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If they were, how would it change the world?
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>>2031276
Children, subhumans, and midwits would cry about "jetpack-oriented cities"
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>can a very inefficient mode of transportation ever be as cheap as a moderately efficient mode of transportation?
no, dummy, unless you build a society centered around subsidizing jetpacks.
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>>2031276
That landscape is utterly barren. Where the hell does all their water come from?
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>>2031667
desalination plants powered by cheap oil. also it rains occasionally
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>>2031352
>>2031359
Imagine getting stuck in jetpack traffic.

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Can I into gliders as a poorfag?
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>>2030701
in other words, not even half as long as this site exists
come back in 2069, when they've been here for at least 4/5 of its existence
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>>2030692
how so? the club where i live offers 20 minutes sightseeing flights for tourists for 120€ which includes an aerotow to 2600 ft, so the price for a tow doesn't seem to have changed that much?
anyway pretty sure winch launching is free for members and has existed for a very long time
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>>2030692
>a different time
2022?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0nsVzK0tik&t=1m20s
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>>2030756
How about we compromise at 3/5?
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Polite Bump

Any other private owners lurking here? What's your ship?

Last April, a company called Dreamstar Lines announced plans for an overnight service between Los Angeles and San Francisco, in effect, restoring Southern Pacific's Lark service, the overnight equivalent of the more famous Coast Daylight, which ceased service in 1968.

What we know:

>the train would run between Los Angeles Union Station and San Francisco's 4th & King Street Caltrain station
>rolling stock will consist of streamliner cars built in the 1940s and 1950s
>actual train consist would be a locomotive, 5-6 sleeper cars, and a lounge car serving drinks and "tavern food" (idk what that would entail)
>the train would run on a ten-and-a-half hour schedule, departing around 10pm and arrive at its final destination at 8:30am
>Tickets will be in the $300-$1000 (the minimum is slightly higher than the current price for a private room on Los Angeles-Oakland on Amtrak's Coast Starlight at $284)
>there will be no coach service, sleeper class only
>the company hopes to begin operations by Summer, 2024
>the project is far enough along that negotiations with Metrolink and Union Pacific for right of way have already started

The most detailed sources I could find


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Apparently BMW's involved now for some reason

https://lamag.com/latravel/luxury-sleeper-trains-set-to-connect-la-and-sf-overnight
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>>1992961
>LA traffic makes it take nearly as long to drive down as go by rail

Just drive at night, you can do it in like five hours
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Nobody gives a fuck, let the thread die and start a new one when something tangible happens
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>>2028656
I care
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>>2031508
Nobody gives a fuck

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Any of you guys live in New York and ride the train? What was your experience?
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I'm moving back to NYC soon. Looking forward to less traffic on the streets now that they have congestion pricing.
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>>2031184
>the reason the busses are slow is because of car traffic.
they are slow because they stop every 12 feet
> had trip speeds that were nearly four minutes shorter
wow, 4 whole minutes, while still being slow as fuck and smelling like piss and being full of crackheads and pieces of shit who blast terrible music. still 4 times slower than driving, still the worst experience ever
>jalopnik is a car blog.
jalopnik is owned by gawker which is a left wing jewish chinese communist company that wants to ban cars and guns
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>>2031191
have fun when the rest of the businesses close
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>>2031215
actually correct

jalopnik is a car blog like streetsblog is about cars

and buses have to make 30-50 stops to get to my final destination which is why my commute is 90 mins by bus (40 stops on the q3, then 34 stops on the q17) and 20 mins by car

guess who's driving despite having the highest insurance rates, registration fees, tolls, having to look 30-60 mins for street parking at times, etc
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>>2031222
>guess who's driving despite having the highest insurance rates, registration fees, tolls, having to look 30-60 mins for street parking at times, etc
>New York my son, people must commute to work. You must decide
>Do you improve mass transit with the billions and billions of dollars the MTA spends each year?
>Or make driving worse and worse until it's somehow worse than transit?

