all their economic output in the long term.
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>>65201286
>as to why it needs to cost $20 million per unit
Doesn't it cost the government millions before Joe Public is permitted to shoot his rifle in anger? Even if it's only $2 million, if it could be replaced for $20 million without a massive loss of effectiveness I think the US would be going balls deep into that. I think you made up a random number you thought was large but made it way, way too low.
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>declare being a nigger is a crime
>fill up prisons with niggers
>institute penal battalion
>economy is boosted while nothing of value has been lost(except the mine), and your more valuable mobik soldier that can actualy drive a truck or calculate artillery are put to good use like working in a factory to make drones
>use jeets auxiliary(if they survive(they wont) they get boooby vagena) to demine a zone and out the hiding spot of enemy gunners.

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IT'S FRIDAY!
And you know what that means, don't you, anon?
The next Paul Harrell Watch Party starts around 6pm Eastern Standard Time, 10pm UTC, 12pm Euro time (unless you're a bong), 15pm Commiefornia LA time.
The stream starts when it starts, all you have to do is open the tab around the time it does (don't rely on it to work in the background).

https://sync-tube.de/room/_WAWKKlP

Come join us as we slowly work our way through the Paul Harrell catalog of videos every Friday, one hour at a time.
Last time (>>65158176) we
>peaked at 9 viewers
learned
>apparently the archive ate a few weeks of Paul threads so I guess we're at 77 now?
>you just need some screws, cardboard and a 2x4 to make your own target stand
>spear gold dot 5.7x28 JHP ammo is not terrible but not great
>for the most part, there's no real difference between CCI Green Tag 22lr Ammo and regular CCI ammo

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>>65196114
I do watch it (generally as background material), and while I can see what Roy is trying to do with teaching the basic basics, and I do think he's getting better as a presenter, what he's putting out right now just isn't as good, especially for Paul's audience. I wish he'd do some more interesting things.
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>>65196948
I didn't ask why he hasn't killed himself, learn to read. He's demanding action, I'm asking why he hasn't done any action himself
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>>65197459
>wahh waah you cant celebrate when your enemies die bla bla bla peace good war bad hold hands and do drugs in an orgy
That's enough from the boomers.
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>>65198597
Whatever you have to tell yourself to excuse your fear and laziness, pussy
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>>65199720
There's no way out of the hole you're in bitching and moaning that we shouldn't celebrate the death of evil because you wish you were at woodstock fucking your mom and like, we might have to go without television if too many bad people died.

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In your opinion, what is the strongest weapon, including firearms or melee weapons, and considering accessibility
pd: sorry if i have a bad english, is not my first language
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Noticed a significant uptick in retarded/ESL posts recently. Are summerfags still a thing in 2026?
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>>65199037
sorry bro i just started posting again ahah
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>>65198194
>considering accessibility
So weight, cost, ease of purchase?
Chemical weapons reign supreme.
That is why they are outlawed.
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>>65198194
if used correctly
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>>65198208
>>65198358
>>65198958
Two hundred grain thirty ought six is stronger than .45 acp and is in fact the strongest caliber/load combo available.
>>65201700
You have said the actual truth.

What were the USA's Armed Forces branches thinking when they all collectively decided to change the camouflage uniforms from a desert pattern to what basically amounts to an urban one for the US Army (And the Air Force?), and the infamous ocean camouflage for the US Navy? How did the US Marine Corps get something more sensible?
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>>65201480
There was a holdover from my AIT a little under adecade ago who was awaiting discharge for being in a homemade porno running a train with other dudes on a barracks bunny that wore UCP. His PTs were the old grey and blacks too.
I was issued OCP. Apparently I missed being issued it by about a year when I went to basic. So lucky me. OCP is way better looking anyways.
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>>65199332
The Marines may be retarded, but it's smaller and less bureaucratic as a result.
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>>65200547
Man, that was pathetic. Still can't believe that actually happened. What a disgrace
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>he’s still making threads
It’s just spamming at this point. What got hit in pidorstan this time??
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>>65200547
>>65201605
I'm a free market guy, and even I'm saying that is some truly end-stage capitalism right there

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>USS Gambier Bay about to be sunk by the yamato
How could ww2 generals use battleship more effectively?
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>>65197035
"Here comes USS Johnston with a steel chair"
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Oh, what's that? Your world that has magic, dragons and warrior creatures wants to invade us and slaughter our people?

