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If steel is so great, why do the companies that make the best steel tubing in the world use carbon for their forks?

If steel is so great, why do the finest steel bikes in the world use carbon forks?

It seems to me that steel has an aesthetic value that cannot be substituted by anything else, but as a material for building bikes, its value decreases the more that is demanded of a component.
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The important thing is that we all agree, aluminum a shit
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>>2066804
Hard disagree faggut
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>>2066804
aluminum is adequate
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>>2066804
if you're riding a Pordelo Industries G+, you're not allowed to shred the gnar-gnar.
if you're rolling a Klein, go nuts.
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>>2066804
I dont see boeing using steel or carb- oh nonononono

Is riding on top end groupsets if you're not a top end cyclist stolen valor? Or is this sour grapes?

What groupset would you ride if you could get any groupset you wanted for free, but when/if you sold the bike you would have to price it as whatever groupset you ride now. That is, if your financial circumstances were no different and you were subject to the same "rules" as you currently as in terms of other people judging (because we all know unlimited wealth begets shamelessness), what do you choose?
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>>2064022
Trees are for faggots. Technology will fix it.
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>>2064064
is that LCL?
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>>2060840
Actually shimano is the stiffeset, so it probably does flex quite a bit more
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>>2064064
>a fucking ATM filled with algae
YOURE STOLEN VALORING ME
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>>2064064
They made a sequel to Liquid 2?

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>Here's your Indian architecture bro
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The extra lane on either side are DESIGNATED
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>>2064853
Lmfao
Is it noida? I'm pretty sire the overpass cutting through the city has this exact problem
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>>2064853
>architecture
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>>2064853
You just know that Trucks are going to be flying off the ends of those two lanes into the neighborhood below.
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Apparently the idea is that the road will be extended at some point, the middle ramp is an exit. But it looks very goofy when it's unfinished like that

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Is the high speed rail destroying air travel there?
I've been noticing there are fewer and fewer (direct) travel options from northern europe to galicia each year.
Can any spaniard here shed a light on this?
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Spics are just lazy and poor. Look at their economy, place in yuropoorland, and ask yourself the question again
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I mean why would you go there it's cold and wet

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It’s better
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>>2064244
>Also, don't forget the asshole factor. Riders will drop stuff on people or houses or cars. People on the ground will harass riders (lasers, bb guns)
thankfully none of this is a problem with other forms of public transit
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>>2064430
>Doesn't know about lifts with mid stop loading/unloading
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>>2064029
Liability. Have to child proof the world or else its a blank check from the taxpayer.
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Ropeways are great especially in challenging terrain, but gondolas tend to be better than chairs in urban environments.
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>>2066787
Portland Oregon

30 years after Mavic Zap, I finally tried three different bikes with electronic shifting (Rival, Force, and Red/XPLR) and it reminded me of the first time I got my dick sucked. It was alright. I'm glad I experienced it. But the overall feeling was like.... "that's all? that's what all the hype was about?"

I am glad it's a thing, I'm glad it's available, I would never tell them to un-invent it. I suppose if you offered to upgrade my current bikes with all electronic I'd probably go for it (might have to think it through first). Overall, it was a disappointment.

So what did I miss here? Is Shimano better or Campy maybe, was the problem fookin SRAM? Is it less about the ride and more the long term ownership experience, the maintenance perhaps? Why do people fork out 2-3x the monies over the cost of perfectly good mech shifting? I can't believe I'm even saying "perfectly good (old thing)". I love my hydro dicks, I love my crabon wheels, I would never go back and those were worth every penny, but the e-shifting was a big letdown. Again, it was fine, but just fine. For all the hype I expected to ejaculate instantly.
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>>2064909
I built a couple of rim brake wheels (different specs) a year or two ago. I didn't have any trouble finding rims or hubs. velomine is still full of rim brake wheels.
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>>2064929
oh it's you, the velomine guy. yes, I've perused your site. it's not bad for an index of dumpster dive finds. you should probably buy an ad though.
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>>2054387

It exists, it's called enviolo automatic. It's a CVT and it's fitted to e-bikes because of the weight/resistance, but it's really nice. You set a cadence and the system auto adjusts the gearing for you.
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Some day electronic shifting will be the default and rich people will dab on everyone else with their expensive boutique mechanical shift bikes
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let's be real, 90% of riders actually shift maybe once a month

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I have been on this site for 10 years and I only noticed this board today. Since I'm already here, I'd like to ask a question:

Why are train autists so much more hated than other autist brands?
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Synthesising here autists like trains as a barreling heavy machine fatalistically determined to wreck cuter objects elicits self-pity
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>>2057954
>OP claims train autists so much more hated
>furries exist
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>>2062053
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>>2060285
/n/ told me poors can't afford cars and therefore the people shutting down intersections to do burnouts are job creators and I should be grateful for their existence, you guys wouldn't lie to me would you?
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>>2057954
I don't think this is true at all. Train autists are viewed affectionately as they remind us of ourselves when we were 4. They are often declared the most autistic autists but their autism is pure. Most of them genuinely enjoy real life trains, and while I am sure it exists they do not have a reputation for making lots of nasty porn and weird fanfiction. They also do not shit up other spaces or act annoying.

