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I want to add the initials "MH" to this, how would you do it?
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>>462110
IDK I'm not good at this
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>>462143
that is cool!!!
I dig it a lot!
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>>462180
Wow, thanks!
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>>462109
>>462108
Mental illness/insanity
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>>462113
>That had some John Deere flavor I'm not quite ok with.

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concerns?
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>>462850
wow it is so derivative, kitsch and plaiy shallow. it serves no point other than caricaturizing the entirety of your favourite pinterest board, seasones with manchild podcast verbiage and stolen pseudo-mysticism. merely suited to be sold at h&m, just after the referenced subculture already started moving on to other aesthetic developments.

the center text element is well made.
but the whole thing is just hedonistic masturbation. equivalent to drip paintings done by alcoholic moms who try to escape having to look at the harsh reality of finding themselves in a life without noteworthy agency.
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random meaningless shit wow so cool
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>>462864
making safe knockoffs of shit that exists is a good way to learn

don't say you weren't making derivative geometric/foliage/splatter brush vomit wallpapers and forum signatures gfx just like all the others in 2005

the use of various photoshop and/or illustrator tools in this one is mostly competent and could apply to something functional. at least it's not some completely directionless retard xD ps filter vomit
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>>462869
fine. I accept value in adding your perspective to the discussion, but I deny it questioning my given criticism.

the final result has exactly the problems I mentioned, mainly that of dishonesty and (grotesque?) derivation. and while it is true that in the confines of your private workspace it is more than okay to produce the trash that makes 80% of what we create, framing and putting it in a public pedestal to be viewed is something else entirely.
>bigger boi setting asks for bigger boi feedbackz

in the context of public artworks it *is* trash that doesn't add anything but regurgitates cultural production into an even more acidic turd.
>human centipede art. of which there exists more than enough already
and if OP is smart they will realize how much more value there is in my seemingly antagonistic reality check over reinforcing their rigid, asset-vomit, prompt-completion process with sugary words.
>but feel free to point out what you think is the most important lesson for OP to learn at this point(?)
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It's ugly. It's the ugliest shit you could possibly make.
99% of homophobia is due to this abomination. If the gay flag were cool, if the colors actually complemented each other, if it had some cool lesbian animal symbolism or something like that people would LOVE the gays.
I try to tell this to people but they're in denial
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>>462187
Actually the number of colours of a real rainbow is variable.
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>>462217
Oh shit, you trigger his Tourette's
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>>457367
cool
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>>462416
FUUUUCK!
I WOULDNT FUCK YOUR MOTHER WITH YOUR DICK!
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>>457131
>>457219

Confirmation fags are retarded.

>hurr durr lets have the rainbow as our symbol because its all inclusive. It represents the entire spectrum of being
> now lets add extra shit to represent nigger and trannies.

Just terminally dissatisfied people. Always looking for something new to moan and attention seek about.

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Since when does this board exist?
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>>462812
2013, always been pretty dead though
font share threads were active for a few years but since that lost traction it's been a ghost town
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Honestly doubt even the jannies monitor this board. It used to be slow but kind of active.
Pretty sure since ai image generation became a thing its died entirely.
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>>462877
it died before that, it happened to other generals or boards as well, when they forced you to wait 120 seconds or pay for a 4chan pass to post, there's tons of gd discords are pretty active
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>>462812
It has existed for a decade at this point but i dont blame people for not knowing it exists when its so dead

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I can't seem to find a stupid questions thread so new thread it is.
I'm a /co/rtoonist and I'm trying to make a comic page template like pic related but with custom measures. On inkscape I managed to draw a rectangle with the specific measures and managed to center it, so I have the safe area but I have no idea how to do the little lines that mark the thirds and fourths.
I assume I should split the faces of the rectangle into individual lines but then what do I use to find the center, thirds etc?
Is this even the right approach for such thing? is there a better way to undertake this?
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Can you just use the pen tool to create lines where you want them.
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>>462843
>is there a better way to undertake this?
I did the same a while ago, I tried using Inkscape for a project and after a couple hours I gave up and went back to Adobe™, Illustrator/Photoshop/InDesign are just reliable and you save yourself headaches and time by working faster and finding tutorials instantly, also if you're making a comic the last thing you want to do is the measures, here's a great description of the process two guys used in the comic watchmen:

