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Why won't the US navy create a new variant of the F-18.

Replace the twin small engines of the F-18, with a single big engine of the F-35.

This would simplify the logistics of the US navy.
One engine to serve two airplanes.

Doesn't seem something very complicated or expensive.
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>>65645769
Technically speaking, the F-20 wasn’t killed because it was too expensive. It was killed because the whole point of the F-20, which was to be as advanced a fighter as the US could legally sell, was made obsolete by the US allowing the F-16 to be sold.
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>>65645793
Yeah, thats correct, but Northrop could still have sold it if it was significantly cheaper to buy/operate than an F-16, wich it really wasnt at that point.
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>>65645769
None of that is the reason for F-20's lack of success (which was world-historical and result of post-1970s global military technology development, Pentagon procurement *and politics* overall - nothing to do with the airplane itself or "its cost".... maintenance cost ongoing while-in-actual-service is the unmeasured never-accounted-for 'cost' of all weapon systems particularly prior to them being actually purchased or in production. muh 'Cost' excuses-comparsions for weapons in the post-1970s era are made-up fantasy utter raving total bullshit).

>to operate
See ^above.

>>65645764
>"didn't they do it"
No it was designed by Northrop in mid-1970s at which specific time interval the F-16 single-engine LWF had <--*just been adopted* by USAF (with an additional marketing hook from General Dynamics that the Fighting Falcon would become 'Europe's fighter' aka the fighter for 1970s NATO to adopt) and Northrop was trying to remain competitive in the size class of small fighters ; even though the Tiger II had and was still then doing well in other markets. See ^^above about world geopolitics, economics etc. in late 1970s-afterward, *everything [global context] totally changed* and during the 1975-1985 specific time interval so did U.S. arms manufacturer export restrictions on discrete target types of equipment fits for combat aircraft, etc.

>>65645793
Correct.

>'purpose of the F-5'
RE: the stupid hornet should never have been conceived. Even the OG legacy F/A-18 was at the limit of its justification (still was doing fine) as a 'light weight' USN multirole fighter parallel to USAF's F-16 and the A-6F, Tomcat 21 should never have been deleted from fleet carrier air wing procurement, but here we are in clown world.
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YF-17 was the peak of Northop fighter design.
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>>65645584
cat-shot brain

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Why is a 40 grain cci standard .22lr quiet with a silencer, but a blazer 40 grain .22lr sounds like my gun exploded? Serious question; I figured the grain ammount determined the power.
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>>65646229
>Anything over 1100fps is supersonic
Your advice was great; just a short caveat that temperature and altitude changes the velocity needed to be subsonic. For example:
>0°F = supersonic at approximately 1,050 ft/s (most .22 is supersonic)
>30°F = supersonic at approximately 1080 ft/s
>70°F = supersonic at approximately 1,125 ft/s
>105°F = supersonic at approximately 1,165 ft/s
Depending on where you live, some of your subsonic ammo turns supersonic during really cold weather.

>>65646235
Grain is an antique unit of mass. The ancient Egyptians, Mesopotamians, etc. were measuring in grains.
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>>65646543
Ancient egyptians didn't have bullets retard
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>>65646974
ackshually
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>>65646235
>I thought grain was how much powder was in the bullet

Are we caseless ammo now anon?
Otherwise powder DOES NOT go in the bullet. The powder is in the case, behind the bullet..
It's wild to think with all the information at everyone's finger tips in seconds. And yet we get statements like this.
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>>65646235
Imagine trying to fit 40 grains of powder into a 22lr lol

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What do we know of Israeli satellite weapons?
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>kikes are more trustworthy than Americans are
GRIM
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Huh, so the jews are keeping true to their claims that puccia will suffer for aiding Iran?
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>>65646935
JEWISH
SPACE
LASERS

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how capable are the salvadorans?
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>>65646234
>If you're just this loose and disorganized shithole which only has squalor and basically tribal warlords to offer, then yeah, I imagine that nobody will try to bother taking your country.
If a gas field were discovered in the Carribean Sea, watch that change *really* quickly.
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there is a potential for non shithole central america
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>>65641313
Don't you get the feeling they're auditioning?
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>>65640322
Tropico-ass presidente
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>>65640322
VIVIMOS Y MORIMOS POR TUS ORDENES JEFE

