For fellow anons interested in this stuff, ArcSys have collated all their presentations (in Japanese) on achieving their unique character style including skinning, rigging and rendering on this central “Academy” page.https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/academy/
>>1029801https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ_9ifeR518
>>1029797>>1030021Oh I see. For the outlines, right? It's just about drawing the models twice to get the outlines. Once for the base model, once with a different vertex shader for the inverted hull.If you don't want to do it in two passes you have to double the size of the mesh data, since you need to store both the original and the hull.There are some alternatives (geometry shader or compute shader) but they have other tradeoffs and are more dev-intensive compared to the two-pass approach that just works out of the box.
Lately I've been playing Another Code recollection, and while the game overall is ugly as sin, the way Ashley is rendered is really amazing. It's the best use of cell shading I've seen next to BotW.And I looked up the game and discovered it was made by Arcsys. I need to know how this style is achieved...
>>1030778It's just a texture with a rimlight
is there a correct way to model with blender/maya?i dont have a tablet and im watching videos that use concept arts then make a model on top of it either via >making a shape and pulling it to conform the concept art>making each verticees until it fills the concept art
>>1030501The corret way is the one that gets you results, so try the different alternatives and see which one you don't drop
>>1030501Some good keywords to research >box modelling>image planes
>>1030508Dumb non-answer. He should look up how pros model production ready assets and use that as a starting point. I suggest looking at how speedchar does it.
Substance painter has a perpetual license on Steam in case anyone was interested. O_O
>>1030139Seems to be 12.1 latest version, though bugs could be true but that's adobes handling of the software, not the perpetual license. Also substance designer has a perpetual license as well on Steam!
>>1030144>Could be truePeople who had work on it know is true. Export option will not transfer material to the 3D file. Limited area of painting, live updater is a lie, adding materials requires old data file that no longer exists thus limiting yourself. Maya and other 3D programs may no longer support old plugin of Substance.
>>1030131pirating Adobe is officially sanction by the Vatican to be absolved from the "thou shall not steal" commandment
It limits you to whatever year you got it, and you can end up really envying the later years. That said 200 smackers for perpetuity is reasonable enough, I'm just being a Jew.>Mfw my pirated version is 2024>Mfw 2026 adds in some new ribbon path shit that does EXACTLY what I've fucking wanted all this time.>I don't wanna go through the hassle of pirating it (Those you-know-who guys who run the Adobe piracy are chads of chad supermen for doing what they do) when I am about to upgrade my system in a month or two.Think I'll just be a good goy and rent a subscription then pirate it in a few months. I might just shell out in 2027 if it offers something good just so that if the main pirates I use disappear I'm not up shit creek, and it honestly is a fantastic programa.
>>1030728>you-know-who guysIndians?
Ia this program as good as it looks? I want something like this for a standalone headset, but I don't feel like giving money to Adobe (piss be upon them).
>>1028830>pirate ithowI don't have access to cg peers
>>1028854Yes
>>1028854>>1030075Clanker and my BWC in your hands
use genp to steal adobe software.
I just commented in the other thread, you're probably (surely) much better than my jank ass is and I quite like it.>>1029043What >>1030106 said. Just make sure it's the legit source.
I don't really know anything about 3D graphics but I do have background in animation so I need someone to verify my opinion/observations,and also show off your vfx work if you'd like.Recently I've developed a habit of just analyzing the visual effects of the games I'mplaying, and I'm realizing and honestly surprised that so much of 3D visual effects isreally just putting 2D animations and textures on top of invisible 3D geometry (that may or may not be animated as well).>There aren't 6 trillion particles to that create that swirl of dust during a powerful hit, it's a brief 2D animation on top of some double helix geometry.>That smoke coming from a chimney is a 2D animation on some kind of billboard plane.>That river of water or waterfall is - yet again - just some fancy noise projected on top of some invisible geometry>etc...The reason this is kind of a big deal to me is I used to really specialize in 2D visual effects.Frame by frame using a ton of gradients, shapes, particles, lines, glow effects, blurs, flickers, textures, etc.. and doing all this shit by hand.And so when I would try watching tutorials on how to make 3D visual effects, I realized that it's a VERY similar process that I used to do with 2D. So much of that shit really is just getting down and dirty with your tool and having a bunch of tricks Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>1027343There's a Diablo 3 presentation, gdc I think, where they explain all the vfx mileage you can get from combining 2 scrolling textures in different ways, well worth a watch
>>1027343i (a retard) would agree that yeah thats like 85% of 3d effects. but the last 15% is custom shader code and geometry node shennanigans. so it depends on how ambitious you are and how limited you are willing to be
>>1027354https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPy2hytwDLMThe video was unlisted but thankfully google's ai is a better search engine than youtube's search
It all happens on a 2d plane anyway. Its just shortcuts for people who can't draw or paint. I'm unironically back on photoshop 5.0, corel draw 8 and kais power tools because the abstraction of rendering is FUCKING MEANINGLESS THERE ARE NO 3D IMAGES ON A SCREEN THEY ARE NOT 3D IMAGES. So the only thing left are logic for rendering and ui. Fidelity just means suspension of disbelief is not broken. Vfx are just drawing on the fell of a film. It's not magic and its only occasionally art.
