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find a flaw
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>>462674
fix it then
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>>462674
>the skull in the middle there looks like AI.
the entire thing is AI dummy

>>462729
i can't fix you being indian
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>>462731
>this nigga thinks only Indians use AI
use it to make some money goy
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>>462729
No nigger. Kill yourself.
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>>462633
>lack of symmetry in spikes
>middle and ring fingers wrong
Ai

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Illustrator beginner here. How's this for my first time?
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
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>>462947
The best place to get creative stuff is vk (russian facebook) but don't just download everything, try to curate and develop a setup for making stuff reliable and fast, with files made for presentation too, like t-shirts or poster mockups (I mostly download or pay for True Grit Supply or high quality stuff). for example you can just search on google like this:

site:vk.com astute graphics

>Astute Graphics Bundle + Pro Texture Packs (Windows) (641.08 MB) tested only on Illustrator v26.0.3 CC 2022

>Download:
https://workupload.com/file/QxAY7sVNQLG
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>>462948
This is highly appreciated anon. True Grit Supply does seem to offer a better deal than Astute Graphics considering the latter is charging a subscription to use their assets.

I downloaded the link you showed me and I'm a little surprised to see an .exe for plugins. Is this normal or just their way of DRM?
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>>462950
Also, I forgot to add, any recommended channel or tutorial to get a hang of Illustrator? I know my way around Photoshop a bit, but I'm still new with this.
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>>462950
True Grit is the best for brushes and textures in specific styles, for example they have: 50s atomic age, 60s psychedelic, 70s groove funk, 80s pop art, 90s grunge, retro comics, woodcut, vintage halftones, 2000s printing textures, t-shirt distress textures etc.

You use them mostly if you plan to work with some form of print in those artstyles, or for selling t-shirts, posters, books, etc.

Astute Graphics, is mostly used to speed up your workflow for example if you use a tool more than once you should make a keyboard shortcut for it, also they both have channels with tons of tutorials but I only watched maybe one or two videos.

https://www.youtube.com/@TrueGritTextureSupply
https://www.youtube.com/@astutegraphics/videos
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>>462951
90% of Illustrator is just the pen tool and you learn it by tracing your own drawings, after you do 10 or 20 you'll get used to it. and later on you can trace on illustrator but a lot of people trace on paper and take a pic with your phone, or some sketch on photoshop and use the image as reference in illustrator.

The most used things to learn for illustrators are the basic stuff, like how to place and edit the points and handles, how to use the pathfinder panel, and other tools like cutting, grouping/ungrouping, bring layers to the front or back, lock layers, etc. (you should have shortcuts for those).

These are the channels where I learned the most useful stuff from, the last one is a podcast so you can just leave the sound on but you can learn a lot about the business side, is just interviews with some illustrators and designers who are successful:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheVectorLab
https://www.youtube.com/@RetroSupply
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAtkH02dHIUKLtn7djPbduhnLxx9EzRnh
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1kftJGcwTVr5-zWlPwPklmybWVAagLDZ

And finally these videos are pretty inspirational and helpful

https://vimeo.com/55846250

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I feel like its missing something. Maybe a diff picture of jesus would work better? Idk. Suggestions?
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>>462323
bottom left is aislop
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>>462515
Better than human slop.

>>462323
Make yeshua's skin darker, and give him a wider, flatter nose. More afrocentric features in general I think. You're close though!
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Flame decals on the car, thicker outlines on the text. Some lens flares.
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>>462323
You need to have a more consistent visual identity. The problem is a lack of vision I guess.

Notes:
-The various outlines around the "trap" look iffy and how completely different it looks from the Jesus element is jarring.
-The bottom text is not really aligned in any good manner. It's interestingly placed but it has no real impact. If it completed the circular shape created by the the positioning of the "Trap Jesus" it'd be cooler looking
-the ancient egypt background is useless here and doesn't add anything to the ideas introduced by any of the text. If aqualantis is a cool place that is water themed then why is there a fucking pyramid here?
-the space ship idea is out of left field and is better left out or implied in some other symbolic/esoteric way
-the car looks like shit
-the Poseidon? on the left there looks incredibly bad.

I had a better idea for this. I'm no expert mind you, I'm just a guy with too much free time.
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it needs additional "bling" to balance the bling of the car.

maybe put a audacious jewled cross around jesus neck or an adidas symbol on his robe or maybe a sexy girl in a bikini

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This is the label design for Peter Stormare's vodka, what would you do differently ?
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(Perhaps subconciously) influenced by picrel (both this particular design and the artist's general style and that of his era) the same way all rock guitar bands are influenced by Chuck Berry. Peter Max also did this more sloppy hippie-ish lettering style sometimes too and of course tons of people copied them.