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>live near some farm fields
>there is a lap (~10km) that I do on the dirt roads between the fields thats pretty fun
>go do it after work, reach around midway
>they plowed the fields
>road is basically just a bunch of loose dirt now
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>>2031387
balkans
some of them were plowed, it fucking sucks

I had to drop to the near town as it was getting dark, and I literally couldnt pedal uphill on the loose soil...
I wonder if I take my moms 4wd toyota and do a couple of back and forths the dirt will compact and be fine to ride
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>>2031387
Wow what a classic vid
When I finally saw her tits I simply moved on
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>>2031385
I kno that feel.
On my fav 50km road lap, they removed an entire road.
It was a small paved road between fields with low traffic. Now it's gone and I have to detour on a larger road.
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>>2031407
Link please (for research purposes)
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>>2031456
Katee Owens

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Is it the blimp trains time to shine?
Could this be used to get Ukraine grain to the rest of europe?

They have different rail gauge between rooskie and EU tracks but blimp can be handed off with out even slowing down

THIS CAN WORK???!!!!!!!
BLIMP TRAIN HOLEY ROLLER
RIDE ON THE BLIMP TRAIN
BLIMP TRAIN SAVE THIS COUNTRY
AND MAKE IT WHOLE AGAIN

Now Im on the edge of something
Wondering bout the blimp train
ooooohhhhaaaaa eeeeeaaaaahhhooooaaaa
Talking bout the blimp train
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>>2025178
/n/ has a time machine anon, we all use it
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>>2022388
how do you mean?
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>>2022388
of course
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>>2024303
women will look like this and then have the nerve to complain when I just want to get topped by men
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>>2030796
what are you trying to say?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkI6Fmet4FE
>build giant transit system with biden bux
>no one wants to use it in very typical government project fashion
>jillions wasted
>"UHHHH THE SOLUTION IS IMMENANT DOMAIN TO FLOOD AREAS AROUND TRAINS WITH CHEAP HOUSING"

The mindvirus strikes again. Once again they think society should be built to make their policies work, not policies built to help society work.
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>>2031173
What is wrong with you?
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>>2031168
The USPS in certain places practically is welfare for blacks. The union won't let them fire the useless ones so yes it's a jobs program.
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>>2031168
The USPS loses money in part because it has to service everybody. Trains and transit only work on a very small geographical area of a city, and yet everyone who lives within 50 miles of the city is expected to pay up.

This is pretty sketchy as-is if we didn't have retards screaming about suburbs "aren't paying their fair share".
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>>2027390
I live in Denver. In order of importance, the reasons nobody uses rail here is 1. the constant presence of homeless people on transit, 2. the fact that the train routes don't service large portions of the metro area and that some travel by bus is generally necessary (and the buses are even more inundated with homeless people), and 3. the trains tend to run behind schedule and it's hard to reliably get somewhere on time.

The video you embedded is correct on some accounts and incorrect on others. The crux of his argument, about the train stations being in largely unpopulated and random areas, is true. You can still use RTD to get places, but in general, a train ride is one leg of a public transit journey here, and some amount of bus riding is virtually always necessary. At the end of the day, the reason that's unattractive to most people who live here is the fact that the buses are fucking filled with homeless people and crime. I suspect this is probably the case in most other cities of Denver's size with unused rail lines.
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>>2031168
USPS is an anachronism like trains themselves. Oh nooo... what if I couldn't get my junk mail? Nothing would change if USPS simply went away at this point.

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>bro just 10, I mean 20, I mean 30 more years and the US will totally look like this
>oh yeah that project got cancelled
>and that one
>yeah that one was a complete failure
>that one didn't even last a month
>but this one's coming soon! (we've pared it down to a single unprotected bike lane for half a mile)

At what point do you just give up and accept the United States is a lost cause
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>>2030757
Why would Americans learn third worlder language?
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>>2031399
>poor access to services in the countryside
such as?
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>>2031399
Ah yes, the vitally necessary cultural enrichment package.
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Actually, light rail in Salt Lake City, UT is pretty based. Yeah it does the usual "hardly faster than walking" thing in the downtown area, but once it leaves that, it really hauls ass - maybe up to 60 mph? Anyway, it actually goes out to where people want to live, which is the suburbs, and it does it pretty well. So if you want to be a train fag, I suppose it's not a bad place to do it.
That said, if you don't have a car you are totally missing out, there's awesome driving all over the place there.
Urbanist limpwrists usually point to places like NYC and Boston - crime-ridden, unaffordable shithole and unaffordable, NIMBY-extreme shithole - places only wealthy faggots actually enjoy. To everyone else, it's a rat-race nightmare of struggling to afford it, and if you're anywhere near mass-transit, you can't afford it.
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Actually if you build more urban housing you don’t even need as much transportation infrastructure in general because people can just walk and bike. Or use the current transit infrastructure more.

