Could we go over the warfare and equipment as described by Homer and consider their realism and what real life equivalents he wrote about? Figured this is a better board to ask than /lit/ or /his/. Let's start with the fact that the Trojan war would have taken place in the first years of XII BC, but Homer would have written about it around 300 years later. The tactics and gear described by him are supposedly anachronistic, but he did consciously archaise, too. The result is probably something like a bit fictional version of X or IX BC warfare, but hopefully you'll be able to identify the equipment described and tell whether some things happening in the battles could have truly taken place, or if they were pure poetic fabrications.I want to start with a few questions and then move onto quotes describing the gear itself.First of all, did duels between leaders amidst battle really happen? Sometimes it's just someone spotting another leader and them simply moving towards each other to fight. The way it's described, it doesn't seem like they're fighting amongst their troops. There's also the fight between Paris and Menelaos where both armies stop, take off their armor, the leaders make a pact and only then does the duel take place. Could anything like that have ever happened?Secondly, there are constant mentions of people taking the armor off their fallen enemy, and it always happens right after defeating them, right in the midst of battle. I found it difficult to imagine, two huge armies facing each other, one leader falling and the other just putting his weapons away to take the armor off the corpse and then, I'm guessing, putting it onto their chariot. Seems like a very dangerous and strange thing to do right in the middle of a battle on the very frontline between two clashing armies. Is that something that would have happened in history at any point? I always imagined they would have taken the gear off the fallen after the battles had ended, instead.1/5
>>65263445>the reason why the medieval muslim nobles often went to war on mares instead of stallionsIs because a Mare is generally a quiet animal and this allowed the muslims to sneak away instead of fighting or use ambush tactics.A Stallion is a noisy horse when compared to a Mare, but smells better than the muslim. For obvious reasons a Gelding is the superior horse for cavalry combat.
>>65263087>First of all, did duels between leaders amidst battle really happen? Sometimes it's just someone spotting another leader and them simply moving towards each other to fightAs recently as the 1300s, such an encounter occurred between Robert the Bruce and Sir Henry de Bohun during the Battle of Bannockburn.Sir Henry spotted Robert out in the field and charged him, only to be cut down in single combat when Robert cleaved through his helmet with his axe, crushing his skull.
>>65263204>Strength: 30>Power Throw: 10>Throwing: 400>Equipment: Peasant Dress, 4x Stones (kicks only for melee)>Inventory: 3x Butter, 27x Stones"Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds"
>>65263087It's basically the Star Wars* of its time. A mishmash of genres, tropes and anachoristic weapons and tactics. Treat it as low to middle fantasy instead of history.*Seriously. Star Wars is cowboy western, samurai, WW2 Battle of Britain x Pacific War. People fight with swords while starships can blow up cities and planets.
>>65265501>As recently as the 1300sSo how does that happen, do they just break the ranks and have nobody follow them to fight each other, or did that mean that both of their units clashed and they fought within that clash?
Starting out with a few photos from the Army museum in Stockholm. Nothing I haven't pointed at camera at before, but the camera has been upgraded since last time there.
>>65259725>is this the one with a f16 hanging from the celing?No. It does have an S-tank parked out in front though.
Good thread. Thanks for contributing
>>65257870These were actually emergency self defense weapons for women, they'd just stick it inside and fend off their assailants.Men could use it too supposedly, but it was kind of hard to see where you were aiming.
>>65258216Oh hey, I was there a couple months backThe Lahti AT rifle and Carl Gustav M/42 were my main reasons for going. Sadly most of my photos were using this shitty Ilford Delta 3200 and look buns.
>>65258216i think that was the first real gun I ever got to tough, back in 2003 or so
AK General /akg/This edition is brought to you by Adidas>Thread #2097Old: >>65196277
>>65265352>will they hold zeroI imagine some will and some won't, probably 50/50 maybe 60/40 will to won't. Chinkshit isn't bad by default but QC is hilariously nonexistent. That's where the money gets saved after all.Fwiw it lives on my WASR so less recoil than a shotgun, more than a 5.45.
>>65265824brrootthhheerrrr>>65266061How has zero been?
>>65266079Couldn't tell ya I haven't been to the range in months.Plumbing is expensive work. Really eats into the ammo budget.
Two SAM7SF questions. The ambi selector throws me off. Can I fit a retaining plate into it? Will surplus milled FCGs work?
We will be seeing FPV drones with 800km range soon
>>65262104FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME, DAVE, YES! I DON'T CARE HOW MANY OF THOSE SHROOMS YOU ATE, CHARLIE'S IN THE WIRE AND I NEED YOUR ASS ON THE FIRING LINE!
>>65262353Alright alright keep yer fucking panties onWho are we shooting at again?
