7.62x51mm/.308 is a perfect round. It is acceptable for both infantry and hunters, marksman and machine guns, civilian and military use. And yet there are those who accuse the United States of committing a fundamental sin, while the reality is those who use WW2 statistics have fallen into the trap of basing future wars off prior ones. The 7.62x51mm/.308 round is the finest general purpose round ever created, only those who reject the overall strategic and practical viewpoint will criticize it. >muh 7.62x39mm>muh .280Both of which were completely dumped by their respective nations, 7.62x39mm is completely unacceptable as a machine gun and long range cartridge, and the .280 British is just a double down on this doctrine.For civilian use the 7.62x51mm/.308 has unparalleled versatility, it is capable of killing humans all the way up to large game, while maintaining utility for combat. However on /k/ the 7.62x51mm/.308 is seen as mistake that retarded firearms development, why is this the case? Can anyone explain this?
>>62544062In what way is a AR more modular than a Remington 700*?*With aforementioned remage barrel nut. Disclaimer because I know that otherwise some fag will start sperging out about how a factory Remington build needs a gunsmith to headspace a barrel.
>>62536398Don't get around to /brg/ much?
>>62536398>For civilian use the 7.62x51mm/.308 has unparalleled versatilityThere is literally no scenario in which I would take a .308, but not a 7mm/6.5mm short action cartridge. But there are many scenarios in which I wouldn't take a .308, but would take a 7-08/260rem.>However on /k/ the 7.62x51mm/.308 is seen as mistake that retarded firearms development, why is this the case? Can anyone explain this?Because it is. The US army was myopically focussed on ballistically replicating M2 30-06 ball, the problem with this is it's a dumb target. M2 ball is about the worst 30-06 loading there is, it's such a bad utilization of the case that in contemporary loadings .35 whelen was able to match it's trajectory. And today 35 whelen is the standard length ballistic twin of .308 (same speeds at same BC/sectional density).And the world agreed, because 308 was a military blunder. Everyone hated it and countries only stuck with it because of budgetary constraints and institutional inertia. Such was the combat effectiveness gap between it and .223 that the people who tried to keep it alive in US service resorted to direct sabotage, killing American GIs in Vietnam.
>>62536398I fucking LOVE bullet autism, I am here for you OP keep cooking go off king
>>62544301>The US army was myopically focussed on ballistically replicating M2 30-06 ball, tThey didn't even successful in that, let alone making better >>62538892
YOOOOOOOOO WHERE IS YOUR ROBOMAN ON THE ATV, PUTIN? MAYBE HE COULD HELP YOU LMAOhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/09/19/ukraines-gun-armed-ground-robot-just-cleared-a-russian-trench-in-kursk/>Dodging mines and firing its machine gun in coordination with explosive drones and mortars, the ’bot defeated a small group of Russian soldiers.>“The result: part of the enemy was destroyed, the rest fled,” the 1st Detachment of the 8th Special Purpose Regiment, the ’bot’s operator, announced on social media. “The [robot] received several hits from RPGs and FPVs”—rocket-propelled grenades and first-person-view drones—“but persevered, completed the mission and returned to recovery.”
>>62545850We Receiver now, beware of glocks!
>>62545721>robo-daimler is real, and it kills russiansMaybe this timeline isn't so bad after all
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>>62545721https://militaryleak.com/2023/02/07/four-russian-marker-unmanned-combat-ground-vehicles-arrive-in-donbass/
>>62546126footage of it in combat?
When it comes to war logistics and trying to disrupt it, why aren't railroad tracks hit more often? Ukraine and Russia relying on railroads for resupply got me wondering about that as well as historical wars prior to this one.
>>62545079I think you're underestimating the amount of force you'd need to displace those rails. It'd be much simpler to just place some sort of efp mine on or near the tracks and go for total locomotive death
>>62544316>Only if you post an F40PH as taxOkay Mr. IRSman
Striking locs would achieve much more than simply poking a hole in a section of rail somewhere.Maybe you could shift a portion of rail to an offset causing a derail, but you would need at least 3 very accurate strikes, 2 of which would have to be earth moving powerful.
>>62532383i like this video because they're basically like nope, nope, nope, nope, nope
>>62530690>why aren't railroad tracks hit more often?Because they're so easy to repair it's not even worth the trouble.
Post some underappreciated warbirds. Love me some Voodoo.