Can we have a productive thread to discuss how to use AI to improve our 3D workflows and become faster and produce professional results, rather than trying to cry about some imaginary 4chan anti AI versus pro AI debate?
>>1029757Why are you like this, Chris?
Are there any good workflows to create generate low poly meshes out of crudely drawn reference sheets yet?I'm trying to make anthropomorphic Nintendo 64 style character models and it would be so much easier if I could just draw a basic head shape in MS paint, put it into an AI and have that generate me a mesh which I can put in Blender and edit to my liking.I've tried this with multiple frontier LLM's (putting in an image, then instructing it to generate a python script that I can use to spawn it into Blender) but they all either get the shape completely wrong or have dogshit topology to the point where it's better to just make it myself from scratch.The struggle of being a 3D noob is real.
>>1029757sometimes I use it as a base to sculpt from, as a way to iterate ideas on a flat sketch, or to create textures I don't have the funds or skill to have made.
What Comfy setups are you using to run your ZBrush sculpts through for meshing?
>>1030611why would use it for N64 style shit? it's literally all in texture. Ai can't rig or animate for shit.
What is the best controller for modeling/sculpting in VR?
>>1026148gonna work my nutsack across your face for a decade and call it art too.
>>1026199Did I call it art? cris adjacent fucking retard lmao.
>>1013543Vlad Tepes?
>>1001004this one looks like a running cheetah!!
I've leveled up, chuds. This is roughly 70% AI but I've tuned the prompts and the workflow to make it look more legit. Would this get flagged by Steam?
>>1028972why do you care about niches? do what you like
>>1028965>calls us chuds>uses aiyeah ik who the real chud is and shocker it's not me
>>1028965Wireframe?
>>1028965This looks horrible, one thing AI fags making videogames have in common is that they have no artistic nor gameplay vision.At least with 2D it can be passable to a degree but when it's up to using your head and criteria to create something more complex it becomes worthless when 80 IQ jeets are behind it
>>1028965OP is a talentless faggot
realistic (metal) reflections with non-constant, multi-directional anisotropyI'll use it on a realistic Miku costume rendersource: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3bkGPobpTw
reuploadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz8PIi3ELJg
People like to meme that 3D is hard, but was there anything in 3D that actually wanted to make you rip your hair out from how difficult/tedious it was?
>>1030346No, 3D is really easy. I tried getting into 2D but it's impossible, you need genuine talent to draw, 3D is basically just knowing how to use a software.
>>1030439What if it's connected to two or more other verts?
>>1030459the more verts, the less options you actually have to move.If it's 2 points, then you basically put the 3d cursor between the two point you don't want to move and rotate the target vert along the normal from the two points.If there are even more edges then the movement would be so restricted that you basically end up flipping the target vert by scaling it along the normal created by the other verts with the 3d cursor in the middle of it
>>1030346>People like to meme that 3D is hard, but was there anything in 3D that actually wanted to make you rip your hair out from how difficult/tedious it was?Trying to fix regions of faces where the faces had started to develop a visible diagonal crease and no amount of smoothing or relaxing would fix it. I eventually found out the correct way is creating and applying a Weighted Normal modifier but it was really fucking aggravating trying everything under the sun until that came up.
>>1030346Just startingAnd then UV unwrapping
Like all great projects, you leave it behind for a while... 5 years might be a little too long, time to get back on the saddle and work on it.For those that were in the loop back in the day, this is a revival effort to bring /3/ back to the cup and even though /3/'s history in the 4CC isn't necessarily stellar, it's always a work in progress. Things have changed since the last time the team played an official match, Konami stopped making games and we've been reusing older games with mixed success, however there are tools to have the same model quality as the newer versions of Pro Evolution Soccer before the series ceased production by converting them to the older games. For those that don't even know what this is all about, the 4CC is an inter-board competition where /3/ used to compete from 2012-2015 with a revival that went from 2018-2021, the team has fallen inactive since then but if there's enough interest ITT the team will return to competition with me and my co-manager Wyvern at the helm. There are 4 cups per year named after each season featuring the Elite and Babby divisions, the second division is the entry point for new/reviving teams and with the Spring Babby Cup coming up, team registration has opened and the time is now to revive /3/.Let's go fire up Blender one more time and kick a ball around, hopefully we don't lose too badly. For more info see https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//3/
>>1030869Fair point, maybe I am just overthinking things. Either way we've reached a consensus so it's not like we won't ever be fielding Unity-chan
>>1030852voted him for the auties for worst player, fuck him
>>1030881We ended up winning three awards for this cup, Meme Man as worst player was one of them, the other two were best chant (tied) and at least you tried. Not the best campaign but at least we got something.