>>65260566FYI, anything over ~100-150km is probably going to be impossible in the short term.Anything over 200km will probably take new technologies to be developed or matured far enough for commercialization and military use.Currently I'd expect ~80-100km maybe 150-175km over the next 2-3 years, but going beyond that will take time/development $$.
>>65260566India-tier littering
>>65260842NTA but Ukraine V Russia is pointless to even pay attention to as an American.>Wow! RC planes with dynamite are unbeatable for armies America circa 1980 could have walloped effortlessly!
I do not recommend 300 blackout rifles, it jams too much, accurate to 100m but gl with consecutive shots before it jams.
>>65258139Stop poaching the forest rats anon
>>65251666Based satan
>>65255808>implying 556 isn't completely fucking useless for anything civilians need to doAnd what exactly does that include? If you need something dead 5.56 has a proven track record>>65256348you missed the key word of modern
>>65259379Sorry>modern 30-30>goes in anything designed the last 100 yearsSince when did fudds learn how to troll?
>>65255808>implying 556 isn't completely fucking useless for anything civilians need to doPenetrates a quarter inch of hardened steel, can safely drop any game animal, kills a man further than any casual shooter can hit with anything, goes through IIIA armor.
In a letter to Ian Fleming, Geoffrey Boothroyd called the Beretta 418 "a woman's gun." Ian was so affected by this critique that he replaced James Bond's Beretta with the Walther PPK in his next novel, 1958's Dr. No. Do you think Geoffrey's critique was correct? Was the PPK better as James Bond's primary spy sidearm?
>>65264992It's a pretty reasonable approach to take for someone who acts in film, when you've got the background he has you gotta play into it and exploit it, including some exaggeration.Having a certain kind of aura, presence, charisma, that can do SO much by itself. It's why Arnold Schwarzenegger largely did mediocre acting overall (except Terminator, he really aced that), but he's got the looks, physique, personality, and most importantly, charm, that he's just kind of perfect for playing a certain larger than life action hero type.
>>65265396'the least grounded spy fantasy franchise is not very realistic' is a pretty low bar for adulthood, and I don't think 'they' have much to do with it.
>>65265396>Bond's what they want you to believe it's like, the same way that Rambo is what they want you to believe it's like. Nigger, nobody goddamn thinks this. Do you see the ridiculous shit in those movies?
>>65265396>Neither matters because that's not what the job's really like, it's a fantasy and a recruitment advertisement.No way really? I actually thought James Bond was a perfect reflection of reality and more of a documentary than a silly little movie series to watch for fun!>this is a board where people think .22 bounces around in the bodyI have never seen anyone say that here but also Britain did issue out Walthers in .22lr during the cold war lmao.You sound like a teenager who thinks they're the first person to discover that James Bond is in fact a work of fiction.
>>65262842are those 3 expansion chambers on the suppressor?
Mini 14 thread.
>>65262650I have the folding stock on my Mini and I absolutely love it. Got a fixed 3x on it and it shoots great. Take it out to 100+ yards without much issue. Also kicking a magazine out with a fresh one is so kino.
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>>65263725It's the gun in the shell in a bunch of those 80s/90s scifi action movies, I think mostly because it was reliable with blanks.
>>65265556Same reason Beretta 92's are popular. All you really need to do to make one blank ready is to cut the tabs off of the locking wedge and they run blanks really well.
>>65264791True, but a new stock could probably be made that has a small magwell that wouldn't look *that bad*.
>TankArchives/k/s opinion on this guy?
>>65266309also his webblock (at least the old stuff) is fairly biased if iirclike I remember him arguing that the Panzerfaust was overrated and that Molotovs probably would have performed just as well
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>>65266313>blockblog*
>>65266313>also his webblock (at least the old stuff) is fairly biased if iircalso can't forget the one time he argued that the loss-ratio on the eastern front was 1:1 by comparing Soviet permanent losses with Axis permanent + wounded
>>65266305I find the model kits to be extremely corny. I dont know why, its rationally a perfectly normal way to provide an example of something; and that other guy who uses knockoff lego doesnt bother me, but for some reason the model kits are goofy to me. That aside, hes okay.
What kind of trunk gun would you use handle this. I personally would go with a bubba shotgun
>>65262496The ATF loves boots
>>65261616Did you misclick or misread? There's nothing wrong with wanting MONSTERS in your MONSTERfucker novel. Foids and tumblerinas simply suck at writing monsters.
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>>65211907Meds
Just curious, if you have neither, and could have one of them for free, which one would you choose?
>>65265429Oh I forgot I put a hera cqr foregrip on mine for max funni space gun
Are soft cast HPSWC +p .38spl as good as everyone says or is it just fuddlore?
