Does anyone else love good bike stuff but hate how much moralizing has gone into what bike parts/standards are socially acceptable to use?I miss the good old days when the most controversial thing in cycling was not am I a mean judgmental asshole for having something even $1 more than the worst possible piece of shit death trap BSO, but rather, whether you should eat bananas before you ride, or how much water you should be drinking. Can you imagine how much better things would be if we focused on things that matter like whether it's stolen valor for a 50 year old cyclist to date a 25 year old cyclist? Most of all I want misguided luddites to fuck off to the netherlands and stop shitting up a perfectly good thing. There is literally nothing wrong with dicks, crabon, aero wheels, lycra, extremely bright lights that blink, and stuff like that.And furthermore you aren't making things better for cyclists by performatively hating people who enjoy cycling. You're always going to be the annoying faggot who should get off the road (or get off the sidewalk for some of you). Even if you scream how much you hate Castelli gear as you bleed out on the pavement underneath some karen in her SUV.
>>2079122basically you went on the internet and people were having dumbass flame wars, that has been happening since bible days man.there are numerous road riding forums where everybody has the most bike they can afford and rationalizing $1000 hunts for the perfect saddle. Maybe you're hanging out on average iq 70 subreddits and arguing with engagement bots, try not doing that. Well fuck, maybe that's exactly what I'm doing right now.
its less about the hardware itself and more that the market around these sorts of things is dumb as hell and abusive to the consumer, but thats also the case for tons of hobbieslook at what nvidia, AMD and intel did to the PC hobbyist marketlook at what a new car costs these daysand not just the prices but the reasons why, the same things apply to bicyclesif you want to spend 10 grand on a bicycle have at it, its a hobby, its expensive, you can enjoy it to your financial content, but youre not getting 10 grand worth of bike at all and in general youre not seeing anything unique or special to justify such a massive price hike on whats otherwise standard stuff anywayits why people look at 32" wheels with contempt, we all know its just so companies can sell you a new thing, and thats fine, but im still gonna laugh at anyone buying a $2000 steel frameset just because they think having a bigger wheel will make them ride better
>>2079298underrated take in general. By both sides of the "debate." You can't really seperate the equipment and the industries peddling it. We're in an era where the mainstream for most things is comically proprietary and borderline demands lock-in, which is an almost complete about-face from what cycling was like, mechanically, in the 80's. Sure, you always had your french bullshit and your campangolo weird stuff but even with that you can pretty much read up on what the pitfalls are and then just know. Luckily the alt market is still well served, like dia-compe exists. But if you want to really feel anywhere close to the cutting edge you have to buy in hard as fuck and even with the money aside a lot of people just can't bring themselves to it.
Riding a fast bike? Uh no. That's a hate crime
Cycling is about dressing up like a fun toddler with doodles on your body riding at 10mph to drink beer and smoke weed with some lgbtqts
fuck electronic drive trainsfuck ebikesfuck 32"fuck >26" on mtbsfuck 25mm+ on road bikes (unless riding cobbles or gravel)fuck droppersfuck tubelessfuck constant new bb standards, in fact fuck all threadless bbsfuck boa shoesfuck mixing carbon fork with steel framefuck power metersfuck the industryfuck you if you disagreeliterally the ONLY good changes/trends/etc of the last 30 years are fat bikes and disc brakes, and disc brakes mostly only belong on mountain bikesthanks for listening
>>2079647superior at what? being annoying?
>>2079839>foot shaped lastsliterally long pointy mexicano thing>>2079849>REEE but what about the leather washer
>>2079849>I mean the man never owned an actual repair stand, said his rafters worked fineif you go to a real garage this is what they do. Le Park Stand is just purestrain copium for not having a proper hoist
>>2079641>disc brakes mostly only belong on mountain bikesFact#sheldoned
>>2079849>The drunken master showed us the way but we are still afraid to listenHe put LSD in my dad's water bottle
This is what true cycling used to be about
no. this is.
>>2080132Damn dat white boy fine>>2080134Same energy
Soul vs. soulless
>>2080021Incorrect sweetheart. That's not rent. Try again.
>>2079948Good ol' HPS
>>2080035Also I forgot to add, the lamps in picrel have been replaced with LEDs.
>>2080023I do live in europe too, next town is more like 3/4 to one hour of walking for me but that is not the point. I can sinply choose my commute and and other trips to not lead me through town or if the trip has to end in town, take the way in that means least urban environment. Unless it's all one fused continuous city you can avoid those places.
