are there any guns being manufactured today that would be considered saturday night specials 30-40 years ago?
>>64883288Stupid palm pistol thing? What recent stupid palm pistol thing?
>>64885217For the DB380 and DB9, Diamondback sells the recoil springs and striker assemblies. For a Kel-Tec P32 or P3AT, Kel-Tec sells grips, extractor kits, recoil springs, takedown pins, firing pins + springs, recoil spring catches for 1st gen slides, recoil spring guides in nylon or steel, frame pins, mag catch + spring, triggers, trigger pins, trigger axis, trigger springs, trigger bars, hammer block axis, hammer blocks, hammer block springs, hammer spring pins, hammer springs, hammer spring catches, hammer axis, slide stops, slide stop springs, full hammer+spring assemblies, and extractors. Nearly every part aside from the frame, slide, barrel, and off-the-shelf screws is available from Kel-Tec directly on their website and all of it is dirt cheap.
>>64885231No idea, possibly a print since the only other thing I saw him selling was little plastic parts for other guns.Let me look for the listing
>>64888048https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1143428036Here it is.I was also reminded while rooting around for it that Altor makes a .380 version of their gun now.In case a single round of 9mm is just too much firepower for you
>>64885231It looks like it was SLS Nylon 3D printed, laser sintered from nylon powder.
What's the deal with antique* guns? Is counterfeiting and frankensteining a big problem like it is with antique watches? How do you buy a good one? Is CMP a meme? Am I going to lose a finger or go blind if I try to shoot with one?*I mean like WW2 era btw not 500 year old muskets. Maybe antique is the wrong word. Vintage? I don't know the words, pls no bully :(
>>64887438I don't claim to be an Ithaca expert but I think that some Ithaca 37's came with factory nickel, I've seen several of them over the years and the finish looked too good to be a bubba job. I bought a beat up nickled one as a project gun assuming it had been bubbaed. When I tried to blast off the nickel prior to cerakoting it was a serious bitch to get it off and the more I worked on it the more I came to believe it was factory rather than bubba's handiwork.>>64887794In the book Sixguns, the author writes about a man named "Hacksaw Tom" who supposedly traded a woman for a copper-plated colt .45 which the author later bought from him.
>>64888107Could have been factory nickel but that gun was certainly not in factory condition overall.Had a black plastic pump and grip in PGO configuration.Funky thing.And now I kind of want to shop around for a cheap win 1300 to do a duke nukem shotgun clone
>>64886405The term you are looking for is Curio & Relic (or C&R for short), with antique meaning 1898 or earlier under US law at least. C&R is 50 years or older up to 1898.C&R firearms have most of their value derived from being a collectible rather than a gun. You can actually get an FFL 03 as a collector and have them shipped to your home rather than a dealer.>Is counterfeiting a thing?It is, but mostly if you are getting into really high $ stuff. As other anons have pointed out this mostly happens with nazi stuff or older wild west/civil war confederate guns. It's easy to stamp "wells fargo" on an old cut down SxS shotgun and pretend it was a genuine stagecoach gun that was used on a route from Denver to Virginia City, or smack a Waffenampt on a Yugoslavian M48 and tell some fool that it's a genuine Kar98k.As a general rule buy the gun, not the story. If you are interested in a particular type of gun, learn all about it first. If you just want a shooter, know what makes a decent one. Be picky, be patient and walk away. There are lots of crooks and liars out there.Also I really don't recommend buying online unless it's from an extremely reputable dealer (who will typically charge a massive premium). You don't have a way to tell what condition an old gun is really in unless you see it in person. Some surplus guns were retired in generally very good condition such as Swiss K31s, and some like the C96 are often clapped out basket-cases. Fixing a really fucked up old gun is not always possible and it is never cheap.>Will it blow up?Typically not, but it depends what you are buying and what condition it's in. A Mauser 98 in good shape is perfectly safe. One with a deeply pitted bore or re-barreled by bubba with no headspace gauges probably not so much.>Is CMP a meme?If you want a Garand it isn't. Maybe a 1903 or M1917 but they don't carry those very often.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64886405>Is counterfeiting and frankensteining a big problem like it is with antique watches?I think mitchel's mausers does that. they also take like yugos and refinish them and lie and say they are k98s> Is CMP a meme?CMP is or at least was a government operated organization and they only sell legit stuff. Anything that isn't legitimately WWI/WWII era milsurp is labeled as such on their site, see the new production garands or the .22 target riflesCMP is basically the US government owned version of the NRA. Keep in mind the NRA and NRA-ILA/PVF are technically 2 different organizations. the NRA is a section 501(c)(4) nonprofit >A 501(c)(4) organization is a social welfare organization, such as a civic organization or a neighborhood association. An organization is considered by the IRS to be operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare if it is primarily engaged in promoting the common good and general welfare of the people of the community.[32][33] Net earnings must be exclusively used for charitable, educational, or recreational purposes[34].