>>62545321>all your photos are from 80'swhich is why I said, practise((D))>Some countries still practice doing thatI know>The difference between F-16 and F-17 wasthe F-16 is used extensively by the USA, dipshit>Local content means tech transfersnot necessarily>it means local employmentI k now> It also means that you get capability to maintain your aircraft by yourselfI know>It is absolute aircraft readiness and supply security issuewrongComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>62542387>their parliament shot down the proposal to build 2 strategic bombers in 2002Isn't that around the time pineapple pizza was created?
>>62528622Once you realize this is just a Harrier with the vtol ripped out, you’ll never unsee it.
>>62522499Sorry if it is a dumb question, but what is the purpose of 2 engines in a trainer aircraft?
>>62542387Considering how they performed before, and how some politicians are prone to use nationalism and militarism to gain cheap consensus and then try to project power outwards to deflect from their ineptitude, it was a smart decision. Being watchdogs of the Mediterranean is probably the mission most fit for Italy.Speaking of the AMX: wasn't it retired recently?
>lever action guns were historically popular for being light weight>make the guns out of potmetal so they are retardedly heavy for what they areI have an h004 and it shoots great, but fuck is it heavy for a .22. All henrys are like that
Strange thread, you can't really determine what the exact point or motive of the OP is
>>62546062Yes, Henrys are pot metal garbage. Every shipment we've had from them has had problems. This latest one had the octagonal barrels not level with the receiver.
Prior threads: https://desuarchive.org/k/search/subject/Rule%20the%20Waves/>what the fuck is thisRule the Waves (RtW) is a naval management/strategy game where you take on the task of designing botes, managing the fleet and conducting them in battle. All well and good, but true to life things will never go according to plan. You'd love to lay down a new class of battleship, but your engineers swear up and down they've almost figured out new armor forging process that'll make them so much better if you just wait a few more weeks. They've said that for the last six months. You give the go-ahead on a Naval Intelligence plot to blow up a French warship in port, only to open the newspaper the next morning to find France signed a military alliance with Great Britain. In the war that follows, your destroyer line misunderstands the signal flags for “Screen our ships from torpedo attacks” as “Suicidally charge the enemy fleet”. Under blockade, your ungrateful people keep demanding things like food, don't they know there's a war going on? After four years of war, you're rewarded with no reparations, a half-destroyed, badly aging fleet and a peacetime budget cut.>alright but what are we going to be doingSo far, /k/ has been guiding the progress of the Italian Navy through the late 1800s and into the 1930's, leading us forward on a quest that hopefully ends in Total Anglo/Hungarian/Frenchman/Russian Death, Italian supremacy in the Med and eternal glory for the restoration of Rome. I'll be presenting you with designs made to your specifications, choices the game throws at us regarding politics and commentary of battles. A list of suggested names for ships and aircraft is being built, so feel free to throw out your suggestions as well. Finally, keep those (You)s flowing in to keep my dopamine levels high.
>>62545033Half the fleet is worth it to see them all drown, preferably while they are consumed by a floating, lit oil slick.
This is not looking great. I think that we probably should decline this battle and then transfer all of our fleet to the Med. Also, try negotiating an alliance with someone other than Spain? Is that even possible now?
>>62544912Fugg. Engage, stay at range and split and retire asap if possible. Can we hold them until land based air can bomb them to hell?Otherwise cut and run.
>>62544890> yeah but they were crap.No? With the exception of the Ises, which weren’t really true conversions, they were all fine. Not as well optimized as purpose built carriers, but still solid options.
>>62544890Just because submarines were that good doesn't make commerce raiders shit.
In the event of an alien invasion and occupation, is there any way for a vastly technological inferior force like what humanity would likely be in such a scenario to meaningfully resist the occupiers? Even assuming the aliens are not trying to outright genocide us? Wouldn't it be akin to a lost Amazonian tribe with spears trying to defeat an occupying force of modern soldiers?
>>62545782With enough kinetic energy, anything is possible. Viva la Thunderchild
>>62545782I'd imagine that the aylmaos would conquer us War of the Worlds style minus the bacteria killing them part:They'd basically do what the British did to India but without any moral conflict about putting down rebellions.
It would be difficult, but there are ways.I remember reading a brief on a Russian paper here years ago that laid out a theoretical weapon that would be useful against aliens with almost any level of protection. It involved using a small nuclear warhead, placed in the middle of a large, concrete-lined pit a hundred meters in diameter, with a copper plat on top a few cm thick; in essence, the largest shaped charge in history.