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>>2030924
working on your bike is not wasted time if you enjoy it
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>>2031176
nobody enjoys working with chains, they get dirty and disgusting
it's like changing the diapers, no matter how much you like being a parent, that is at best a part that you tolerate
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>>2031177
There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so. instead of despairing over how dirty a chain can become, one can feel satisfaction and gratitude in seeing it clean and shiny again.
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>>2029565
marketing scheme developed by big rear hub and big bottom bracket
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kino

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One day one of these bad boys will crash.

If you're on that flight make sure you take a selfie for the Guinness world record
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>>2029868
Jesus fucking christ. I had forgotten about that. They almost did a bowling strike of three planes, plus the AC759. Total of 4 aircraft destroyed.

>>2029726
Not true. Emirates largest A380 operator has an A380 config with 615 seats (58 biz+557 coach) + crew. Handily beats the 583 dead in Tenerif and 509 dead on JAL123
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>>2029858
aviation is safe in spite of regulation, not because of
technology has removed all the causes that actually crashed planes
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>>2029678
Obviously because it's fucking massive. Even the more iconic 747 pales in size and sheer beefiness. When you see one in person you realize just how big they are, the vertical stabilizer alone is the size of some entire planes. It's the biggest plane you could realistically fly on without having to the military.
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>>2029666
Sadly they'll probably be all retired before they even have a chance to cause a horrific crash.
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>>2029831
It might be able to maintain altitude if the weight is low enough.

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>finally bite the bullet and move to Eastern Yurop from NA
>doesn't make financial sense to pay to ship my bikes, sell them before moving
>move to small but comfortable commiebloc apartment
>having a bike would take too much room + I don't have a lot of space to perform maintenance
>most people who commute to work outside of cages and public transport seem to use e-scooters here wtf lol
>(except for food delivery jeets who exclusively use e-bikes and chinese gas powered scooters/mini motorbikes)
>used bike market is shit and filled mostly with expensive full suspension MTBs probably stolen from Germany or literal trash
>decide to buy a cheap commuter kick scooter to try out / get around and explore
>turns out it's fantastic for commuting in a dense euro city
>decide to rent an e-scooter to get across the city one day to see what it's like
>it's fast, nimble and super fun
>stores easily and can cross the city twice on one charge
>don't have to get to work covered in sweat
>easily take it on public transport if needed


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>>2030448
>stable from 10 km/h
Wtf anon??
Do you fall over if you do 5km/h?
My bikes are stable from literally 1-2km/h or how this anon said >>2030481 from literally standstill
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>>2030481
>>2030482
I guess my definition of stable is different from yours.
For me things are stable when you don't need to actively correct steering or weight balance.
Obviously, you can ride bicycle at any speed you want, hell even trackstand, but that takes a bit of effort... Kind of like balancing a pencil upright (the infamous inverted pendulum).
Other thing I should mention is that in general, the stability of bicycle is greater, because small disturbances on the road (i.e. pebbles and uneven pavement) don't affect anything much at all and you can ride with hands off the bars without any issues. But in case of the e-scooter with its tiny wheels, hands-free riding is only possible on extremely smooth pavement since any pebble will upset steering enough for you to loose balance.

Other thing to consider is turning radius. Actually, maybe it is much more important than stability lol. dunno.
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>>2029905
in a city with cycling infrastructure these things are so fucking awesome
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>>2029905
Your opinion should be disregarded because no intelligent human would move to Eastern Yurop from NA, cutting their salary 70% in the process

Your greentext also sounds reddit tier

>>2030541
riding even one handed on an e-scooter is extremely unstable and dificult. Meanwhile I can easily ride with no hands on a bike.
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>>2030760
Just moved to western Europe. Make more now than NA. 3bdroom Apt less than 800. 200 a month for groceries. My bank account looks phat. Good bye america. Keep taking your copium.

