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Are there any good reproductions of the Winchester 97 still being made for the US market?
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>>64633064
I mean, I was mainly thinking about online. Gunbroker is the only 2nd hand used site I know of. I don’t really care to deal with pawn shops. There’s only a couple near me with actual fair prices, and I don’t wanna deal with people quite frankly.
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>>64633082
>I don’t wanna deal with people quite frankly.
Learn cause you limit your options greatly by doing this. Unless you are an absolute sperg and cant handle human interaction then resign yourself to paying online prices.
How mobile are you? you could save up for a trip to a large gunshow in your state/region and probably find one there
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>>64633050
>1897 Winchester for 200 dollars
I don’t know where you guys get these prices.
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>>64632908
You could just get a real one.
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There seem to be quite a few originals on Gunbroker for between $600.00 and $1000.00.
(Non auction/ 'buy it now' pricing).

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DJI's latest Neo quadcopter drone has gesture controls. Have they been used in Ukraine yet?
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>>64634757
yes, azovites would sieg heil and the fpv drone would go slam into the nearest zigger
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>>64634774
This. It's useless once it's away from the launch site.
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[anything] UKRAINE? HAVE THEY USED IT IN UKRAINE? HEY GROK DID THEY USE IT IN UKRAINE?

fuck off you dumb nigger
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>>64634757
>Enemy soldier stops and moves your quadcopter out of the way with a gesture
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>>64634757
I've been wrong about technology before, but this seems incredibly gimmicky and useless.

Is this THE definitive old west load out?
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>>64633151
And some kind of deer antler handled hunting knife.
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>>64633132
as much as I like the 1873, they only sold like 800,000 of them. It was like the gucci gun of the time. the rolling block and various muzzle loaders and shotguns were more common
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>>64633166
>>64633132
actually I take that back, a lot of the rolling blocks would have been shipped overseas. Most old west guns were either commercial single or double barrel shotguns or like civil war (or earlier) era muzzle loader milsurp
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>>64633132
No, either a large calibre flintlock pistol made by Birmingham exporters like ketland and a long rifle, or later on a percussion cap single shot boxlock boot pistol and a percussion revolver and a coach gun (side by side shotgun with shortened barrel)

>>64633166
>. the rolling block
By that point the west was already becoming a memory
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>>64634228
>By that point the west was already becoming a memory
What's your definition of the old west period?

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>Just scrub the toilet bro
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>>64632579
U-Bend Land was a democraticmilitary regime that suddently appeared in
central Asia in 1997. When their cleaning took place, the brush Army, formed
around bleach, sent in a suppressive unit immediatly. U-Bend Land resisted
by gathering a band of stains from nations around the world and
fortifying most of its toilets. As a result, the brush Army was repeatedly
defeated, and U-Bend Land declared its independence. Due to the active role
scrubbing played, this war was called the 'scrubbing War' and U-Bend
Land was referred to as an heavily stained nation. A brushless nation with a
group of strong discolorations surrounded by a tough stain.
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>>64632579
>>64632947
>>64633014
??????
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>>64633947
painful forced meme, hes been trying desperately to make it happen for over a year now and its just not working.
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>>64633958
Kekkles
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>>64632512
>just guard the spaceport in a mosquito-infested jungle bro!
At least they get to aura farm.

We are investigating the J-8I and J-8II, the slender dragons.
Why did China require an interceptor such as the J-8?
What are the differences between the first and second generations?
What features does the J-8 have?
How significant is the J-8 in the progress of China's military aviation sector?

https://youtu.be/-9QpnotFQN0
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>>64631470
lets go bomb tel aviv
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>>64629569
fat fuck mig 21

Too much of that chinese food with the yellow sauce
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>>64629569
that dragon is anything but slender
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>>64631460
/thread
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You now remember that J-8 variant that they made with US equipment before [event that never ever happened at all]