Why weren't these a thing more often in the heyday of railroads?

>gives freight trains an additional source of income
>passengers can presumably pay for tickets less since freight trains usually run on slower schedules
>allows for mixed trains without the need to pull a coach from regular passenger service
>can be coupled to the back of a regular passenger train during periods of high demand, the crew will enjoy the added privacy too
>lonely freight train crews will enjoy the additional company
>can be outfitted as extra crew accommodation when not in revenue service
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here in Chicago I sometimes see a CNW caboose roaming around in active service.
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>>2061649
>fire regulations for a shipping container

Aren't they already pretty fire resistant owing to their all-steel construction? Or do you mean things like installing electrical wiring/stoves in one?
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>>2056654
blocks your path
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>>2056653
>>2056654
>human trafficking, but not profitable
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>>2061938
fire resistant compared to what? it's one thing to have it survive a dropped cigarette but I'm pretty sure if you stuck a tesla in a shipping container it would find a way to burn down the entire ship

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I'm genuinely sad a copy of this book costs over $2k. I'm praying that christophers new book succeeds in sales so that Mattel or whoever the owners are would reconsider putting it back into distribution again.
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>>2062659
I have a copy, it was a good read. I also hope it goes back into publication
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>>2062659
just pirate it lmao
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>>2063342
There's no need to pirate it. It's available on the internet archive. But it's never the same as owning a copy you can hold in your hands, studying it in your free time, reading it before bed every night or reading it while drinking coffee.
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>>2063331
Wilberts lore book is my white whale. I have both rbtl copies from 2005 and 2025, both signed by christopher awdry. I will never part with them.
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>>2062659
Any cases of crowds petiiton for pressings of any book? Would that be enough for you?

GPS used to be fancy, and is now affordable
Carbon frames used to be fancy, and are now affordable
Carbon aero wheels used to be fancy, and are now affordable
Hydraulic brakes used to be fancy, and are now affordable
Wireless shifting used to be fancy, and is now affordable
Good tires used to not even exist, and are now available albeit a little expensive
Lighting used to be heavy and annoying, now it clips to anything and you can light up the road with something the size of your thumb
Wide range cassettes used to be unimaginable, now some lazy people are even going 1x because they got filtered by 2x

It seems like it's all been done. Seriously, what's left. What else is there to improve? We even got bonuses like thru-axle, 3d printed saddles, internal routed everything, and aero frames/cockpits, which let's be honest, you weren't really expecting were you?

Can the cycling industry outdo itself or is it now a plateau of stagnation?
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>>2058538
>The bike is a solved invention,
true, which is why every "innovation" is proprietary junk designed to fail in a rent-seeking scheme to make you buy replacement parts every five seconds but only from one (1) "manufacturer" (american grifter whomst is outsourcing to chyna)
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>>2065297
always kids who say this because they never saw the march of tech or had to deal with old shit for reasons other than making a tortured argument against buying things
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>>2065307
i work IT in a place that uses a lot of old tech and honestly while it wasn't better, most of the reasons it wasn't better are the exact same sort of "you have to be in our Software-Hardware Ecosystem :)" grift where everything is terrible because one company makes most of it and has no impetus to make it at least always functional, let alone good
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>>2064013
Agree to disagree
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>>2020833
>Wide range cassettes used to be unimaginable
Simple to make, especially in the friction shifter days. The rise of indexed shifting may have made things more difficult but it was probably just the industry waiting for a market.

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>That cylinder is a mass dampener also known as a J dampener in physics.The purpose is to neutralize high frequency low amplitude oscillations.Mass dampeners are currently used in Moto GP and were banned in F1 in the mid 2000s.The mass dampener can also be placed on the fork,above the bottom bracket and as shown on the rear swing arm/triangle on a full suspension bike.
have these been used on road bikes yet? i have a stiff track bike fixie, anything that could improve performance or comfort would interest me. i haven't paid attention to bike stuff lately so idk if it has been mentioned on GCN/GMBN yet. GCN has done a lot of videos on tire pressure so i could see them experimenting with tuned mass dampers.
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>>2019204
>have these been used on road bikes yet?
yes, you literally posted a picture of such. but it's snake oil, your bike doesnt vibrate at a high enough frequency for such a small weight to matter and in general vibration is mostly caused by external factors like road surface or you being too stupid to maintain your bike properly

>>2019229
f1 tracks are also flatter than your sister thoughbeit and f1 drivers complain incessantly about road circuits where the asphalt isn't better surfaced than airport tarmac

>>2019237
this but for my shitty ebike. the 90kg of batteries make me go like 30kmh on the gentlest downhills without doing anything.