Allow us to introduce ourselves with flying rotary canon boom-booms, long range sky-high boom-booms, and 105mm sabot.

Good luck.
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>>65181316
Gate is gay as fuck.
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Kill wizardniggers with

>stand-off weapons (air-launched cruise missiles, nuclear bombs with guidance kits, etc.)
>indirect fire (artillery, mortars, etc.)
>precision-guided munitions
>drones
>airstrikes
>helicopter gunships
>sniper rifles from a concealed position
>poison gas
>radiological weapons
>augmentations
>Order 66

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Why can’t we have a wholesome world of witches and wizards where everything is at peace?
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>>65202706
Y'ever watch Little Witch Academia? Methinks that's what you're going for. Also Constanze is best girls.
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>>65202668
>Jewish
>no tolerance for witchcraft
You have to be 18 to post here.

>rename it 32 Automag
>concentrate on 85-100 grain bullets
>market really hard on capacity, reduced recoil, and good expansion velocity
Does it do any better?
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>>65200697
First off, those are MAX pressures. It's rare for factory ammo to be loaded anywhere close to max spec, so it's very possible that in those specific examples the actual pressure is higher in the .327 load.

Also, there is some fuckery with how barrel lengths are measured. In a semiauto it's real simple, it's simply the distance from the breech face to the muzzle. For whatever reason that is not the method used for revolvers. The barrel length is the length of the barrel itself and does not include the cylinder. So in reality if you were to measure the revolver the same way as the semi-all the way from the breech face, the real functional barrel length is longer, probably by about 1.5 inches.

I believe your data, Ballistics By the Inch measured 1398 fps for American Eagle 100gr .327 out of a Contender with a 4" barrel and 1378 out of a Bond Arms derringer. Both of those measurements would have been to the breechface. They measured 1422 out of a Ruger SP-10 with a 3" barrel (not including cylinder).
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>>65200697
Much longer case can use more powder for less pressure. .30 super carry pushes a little powder a long way. From what i see .327 mag is typically getting loaded with 6-7+ grains of a given powder vs 5-6 for .30 for the same powder, some .327 is even getting upwards of 10 grains of a given powder where i imagine that might blow up a .30 sc unless it was with a very light and short bullet
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>>65198943
All they had to do was have more guns available chambered for it. When your only options are 2 S&Ws and an expensive Nighthawk 1911, it was DOA.
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>>65201274
>not even a nighthawk 2011
Truly they decided to be gay on purpose
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>>65200734
Can you use a magnum primer to boost the rate of powder burn to increase pressure and drive the bullet faster (more bang for the same barrel length, powder type and mass (assuming chamber and barrel can handle the increase)? Why dont 9mm use magnum primers?

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Post gear, discuss gear.
Feeling good. (Comfy threads lately.)
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>>65192506
>3811 anon, did you reach out to Verrett's to get this resolved? Should be a quick exchange if they're at least somewhat honorable.
Yeah, he said he's waiting to hear back from the Hesco rep. Sounds like its out of his hands and completely up to the manufacturer. I like the shooter cut so I just requested to exchange my SAPI L for an M. If they won't take it back I'll find a way to make it work.
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My 2230s should be arriving tomorrow, but I'm still deciding on my first carrier to put them in. I was hoping for something more streamline to conceal under a jacket if needed, but it appears that's going to be really damn tough with plates that are 1.2 inches thick. That's what I get for being a noob at all of this, but I'm sure I'll be happy with the plates anyway.
The Crye JPC 2.0 seems to be something that'll carry these plates and can kinda sorta lean into a concealable-ish rig without anything on it. Are there any other considerations I should be looking at given my circumstances?
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>>65200192
Yep, exact carrier set
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Why the fuck do things like this never pop up for me, it’s even in XL, when will I be so lucky

I literally cannot find the perfect helmet, it doesn’t even have to be high cut. Regular ACH/MICH is fine. Just rails or holes for rails and same for a shroud.
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The Russo-Ukrainian War, and the massive losses being taken by IDF armor in Southern Lebanon, have demonstrated that combined arms warfare as we know it is completely obsolete. In Ukraine, artillery and drones and defensive lines in WW1 style attrition positional warfare has largely replaced tanks. The Israelis are likely to adopt similar tactics (as they did during the 1982-2000 occupation) using heavily fortified positions such as Beaufort castle once they dig in for the long haul.

