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Since there's already a thread about Pacific Electric, I think I'd dedicate one to its younger Northern brother.
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Did the Key System really die or did it just evolve into BART? BART was already in the planning stages when the last Key trains ran in 1958 and from there it was a mere 14 years before the first BART trains started running.
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>>2059895

It died and was reborn you might say
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So how come the Key System had these ultra-unique cars that weren't used by any other railway?
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>>2056717
>Would have taken you 33 minutes by the 1954 timetable.

Still better than now ironically

>going to the former Transbay Terminal is even worse
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>>2062267
They built them themselves out of normal old cars from the 20s or so.

Are there any actual disadvantages to them? They seem to perform as well as standard bike frames but with the advantage of being easier to mount and dismount without the top bar getting in your way. I know they were originally marketed to women who wore skirts because the top bar on traditional bikes got in the way and exposed their panties but it never quite made sense to me why these weren't just the "default" frame style in the first place, especially since most utility bikes and pretty much every single E-bike on the market uses this style of frame.
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riding a step-through wearing a skirt still sucks, either the wind catches it if it's on the shorter side or if it's longer it slowly rides up from the motion of pedalling
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>>2046762
They’re heavy, floppy, hard to carry, they don’t really have any advantages unless you’re disabled in a way that makes it hard to mount a bike or have 0.01% of the population-tier short legs. Luckily, riding the best bicycle for the application isn’t necessary to enjoy cycling, so they’re still fun.
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>>2062178
post dick
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>>2046762
with modern materials not really

but i find them annoying for mounting cargo within the frame. too many weird angles and not enough space overall. they're also annoying to service for the sole reason that the angled top bar of the frame makes it wonky to lift and maintain level.

they're not bad and i wouldnt not buy a bike over it but if i had the option i would get a "male" frame just so i can mount bags and accessories in it easier and lift/hang it by the frame without wanting to kill someone for the 30 seconds it takes me to finangle it

>>2047181
this has historical precedent; the step-through frame was made to adapt for skirts/dresses/cloaks. though i think it was less because of pantyshots (this will happen while pedaling anyway) and more because it would compromise the warmth of the skirt to not let it drape properly.

>>2046762
>and pretty much every single E-bike on the market uses this style of frame.
this is one of those "one manufacturer got big and everyone copied them" things
but it originally came in because a thicc single bar extending from the pedal gives you room to mount a battery and route cables and spyware internally and such. and once you have all that there and it's as thick as two normal frame tubes anyway, why even bother with the top bar. seriously, the og reason for it was because they were made for rideshare companies and needed to mount mid 00s GPS units and much larger batteries and such in them, and they can get away with just having way thicker walls on the tube because they already need it to be crash and nigger proof.


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>>2062255
I'm post op, sorry >_<

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>3 months
>No major plane crash

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Space transportation general: Stage Separating into a new year edition.

This general is here because spaceflight is increasing exponentially. We are up to at least a launch per week and we are now in the midst of flight testing an industry revolutionizing fully reusable
super heavy lift launch vehicle.

Upcoming launches:

>https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/2025-launch-schedule/

SpaceX livestreams on Twitter/X:

>https://x.com/SpaceX

Upcoming NASA operations:


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TOUCHDOWN
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>>2058757
Pretty incredible
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>>2058757
Also Kino launch
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Setback for V3 booster gor starship
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>>2030718
two retards fighting

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screenshot is from GTA4, I don't think it belongs on /v/
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>>2062131
it belongs on either /v/ or /o/, not /n/
but also yes, it is realistic and in fact pretty tame, there are choppers far more crazy than that one
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>>2062131
Honda sells a factory chopper called the Fury, so yeah it's realistic. I'm not going to go into shit flinging fight whether a factory stock bike can qualify as a true "chop"per, choppers can be anything you want them to be
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Pretty sure it's supposed to be a americans choppers style bike since that show was popular at the time

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>mfw cleaning my bice and saw that my 45mm wide knobbies were chewing through my chainstay on my gravel bice for some time

ordered some 40mm wide hutchinson overide (currently running 45mm Tundra), scared to ride as not to damage my frame further...
the manufacturer said up to 46mm wide...
be honest...am I retarded??
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>>2062118
maybe it was out of round
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Show us the gore.
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>>2062118
>carbon bike
not even once
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>>2062138
Aluminum is just as prone to it, especially from a tire full of grit. But yeah, I prefer aluminum or steel.
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Cool blog. Where do I unsubscribe?

is the dart silver line /n/ approved? it’s scheduled to open in october
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dart has funding issues now
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checked videos and ridership looks pretty low, less than 10% full
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might lose it's two easternmost stops
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>>2057371
They could build their own privacy walls
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>>2045805
NUMBER

UP

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is it possible before 2030?
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>>2061412
I'm excited for this project, even though it will have no impact on me personally.
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trains are extremely overrated by pro train shills. they dont nearly bring as much usefulness as people claim. how often is your average person from estonia really traveling 50+km to justify the need of HSR? does everyone just jump on the train and travel 200km daily for no reason? something like tampa to orlando makes more sense not soviet city 17 to city 20
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>>2061917
>Tampa to Orlando
Stupid italians
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>>2061637
>no one has a need to travel to and from those countries
Having HSR in Baltic countries would both be a strong incentive for people who want to go from Scandinavia to Central Europe (just add a ferry crossing to Helsinki and you got an alternate route from Poland to Finland) and vice-versa, and could also be used to propel the tourism industry in all the Baltic countries. Once Ukraine and Belarus join the EU, they'll actually benefit from having a near-direct land-based link to countries like Estonia and Finland due to HSR infrastructure currently under development.
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>>2062087
NTA; the main purpose of Rail Baltica is freight and military mobility. Moving people is just a side benefit.

