China will collapse soon. The country is in steep and rapid decline
>>61496568>jump you out of your homeNever happened to me and i live near big cities. Maybe stop listening to fear mongering retards on the internet and go outside, because majority of the problems you listed are not enough to effect me or you(if you live in america)
>>61496405That's so they can attack critical infrastructure and nuclear missile bases when WW3 starts.
>>61496363Imagine if the US is able to pull off the same level of stalemate proxy war in Taiwan and SK as in Ukraine.
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>>61496363Ohhr no, I am demorarized
Why aren’t modern militias and guerrillas using cannons?>cheap and repairable>concealed for stealth>mobile by vehicle and foot>obliterates anything it hits>versatile ammo>immune to EW and tracking software.Theres millions of them that are underutilized. Why hit someone with a howitzer when you can get the personal satisfaction of seeing them turn to red mist by 12lb iron.
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>>61473096>Versatile ammoKek, grapeshot go brrrr.>But it's a warcrime!Yes!
>>61475584>>19 yearsShe's not coming back, is she?
>>61492690She will one day. I just know it.
>>61491934>>61485396>>61485356Not what you guys are talking about but diabolo (dia-bolo) shaped projectiles are surprisingly stable out of smoothbores, flying nose-first and everything.
Is the crossbow a good SHTF weapon?
>>61483980>They were extremely unreliableShocking that no contemporary testing has been able to recreate this.>Barrels would heat up and clog with residueSo in other words they'd shoot many times in a row? That's not Extremely unreliable.>Handgonnes were wildly ineffective as a means of killing someone.Mythology. All contemporary accounts and modern testing have shown them to be reasonably lethal. >reloading took the better part of a minute.practiced hands could easily reload a simple handgonne and fire again in well under a minute, this should be obvious to anyone.>Rifling got fouled easily and didn't have the proper twist rate to begin with.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>61484320>Did you really think Medieval firearms would be practical?They were used at a huge scale and there was an entire industry for creating black powder, but I suppose you (who's probably never fired a gun before, much less a black powder one) would know best.>Wrong, professional armies used Flintlocks made by experienced gunmakers.Wrong on multiple accounts.First, armies made aggressive use of handgonnes when they could get them. They were used for siege defense a great deal, and the Hussites used thousands of them from the tops of their wagon-forts. Second, your bizarre statement not only insists handgonnes weren't commonly used in their time (they were) but also implies that Matchlocks (again, issued by the tens of thousands) and wheel locks ALSO werent common in their time, which is patently absurd.The use of Handgonnes at a large military scale is well known and documented. There exist thousands of examples in museums, there are many depictions in art, there are descriptions of their use, even diagrams of their construction. This isn't a point you can argue.>Are you suggesting that some internet articles, pissed on logs, and leftover plumbing is going to equal century long gunmaking traditions?What a dishonest and weasel like way to argue, shifting goalposts like that.
>>61489941>My evidence for this isThe word you are looking for is supposition.>most depictions of Handgonne's feature the user in plate armor. If this was a weapon that could reliably pierce armor and was widely used then that armor should be useless.This is so wrong it borders on some kind of bad joke.It's hard to even know where to begin.First off, *depictions* are not absolute evidence, undercutting your entire point even if the rest of it made the slightest sense.Second, plate armor was always different thicknesses in different areas, meaning a plate that could stop a shot in one area might not in another.Third, There was never an army in which the majority of men had suits of full plate armor, meaning that even if a shot from a handgonne COULD NOT penetrate anywhere on a high end suit of plate armor, there were a dearth of targets it COULD penetrate. Fourth, Barding for horses was often thinner than chestplates and helms for men.Fifth, for most of history ranged weapons coexisted with armor they could not reliably penetrate, including the medieval period, with even the strongest bows and crossbows struggling to penetrate plate armor at close range, and even chain+gambeson at long range. Sixth, your point presupposes that something being widespread must also mean that EVERY army had them, or deployed them in great numbers. If one in ten armies had them, that's widespread. If one in two armies had them, that's widespread. No matter the case, armor proof against other weapons would absolutely be useful, particularly as the line between "lethal" and "able to stop a determined charge of horses or deep column of men" is about ten miles wide. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Anyone in the modern world who wants a single shot muzzle loading firearm that can penetrate a man's torso at can build one with minimal resources, which can be fired with powder made using common resources. Black powder produces less pressure than smokeless powder, and is a more "forgiving" explosive to work with, and all realistic issues of a barrel's resistance to said pressure can be solved by a simple increase of scale. People are able to fire modern shotgun shells consistently through slamfire shotguns made of regular old steel pipes. People have made black powder guns out of wood and even rolls of paper that will fire a single shot with lethal velocity. The idea that a single shot smoothbore is somehow a great challenge for a modern man is as patently absurd as the idea that a single shot smoothbore could not easily be employed as a weapon of ambush against a modern enemy.