Tanks will need to adapt to firing from fixed positions while using APS and cope cages to fend off FPV attacks. AA vehicles will need to be be 1/4 of any armored force. Large armored formations will need to practice dispersal again as they did during the Cold War under threat of tactical nuclear weapons. No one will be able to mass enough armor for a breakthrough or the swift mechanized maneuver actions that dominated mid to late 20th Century warfare. 73 Easting will be as relevant to the planners of today as Mars-la-Tour will be to Cambrai and Ypres
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>>65198543
There have been a couple, Moshe. I'm thinking about the first one that was cooking off through all hatches right now.
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>>65194507
>The US' defeat by Iran
How delusional are you? The US isn't doing shit because Trump doesn't want to commit to sending men into the mainland and start another land war that lasts forever even though that's basically required for anything to actually work out. No one's ever won a war by farting around the ports. So now he's stuck in this pissing contest forever until Iran implodes (Which is fairly likely due to how untenable it is on their end and they're basically shooting themselves in the foot to try and break America in the standoff), some actual ceasefire is achieved which is very unlikely considering how often both sides keep bombing each other, or we get another Vietnam and pull out due to how unpopular it is.

That's why we have this situation where the US is basically in a holding pattern because Trump refuses to send anyone to actually enact regime change and take over the nuclear facilities. He's dead set on being known as some peacemaker and good person by the history books so him sending people to the mainland is off the table because it would be known to the history books as a really dumb move (When this entire situation is already a dumb move).
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>>65198886
>it was real to me
least delusional /pol/turd
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what a pathetic thread this is
at least try and make good bait
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>>65196172
I'm for more deaths, dont care which side

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>forged German iron war hammer dating to the mid-16th century
>24 1/2-inches with a 22 1/2-inch shaft.
>consistent patina with some pitting
>some residue from long-term storage
>no modern repairs

anyone have experience in purchasing ye olde arms? not sure what i should be looking for
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If you are buying anything old, try to get paperwork and maybe a chain of ownership. I have Ming vases that are almost certain knockoffs from a later period. Still made hundreds of years ago, but not nearly as valuable.
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>>65196078
i concede the point
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>>65195998
>>65196004
You're confused in terms of time frames and kind of armor. 16th century onwards you see the appearance of munitions armor, half armor or three quarters armor. The improvements in metalworking technology at that point made proto-industrial lines of production possible and armor that was thick enough to stop bullets from early firearms, at least from distance, began being pumped out as a response. These armors were denser and heavier but lacked refinement and custom, personalized fitting, covered only the essential areas and meant to be assembled out of generic parts made in a range of preset sizes. They stashed hundreds of them, armories like the Vaticans' and some in Czechia and Poland still have warehouses full of munition armors.
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>>65196071
rakes are at the other end in the garden center
duct tape in the shelf over there
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>>65195303
Munition armor or the like would not have been common in the time of Agincourt.
A sallet or kettle helm and brigadine if you were smart and just a gambeson if you were a poorfag, would be far more common for anyone below the knightly caste.

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I want a trap gun for under $1000. Willing to wait for a decent used piece, ideally something I won't feel the need to upgrade for a long time. What should I be looking for?
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>>65194073
For trap? Literally whatever decent 12 gauge you can find at a pawn shop for under $400.
Spend the rest on shells and practice so you can learn skeet.
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>>65194073
I've had a dream yesterday that this crackpot got killed. I had to check wikipedia for past tense usage to make sure. It was all weird, before that I practically erased him from my memory.
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>>65194073
My Maverick 88 works fine for me, But I've been thinking about getting a Henry break action single shot; that would probably be perfect for trap.
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>>65194073
>What should I be looking for?
a trap club with someone who just bought a new gun and is willing to unload his old one for a deal
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>>65194073
just use a baseball bat like everyone else.

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what if you could take your own weapon to war
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>>65199770
Everything you say is retarded. Have you ever tried un-retarding yourself? Like maybe you could read a few books and not post here for a few years.
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>>65199799
>brainlet can't argue and retort with namecalling
oh no, how terrible, i'm afraid i have to lower myself to your level.
can you be less brown ?
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>>65198647
The kind of shit your enlisted say to you as an officer kek
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>>65199730
Just beat the enemy to death and take his gun.
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>>65198622
Literally me. You’ll never find me glowies.


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