>>62545782Spears are still Godly
We are probably the most interesting thing about Earth.There are a lot of dead rocks out in space and likely a decent number of lifebearing worlds, but intelligent life is probably very rare.Most likely the main interest of aliens in actually sending missions here, would be monitoring us out of curiosity, but also seeing if we are a threat.
Will the shift from brigades to the divisions being the main units of action bring positive changes to this 2030 reorganization of the US army from it's 2021 force structure?We get 1 cav squadron instead of 3 but 24 combat engie companies instead of the old 6. Plus the unmanned vehicles for the light divisions, counter drone capabilities and potentially 5 hypersonic missile batteries for some combat commands.
>>62542396Funny how lots of nafo twitter accounts are super right wing.
>>62536453Yeah, but that shit was rad as fuck.
>>62542548The traditional lines between rocket and tube have blurred a lot with the introduction of guided munitions, which dramatically altered the usage of both. There's still some difference; rockets have far more range, thanks to the repeated failures to develop a new long-range cannon, and while guided shells initially cost as much as guided rockets, PGK has restored them as a far cheaper option per round.My wild guess is that one option for both going ahead will be a "drone delivery system" that basically acts like SADARM but deploys autonomous drones with EFPs--optionally with frag sleeves--in order to increase effectiveness and get around the silly cluster munition rules. If that's even halfway correct, then the rocket or tube just becomes a delivery device, with cost and range just being factors affecting employment of the "warheads".
>>62516677>>62516245This one feels like a gamble that's softer on the budget during peacetime but during wartime you just know the ISV will be shitcanned the moment the first crew gets wasted and factories will haul ass to replace them with JLTVs while the guys stuck with them will start welding plates.
Every decade has a new hot catch all term2000s: tactical2010s: modular2020s: multi domaini hate it
How can the west defeat Prometheus? It seems there's no escape from in on paper.
>>62545970Kids are retards and fuck you.
>detecting stealth planes>at 600kmLMAO, do you even realize how massive the power generation and fidelity would have to be for even half that? the S-400 radar is the opposite of that, low fidelity and with a comparable power generation to the patriot and i have a hard time imagining it will be any different in the S-500theres a reason why the patriot radar has officially a third of the range of the S-400 and that is because it actually has enough fidelity to be a useful radar
>>62543083>always been curious> why are they using S-300s as MRLS?pick one:> 1) vodka> 2) jet fuel> 3) krokodil> 4) ziggers> 5) All Of The Above
>>62545971You do not understand what the phrase "NO U" means, Bilbo.
>>62544692top zozzle
I really like the idea of the Henry survival rifle, and anyone had any luck with it? The track record is pretty spotty but some of the reviews are from awhile ago.Also .22lr general, let's see what you got
>>62545918T/C is back in business but don't expect them to start making their TCR22 or anything like that any time soon; they have old receiver castings/unfinished receivers for a lot of their Contenders, bolt actions, and muzzleloaders but I haven't seen anything on their YouTube channel about 22s.
>>62545918Nor would I expect their 10/22 knockoff to return soon but you never know. I kinda doubt the TCR22 returning but again you never know. Could always email them and see if they'd be willing to give you an answer. I do love my 10/22s though. And yes, I mean 10/22s with an s, as in more than one, new and old.https://www.youtube.com/@TCArmsCo/videoshttps://tcarms.com/
Great price on a cp33 if anybody is looking for one.https://adelbridge.com/product/kel-tec-cp33-22-lr/
>>62545730Thanks in your input to the Wildcat. I don't really care about aftermarket that much. I like that it takes 10/22 mags and has a peep sight. So the serialized trigger group only seems to be a problem for people that want to change the trigger?
>>62545809I don't live in the US. Here 10/22s cost usually >500 Eur (basic version!) and Wildcats a bit <400 Eur.
Would the Air Force have really shot down those planes if their response hadn't been generally so half-assed?
>>62497872Keep putting pussy on a pedestal, anon. I'm sure that will get you some.
>>62488451No
>>62509885>Cheney is unfathomably based.t.
>>62545611I like how the Punisher TV series made Eric Prince into a comic book villain.
>>62545611>blackwater>visible NOPD logosu wot m8?