>>64886630nuggets are usually fine, you can get a garand from the CMP. the only issue you might have with an enfield would be head spacing issues and parts from multiple guns. but no one really fakes enfields usually if someone's faking a gun it's going to be American or nazi
What would warfare be like if witches and wizards (the kind that fly on brooms, cast spells, make potions, etc.) were real and integrated enough in their respective national and ethnic communities to enlist and fight in wars out of patriotic fervor?
>>64837180Dis nigga gets it.
>>64883962Tomboy for pregnancy
is there anything hotter than a pregnant tomboy sucking your dick?
>>64875713Flat Earthers: The Earth is flatTolkien: The Earth WAS flat
>>64883962>thumbnail
Holidays and winter ops. Any front, any era. Post winter /k/ino. Almost didn't make it home in time to post this year's thread.
>>64882372Don't lick it either.
An A-10C Thunderbolt II aircraft is shown parked on the flight line during a winter storm at Selfridge Air National Guard Base, Michigan, on Jan. 12, 2024.
Winter warfare training in Norway, 1985. A British soldier, equipped with gas mask and rifle participates in chemical warfare training during Exercise HARDFALL.
>>64886719With the special Arctic Stock fitted to the rifle, with extra hardware for a side-mounted arctic sling.
>>64887034look with your special eyes
How does chamber size affect patterning and accuracy? Like I heard .224 wylde chambers are less accurate than dedicated .223 varmint gun chambers.Does this apply to other guns? Like will a shotgun pattern worse if you shoot 2 3/4ths shells out of a 3 inch or 3.5 inch chambers? If not, why don't all shotguns have 3.5 inch chambers?Do you get reduced accuracy if you use .38 in a .357, .22 short in a .22lr or .44 special in a .44 mag?
>>64888524we're on /k/, not /pol/, you gay retard
If anything, it would be the opposite..223 Remington has a narrow throat, but it’s short5.56 has a wider throat, but it’s longer than .223 Remington .224 Wylde has the narrow throat length of the .223 Rem, but the length of the 5.56. You want early engagement on the rifling and less freebore. Of those three, Wylde gives you the most engagement.
>>64888534why are varmint guns .223 only? I thought they were supposed to be more accurate
Your understanding is wrong.
>>64888546Because a .223 Remington chamber shoots .223 Remington ammo more accurately than a Wylde or 5.56 NATO chamber does. And not even good .223 Remington chambers can shoot 5.56 NATO ammo accurately enough for varmits, because 5.56 NATO isn't made for accuracy but for punching tiny holes in mild steel helmets at 600m, and the typical varmint doesn't run around wearing 1950's era steel helmets, mild or otherwise.
>>64885699A man has to protect his lemon grove
Gerald
>>64876385There are times to be stern, like when people are being faggots, but this is not one of those times.
>>64887422Fucking lemon-stealing whore.
>>64882468need those pics lol
Keltec appreciation threadAnyone here own one of these amazing weapons?>Yo, Mr Kel, should we make a AR?>Why? everone else makes one, le'ts make a hokey looking Bullpup >Oh, and let's make an FAL bullpup>uh... ok...>Oh, we need some carbines too, let's make a folding one and also a suppressed folding one>oh, let's make one based on the p90 magazine, with a short barrel of course>should we make a normal one?>sure, but make it in 22magnum and also give it a really long barrel with no option for a short barrel version like the other carbines>Shotguns? sure, but make sure they are all bizzare pup action bullpupsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64873454>I miss the days when it was like boomers and 20-somethings with aspergers collecting milsurp and dreaming of owning preban assault rifles both on this board and at any gun range you find yourself at.>20-somethings with aspergersSure.>boomers Yeah...let's not pretend like they weren't (aren't) a problem in their own right. I'd much rather take the clueless zoomer who got into the hobby because of social media over ranges being dominated by faggot boomers giving you the side-eye because you're not a fellow geriatric, or you're shooting a "notsee/commie" gun, or you're shooting a little bit faster than the "one shot per 3 seconds" rule, or whatever the fuck. The sooner the boomerocracy disappears, the better. At least the zoomers mind their own fucking business.