>>2019396
compound bows rule, i own one and it owns in general
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>>2060905
>ebike owner trying to talk bikes
Lole
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>>2043618
Agreed
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>>2019204
A good saddle and bigger tires is all you need, get a b17 and 32s or 35s. But you deserve to suffer if you are riding a track bike on the streets.
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>>2060905
>yes, you literally posted a picture of such.
that is not a road bike.

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Now that wider tires on road bikes are the default and you can barely even find a rim brake bike for sale anymore (other than at the antique store), how long before Big Cycling realizes there's no more upgrades to sell and if they want to continue selling bikes now they have to promote thin, high pressure tires and turn of the century frames as an improvement (complete with convincing-looking data presented by convincing-sounding "engineers")
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>>2066379
Rim brakes of any kind are inferior to discs because rims pick up more water and road depots, and due to the fact they’re a solid flat surface, don’t shed that material during braking, reducing initial braking performance and fouling the pads much more quickly.

The world of motorsport figured this out over a century ago, before they figured out helmets prevent head injuries, it’s incredibly obvious to anyone with any spatial reasoning ability.

Hydraulically-actuated slotted disc brakes are more powerful, more easily modulated, more easily cooled, and more reliable, than any rim brakes.
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I've never in my life had problems w rim breaks when conditions are wet but I'm not a faggot driving two states away to a mountain range where I only ever do the descents
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>>2065873
TPBP
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>>2066701
Being a flatlander must be absolute hell if this is the kind of cope you have to tell yourself, no wonder you guys are so bitter that you spend all this time on internet bike communities telling people that gear ranges and good brakes are useless
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>>2065873
I think dropper posts on road bikes are already a thing for certain races

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>forced to move to northern vagina from idealic merrimack valley massachusetts
>everything is worse
I do live near dulles though and I can see planes approach the runway at all times of the day. I didn't really think of anything of it at first but its really nice and soothing to see planes just going about their business every day. I can see them clearly from my dining room table and watch them while I eat.

It's peak cozy ngl.
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did they seriously name an airport/town after the fucking director of the CIA
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>>2066639
No, they named it after his brother, but why would you be surprised if they did around DC?
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>>2066639
The entire city is designed in a pentagram anon, that's the least of your concerns
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>>2066639
DC’s other airport is named after the guy who fired 10,000 airport employees in one day. Denver’s was named after a Klansman and Vegas’ was named after a senator who was considered xenophobic even by 1950s standards.
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>>2066645
i wouldnt be but i thought Allen Dulles was considered a no-nonsense competent but not glamorous director who paved the way for the CIA to be respected and then destroyed by glory-seekers

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>mfw cleaning my bice and saw that my 45mm wide knobbies were chewing through my chainstay on my gravel bice for some time

ordered some 40mm wide hutchinson overide (currently running 45mm Tundra), scared to ride as not to damage my frame further...
the manufacturer said up to 46mm wide...
be honest...am I retarded??
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>>2064254
If you have more than one bannable post in a single janny visit they usually just delete everything from your IP address rather than go through everything
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>>2062118
let's drift!
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>>2065375
https://youtu.be/i8LVMhzgO-Q
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>>2065375
You can drift on a fixie when it gets icy, best is when cars pack the snow to almost but not quite ice. Lean just a tiny bit into the turn then backpedal, you will be able to actually pedal backwards with no effort if conditions are right and it will swing your ass out in the opposite direction of your lean. Once your ass has swung out to the direction you want to go, start pedaling forward like mad, you will drift the corner. Probably not a smart thing to do but it is good fun.
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>>2062991
soft

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Just think... we could have been exploring the stars by now...
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>>2065382
Does the purple line even exist? I mean, I haven't rode on the metro in awhile, but I think this map is fake. I don't think the pink line exists either. And the yellow line terminates at Huntington. There are no metro stops at West Potomac or Mount Vernon or Fort Belvoir. And it would be impossible to even set those up without uprooting a ton of people's residential neighborhoods. I literally went to high school at West Potomac and its in the middle of a residential neighborhood. There's nowhere to put a metro station there without tearing down a bunch of peoples homes. I feel like this map was made by some retarded civil engineering transplant.
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>>2065561
it is in TOKYO
https://youtu.be/T56QACC76GE
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>>2066489
>he doesn’t know
Bro, it’s what someone wishes WMATA could be.
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>>2066527
I think its pretty fine as it is though. There's no point to whats in the OP pic except like, metromaxxing for the sake of it.
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>>2066499
wmata destroys tkmty in system/station design it's not close. toei chika is even worse. like wtf is iidabashi. how can almost every major transfer point be so awful on a (mostly) masterplanned system. the marunouchi ginza akasaka mitsuke transfer being fantastic of course. most of toei's own transfers are outside the fare gates or even outside the station!! a real no latch inhibitor. why is shinjuku sanchome designed such that the transfer corridor is so low capacity it has to be closed during rush and you are forced to go upstairs and exit gates instead?? its like after the second line was built, every line was treated as just an extension of whatever private railway it links up to with no thought to how it interacts with the rest of the so called "network"


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