https://youtu.be/ouGqN-2efA8?si=KrvlrEd2rssnpk0e&t=363
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OP here, so I powered through it and found the places for the guidelines using the technique described here https://web.archive.org/web/20210612234747/https://andreasaronsson.com/guides/perspective-drawing/divide-into-equal-parts/
I expected to there be something more sophisticated to archive the same results with less work plus I'm not sure how precises is the work I did.
What do you guys think?

>>462845
Yes.
>>462847
I just prefer FOSS software and Watchmen is an example of why these types of guidelines are so important since watchmen sticks to a 3 x 3 grid for all its pages.

What is the name of this graphic design style?
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i might be wrong but i think this falls loosely under Y2K
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Optima yero.
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>>462802
2000s Green Line- English for foreign students
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>>462802
i graduated a community college in 2001 and work a dead end job making mediocre education book covers design style
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>>462852
shouldn't have said 'dead end' as able to do anything useful on a computer was lucrative in the 2000s with a fairly low barrier of entry and actual competency. any retard could claim to be a "webmaster" or a web/graphic designer.

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You guys need to understand something, because when you ask "How do we bring this style back", for any aesthetic you want, you're not getting that these aesthetics didn't exist in a vacuum. They were there to advertise a product, or culture around the product.

You won't bring any aesthetic back, you won't create any new kind of aesthetic, if there is no culture behind it. Otherwise, its just wall paper. You're in /gd/ GD is making wallpaper for a product or culture.

You have to ask yourself, how is a culture formed, how a culture is made, and how does a culture persists. Because culture is what happens when you're not around. its self reinforcing by the people participating.

None of you will bring any kind of aesthetic back without a culture.
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I think there has to be a sense of novelty. It can't be a previously trodden path or else it feels like a spent energy, it feels like forcing something that has long since ran its course. Like a meme or music genre, it's not completely dead but its confined to a small clique of aficionados. It cannot captivate large portions of the population anymore so most people move on to something feels fresh and invigorating.

Moreover it just feels forced. People naturally aren't inclined to make art like they did 20 years ago (which was largely impacted by the technological means that are no longer there). It's easier and more intuitive to just do what you're used to (generic flatshit) or do something new. People don't naturally do things that happen to faithfully adhere to bygone trends. Just just do whatever.

And like a meme, it has to naturally emerge from the zeitgeist. It has to seem like the most befitting thing for the moment. The laser grids of the 80s just aren't gonna cut it for most people.

Stuff like synthwave and vaporwave have a niche appeal that likely could never go mainstream. And even then, it is hardly a faithful implementation of retro aesthetics. They are more of a crude indulgence of stereotypes of the 80s & 90s for the purpose of escapism. It's not forward looking like the retro aesthetics that inspire it. These are dead genres for people who are dead inside.
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>>462363
Looking at OP and this, there just seems to be a sense of individualism on the internet that keeps people from blossoming a movement.
People can hone in their own graphic design and style, but to get a great majority of others to follow is a really hard deal. And to have those other people following not seem like a cheap knockoff is harder. Think of AVGN clones.
You're either doing something new, or knocking someone off, when you actually get enough skill to not look like an amatuer/everyone else.
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>>462363
>Just just do whatever
*They just do whatever

>>462373
It might be the case that artistic trends will come to be less centralized over time resulting in a more diverse and compartmentalized landscape. AI is a big game changer too. The ease with which you can generate art might break the death grip Corporate Memphis currently has (which is mainly used due to how braindead & easy it is to create). Targeted advertising may reflect this, for better or worse. Sites that collect data about you may figure out what aesthetics appeal to you and generate ads accordingly. Web design might also similarly opt for a variety of AI generated layouts. I'm sure people are realizing how repugnant Corporate Memphis is to a lot of people. The world is bigger than the oversocialized bugmen and PMC drones that actually enjoy that garbage. I almost think its intentionally bad as a means of driving away interesting people thus lowing competition for themselves.
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>>462379
>thinks we will be liberated from corporatism by enslaving ourselves to corporate tools (called AI)
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>>462855
>misunderstands the post

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We need to RETVRN to Y2K
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when you try to revive something from the past, you always end up with an inferior bastardization of the original. aesthetics are downstream from culture and represent the culture and world around it.