>>61447953It's a wishful, at best: waiting in ambush weapon, again animal. Shit has no range, and insane ballistic drop. Meaning aim above that shit will drop like a rock.
You now remember the DOD made Khakis in ACU cuts for deploying civilians.
>>61495620>fat bodiedThe uniforms are designed to be loose to prioritize movement and comfortablity. Which enhances the soldiers performance. Sorry that your country provides skinny jeans ass uniforms.
>>61495485Chocolate chip was short lived for gpod reason.
>>61494210>wear normal street clothe>rips while doing the job>deployed overseas, likely no retail shop>even if there is one, they charge premiums against foreigners>use your other set of clothes >rips again>ad nauseam >has to utilize the bases PX to get adequate clothing Its more logistically simple and allows people to get new clothes when it wear and tears.
>>61493995Some of them were made by SNC, most of them are commercial now.t. was in 3/509
>>61497273>>61493995I want to add, 1/509 is the permanent party OPFOR at Johnson. 3/509 has been tasked out to support before, and they'd just hand us olive drabs for the rotation and we'd turn them back in.
Picrel are Fallout 4s post apocalyptic pipe guns, are they viable? How would the ideal gear for a SHTF scenario look like and how would firearms make a comeback in the poast-apocalypse? Which Armour and what weapon types would presist or make a comeback? Would we see yellow cross poisonous gasses again?
>>61496508>>61496312>>61496253/thread
>>61496253>Blurry imageAnon, it looks fine to me.Maybe you're going blind? I can read it perfectly fine.
>>61494117No point in America. There are plenty of guns already. The limiting factor will be ammunition.
>>61496499why are you such an angry little newfag?
>>61494117Medusa RevolverTaurus Judge RevolverPump Action Shotgun you know how to scrap build parts for and reload using anything.Kukri/Machete/Axe you know how to scrap grind an edge onto and split with.The rest is out of my range of long term walker material. I just know you need to be able to run any ammo that's not a tapered cartridge, and then turn any such cartridge into shotgun shell reloads.>all 9mm based pistol cartridges>all .45/410 based cartridges>feed the shotgun
I'm looking to build my own .45 1911. The kits I've found online are either $1000+ or they've fucked with the cosmetics to make the gun appear "futuristic". Any recommendations for an authentic 1911 kit that won't break the bank?
>>61493778>bridgport machines to be bannedjust buy the hand crank rail cutter from Matrix, its faster and easier than setting the lower in mill. according to my friend who asked
>>61490574I agree that licensure should pale in comparison to real experience. There are some very talented anons on here like the lego lower ryan gosling sigma. Theres also some hilariously incompetent retards on here. Let the latter learn from experience and know that tommorrow there will be another thread with a different OP asking the same thing. Makes for good /k/ humor threads when they post pics.
>>61494072Pressure too high given the breach style or what? I would think the majority of the force of firing would be contained within the barrel and slide. Isnt that why the retention tongues can afford to be so thin?Also doesnt the short lived 90two have a poly lower? Where the fuck is burt?
>>61494684I never got too deeply into it, that was just consensus in the diy communities I frequented, that they weren't really worth building because of some sort of inherent structural weekness.