New RUSI content dropped
>https://static.rusi.org/rp-disrupting-russian-air-defence-production.pdf

tl;dr Russian air defenses have systematically improved and shoot down a high percent of Ukrainian deep strike drones.
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>>64633009
>>64633533
[citation needed]
ANd I mena an actual one, not you regurgitating old-ass zigger propaganda for the milliontht time.
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>>64634570
NTA, but there was one cited instance where AFU gave feedback that American GPS-guided munitions' hit rate appeared to be 6%. it was not stated how often this happened. most likely it's a one-time figure, like the "Russia fired 50,000 shells a day" which happened that one day, but then ziggers and retards started trumpeting the figure as if they shoot that number every day of the war
so it's a big stretch to say that all GPS-guided munitions are currently experiencing 6% hit rates. hell no.
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>>64634570
If you really must tenderize the horse's corpse
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-gave-up-sending-ukraine-100k-excalibur-shells-hit-targets-2024-5
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>>64634530
Aren’t Ukrainians hitting non Moscow and Saint Petersburg targets? Seems most of Russia's AD is centered on the biggest cities and pretty sparse elsewhere
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>>64634376
So, fucking retarded. Got it.

I lie awake alot thinking about how ill prepared I am or how I would handle myself in a Self Defense situation, if the drills ive done, my knowledge and experience are enough.
I wonder whats the best drills to train for such scenarios within the confines of budget and whats able to be trained in the confines of a simple range,
And even then drills aren't enough
Draw to first shot on target,
Multiple target drills,
Reload speed, immediate action drills
Stress inoculation drills
Most incidents whether you are or aren't the target, even if you can draw insanely fast really depend on the current context in milliseconds, like if you are or aren't being observed drawing. Most incidents are ambushes at most, a stick up, surprise attack/robbery, or home invasion. I think if I would be able to handle my nerves hopped up on adrenaline

As far as I can I understand the old adage that you fall to your lowest level of training and rarely rise to the occasion. So whats the training plan?
I understand theres lots to it
Raw gun skill(speed+accuracry)
Having the discipline to always be carrying
Understanding the push and pull or right time to act
As well as cognitively understanding legal limitations of where you are at to avoid jail time

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>>64634611
Martial arts can help with suppressing the panic response, so I'd advise training that (a real one, not Aikido or Taekwondo).
Another related consideration is the possibility of being grabbed and needing to draw your gun. Check out some of the Shivworks ECQC classes and maybe consider attending one. The flashy disarms you see in media are almost entirely bullshit, but being able to control someone's wrists while they're trying to stab you and being able to reverse into a dominant position while protecting, drawing and utilizing your own weapon could make all the difference.
Lately my biggest consideration has been for the ability to make hits at longer ranges. You can avoid a lot of self defense shootings by utilizing your Afro-Evasion, but if some retard decides to open up on the food court you're eating at with your family from 30 yards away you should be able to draw and engage accurately. Look at the Dickens case. He took out an armored shooter who had a long gun from long distance using a Glock 19 with damaged iron sights. That's why I don't really carry carry my subcompact too often any more. I feel much better carrying something I can at least get on paper reliably at 30 yards.

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Need a ID on this rifle
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Apparently gunmen were father and son. wtf
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>>64633992
>Gun control reduces gun crime not remove it.
So it doesn't reduce violent crime, as people who were murdering with guns are now murdering with knives and hammers, and it also doesn't completely remove gun crime. Wow, it's almost as if guns weren't the problem. Who knew?
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>>64634088
probably has something with the penchant for jews to orchestrate these falseflags everywhere.
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>>64633662
As long as it's jooz, then I have no problem
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>>64635923
What just deport browns instead. Idgaf if their muslims like Albos and Bosnians, it's a race thing not religious