Y2K died on September 11, 2001 and is never coming back. best you can do start something new
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>>462801
>ads predominantly show Asians and Whites
Well well well
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>>462801
start buying magazines boi
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>>462821
>giving power to 911
y2k aesthetics didn't end until almost 2010
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>>462801
you don't seem to be able to recognize what visual minimalism, a minimal composition is or isn't

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Not sure if this is the right board to ask but how does logos & symbols get professionally printed with such precision on plastic like in pic? What’s this called and how do I do this?
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>>462836
It could be tampography.

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Client asking me to design his book cover

I have no idea how to price it.

What do /gd/?
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>>462442
multiply the number of hours it will take you to make it or it took you to already have made it, by 25 bucks and write a contract for 5% royalties on sales only if it breaches the 1 million dollar sale
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>>462741
My book sold $999,999 you get nothing
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>>462499
did it tho?
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>>462442
cover is pretty cool i would buy the book just for the cover image looks good you should charge good amount
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>>462826
you should give reading proper literature a try

I feel like I’ve wasted 15 years of my life, and my career has led me nowhere. At 35, I should be at my peak in terms of earnings and health, yet I’m a nobody. I keep ending up in shitty companies where I’m expected to do everything while getting paid less than gate keeper. For the past 10 years, I’ve designed websites, logos, mobile apps, print materials, books, t-shirt prints, labels, packaging, product photography, social media content, 3D designs, modeling, animation, and simulations. If I had focused on one thing from the start, I’d be an expert in a specific field by now and making decent money. Unfortunately, the harsh truth is this: if you are able to do anything that means you are good at nothing. When there are job listings for simple graphic work, they don’t want someone with 5+ years of experience. If they do want someone with 5 years of experience, they expect an expert in one particular niche. Today, no one even wants to spit in my direction. No one is looking for a 35-year-old guy who has done everything (but nothing specific) because they have 100 young, dynamic grads fresh out of college to choose from. The competition in the big city is just too strong. For the past 5 years, I’ve been working from home part-time, and somehow manage to pay the rent. The MS diagnosis broke me. Depression, no friends, far from family, always making excuses. If it weren’t for my wife earning well and help from my in-laws, I’d have nothing. It feels like everyone around me is doing fine, earning well, and building great careers - except me. I’m feeling down, I’m sick of this fucking city and its weather. I just needed to get this off my chest.
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>>459830

OP ready Mastery by Robert Greene. Until you do this, keep complaining and eat shit
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the first anon who said specialize had the right idea. if you've been a generalist for years the good news is no matter what you decide to go for you probably already have some portfolio fodder and transferrable skills you can use.

just to give you an example of an absurd specialization that's actually real, look up fictional ui design. there's people who literally just make the ui's inside sci fi films and video games and stuff like that. anything out there that exists and is graphics based, someone designed it, they probably specialize in it, and they probably get paid a ton to do it. you want another weird one? heraldic design. it's actually still used by a ton of organizations and there's firms hiring all the time. there's a ton of graphic design jobs out there people don't even know exist.

so figure out a niche and go all in, you have like 30 more years of a professional life ahead of you. there's never been a better time to pivot.
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>>462653
Yeah thanks, and how am I going to get that job without having an uncle in the industry?
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>>459830
>The MS diagnosis broke me
Wish you the best man. RIP my gamer bro Scoobs
So what are you good at and would actually want to focus on to get better at in the future? Why? Forget money and know your role now and what you're striving for in 1 year, 5.
Anyways post hand I want to see something...
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same fucking situation. Had a good run. Made almost 10.000 dollars per month as a 3D artist. Now i cant find any fucking position. Doing high-end and web programming for fucking 2000 per month and not that works now.

ok, someone explain to me how the fuck pantone Coated Vs Uncoated is SUPPOSED to work.

anyone whos messed about with pantones knows that youre supposed to use C swatches for coated paper, and U for Uncoated paper

but colors NEVER translate across,
1235C looks nothing like 1235U

so what the hell do i do if a clients brand guide only has C swatches?

what do i do if I need to print on the opposite type of surface from whatever swatch i have??

shits garbage
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>>462465
For exmple 185-C is closer to 186-U than 185-U

Yes they don't look alike because U will neve be as bright as C
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>>462467
Tis exactly my problem.