>>61494684Its the the locking block needing something solid. Other pistol slide barrel designs are mostly self contained where the frame just holds things like the mag and hammer in the right spot and rails to guide slide motion.The barrel on a 1911 is locked to the slide.For a 92 its locked to the locking block and the locking block is to the frame.which makes the frame more critical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbmK1DH2A0What's your thought on CTM-290? Poland will be mass producing this soon.
>>61487915Are you having a stroke, Fritz?
>>61489217>A controlled test is empirical of an EW environmentThe only time a Hyunmoo was fired in a retalitory way it managed to fall on it's own launcher. South Korea somehow made their shitty Iskander copy shittier than the original.
>>61495252They've developed an EW resistant guidance unit including GNSS/INS. Also, Russia's jamming on GPS signals made GLSDB pretty much useless in Ukraine so here's some food for thought.
>>61496050>They've developed an EW resistant guidance unit including GNSS/INSYeah the original video mentions that, but says its still much worse than military grade GPS. So instead of getting jammed by a Zero Flipper its jammed by any military EW system.>Also, Russia's jamming on GPS signals made GLSDB pretty much useless in UkraineYeah because they are tiny little bombs with very little room for ECCM. Meanwhile Russian EW hasn't done shit against the larger HIMARS. Proper ECCM in a large enough warhead is still plenty effective and any Korean weapon is still worse than the neutralized SDBs.
>>61496288>I-It's bad because...IT'S JUST BAD! OK?!!Literally no one knows it until it is under such circumstances. Also, the malfunction you mentioned >>61495252 had nothing to do with EW, so keep your facts right.
What is important is for the bullet to get there and have enough force.
>>61492672Okay anon. Think that instead of a bullet, we have a football. Proper technique puts a spin on it, so as it travels through the air it is stable. Since it's stable a quarterback can throw pretty fucking accurately, and far.Now try to lob it by grabbing one end twisting your wrist so it tumbles end-over end. You can't get the distance and you can't really judge where it ends up.People ITT will bring up how keyholing hurts terminal ballistics (and it does) but if your initial ballistics are fucked I don't see why bringing up terminal even matters. You're probably not hitting anyway.
>>61492941You foreign devils don't understand communism. The bullet hast to travel sideways so all of the bullet hits something not just a few rich pointy points in top.
Wait so how is that fort scott munitions "TUI" ammo any different than whats being shown in the China webm
>>61492941Don't forgot "those holes are the bullets bouncing against the wall and coming back out"
>>61492672Tumbling bullets yaw and lose velocity much quicker. But yeah, in principle they could cause nastier wounds on flesh at close range (though it compromises other factors in lethality, a regular bullet hitting bone can shatter it while a tumbling bullet could just roll off it and exit out the back); its just that few people would be willing to have their gun throw boomerangs at significantly lower accuracy in exchange for the unpredictable possibility of maybe causing a wider wound cavity.
It's evolving.>Russians once again storming Krasnohorivka on such "Turtle" with powerful EW systems.https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1783420188261584949>More Russian blyatmobile's appearing in the streets of occupied Donetsk.https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1783397343229776159
>>61493942You will ride the hobo tank destroyer rust gazebo and YOU WILL BE HAPPY
>>61493942Fuck your spider tanks, fuck the russian barn tanks and fuck the potential Leopard 3s. I just want to see the Tiger 3.Teutons, you must embrace your past to conquer the future. You know who you are. Do not shy away from it.
>>61493942Fingers crossed we get AW megatanks instead, like that other anon said
>>61490054>Mad Maкcим lol
>>61489553cope
*Outmaneuvers your plane*
>>61496531>unlike Midway, it was not possible to determine where the Japanese would strike and crucially, when.sure thing it wasn't
>>61496350>allowed for raids like Pearl Harbor, the Philippines and Darwin to be so successful.because the operational range of Zero fighters were the critical success factor for Pearl, it would have been totally defeated if not for that amirite>Japan started armoring and putting self sealing fuel tanks on the Zero.and I'm sure it didn't affect operational range one bitand the Zero totally didn't need them before
>>61496537>America just let half it's navy get sunk because, uh, they wanted to keep their intelligence efforts secret>crippling the entire japanese carrier fleet on day zero 3,000 miles from home wouldn't have been the most incredible start to the war imaginable
>>61496679Do you mean that the US should have just _attacked_ Japanese navy?Give up fucktard, I already had to teach you that Midway wasn't a "luck or Providence" and I gave you the source which further explains that SUCCESFULLY COMMANDING A FUCKING WAR includes making morally vague decisions. Have you even heard about "hold your ground no matter what"? Fuck off idiot.