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in the early 2000s, America tried to prevent Israel from selling China an awacs and they did it anyway.
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>>65646792
The jews and the Chinese have always been on great terms with each other. They even invented communism and taught the Chinese about it.
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>>65646319
>>abject falsehoods
>We genuinely need to just permaban any IPs that have posted on /pol/, it's the only way to save this site.
One in a blue moon, usually while I'm on a 3d vacay, I'll open /pol/ and it's depressing how full it constantly is with blatant lies and hundreds of retards arguing about the implications of things that clearly never happened.
It's an entire board composed of OPs that could double as youtube clickbait.
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>>65646799
>Israel sold weapons to China in the 80s and early 90s, when everyone else was selling weapons to China, including the US
This tbdesu. For a period of time roughly a bit over a decade (circa late-80s to mid-late-90s), Western governments dumped what they saw as obsolete tech into zhangistani hands. Ex. the Goalkeeper CIWS, Crotale VSHORAD, Super Frelon heli (including the entire assembly line), various random small equipment etc.
This only cooled off after their rather public "fuck you, gwailo" moment with the Hong Kong handover.
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>>65646943
Sounds like my FB feed for some fucking reason
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>>65645642
>America tried to prevent Israel from
kek

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>red team Iran
>bro, we're just going to lure a CBG into littoral waters
>then we'll ambush them in an act of perfidy signaled by a call to prayer

No wonder the actual war turned out like it did if this Hollywood brained war plan was what their best mind in unconventional warfare could come up with role-playing Iran. How do you miss "just pound their bases and hqs to rubble with ballistic missiles lmao" or, "don't set the tone with a war crime"? Why is the American military mind so solipsistic?
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>>65646726
>>65646731
His type of conservatism got us into this mess. He ironically thought the Russian people would rise up against KGB mafia thugs attempting to seize power after a few years of democracy and that the Middle East and China would also become liberal democratic nations as a result of the inevitable course of history.
That sort of politics died in an Iraqi ditch.
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>>65646790

You can see the life leave his eyes when the post-9/11 world left his worldview in shambles. He was phoning it in with ghostwriters for every book afterwards. Kind of sad that he didn't follow the wacky alt-history universe he was building in his books right up to 2000, would've been mega kino.
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>>65646756
except Iran isn't just burning flags retard, they're actively arming and funding terrorists who have the intent to fuck with the global economy. Dumb Iranian shill
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>>65636441
If a simulation can't take into account such basic things, then it's a shit simulation with questionable results, and causes flawed conclusions, plans, and doctrine. Not entirely erroneous, but flawed.
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>>65646868
>>65646790
I have some sympathy for this worldview because it was a product of the Cold War. This was the world that had defined his entire adult life. When it was over, it really would have seemed like that was it, the end of history. One superpower, perhaps a few delusional terrorists here and there, but no dangers from other states, which were only just getting back on their feet and would eventually transition to liberal capitalist democracy.

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I am absolutely shocked im hitting bullseyes with red dot sight (no zoom) at 50 yards with hi-point 995 first gen (9mm carbine). The whole thing is plastic garbage except for action and barrel which kinda looks like its made from square tubing lol. Wanted to hate the gun, but it hits accurately once sighted. Surprised but not pleasantly or unpleasantly.
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>>65638836
Neat, another hipoint thread!
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>>65644438
You know switching the factory stock to something like this wouldn't be a bad way to sidestep fitting a double stack mag in the grip with hi point's chunky moulding
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>>65644645
https://www.hightowerarmory.com/Whats-going-on-with-the-MBS-95-double-stack-mag_b_5.html
Yeah; they thought about it.
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>>65638836
So glad they brought back the planet of the apes stock.
The newer one looks ass and I will never ever use the rails
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>>65638843
>widely known for working
Haha sometimes

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Are french Rafales any good? What planes are about its level of tech and quality?
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F-15 E but worse.
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>>65644650
It's pretty much a contemporary to the Typhoon in terms of capability, with the addition of CATOBAR capability. It's possible the additional weight associated with that may slow it down a tad but we don't exactly have any hard numbers for it.
Basically, it's one of the best you're going to get short of a proper fifth-gen (Indian pilots notwithstanding)
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>>65644650
>non-retractable refueling probe
>gets acked by chinkshit

Yeah no.
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>>65644650
>Generic gen 4.5 jet that France only developed because the Germans, Italians, and Brits wouldn't let them fuck up the Eurofighter.
I mean, it's a jet . . .