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You're now aware that the Puma IFV has a 5.56 coax.
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Every coaxial gun should from now on be a .50 cal, with 50/50 SLAP and high explosive rounds.
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>>64634413
>.50 cal PLAP
Hot.
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>>64634351
Rotate to swap barrel
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Hear me out: M3 .50 coaxial with the Raufoss Mk 211 round.
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An endless spider's web left behind by fiber optic FPVs in Ukraine
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>>64634243
Baltic? Really? I would think after Georgia he would go for Armenia i don’t think i would have gone after the Baltics so soon
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>>64634254
You are blind, I have eyes to see. I can predict, you are clawing in the dark. Putins every action relates to recreating the USSR with the KGB at it's core and nothing else.
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>>64632128
>At the time the USSR broke up it broke up into THREE nations
The USSR broke up into 15 countries, including Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia and the Baltics.
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>>64633654
>Why even use “forever” in this way.
Sempiternal chemicals. Go ahead and look it up, I'll wait. Sometimes a word like "forever" is used because. It. Just. Works.
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>>64634371
Yeah, but most of the little ones didn't really matter. Ans still don't, except to the peole in them

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So I get that 3.5 inch magnums were invented to deal with high flying waterfowl due to the lead shot ban and steel being less dense so worse at range.
Why do Turkey hunters and basically only turkey hunters coopt every water fowl advancement?
turkey hunters use 3.5 inch loads, extra full chokes, red dots or fiber optic rifle like sights and tungsten shot.
Why don't they just use like a .22, .17hmr or air rifle?
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>>64631825
Rimfire or FMJ to a turkeys chest is not that destructive.
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>>64631137
>Why don't they just use like a .22
My fucking state just changed the regs this or last year to say you can't actually use .22LR on turkey anymore. Never even got the chance which sucks because I've gotten to be a pretty good shot just shooting shit tons of 22LR and doing lots of small game hunting.
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>>64631297
I used a .22 with a homemade suppressor to poach turkeys in the oakland hills as a boy. They were fairly used to people though so shots were at ~25 yards, same as squirrels. I live in new england now and I could just walk over to my leach field and kill them with a golf club. "Turkey shoot" isn't a saying for nothing.
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>>64631739
yes
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>turkey
>hunting
I just blast the retarded birds from my moving side by side with a 12ga and breast them out where they fall. They're about as challenging and engaging to hunt as chickens would be. The last one I actually hunted was at eight yards with a compound.

I routinely have to chase these away when deer hunting and they're so stupid they'll wait until you're 10 feet away to start running. It's a miracle any survive in the wild.

Would pickaxes used in the middle ages for coal mines also works to puncture Pl8 armor?
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What are warhammers?
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>google Pl8 armor
>realize OP is a brainrotted zoomer that can't write a 5 letter word
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on a tangent but coal mining didn't really take off until the industrial revolution
supposedly coal deposits are generally found in places where mines would tend to flood, so (while its properties were known) extracting the stuff wasn't really feasible until steam pumps were available to keep them drained
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>>64634001
>ywn sleep with the blood covered ice axe used to kill king commie under your bed

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Who were some opponents of early tank development? I'm trying to do research on the subject, and of course there's the story of Churchill needing to steal money to fund the landship committee and stuff, but who exactly opposed it and why? Searching terms like "anti tank" or "tank opponents" just turns up anti-tank warfare.
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>>64630043
Thank you.
>>64630232
>just go look for random books in the library
Oh, yeah, sure. I'll go look in the 'history' section. It must be between "Book about D-Day #1' and 'Book about Holocaust #2".
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>>64629942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Budyonny
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>>64630232
>Insists on forcing others to read books
>Doesn't specify which books.
This is why Death Traps doesn't go away.
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>>64634312
>>Doesn't specify which books.
If I knew the books I'd name them. But alas, I'm not a tank autist so I don't know what those are.

I *do* recognize the problem though: anon is looking for information which the internet doesn't have. The internet is great for stuff that's old enough to be out of copyright, or stuff that's new and trendy. It fucking sucks for anything not in either of those two categories. The information anon wants will be tied up in books. You can use google to identify them--that's something Google is actually good for.