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How big can sail boats get? Is there an upper limit?
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>>2061055
>Is there an upper limit?
Relative to how big boats get at all? Not really (above a certain size, finding ports big enough gets hard). But you'd probably want to use modern materials and configurations.
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>>2061721
What about rotors? There are several ships which use them. Can those sail upwind?
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>>2062043
iirc Flettener Rotors work best when sailing upwind but need to be powered, so are more for providing modest fuel savings rather than 100% of the propulsive power like youd get with a more conventional sailing rig
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>>2061055
The problem with sailing ships is that you can't stack containers on the deck. They would have to be xbox-huge to offset that drawback. Technically, it's not that big of a deal, but practically it will cause some issues. Upper limit is dictated by the layout of harbors, bridges, etc.
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>>2061485
the Earth is only holding the future of sail back

Old thread finally hit its bump limit >>1750878

2023 started out as a crazy year on the collectible market but things seem to have settled down a bit
Have you made any new acquisitions ?
What do you wish to buy year?
Collectible bike thread!!
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>>2061558
i love using my frame as a brake
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>>2061564
Aero AF!
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Wtf is this:
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>>2062032
That is clearly 2 of 3.
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>>2062033
Its clearly a malibu barbi MTB

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I have been on this site for 10 years and I only noticed this board today. Since I'm already here, I'd like to ask a question:

Why are train autists so much more hated than other autist brands?
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>>2060462
Characteristics of Rail retard
1. Low boiling point
2. High pride
3. Abnormal obsession with railways, coupled with eco-terrorist/leftist-like thinking
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>>2060514
Touch grass faggot, you make stuff like this up in your schizo head and think you're onto something. It's no different to any other hobby, I don't make it my personality and neither do most that I've known. You talk about "excess pride" when it's literally a matter of telling judgemental pricks like yourself to do one
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By the way, where did this idea that“railway enthusiasts are often autistic”even come from?
if you actually Google it, you'll find sites and descriptions pointing out that connection—it's not like there are zero of them.

i bet there are papers or statistics on it in psychiatry or something.
for example, in other countries, like Korea, there seems to be a derogatory term like“Trainsperger,”and if you search in Japanese, it looks like the word“Railfans”itself has become slang for disabled people.
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>>2060514
Nothing more conservative than not wasting public money...
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whats the deal with that "how to dragon your train" thing

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It's the most wonderful time of the year, and you know what that means? Time for heritage railways everywhere to shake us down for more money with some Christmas-themed excursions.

Post anything holiday trains related. Can be your local Polar Express, Christmas-themed model trains, Rule 34 of Santa Claus shoving a wooden train up his ass. You name it.

I'll start off with Niles Canyon Railway's Train of Lights, which I had the privilege of riding in first class of earlier today.
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The cabooses are available for rentals by private parties
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>be random fisherman on Florida's St. Johns River in 1980
>be on your comfy boat, catching some catfish as your Southern ancestors have been doing for generations
>be anchored next to the local train trestle
>Amtrak's Silver Meteor service passes by as it does every day
>think nothing of it, continue fishing
>suddenly a steaming fat pile of shit lads right on your fucking head
>before you even have time to react to being covered in more excrement than an Indian swimming in the Ganges, the Silver Meteor disappears into the distance
>go straight to the town sheriff to file a complaint
>it turns out that Amtrak's Budd and Pullman-built rolling stock that was inherited from other railroads upon nationalization, are all equipped with direct-dump-on-the-tracks toilets that will literally dump piss and shit on the fucking tracks at high speed; and that this is a practice dating all the way back to the first passenger trains that has essentially remained unchanged in over 150 years
>judge is no more amused than you are, win the resulting lawsuit easily
>literal legal shitstorm ensues as now Amtrak is on the hook for whenever someone gets splattered by human waste from one of their trains
>outfitting the entire Heritage Fleet with retention tanks that are periodically emptied at stations turns out to be too expensive, so most of the fleet is sent straight to the scrapyards as soon as they can be replaced
>incoming Amfleet, Viewliner and Superliner cars all have to be redesigned from the ground-up to use retention tanks
>thus the era of the classical American streamliner comes to an abrupt end
>all because of a fucking toilet

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But what if I have to go right now?!
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>>2061900
Shit in your seat like a real man
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>>2061790
I rode on a historic train in the US in the 90s that just had a hole under the toilet and you could see the ground go by underneath
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America and India Superpower 1917. Greatest alliance sirs joined by the designated shitting rail.
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>>2061859
That's why you want long range lines to have high speed. At an average 150 mph, a 250-mile distance is covered quickly enough for the toilet to remain passable.

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let me guess....
you need more?
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That would actually look bad ass if they did internal cables, got rid of the stupid dropper post, and put on a proper aerocockpit. I realize it's not necessary and not what the customer wants, but it would look totally sick
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NO
I need less!
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>>2061162
>full sussy gravel bike
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>>2061162
these are cool. i dont think i will ever buy one but they are cool.

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Well well well
Looks like you can list high end bikes on bringatrailer now

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-porsche-bike-fs-bicycle/

4 hours left of this baby
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its like a klein but with extra chromosones


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