>>2079948boomers will be subjected to this and see nothing wrong with it
How in the fuck are they pulling this shit off? These commies are making us look like clowns! What is the reason for this?!
>>2068617What is kermit so scared of
>>2031662They are smarter and more efficient than western societies, which are all in decline.
>>2031662it turns out that having a centrally planned economy is good for making a railroad network that spans your entire continentalso no ni
>>2031662https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJe7wGUMyTo
>>2053484They also have Bonin Islanders too who are polynesian and western white mixes.
Say that everyone on a commercial jet gets knocked out, except for one passenger. Can a person with zero flight experience land it if they're guided by air traffic control?
>>2080116I assume you know about Helios 522anyways a few jewtubers have done experiments like this, the consensus is generally yes assuming a functional autopilot. considering the nature of survivability in plane crashes, any remotely guided landing has a better chance of at least having some survivors vs what would happen if fuel exhaustion ran its natural course
>>2080116the conclusion that seems to come up for these scenarios is that their biggest hurdles are going to be accessing the cockpit and working the radio. if they can figure that out they can probably be talked down.
Found interesting wiki article on the subjecthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk-down_aircraft_landing
how is the cockpit locked usually i know it locks from the inside but is there a way to bypass it from inside the cabin like in a scenario like german wings flight 9525 for example
Just saw this Japanese train sim about to come out and it looks pretty kino. Got me thinking about other vidyas that might appeal to regulars here.Some that I enjoy>American/Euro truck simulator>OpenTTD>SimRail>Flight Simulator>Bus boundI never found any cycling games that really scratched the itch, either too arcadey or boring race team management stuff. Would quite like an open world to cycle around, with ability to spec bikes, train avatar fitness and maybe set up some touring or bike packing trips.Feel free to share any more
>>2080039The Steam page does a terrible job explaining what the game even is. Is it a more autistic Railroad Tycoon on a smaller scale or what?
>>2080048Not really a tycoon game, you're controlling individual locomotives or a roster of them from above. It's about shunting puzzles and serving industries along a line of track reliably, upgrading the route and the amount of cars you have to work with for each industry
>>2080050looks bretty cool. I wish games didn't all have totally soulless UI elements anymore though.
>>2080109I can forgive train autists for not being UX autists
What's the consensus on sidestands for rail sims? Would you get the EMD or GE stand?
Now that wider tires on road bikes are the default and you can barely even find a rim brake bike for sale anymore (other than at the antique store), how long before Big Cycling realizes there's no more upgrades to sell and if they want to continue selling bikes now they have to promote thin, high pressure tires and turn of the century frames as an improvement (complete with convincing-looking data presented by convincing-sounding "engineers")
>>2076154If dirt bikes go offroad why don't they have pedals?
>>2074259
>>2077947they do. you actuate the rear brake with one pedal and shift gears with the other. the moar u kno
>>2065873>>2066379it's a trvke folksnewskool road bikes are no doubt "better" in many ways but going down that path was a massive faustian bargain. Perhaps inevitable. But it's like full digitization in cars. Way too tempting to the industry to pick up the benefits but there's no fucking closing that door. The spergouts over discs in a road context are especially interesting. You'd think the carbon seat rail crowd wouldn't be the first ones to trade a light and simple fork for absolutely heavy duty stopping power; oh wait, it was never a good faith debate... I mean what the fuck rim brakes are these guys talking about that work so bad, have they only used sheet metal side pulls on a 60's schwinn with steel rims..?
>>2080113yeah, there's no talking to those people. it's all "they're stronger, why wouldn't you want that?" >hubs heavier for disc mount >frame heavier for bracing >fork heavier for bracing >handling affected from fork fuckery>the calipers plus rotors weigh more than rim but everything else must be carbon for weight savings and full aero kit and internal cabling and aero frame because you get an extra watt or two sometimes from those.and the bikes are completely fair-weather bikes, they never get the better braking when wet benefit. not to mention they never go through creeks, mud and dirt like MTB, for which disc makes total sense and, oh yeah, is why they were invented in the first place.better-in-wet for road is an overstated benefit now anyway since kool stop salmons exist. the industry pivot to disc is the most obvious cash grab in the history of cash grabs because, convenietly, your can't just put them on your old rim bike, you need a whole new disc compatible bike. you can't even migrate your old fork and brifters over to a new frame. entire new bike to remain "current" with a new standard that most people do not need and shouldn't even want if they could think clearly about it, not that they have any choice anymore if they're new to bikes.>b-but, better!a jet engine would make my car go faster, which is "better", but no sane person would do that.