Is the vortex shotgun sight any good? I saw it at my LGS and thought of putting it on my 590. I only have personal experience with Holosun, SIG, and Aimpoint dots
>>65262889After owning a G36E (SL8 conversion) and SG550, and recently buying a G36C clone, I think I prefer the form-factor of the shorter versions.Both the G36E and 550 are stupid front-heavy, so the shorter versions feel way more balanced, plus they lend themselves better to suppressing.
So I just got a killer deal on a thermal scope.Always wanted one, but never thought I would get one this soon. It begs the question however, I don't have anything to put it on. I love the idea of a decent suppressable, decent range/power caliber that can sort of create a point and click platform within a few hundred yards. I'm not super invested into anything yet, I know there are a lot of these "ARC" cartridges being shilled these days that might fit my use case. Maybe that is a good play and just get an upper i slap on something and call it good?Open to just about anything through
Haven't seen one of these in a hot minute
>>65247822Standard Mexican >>65262730Gay Mexican
>>65229502anything else would be wrongmoka akashiyaseax95 toyota crownChinese buffet mystery meatfn falmodel 10angry orcherd 6 pack
>>65265786Pic related highly recommended if you can get it.
>>65265828a fellow cider man you are a man of great choice
>>65245488>1895 and cap and ball revolverwat
Everything else is a downgrade.
>>65260528>I eat plain spagetti and boiled potatoesYawn.
>>65260528closebut thats not an 11.5 PSA AR and a gen 3 g19/rxm
>>65263730The Tongo Tongo ambush loadout
>>65260528>no smokes>no flashbangs>no nades>no armordesperation buy round? are we rushing B?
>>65260528Perfection if not for the fact that x39 is a dead caliberI hope you bought plenty of spam cans back in 2006
It looks cool and when (not if) they figure out the railguns and lasers it'll be by far the deadliest surface combatant in the maritime history.
>>65262175>Anon, leftists didn't paint the pool with blue paint that causes algae and leftists didn't then pour bleach into the pool that reacts with the type of paint they used.The problem isnt the pool paint, the problem is that the pool is filled with river water which both contains algae as well as fertilizer runoff from farms.
>>65262528The "leftist" part so far seems to consist of >some guy grabbing a piece of floating blue coating as a toxic momento>the notorious ANTIFA running through the 250m length of water with a katana cutting up said blue coating (no video exist)
>>65262358>The design has been continuously changing over the last six months. NAVSEA doesn't even plan to start preliminary design until September.Point in case, yeah.>Raytheon can't even build enough missiles to keep VLS filled during peace time.Pointing to underlying structural problems as a reason to make bad decisions is really not smart.>Obsessing over cell count is retarded. Pointing out the lack of VLS cellsl in the future fleet mix is not not 'obsessing over VLS count'.If they plan to have USV arsenal frigates, fucking well say it.But going 'nuh-uh it'll be fiiiiiine' is the actual retarded move.
>>65259730that's a hideous eyebrow
>>65259730Dear god, tell me that he's doing some kind of Gomer Addams cosplay
Learn this to defeat any melee weapon and then thank me for saving your physical and spiritual life.
>>65259867Blackmailing your opponent with child sex tapes may work on an international level but it's not really viable for personal self-defense.
>>65263593And the second best defense is pepper spray
>>65262692>However the people who practice real martial arts (with hard sparring and competition) don't generally train the techniques that are more applicable in street fightingI always hear this cope, but the reality is that the "street fighting techniques" are the same techniques artists are taught just applied differently. Yes, striking someone in the back of the head or in the throat is forbidden in competitions but every single boxer, karate, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, K1 kickboxer, etc, knows how to do it. LOL>Also any serious school that teaches any martial art, whether competetively or not, is going to have hard sparring against resisting opponents.I agree, unfortunately Krav Maga dojos are generally not serious schools. See: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c2pkTIQPw5A and later in the video she fails to throw the black man like she said she could. >>65262703Yep.>>65263593Yep, this is also proved in the link I provided.>>65263822>pepper sprayThat's not how you spell gun.
>>65258036>anything jewish>saving your physical and spiritual life.X
>>65259692All it is is one marine to break the stick SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK
what would its RTS quotes be
>>65255782damn, bro
>>65255772>Zugg Zugg
>>65255772Production:>Bringing basedness backSelection:>Sigma boy here>Troops like us were fighting against Russia during judeo-communism>The power of basedness is hereMovement:>Make sure the Churkas are distracting them>The alphas will be there>All the girls get wet when the sigma boys arriveAttackComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>65255772at least I have job
>Gay?! It is disciplinary action!Getting your oil refineries bombed won't hurt so much if your PMC company researches state sponsorship in time. You will roll the wheel of fortune every time you win (suffer losses) win.