No client (or even project manager) will ever understand that, and they DO get mad about it.
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>>462465
>bullshit system doesn't work.

It works just fine if you follow basic common sense protocols like having the printer provide a final proof of the actual ink color on the actual stock, that the client can then approve and sign off on.

Of course that can create added expense, but that's the cost of high precision/ nitpicking. If the client balks at the time/expense/hassle and says it's not that important then put *that* in writing and have them sign off on that, or politely decline the job if you think they are lying.

If the printer balks at creating/providing accurate proofs then they're the wrong printer for that job/client.

All of this is literally why the Pantone system exists as a color matching standard, it doesn't work without people who understand how to use it.

>So what the hell do i do if a clients brand guide only has C swatches?

Tell him "it doesn't work without people who understand how to use it"
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>>462479
Then buy the Pantone shader and show them the actual thing or at least try to explain to them that it is how it is
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Someone explain "Pantone+ Color Bridge" to me.

The swatches tagged "CP" and "UP"

If I use those and send them to a vendor is that a real Pantone? ?l what makes them different from the standard C/U books?


Even worse Pantone + CMYK Coated/Uncoated.
The ones formatted "P 118-8 C". For example?
Are those actual Pantone swatches?
Or is it just some roundabout way of listing CMYKs?

Gimpbros is it out time?
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Idiot traders think AI is going to replace dedicated graphic design apps.
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>>462336
The latest gimp was actually pretty good, I have to use it from time to time.
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It's Corel's time to shine, baby!
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>>462336
tf happened in january
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Looks like we'll never get premiere for Lanix now.

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hello, just trying to get better at graphic design. i've read "basic principles of design" by maier and "grid systems" by muller-brockmann. i still struggle to figure out how other designers make and use complex grids for their work. does anyone have any resources or advice for this?

also, i primarily use illustrator and indesign (for long form text) atm. does anyone use photoshop for their designs and if so, why and what do u use it for? do u have any concerns about quality of print?

pic related
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>>462806
>resources or advice for this?
The best way to learn is with courses from domestika/lynda/skillshare, especially the ones that have project files, from there you can dissect the files and go layer by layer inspecting and messing with everything, also a lot of schools make you recreate artworks you find inspiring from scratch you learn a lot from that, and some studios have websites where you can learn the most important part which is the case study, meaning a breakdown in writing and step by step, of what the brief was, the problems, the process and solution.

Once you do some case studies you'll be able to communicate more clearly your design decisions and convince people of your expertise, which is a big part of graphic design.

A cheaper or free alternative is on gumroad you can find freebies for layouts and useful things for learning design fundamentals.

>does anyone use photoshop for their designs and if so, why and what do u use it for?
Photoshop is the standard for posters, the main reason is you can work really fast, you can create custom grids like nothing else, and is the best for doing anything with photography or bitmap elements, though I prefer illustrator, and indesign if there's multiple pages.

Also watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzarZJXEDmI
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desu, i think the designs on domestika and skillshare are garbage but i'll check gumroad out. case studies are a good suggestion. thank u.

ty for the photoshop answer as well, clears up the questions i had about it. i used to be photoshop-pilled but heard a lot of people talk about raster stuff and got concerned.

Finally gave in and now be calling my transparent PNG graphics as "cutout" because the transniggers can't stop making 2016 memes about their stupid ass culture. That fucking trans-parent joke gave me bubonic plague for how shit that joke was.
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>>462803
Wiz dancing cutout as compensation
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if you can't use words without feeling selfconscious about some random bsky shitters i think that's a you problem...
though cutout is a better word for what it describes anyway


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