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redpill me on sky janny
>all the liabilities of aviation, 0 the fun
>more stressful than being an actual pilot
>be sitting at 0 kt GS all day; probably can't even see outside
>your job depends on periodic health checks up as stringent as pilots
>lengthy training regime
>one oopsies and it's over

what seems to be the appeal?
was it the job security? the power trip of ordering planes around
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>>2031247
don't you have to be under 30 to get in the door?
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>>2031250
yeah age limit basically just like commercial pilot entry
also the acceptance rate is low and the training is lengthy

https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2023/11/faa-looking-at-ways-to-curb-controller-academy-wash-out-rates-00128065
https://www.aviationjobsearch.com/career-hub/articles/career-advice/air-traffic-control/how-long-does-it-take-to-become-an-air-traffic-controller

but instead of flying you stare at a screen all day
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>>2031209
>redpill me on sky janny

Its a highly important skill that isn't taught in college. So you can have a hs education and a clean piss test and psych and make 100k a year.

You can live and work in aviation and afford your own Cessna and get licensed. You make 40k a year more than a pilot at a small regional commuter airline.

The story was always you could do it out of HS but I'm not sure since there are so many people coming out of the military.

Seems like it would be a good career.
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>>2031247
>For someone with a high school diploma you're not going to find a job with a better salary and benefits than ATC.

I can think of one...nuclear defense industry.

Honeywell will pay you 100k to retrofit nuclear weapons missile triggers. They have to be replaced every 20 years.

You need a top secret clearance. All the people they hire are either 18 year old hs grads or fresh out of school engineers for the supervisors. They pay you to sit in the office for 6 months doing nothing while you get the TS clearance.
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>>2031295
At the plant in KC? I live near by and do LE already but it's a fuck

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What could have been done to save the Pacific Electric Railway?

What would public transit in LA be like today if it had been?
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>>2015105

To be fair, that would still have put PE in a bad position once passenger rail started declining in the late-40s and those terminals started seeing much less usr
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>>2011628
>>2011630

Is there any website that tracks the individual Muni street cars?

I've always wanted to ride the Pacific Electric one but always wind up missing it.
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>>2028236
Yes, here https://streetcar.live/
The PE one is actually out as I'm typing. But it's not really an original PE streetcar, it's just painted in the livery.
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>>2028237

cool
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>>2020053
>Yes but extensive doesn't equal good if it means to many branches with low demand.
That's a bit of a trap. You can't shut down feeder lines just because there's low ridership. They're the ones bringing pax to the main ones. Back in the 1980s British Rail shut down a lot of low-usage 'capillaries', and ridership completely collapsed across the board (including in lines that were previously profitable). The entire network must be approached holistically.

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Honestly, I'm just happy this adds frequency in Florida and on the Chicago <-> Pittsburgh routes

It's called the Floridian
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>>2027711
I don't understand the difference - the Chicago - Pittsburgh route goes through much bigger cities on the way than the Edinburgh - London route

Population served is less in the UK, as it goes down the east coast, which is relatively lower population

I would say the big difference is that the public transport on both ends is better in the UK, so the long distance train makes sense

Whereas you get your train to pittsburgh, and then what? How do you get to the end destination?

Feels like that should be dealt with before proposing epic intercity trains
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>>2019971
Kek
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>>2028399
Here's what you are missing: London and Edinburgh are the ONLY TWO PLACES TO GO.

The States United have a Million places to go, so people go all over the place. Density is very very low, which is why cars work so well.
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>>2031002
I mean, Europe has a million places to go, so people go all over the place

You can still have good public transport with lots of destinations. And in that corridor from Chicago to Pittsburgh the density is very similar to many european countries with decent intercity trains

The fact that the USA has shite public transport is a choice, not a natural result of the lay of the land, could be crime related, everytime i've taken the bus or train in the usa there have been some kind of fights or druggies
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>>2031114
Foreigner "knows" what the US needs to do


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