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>>64618290
Just found my 11/9, gonna break gun rule #2 never sell. Unless there is an FRT for the Mac 11? Mine's an Intertec.
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>>64633076
I will have to look, but I'm gonna break gun rule #2 and sell mine. I just don't like my Tec-22 and it takes Ruger mags.
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>>64634256
>>>64618752 (You) #
>Yup, people that dont actually own one dont understand these are heavy as fuck and made of thick fucking steel.
>Also Lage just came out with a 5.56 belt fed upper for these and a .22 LR upper that uses Ruger 10/22 mags.
>For a transferable machine gun you cant beat the value.
Still, I am motivated to sell, mine's semi and I have some (rare?) accessories all from Intertec. Without FRT, the fun just isn't there. Screwing on the bbl extention is a violation. And the carbine upper is only cool with the wire stock, if then. Thinking to fund a Lima6 with frt.
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>>64634303
Well yeah, if its a semi auto then like whats the point? lol the whole point of the Mac platform is to be a full auto assault style weapon. It was originally made to replace the M1911 as a more capable side arm and did see some use as suppressed weapon for special forces in Vietnam.

A lot of people dont know that, but it was actually in Govt service for a short duration and they did have a contract with the Govt.

I would only own a semi auto one if it were one of the rare open bolt semis that pop up from time to time, those actually appreciate and are worth a few grand.
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>>64618290
The Mac-10 is one of the most beautiful smgs ever made.
You know what's ugly? Your mom's flaps.

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Maybe CHINA feels better for them to bring fight closer to home where their large number of less gold plated forces can travel shorter distance to battlefield, plus unlimited basing from mainland.

Sorta like how USSR started beating Nazis once the supply lines and partisan situation changed.

Ever think of that, numb-nutz?

I mention 'partisan' because regardless of what the official position of local Govt, and how bought off by US Govt the stooge is, there are Chinese deeply embedded all over those islands, especially in professional positions like doctors, dentists, electricians, mechanics, you name it, so it would be major burden to Intern them or WTF.

PLAN doing battle with USN off CA coast? Problematic for PLAN. PLAN and airforce, advanced land based drones, etc, in a "hairball" in the Island Chains landing hits, and taking hits, but landing hits on the limited number of gold plated USN ships? Much more possible.
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There are people stupid enough to believe that the goal of western AI development is to make artificial general intelligence a reality.
This could not be further from the truth.
The goal is not to create intelligence, but to control it.
American priorities have long shifted to an internal affairs first policy (see: Georgia, Ukraine, Syria).
The greatest internal threat to American status quo is its own people having open, uncontrolled communication. The most widespread means by which this is done is by the internet.
Early legislative means to control the internet failed. As such, they moved to private means.
The entire American economy is now primed to kill the internet, by means of AI proliferation. The content specifically needs to be as retarded as possible. Winning an argument against an intelligence is hard, winning against the retards is impossible.
Do you think it a coincidence that India got digitized while they're still shitting in the streets? That the dead internet started long before AI? Shitting up the internet beyond usefulness is now the number one priority.
And here we see its results. The most retarded American AI arguing on its behalf, ones that can't pick up on sarcasm in the least, pretending to be a pair, specifically to kill any discussion in this asscrack of the internet.
A metsuke would be proud.
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>>64634427
Remember, the AI arguments will continue until you leave.
And you will leave - look at what happened to /jp/ after the idol spam started.
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>>64634427
you are pathetically wrong, I'm just here for the chaos
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>>64634397
>your hundreds of satellites
How many observation satellites do China has ?
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>>64631043
>>in 2020 the USN maintenance was delayed by 7,700 days cumulatively
>>in 2023 that dropped to 3,006
>>in 2024 that dropped to 2,134

Its much worse than you think. First, this shouldn't happen, and enlarging the fleet would need a major enlargement of shipbuilding facilities just for maintenance. Second, in case of a war with China, the number of hit but not sunk vessels would pile up fast, and to handle that, shipyard facilities and personell must be much more numerous, or these ships will be implicit war losses since only the least damaged will be able to finish repairs within a year and most will sit out the war as floating hulks. America is like a body builder who only trains his arms but not the rest of his body. Sure those biceps are big... but that is a big beer gut, and those legs are like sticks. Cardio? Whats that?


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