Just dye or spray paint that shit.Previously >>62437621
>>62544605>KENYANS>>62545279If SteveO snorted dried a mix of HIV blood and cocaine and didn't get HIV I think you'll be fine anon; I think it's only supposed to live ~48h outside of the body at room temp IIRC but never say never. Gloves and Lysol concentrate diluted in a bucket exist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L37b6Nlnz74
>>62545288You know how there are dashcams that can see in the dark? This is literally that, a camera with IR searchlight stuck to your head. A real analog NVG can amplify light miles away, and discern targets hundreds of yards away while not revealing you. This piece of shit limits you to 100 yards and anyone with IR-viewing capability will immediately detect your ass due to searchlight. In addition, since it's a camera, it will have picture delay. Ever played videogames? You'll be playing real life at 24-50 FPS.Look up "Jerry-14" night vision, it's chink PVS-14 analog device. That's pretty much the ballpark for entry into tactical (Combat, hunting) night vision.
>>62540864Militech is certified good shit, Buffman shot most of their offerings on camera, soft and hard. The most likely failure point is the nylon-velcro cover itself since it's either off-brand of twinfalcons (airsoft) production.
>>62540694>Legacy FASTThis is a chinese dome, chinese airsoft rails and airsoft liner.
>>62538203There are mainly 4 reputable chinese armor dealers on aliexpress, Militech, Raptor Tactical, Aholdtech and REVIXUN. Buying from their official stores will net you a fitting product. Avoid no-names otherwise.
Why do people no longer wear armor?
>>62543895>I can convince /k/ to become the Kremlin's personal armywho cares about 50 redditors on /k/ shilling for ukraine?
>>62544038>feels good manunironically what got me using 4chan
>>62543808The internet in general was far more gore friendly, snuff videos and ideological killings everywhere.The only time I have ever seen cp was browsing this shithole back then. Even with mods banning it there were spammers using cp imagery for years linking directly to their honeypots.The feds and auto-moderation cleaned this place up unironically, it's one of the reasons I avoided this place back then.Nowadays it's all loli honeypots instead because all CP is on an auto delete hashes, and they will permaban and send your shit to the FBI.Go the fuck back.
>>62543711Only vatniks get off on gore. It's certainly some level of neural decay.
>>62545931Noone gets off to it retard.If you can't handle reality, I suggest you find a website more suited for you like SFW reddit, Tumblr or whatever cringe pedo style over-moderated site zoomers now use instead.
>Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.
>>62519361What a fucking shit show that was. At least the pig died, rest in piss.
>>62518430>"Just brandish your gun that will de-escalate the situation!"Depends on the situation, in most cases like a home intruder trying to steal your shit to sell for drugs yeah letting them know you have a fire arm is enough to make them buzz off but in other situations it might escalate things further if your out numbered or out gunned.
>>62519925>>62519744>it's the russians!Technically it's the Belorussian's who are weaponizing migrants and refugee's from Africa to fuck with Poland, and while I have no problem being critical of Turkey when they deserve it they hold back a lot of migrants and refugees from flooding Europe too and only occasionally threaten to open the flood gates to try an extort Europe for more money for dealing with the migrants/refugee's themselves which is a burden they don't want either... And also because they wanna flood Europe with their own population instead too but that's another matter. I'm sure any other country would demand the same if they were in that position.>inb4 CIAnigger/FSBniggerNo just being a intellectually and morally superior fence sitting neutral observer, nothing else.>inb4 turkroachI'm not fond of them bombing Armenians and Syrians actually so again no.
>>62543990>>62542292Wasn't the cop who reacted to the actual criminal also literally a Turk? Germany is a fucking joke
>>62517680speaking of flying https://youtu.be/red4jzXor3I?
What army was in such a bad shape that you're amazed the soldiers kept on fighting?
>>62523662The current Russian army.
>>62545718And yet he was happy when he died and will be remembered for centuries.Whereas you are a sad nobody. And you will die a sad nobody.
Napoleon returning from pussia.
>>62545052Fuggin kek
>>62529466Not an army per se, but the Russian navy historically didn't fair much better.>1904>at war with Japan, a nation who only rose to international prominence like 30 years ago and literally just built their navy>dispatch elements of the Baltic fleet to the Far East to reinforce your fleets at Port Arthur and Vladivostok>mistakenly believe that they are being stalked by Japanese torpedo boats while en route>in the North Sea>literally thousands of miles away from Japan>spy some British fishing boats in the night>start blasting>panic grips the fleet as word spreads of the supposed Japanese raid>start shooting each other in the confusion>at one point a ship reports that they've been boarded by Japanese marines>Russian gunnery is so piss-poor that they've barely managed to actually hit anythingComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