It's supposed to be quirky and bohemian and "honest" and have "soul".
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>>462920
Warhol also wasn't the only big name artist to crapify the word mark for that campaign to make it more arteestic...but it was a big thing in marketing that blurred the line between commercial and advertising art (hence Warhol) and people now who make crap looking vodka labels because it somehow looks right don't even know it's because they're copying that template.

https://thebrandhopper.com/2024/09/14/a-case-study-on-absolut-vodkas-absolut-bottle-campaign/#The_Art_of_Collaboration_Absoluts_Partnerships_and_Limited_Editions
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>>462921
Wkj
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>>462921
Sorry, meant to say-

>tblurred the line between commercial and *fine* art (hence Warhol)
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>>462923
Yeah this isn't any of that. This is just bad fad design

Hello My real name is Joe but I have gone by scor online and even built a little following as an editor with it.
Im on here cause I have ran into a hurdle I want to venture into more things but going at those things solo is a bit challenging. I have started coding and have built a couple projects but I want some people i can rub ideas with and in my community I am one in many who involve themselves with this.
Is there anybody who codes or maybe is into design or technical side of computers?
My discord is Scor
Scor#8524
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>>462784
Anon, this isnt the place to socialize.
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>>462784
joe MAMA!!! hoohoohoohoohohoohohohooohooohooohooohooohoo

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I want to add the initials "MH" to this, how would you do it?
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>>462110
IDK I'm not good at this
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>>462143
that is cool!!!
I dig it a lot!
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>>462180
Wow, thanks!
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>>462109
>>462108
Mental illness/insanity
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>>462113
>That had some John Deere flavor I'm not quite ok with.

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Since when does this board exist?
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>>462812
2013, always been pretty dead though
font share threads were active for a few years but since that lost traction it's been a ghost town
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Honestly doubt even the jannies monitor this board. It used to be slow but kind of active.
Pretty sure since ai image generation became a thing its died entirely.
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>>462877
it died before that, it happened to other generals or boards as well, when they forced you to wait 120 seconds or pay for a 4chan pass to post, there's tons of gd discords are pretty active
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>>462812
It has existed for a decade at this point but i dont blame people for not knowing it exists when its so dead

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You guys need to understand something, because when you ask "How do we bring this style back", for any aesthetic you want, you're not getting that these aesthetics didn't exist in a vacuum. They were there to advertise a product, or culture around the product.

You won't bring any aesthetic back, you won't create any new kind of aesthetic, if there is no culture behind it. Otherwise, its just wall paper. You're in /gd/ GD is making wallpaper for a product or culture.

You have to ask yourself, how is a culture formed, how a culture is made, and how does a culture persists. Because culture is what happens when you're not around. its self reinforcing by the people participating.

None of you will bring any kind of aesthetic back without a culture.
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I think there has to be a sense of novelty. It can't be a previously trodden path or else it feels like a spent energy, it feels like forcing something that has long since ran its course. Like a meme or music genre, it's not completely dead but its confined to a small clique of aficionados. It cannot captivate large portions of the population anymore so most people move on to something feels fresh and invigorating.

Moreover it just feels forced. People naturally aren't inclined to make art like they did 20 years ago (which was largely impacted by the technological means that are no longer there). It's easier and more intuitive to just do what you're used to (generic flatshit) or do something new. People don't naturally do things that happen to faithfully adhere to bygone trends. Just just do whatever.

And like a meme, it has to naturally emerge from the zeitgeist. It has to seem like the most befitting thing for the moment. The laser grids of the 80s just aren't gonna cut it for most people.

Stuff like synthwave and vaporwave have a niche appeal that likely could never go mainstream. And even then, it is hardly a faithful implementation of retro aesthetics. They are more of a crude indulgence of stereotypes of the 80s & 90s for the purpose of escapism. It's not forward looking like the retro aesthetics that inspire it. These are dead genres for people who are dead inside.
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>>462363
Looking at OP and this, there just seems to be a sense of individualism on the internet that keeps people from blossoming a movement.
People can hone in their own graphic design and style, but to get a great majority of others to follow is a really hard deal. And to have those other people following not seem like a cheap knockoff is harder. Think of AVGN clones.
You're either doing something new, or knocking someone off, when you actually get enough skill to not look like an amatuer/everyone else.
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>>462363
>Just just do whatever
*They just do whatever