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Veterans Day should be in the last weekend of May and Memorial Day should be on November 11th.
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>>65646742
This plus it should be a federal holiday.
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>>65646742
Yeah that makes sense.
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>>65646742
All parades should be historical cosplay from the the most recent fight we deployed to, back to 1776. Have to have one of each or it's not official enough. And blank firing.
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Ever since Skyrim released on 11/11, I forgot Veteran's Day existed

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If you could import any Chinese gun you wanted, which one would you choose?
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>>65638283
The jeet bio weapon chinky was talking about
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Stop posting lewd chinks.
>>65638283
.45 broomhandle, naturally.
>>65639854
Insanely cool. Do they make it in 5.56?
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qbu-88
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>>65646361
>mythical sadistic concubine/fox spirit
Nobody really bothers with the name, just "fox spirit"
>human swine
That's more like a description, like "meat", not a particular idiom or slur
>dominant girl to force the submissive to piss herself
It's a woman thing not an Asian thing, because they have weaker sphincters than men

>>65646575
>how gay asian men are
mainly because homosexuality isn't formally proscribed in Asian religions, so repulsion is more of a natural instinct
>Asian women's fascination with prettyboy is often very perverse and even sadistic
Not really
Asian MEN are more sadistic towards homos


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>>65645985
>Wait, that's a chick larping a dude larping a chick?
>Why?
https://youtu.be/WDswiT87oo8

I think that's why they like being called non-binary.

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>In May 2003, Japanese freelance photographer Hiroki Gomi accidentally detonated a live bomb he was taking home as a war souvenir from Iraq. The incident occurred at Queen Alia International Airport in Amman, Jordan, while Gomi was on his way back to Tokyo.
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>>65636729
>>65636764
>Dr John Pimlottwho was the Head of the War Studies Department at Sandhurst's Royal Military Academy, was killed after two hand grenades exploded at his Surrey home
>John (49) died just 12 hours after returning from a trip to the 1942 battlefield of El Alamein where he lectured Gulf War Generals from the US Central Command
>Dr Pimlott, of Camberley, who was recently seen by TV viewers on Channel Four's Decisive Battles, died soon after the grenades exploded in his bungalow. >Surrey police believe he had been examining the hand grenades which were among his collection of military memorabilia in his study, when they exploded
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>>65637199
Is that the same king of Jordan who was on Star Trek?
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>>65646365
he was enthroned in 99 so yes, he was the random teal dismissed by neelix.
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>>65639199
Hmmmm
Reminds me of something...
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>>65645717
>Desk pop, happens to the best of us
Just Pardon Parcel of Grenade Launcher ownership.

>>65646365
>Is that the same king of Jordan who was on Star Trek?
>>65646471
>he was enthroned in 99 so yes, he was the random teal dismissed by neelix.
Now that's how you should use unlimited wealth and near-absolute power.

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We're still here General

Post Wood (furniture)
Buy Ammo
Shoot Ammo
Love (?) Ammo
Seceret club after 315
Call your Frens

thread theme~
https://youtu.be/fkBQAvAFjus?si=am_PPZ86IIWw-xpy

as always; no trips, no traps, no airsoft

last time on /brg/: >>65590260
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>>65643497
How is your Argie FN49? Is it worth current year prices?
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>>65643494
Apparently it comes from dood bro frat college fags a few decades ago. They needed a new way to sound even gayer than they already did
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>>65644206
I think its neat and fun. A really good and well built shooter but price wise I guess is up to what you're willing to spend. I just thought it was worth not getting into another cartridge so I can use my 7.62nato stockpile for it.
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>>65642867
We usually call them cubes in the Midwest. Any cheap beer that comes in 30 pack.
And speaking for cheap cubes, in my opinion Rhinelander is the best bang for the buck.
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>>65646100
>Rhinelander
Unironically would, and I don't een drink.