>>64880884Yeah.
Kel-Tec should have produced picrel.(they do have a .410 KSG, but this looks nicer)
>>64860622>>make one, but have it be 410 caliber, and give it a double tube magazinewhat's so bad about .410? getting hit center of mass with 5 pellets of 00 buck at full velocity is nothing to laugh at
>>64885425Ammo cost for one thing. Turks have made it cheaper, but the cheap 410 ammo I have seen was really sketchy. I don't think it would work in a KT product.
Peabody/Martini Action > Falling block > Rolling block > break action > bolt action (single shot or repeater) Winchester 1873 > marlin 1893/1894 > winchester 1866 > winchester 1876 > Winchester 1895 > marlin 336 > winchester 94 > .30-30 frame henry 336 action > winchester 92/86 > that fucking abomination 336 action Henry and smith and wesson both sell that uses a 336 action but it's like an .45-70 or a pistol cartridge
>>64886591those don't engage the rifling imo the martini sporters are cooler than the military guns
>>64886562>>.22 HornetHow 'bout this?
>>64886600A tale as old as time.
>>64886469Based narrative controller
Regardless of whether gunpowder was ever invented or not, knights were still on their way out. Plate armor had made mass producing armor cheap and quick, and enabled poor peasants to be armed with armor nearly on par with that of knights, with kings able to order several thousand sets of plate armor built, thus centralizing power under the kind and reducing the importance of knights (whose largest virtue had been owning enough land and wealth to afford good armor before). Likewise, the ability to cheaply equip his own troops with state-owned armor allowed unit formations of much higher disciplinary standards than seen before.Even if gunpowder didn't exist, pike and shot would've become the new meta. Just with high-power crossbows and even more plate armor than before.
>>64885275>eBay filename Link the auction
>>64885824I personally like to specify 'armoured lancers' when talking about the traditional battlefield role of the knight to avoid confusion
>>64884838>>64841722
>>64885264Which weren't noble knights but "professional" soldiers, partially made up out of former mercenaries, raised by the french king.Which is exactly what I said, wrapins and military technology didn't kill knights, structural changes and a strengthening of the central authority did.
>>64885340Come to think of it, legions were a sort of like and shot formation of the era.
I've been thinking a lot about the anti-personel heated sand and I think it needs modern updates..01" fiberglass rods and capscasin (sp?) dust in a shotgun shell with some kind of wadding that still allows anti-hippie deployment at close-ish range. That's my best guess.The goal being the people (or russians) hit with it now get to live with a non-lethal body wide bee sting sensations that don't stop right away.I think razor wire would really benefit from this too. Imagine if your hands tingled when you tried to snip it then you touch your face, no more wire snipping for a bit and you're blind in a war zone.Capscasin could have a LOT more uses. Imagine being in a trench and getting powder bombed with 3 million scoville. Or being in a APC that gets a dusting.
Get a USAS-12 and put a huge duck whistle off the gas block, now its not a destructive weapon. Its for hunting and comedy
>>64888097Thank you Canada.I'm thinking junk trubuchets. War zones are shitholes full of trash so what if you regularly patrol and anything that should be cleaned up just gets launched towards the enemy? Eventually they'd have to climb a trash mound to attack you.
>>64888065I think its doable with wire, but why? You already stabbed them, if they're dying from it then they'll die anyway and if not then you dont have a knife anymore
>>64888424Call me crazy but I'm betting on the "not having knif" being mitigated by how shitty it is to strangle someone when you have sawing shrapnel (words fail me) inside you. Wire is actually smarter- but that wound is going to close in shock over separated blade parts too.But over all, I'm more in tune with jamming 1,000 continuously stinging bees in the form of hot sand or peppered-glass something into people.
I think the problem with violence is that it doesn't keep going on, it's an event that ends. So if you use things that keep on being violent and won't stop even after yOU are done being violent, well...It makes for a nicer world.
Needed to find an excuse to dump this, might as well also post previous ones while I'm at it
probably my favorite greentext of all time
>>64856169All stories posted here are fiction only a fool would blah blah blah etc.