>>1031318>Meme Man as worst player was one of themdeserved, even they saw it
>>1031318Three awards for a campaign that ended in the group stage? I'll take it.
Is learning 3D suppossed to be this hard or I just dont like it?. I hate how there's a billion tools and all the vertix bshit, holy hell modeling seems to be so hard. Can I learn animation without giving a fuck about how to use all the modeling tools?Im still gonna learn a bit more about modeling anyway but holy nightmare fuck these dots
>>1030316Even in Blender why would you use a modifier other than maybe mirror for a psp-level model? Aren't you overcomplicating things?
>>1028397You have to learn modeling if you want to do animation. In the actual industry, a whole team works together with people specializing, but because you're solo, you need to learn. Not sure why others are telling you otherwise.Animation deforms a collection of dots connected to each other. If you don't have enough dots, or connected the dots in a way that naturally bends in the direction you're trying to bend it, it will suck. As for animation, please learn to use the NLA editor sooner rather than later.One of the advantages of 3D animation is layering, and different bones can pose at different times. Use this to your advantage. Start with a walk cycle.
>>1028725what does this have to do with 3d
>>1028397>Can I learn animation without giving a fuck about how to use all the modeling tools?S&Box has S2FM, if you wanna use that.
>>1030188She is real, I got several friends like this, but she's not gonna have the opposite political picks from retards here, that's it. That's the one difference. Or tranny but backward, female to male and no surgery to go with it, but then again it changes nothing. I don't got more to say aside from taking care of yourself anon. One day I hope I can have a family too.
Kind of bummed that there don't really seem to be any serious threads about animation on this board. Of course, most games nowadays just use motion capture for everything, but I'm still of the opinion that animations made by hand such as all the animations in Fumito Ueda's games have a special something about them that mocap cannot reach. And these aren't super stylized or cartoony animations either. They're grounded and realistic but have a lightness to them. I was trying to find resources on how to learn to animate like that, but it seems like a lost art. There are blender courses for animation out there such as the "Alive!" by P2D Design academy, but they all focus on they all focus on this over the top bouncy Disney style. Pretty much all across western animation courses.
Also individual keys/combos could be set to cycle through a range of controls/bones, this really isn't a difficult concept, it's been in videogames since... forever?Is there really no 3D program that supports this?
>>1019094Wasn't the whole point of H1B jeets that they're all expert geniuses who would "show us how it's done"??? Why would they need us to teach them in that case?
>>1019094>foreigners, who are often as incompetent as the native minoritiesHave you ever worked in your life? Minorities are incredibly incompetent and lazy, barely understand the language, steal as much as they can and try to scam whenever they can.
>>1022359What's this kike shit? Off yourself lmao
i wonder if there's any merit in using old ass 3d software in today's age like softimage and lightwave3d. after all the best looking games come from that era, and it's not like I wanna make anything higher fidelity (which you probably could since you were limited mostly by hardware back then)
Love it?Like it?Tolerate it?Hate it?
Tolerate it. As a director it's good enough for building animatics and doing general animation/scenes. Not as powerful as other DCCs. But also it's more about how you use a tool so it doesn't matter that much really. If you're a shit artist then you're gonna make shit work regardless of the software. If you're good then you're gonna make good work. Only dumb fucks get caught up in software arguments.Plenty of retards use blender because it has infinite step by step tutorials where you don't have to think
>>1029505maxon, like adobe, is a demonic company now, fuck them and anyone involved.
>>1029505I used just to paint textures but somehow the cracked versions started to freeze. So fuck Maxon, I've switched to 3dcoat and that just works.
>>1029505It's a mixed bag.It's the first (and primarily only) 3D software I use for a majority of my workflow (i use substance painter for texturing, and sometimes use SAI2 for more manual texturing work).Been using c4d since 2012, and only occasionally updated as time went on. I'm currently on ver R20, because I refuse to update to the newest version (outside of the newer dynamics simulations being both better and worse than Bullet simulation physics, the fact that the help documentation is online-only peeves me off, and on principle of my software working offline, I refuse to use that version).The software definitely got better as time went on, but simultaneously, worsened as well. The tools it offers are solid, but performance and general reliability wavers. I thought the idea of "As time goes on, performance worsens with each new update," was an adobe thing primarily, but I guess it's somewhat universal, because I get similar annoyances in newer versions of Vegas Pro and the newer versions of C4D.Through sunk-cost, I stick with C4D. I like it, but somewhat dislike it. I'm half-way waiting for Blender to become good enough for me to switch to it (which it kind of feels better nowadays than it did a decade ago), and I've been slowly learning it.
>>1029505>no linux version
I've been finding this obscure weird little naked mole rat renders, but I couldn't find the creator. The oldest website I found with the image is this japanese post https://karapaia.com/archives/52025304.htmlCan someone help me here??
>>1030402>https://boards.4chan.org/3/thread/1025537/