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PLA soldiers are struggling to teach Kenyan police personnel how to handle shotguns
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>>65646291
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>>65642396
Che Guevara had an ironically similar experience in the Congo, where his idealistic belief that all people were equal and that only material conditions set them apart was confronted by the realities of Africa. It was not just Guevara, but also the Afro-Cubans he had brought along. All of them "it's all so tiresome" moment
>Given the prevailing lack of discipline, it would have been impossible to use Congolese Machine-gunners to defend the base from air attack. They did not know how to handle their weapons and did not want to learn
>Indiscipline and the lack of any spirit of sacrifice are the principal characteristics of all these fighters.
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>>65643702
>look at how shit our instructors are
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>>65643709
He might have fucked up big time by creating /pol/ for epstein, but I still miss him.
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>>65646369
You are a "turd worlder" too, chang

Will it be the USAF's greatest achievement, or will it be a glorified balloon popper?
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>>65645498
Yes, a ship that is too small to do what it's needed to do even in the conceptual stage needs to be thrown out and reconceived. The BBG-1 is not too large for what it's intended to do; it's intended to do things that aren't strictly necessary. The Navy doesn't strictly require a replacement to the Blue Ridge class at this time, and in a couple of years they could design a separate class of ships to replace them. However, the cost of operating those two ships for years more, each with over a thousand crew, and then designing an entirely new class of command ship later on, may well cost even more than tacking those command facilities onto a dozen "battleships" and only result in two command ships for the entire Navy instead of 12. And where better to have all of your generals and admirals meet to coordinate joint actions than on the best defended ship in the fleet, which can intercept an essentially unlimited number of threats without ever running out of interceptors?
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>>65645614
Thank god you're not in control of actual naval decisions, you're retarded.
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>>65645619
>Thank God Congress is filled with superior minds like my own and not like those retards in the Navy that use their equipment every day but still somehow have no clue what they actually need
Not really the own you thought it was. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you know better than the Navy what equipment it needs?

So far your arguments in this thread have been:
>VLS:displacement ratio unimplessive
Chinkoid thought pattern completely irrelevant to operational performance.
>Railguns and lasers don't exist
Incorrect, as I've demonstrated.
>Nookular bad
Not a core feature of the design, as it was added later in response to people complaining that it was conventionally powered.
>DDG(X) is better because it's cheaper and justasgood
To the extent that DDG(X) is cheaper, it won't be as good. Deadweight tonnage is practically free, so a cheaper ship means fewer capabilities. Maybe it's that you think those capabilities are unimportant? You think the Navy doesn't need air defenses that are replenishable at sea and cost less than $1M apiece? You think the Navy doesn't need a cruiser once the Ticonderogas are gone in 2029? You think the Navy doesn't need a command ship once the Blue Ridges are gone in 2035?
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>>65645725
>>65645619
If it were up to me, the program would be called CBC-1 rather than BBG-1, as it's clearly not a battleship and the guided missile role, which is found across most of the fleet, is clearly secondary to its command role which will only exist in these ships and to a lesser extent the carriers. They would be conventionally powered at first, but with allowances for a later derivative to be nuclear powered, since as people in this thread have pointed out there's advantages to this ship being able to keep up with a carrier for long sprints. I would immediately begin the process of having another shipyard nuclear certified, probably Philly but maybe Ingalls or NASSCO. I would of course test the complete railgun system on land including the projectile, mount, magazine, power supply, fire control and all other relevant systems, but since all of these systems have been proven individually, I don't foresee any critical problems arising, so this development can happen concurrently with the detailed design work on the ship. I'd set a target date of 2035 for receiving the first ship, to be commissioned perhaps 2038 or 2039. The only change I'd make to the specs is to push for a more powerful radar. Honestly, I dream of a warship with an immensely powerful over the horizon radar that itself can double as an energy weapon as well as performing electronic attack, but I will readily admit that this is an unacceptable level of feature creep, so instead I'll suggest the completion of the originally planned 22-foot SPY-6 variant along with its as yet undelivered X-band component.
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I don't get why people complain about size. Welding steel isn't the issue here. The main cost driver is cramming systems into tiny spaces which results in having to take the entire ship apart when upgrading or repairing anything.

The main problem is a big heavier ship eats fuel. So that's really the only problem.

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Can someone tell what munition was used here, its gaza so its something the jews have and reportedly the guy survived.
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>>65646673
>Whites replacing brown monkeys is le heckin bad thingo kufar
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>>65646679
>Post my guns to btfo the no guns kike
>Janny tranny rage bans me
Holy shit that's fucking funny man.
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I wonder what kind of disability this is. Just very low IQ or something specific?
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>>65646711
>Totally btfo
>Can only /pol/post in response
Always funny how a simple image always shuts you niggers down. Now shoo shoo
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>>65646719
>>Can only /pol/post
Power of projection.


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