>$39.7 billion Rafale deal with France becomes India's largest-ever defence contract>Israel has agreed arms deals with India worth $8.6 billion in 2026, making Israel India's biggest weapons supplier after France>India cements France as its top defence partner with a record $39.7 billion deal for 114 additional Rafale fighter jets—nearly five times larger than any previous contract. The mega-order dwarfs 2018's $5.4 billion Russian S-400 deal and Israel's recent $8.6 billion missile package, clearly signalling India's strategic pivot toward Western military hardware.https://www.forbesindia.com/article/upfront/news-by-numbers/graphic-of-the-day-indias-largest-defence-deals/2991371/1
>>64877953Infinite elite human capital?What a steal!
>>64873949Imagine being mister Trappier right now.He must be so fucking smug, especially with the FCAS being over.
>>64877986India bomb chona sir
>>64873877Kek
>>64873661So this is an admission that the Indian attempts to build a domestic defense industry have categorically failed?
> Could have stationed his HQ on the East bank of the Volga, instead he stationed it on the Western front lines within sniper and mortar range> Made sure every man in his army was properly dressed for the cold, had a warm place to sleep and had access to at least one hot meal a day.> Never used human wave tactics, despite modern media depicting otherwise. His only advantage besides logistics was manpower and he wasn't going to waste it.> Not above putting hands on officers who wasted men and supplies> Universally loved by rank and file.> Regularly inspected the front lines personally.> Awards and Medals:Named Hero of the Soviet Union, twiceOrder of Lenin a staggering NINE timesOrder of the October RevolutionOrder of the Red Banner, four timesOrder of Suvorov, 1st class, three timesOrder of the Red StarMedal "For the Defence of Moscow"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64882366Military commanders in every country just want to do their job, even the majority of German generals during WWII were not Nazis or were even anti-Nazi covertly (von Paulus ironically became a communist during his imprisonment in the USSR)I'm sure if you took some random general in Iran or China and read their minds you'd see they don't really believe in radical Islam or Chinese communism but just want to be military autists.
>>64882796IIRC de Aguilar was shipwrecked on the Mayan coast and had gone native, learning the local Mayan dialect. Malinche spoke Nahuatl and Mayan so whenever they wanted to communicate with Aztec dignitaries they played a game of telephone with Malinche translating it to Mayan for Aguilar, and Aguilar from Mayan to Spanish for Cortez
>>64887854> military men don't care about politicsHow many coups in the history of man have happened because generals had political ambition?
>>64887368>we'll "tactical withdrawal" our way to victory
Tlaxcala was small but powerful, think of it like Prigo making an alliance with Ukraine and marching together towards Moscow
>do little raid>it does no damagewho writes this shit?
>>64885233>calling it a "strategic loss" for Japan is American copeThe entire point of their operation was to achieve a major strategic objective and they were forced to abandon that objective, aborting an invasion. How can you not see that as a strategic loss?>they would call it a draw or find some way to call it a winPerhaps calling it a tactical victory?
>>64887267>How can you notAs explained in the post>>64886568>You only stated one objective.That is ESL-tier parsing>HawaiiNone of the objectives there approached Hawaii in importance
>>64887339>As explained in the postIt wasn't.>That is ESL-tier parsingNo its pointing out you were only looking at one objective. >None of the objectives there approached Hawaii in importanceIt was a relatively extreme example taking advantage of the hypothetical to point out you were ignoring everything but attrition. Once again you use objectives, but only mentioned attrition rather than averting the invasion which was probably what >>64883345 was referring to.
>>64888064>It wasn't.It was.>No its pointing out you were only looking at one objective.Really, ESL? You really need me to spell this one out?>It was a relatively extreme exampleOh so now you're allowed to use hypotheticals and not be called out on it, but I'm not.>Once again you use objectives, but only mentioned attrition rather than averting the invasionFor reasons explained in the post.Go back and read.
>>64879307>get down ignite!
Singapore has a radar blimp. Why not get awacs?
>>64887901>ballpark alt of 4500m~Its a respectable horizon considering you could just make a wall of them along the island chains.
>>64888297>Manilla, Singapore You okay anon?
>>64887901*notices bulge*
I wish somebody built a dirigible (i.e. a [semi]rigid aerostat) AWACS.
>>64887901That's awacs.