This is the O-Bahn.A tram is a train on the road, this is a bus on rails.
These niggas were supposed to have a fully functional test track up and running by 2014.What happened?
>>2079455Why is Morgantown, West Virginia the only city on the world with a successful personal rapid transit system?
>>2079457The Morgantown PRT doesnt service all of Morgantown though, just some college campuses and parking lots.PRT makes sense really just as a shuttle bus replacement, which is why you see it at airports.
cool
>>2078469>called a bahn>is in australiathat's more bizarre than it being a guided busway
Post your favorite or most used train station or bus stop.Once a year or so I like to start this thread, it usually ends up pretty interesting.
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>>2079166It's so weird that canadians say "y'all" now
>>2079995it's only albertans (wannabe americans) and terminally online trendy-lefties (wannabe americans)
>>2052550>global shutter is a meme. No one can even tell the difference
I always liked this one from the Montreal metro. Each station had some sort of art piece installed when it was built in the 60s. This one has some nice stained glass. It's also one of the few ones where sunlight goes thru and illuminates the station, even when you're in the underground train, so you get some sun when you pass through even if you don't stop. Years ago, I had my first love and this was the place where I would wait for her when she came to visit me.
My city is cutting bus routes starting in 2026, so tell me me/n/, do you ride bus routes for fun?
>>2072713I thought it was a chicago map and I was like "whitefish bay? but that's in wisconsin?"
>>2074431It's milwaukee
>>2058540>want to live in milwaukee>don't want to live in a city without a metro or at least a tram system>the hop2.5 miles lolget it together milwaukee
>>2072737>taking greyhound>disparaging people who take greyhoundYou should be nicer to your people, poor
>>2076184Isn't that where dahmer is from
I've been riding hookless toobless for like 10k miles now and I won't go back. I know I'm supposed to be dead or something but I've never had an issue. If it's reliable enough for my fussy complicated european car, it's good enough for my simple mechanical shifting bike. Why do retards think they need hooks? Because they're too stupid to inflate to the correct pressure? Literally just don't pump them up like they're your unc rims from 2007 with 23mm tires. It really is that shrimple! Well that and don't be morbidly obese.
Hookless rims are PROVEN to be faster. Enjoy losing watts while I KOM all over you
>>2078579We learned it from watching you
Tubes are better and easierEnough saidAlso rims are also better and easierNouf sed
i would rather the rim has lips (not "hooks", cyclists stop using the wrong terms for machine elements PLEASE) on it because seating a tire is already enough of a pain in the ass that i dont want it flopping out of the rim every time a fly farts nearby before the job is done>>2078579cyclists are all wannabe renaissance men but are actually complete wrenchlets with no skills beyond memorizing datasheets (but not even able to internalize the datasheets' meanings)
any one here have zipp wheels?i kind of want to get them but i have concerns about hookless and how shit the hubs are compared to chinese wheels
Is there still a fixie subculture anywhere out there, or am I showing my age? Im still enamored with the whole “fixie punk” aesthetic. Considering jumping back on social media is there are still people doing this. But I realize its a niche subculture from the early 2000’s thats been made fun of since day 1.
>>2079538>Fixies are the trannies of cycling?That would be the people who ride escooters.
keep arguing, I’m a fixie riding tranny and my fantasy is getting bullied and humiliated by chud roadies
>>2079742same but I want to be dominated by actual velodrome beasts
>>2079742I'm a weak scrawny di2 beta manlet and I want to be bullied and forcefemmed by a mommy fixie trannie
>>2079485I still do that shit on my way home from work sometimes, it's not the same when you're alone though>>2079939wait you're right that's even hotter>ywn get your skull crushed by some 1k+ watt track racer thighs>>2079940>slips estrogen in your bidon
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>>2078164I cry everytime
>>2079922oh I'm leaking something salty all right but it's not tears
What is it that makes a BSO a BSO and not a Bike? Can a BSO be elevated to Bike status with upgraded components?Is the term BSO throw around too liberally to even be taken seriously anymore?
>>2077690looks perfectly cromulent to me
>>2077703>anon teaches me a wordDoesn't happen very often. Many thanks.
>>2077690noice
>>2077704>anon gets his vocabulary embiggened
>>2080028>enibignigged