>>462373
It might be the case that artistic trends will come to be less centralized over time resulting in a more diverse and compartmentalized landscape. AI is a big game changer too. The ease with which you can generate art might break the death grip Corporate Memphis currently has (which is mainly used due to how braindead & easy it is to create). Targeted advertising may reflect this, for better or worse. Sites that collect data about you may figure out what aesthetics appeal to you and generate ads accordingly. Web design might also similarly opt for a variety of AI generated layouts. I'm sure people are realizing how repugnant Corporate Memphis is to a lot of people. The world is bigger than the oversocialized bugmen and PMC drones that actually enjoy that garbage. I almost think its intentionally bad as a means of driving away interesting people thus lowing competition for themselves.
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>>462379
>thinks we will be liberated from corporatism by enslaving ourselves to corporate tools (called AI)
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>>462855
>misunderstands the post

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We need to RETVRN to Y2K
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when you try to revive something from the past, you always end up with an inferior bastardization of the original. aesthetics are downstream from culture and represent the culture and world around it.

Y2K died on September 11, 2001 and is never coming back. best you can do start something new
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>>462801
>ads predominantly show Asians and Whites
Well well well
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>>462801
start buying magazines boi
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>>462821
>giving power to 911
y2k aesthetics didn't end until almost 2010
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>>462801
you don't seem to be able to recognize what visual minimalism, a minimal composition is or isn't

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Client asking me to design his book cover

I have no idea how to price it.

What do /gd/?
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>>462442
multiply the number of hours it will take you to make it or it took you to already have made it, by 25 bucks and write a contract for 5% royalties on sales only if it breaches the 1 million dollar sale
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>>462741
My book sold $999,999 you get nothing
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>>462499
did it tho?
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>>462442
cover is pretty cool i would buy the book just for the cover image looks good you should charge good amount
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>>462826
you should give reading proper literature a try

ok, someone explain to me how the fuck pantone Coated Vs Uncoated is SUPPOSED to work.

anyone whos messed about with pantones knows that youre supposed to use C swatches for coated paper, and U for Uncoated paper

but colors NEVER translate across,
1235C looks nothing like 1235U

so what the hell do i do if a clients brand guide only has C swatches?

what do i do if I need to print on the opposite type of surface from whatever swatch i have??

shits garbage
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>>462465
For exmple 185-C is closer to 186-U than 185-U

Yes they don't look alike because U will neve be as bright as C
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>>462467
Tis exactly my problem.

No client (or even project manager) will ever understand that, and they DO get mad about it.
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>>462465
>bullshit system doesn't work.

It works just fine if you follow basic common sense protocols like having the printer provide a final proof of the actual ink color on the actual stock, that the client can then approve and sign off on.

Of course that can create added expense, but that's the cost of high precision/ nitpicking. If the client balks at the time/expense/hassle and says it's not that important then put *that* in writing and have them sign off on that, or politely decline the job if you think they are lying.

If the printer balks at creating/providing accurate proofs then they're the wrong printer for that job/client.

All of this is literally why the Pantone system exists as a color matching standard, it doesn't work without people who understand how to use it.

>So what the hell do i do if a clients brand guide only has C swatches?

Tell him "it doesn't work without people who understand how to use it"
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>>462479
Then buy the Pantone shader and show them the actual thing or at least try to explain to them that it is how it is
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Someone explain "Pantone+ Color Bridge" to me.

The swatches tagged "CP" and "UP"

If I use those and send them to a vendor is that a real Pantone? ?l what makes them different from the standard C/U books?


Even worse Pantone + CMYK Coated/Uncoated.
The ones formatted "P 118-8 C". For example?
Are those actual Pantone swatches?
Or is it just some roundabout way of listing CMYKs?

Gimpbros is it out time?
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Idiot traders think AI is going to replace dedicated graphic design apps.
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>>462336
The latest gimp was actually pretty good, I have to use it from time to time.
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It's Corel's time to shine, baby!
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>>462336
tf happened in january
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Looks like we'll never get premiere for Lanix now.

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hello, just trying to get better at graphic design. i've read "basic principles of design" by maier and "grid systems" by muller-brockmann. i still struggle to figure out how other designers make and use complex grids for their work. does anyone have any resources or advice for this?

also, i primarily use illustrator and indesign (for long form text) atm. does anyone use photoshop for their designs and if so, why and what do u use it for? do u have any concerns about quality of print?

pic related
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>>462806
>resources or advice for this?
The best way to learn is with courses from domestika/lynda/skillshare, especially the ones that have project files, from there you can dissect the files and go layer by layer inspecting and messing with everything, also a lot of schools make you recreate artworks you find inspiring from scratch you learn a lot from that, and some studios have websites where you can learn the most important part which is the case study, meaning a breakdown in writing and step by step, of what the brief was, the problems, the process and solution.