>>61496732I am not the same person you were talking to about Midway. "Morally vague" and "spread your asshole open for Kido Butai at Pearl" are not the same thing. If the US knew about the attack, then 'Midway' should have happened on Dec 7th off Hawaii.
Weekend EditionTrade, create, and sell your patches!Post good design ideas and maybe a patch store will make them.>Last Thread>>61358538>Where can I buy that sweet patch/ find patches?https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-list/>Classic Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD (2016)>other listsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>61493394placed an order, nice to see you back. Hopefully its successful so we can see some more neat designs in the future
>>61493394Bought a few patches! Never bought anything like this before so I'm pretty excited.
>>61449718astute observation, i believe it does (though there does exist a remote possibility it could be "registered nurse")
>>61493394In the patch threads darkest hour Koz returned to light the way.
>>61464786I'd cop
Sickened, But Curious EditionDiscuss your favorite overpriced wooden guns. No plastics allowed.Previous: >>61347299
>>61490338Yes
>>61490730You can't really double charge most rifle cartridges since it'll just overflow.
>>61490338>necks crack every timenot EVERYTIME. just sometimes.
>>61494769great looking wood
Buks getting M30A1 GMLRS'dAnd other radar as well.But oddly, AGM-88 HARM never given as the AD killer, despite Ukies often posting PR vids of launches.TOTAL BMP DEATHWelp, hope the brick factory in Krasnohorlivka was worth it...
>>614905812 more weeks to a total collapse, amirite.
>>61490568>D-20>Designed 1947Jebus.
>>61490568>clearing the skies for our falconsBased.
>>61490979No, there was a smoking accident in Omsk today.
>>61493335there are still several thousand of these in storage, from most modern gun types are just a few hundred left https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FozvYM2Zhpw
Post desperate defense products>South African company Armormax unveils TAC-6 6x6 vehicle built for French Special Forceshttps://youtu.be/LYoaGRuXPms
>>61496219Shut up faggot.https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61310390
>>61496097Wouldn't argon work for that?
>>61496044I wouldn't call an APC design straight from the early 2000's a revitalization of the defense industry....
>>61495944>The only thing wrong with this is the 6x6 layout, just leave it 4x4,But 6x6 on smaller wheels provides flat bed.
I which we recommend /k/-relevant books, duh. Me: The Zone series by James Rouch. Set in a near-future (for the early 1980s) war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. The war has turned into a stalemate after the Russkies unwisely put East Germans and Polish units in the front line who rebelled on the first day, giving NATO a chance to stabilise the line. The war is now confined by tacit agreement to a devastated swathe of Germany called The Zone, a slaughterhouse where anything goes. The books follow a ragbag unit of American, British and German soldiers, misfits who get given all the shittiest, most dangerous jobs. Some horrifying scenes of gore-porn traumatised me when I picked these up as a kid but they're surprisingly well-written with interesting characters.
>>61490816>Are these actually good?Don't expect any searing insights into the human condition or anything but yeah, they're entertaining war-porn slop.
Just finished Tigers in the Mud, the memoir of the tiger tank commander Otto Carius. It was pretty good, and Carius had a good sense of humor. Kramer from Seinfeld also makes a cameo as his gunner and shoots down a Russian plane with their BFG.Going several thousand years into the past, Scipio Africanus: Greater than Napoleon by Liddel Hart. A really good account of the campaigns of Rome's greatest general and statesman.
Picrel is great because the subject was a wild weasel running f105 SEAD raids in Vietnam and then he climbed the ranks in USAF until he was commander of desert storm. Really gives a broad Birds Eye view of how the military works from bombs to diplomacy
Hammer's Slammer's
>>61490816>I'm a big fan of things like Roadside PicnicIn that case you're probably better off reading Strugatskys' other works. The Far Rainbow is my personal favorite.