Once you do some case studies you'll be able to communicate more clearly your design decisions and convince people of your expertise, which is a big part of graphic design.

A cheaper or free alternative is on gumroad you can find freebies for layouts and useful things for learning design fundamentals.

>does anyone use photoshop for their designs and if so, why and what do u use it for?
Photoshop is the standard for posters, the main reason is you can work really fast, you can create custom grids like nothing else, and is the best for doing anything with photography or bitmap elements, though I prefer illustrator, and indesign if there's multiple pages.

Also watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzarZJXEDmI
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desu, i think the designs on domestika and skillshare are garbage but i'll check gumroad out. case studies are a good suggestion. thank u.

ty for the photoshop answer as well, clears up the questions i had about it. i used to be photoshop-pilled but heard a lot of people talk about raster stuff and got concerned.

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In case you weren't aware, submissions are open for a little under 3 more days for this logo design contest! (2 days, 23 hours from this post, more or less.) Once all the designs are in, ranked-choice vote decides the main graphical element for the next 4chan inter-board CPU soccer cup!

(Yes this is the 2023 Autumn design; it's coincidentally being hosted by /co/ again, so cartoon and comic inspired designs are not necessary, but will probably do well. That and 2024 Autumn was hosted by the pony board and I don't wanna risk breaking containment.)

Per the organizer: you must supply a high-res PNG file (5000x5000 limit) and the original multi-layer source file. Additionally, you must supply a "qualifiers" version/variant as well as the main logo. Submissions should be sent to his Gmail account, which can be found on the wiki proper. Asset links below!

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/File:4cc-cloverleaf-logo.png
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/File:4cc-cloverleaf-logo.svg
https://implyingrigged.info/Traditional_Clover_Ball.ai
https://implyingrigged.info/Traditional_Clover_Ball.png
https://implyingrigged.info/Traditional_Clover_Ball.svg

HEY ALSO: /gd/ does in fact have its own team, and we're up again for "proof of interest" to demonstrate if the users of the board wanna compete or not. Do we?
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time to complain about bad typesetting in your douj because we're about to play /h/ right now!!!
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Well, it's down to this: we're hoping on a miracle against the horses with personalized logos on their asses, and a tie isn't enough. Game setup is now, kickoff shortly.

(If this is the end of the cup for us, I'm considering bowing out. The team deserves a real manager, with tactics and new Kernings to enjoy. Even if I say keeping the lights on is "better than nothing" that might not actually be true. It's up to you: carry on, or hibernate again?)
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...well, we got at least one more game next weekend and an Elite in 3 months, so put a pin in that until after Winter I guess!
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The free sample isn't enough anymore, pirate the full typeface because we need those hiragana characters: It's /jp/ time!
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Well damn that was an ass-whoopin'. Still, for an autopilot, we stole a promotion! And we avoid a new worst loss AND worst loss of the day... I guess. GGs /jp/.

Thanks to staff for Kernanyo; I still really can't commit to give the team the love it deserves (at least alone...) but I promise to continue providing life support at least long enough for Winter.

AFFINITY IS FUCKING DEAD. It's a zombie propped up by corporate PR bullshit and if you're still defending it, you are a literal, medically diagnosable retard.

`>SOLD OUT TO FUCKING CANVA`
`>THE APP FOR INSTAGRAM INFLUENCERS AND HR DEPARTMENTS MAKING FLYERS FOR THE COMPANY POTLUCK`
`>CEO "promises" they won't force a subscription on us.`
`>OH YEAH? FOR HOW LONG? UNTIL V3?`
`>WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING: A SLOW, PAINFUL TRANSITION INTO A BROWSER-BASED, SUBSCRIPTION-ONLY, AI-SLOP-GENERATING PIECE OF SHIT.`

They were the CHOSEN ONE. They were supposed to be the one company that wasn't trying to ram a subscription fee up our ass every single month until we die. The one place you could actually OWN your goddamn tools.

But no. They took the money. They bent the knee to the same corporate logic that created the Adobe monopoly in the first place. All that "for the creatives" talk was just marketing.

Enjoy your "magic AI logo generator" that shits out the same 5 generic logos. Enjoy the forced cloud integration that holds your own files hostage.

Im going back to the high seas, anons. There's no escaping it now. I paid for affinity but if they keep doing this shit im outta here.
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>>462374
Oktober 30th will tell.
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>>462374
posts that aged like shit award
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did it? they changed the logo and are now using it as a user data harvesting platform giving it out for "free" in a sketchy promise to the investors that it will train neural network agents that will eventually replace graphic designers and generate enormous amount of profit somehow.

sounds very reliable thing to base my projects on long term.
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ah wrong pic
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>>462753
good goy


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