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I’ve always wanted to live the mid-20th Century experience of riding a Pullman Sleeper hauled by a steam locomotive roaring through the night and while I have been fortunate enough to ride steam excursions many times and even do an overnight ride on an original Pullman car, I’ve never been able to do them together.

Is there anywhere in the world where I can actually still take an overnight train hauled by a steam locomotive? The closest I’m aware of is the modern Orient Express being steam-hauled through Hungary as a one-time thing in 2017 and the Cumbres and Toltec possessing a restored tourist sleeper coach (idk if it’s ever been used in that role).
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>>2082810
Oi, you got a loicense for that shitpost, nigger?
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>>2082780
lmao
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Not at all an answer to your question OP but thought you might like the feel of this advertisement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_hjM35VPnk
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>>2080950

Did the San Juan Limited ever carry sleeper cars? Most of the consists lists I've seen have it only carrying daytime passenger and parlor cars.
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>>2068056
how do oil fueled steam engines compare to internal combustion electric propulsion?

>essential tools to have
>recommended toolset brands
>memes to avoid
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this thing can do literally anything
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>>2084089
One of the best investments I ever made.
Like a crescent wrench but it doesn't round the fuck out of your bolts
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>>2084102
>>2084089
Based Knip bros, I stole mine from work like a nigger though
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>>2084119
I should do that
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>>2083758
put a rod in the middle and you've got a dishing tool too

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An entry level new bike, that is agreeable to ride, not dragged down by antiquated standards like QR, that you won't regret buying, nor immediately feel the urge to swap out half the components because of cut corners, cost approximately USD $1500 at standard retail prices as of late 2024, give or take a few hundred (depending on the finer details).

Now, the prices are going to go up by at least 20%, and the smaller independent brands are going to go under as only the largest players will have the spare cash to ride out the sudden loss of consumer confidence. The most interesting and original bike products will simply disappear from the market permanently until the next wave of prosperity (which may be entirely concentrated somewhere far away and foreign, so that only the wealthiest of your peers will be able to import and use such goods).

How does that make /n/ feel?
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>>2078696
Weren't you the same retard that got banned from /his/? Are you now here doing your totally organic iranposting?
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>>2077648
Watching someone with a 70 IQ trying to understand the already brain dead chicago school economic mentality is truly something to behold
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>>2077632
some later ones had detachable mags THOUGH
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The wonders of American industry
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>>2036143
I love slow boards.

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I like mixed trains

Post mixed trains
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>>2082733

What's the point of hooking up the caboose to the middle of the train? Or even putting it on at all for that matter since there's already crew accommodation in the form of spare seats in the coaches?

Most pictures I see of mixed trains in their heyday usually dispensed with brake vans and cabooses altogether unless the coaches in question were coupled up directly behind the locomotive, in which case it seems like they were retained for braking power.
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It's a locomotive after all. Normally part of a passenger train.
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>>2082734

Live action remake of Iron Giant with 611 pulling a freight consist when?

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>>2082435
thanks! i like posting older stuff
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>>2079035
a modern diesel freight locomotive pulling a 2 section budd diesel multiple unit and what looks like a caboose or a waycar or something?
did something on the budd train break and they're doing this to tow it to a shop?
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This is not a Deltic.
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>>2084043
you weren't even close, bud
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>>2084071
JORY

My Jojobear :-)

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Anyone here into it? Or even just into collecting models of trains. This shit is so expensive only codgy old boomers partake.
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>>2064738
/n/ used to have a general for model railroading, but seems like it died some time ago.

>Anyone here into it? Or even just into collecting models of trains.
Model railroading used to be my big autistic hobby I grew up with, or more like trains in general. Started getting into it when I was still in elementary school, by the time I got into uni it mostly became a collection hobby due to space limitation. It all died down though during the pandemic after I dropped out of uni. Wasn't happy at all with what I was doing with it (or not doing with actually) and the options I had to make this hobby work were all unsatisfying. About 2-3 years ago I sold off most engines I bought during the last 10 years which is the majority of the about 50 I owned, the rest has been kept in storage. Since we are getting closer to Christmas though, I will try to get rid of everything that is left (like 10 engines and a few hundred rail cars) as it is traditionally the best period to sell modeltrain equipment. Only the few pieces from early childhood will remain.

It's still a nice hobby but you both have to be REALLY into it and should have a clear plan what you want to achieve in order to make it worthwhile as it is very time and money intensive interest.

>This shit is so expensive only codgy old boomers partake.
In general it's already a relatively expensive hobby, that's correct. You can certainly find ways to make it more budget friendly, on the other hand new models developed within the last 15-20 years in particular tend to be a lot more expensive compared to before. Models are more detailed than ever, variety and accessibility has become wider than ever, but general acceptance and interest has declined a lot over the last 30 years. In order to make up for these facts, manufacturers will hike up the prices to recoup the investments they have made.
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>>2064741
>>2067032
I suppose both are correct. Model railroading is an expensive and time consuming hobby. If you start out with a simple layout, fixed or temporary on floor, you will constantly want to expand your stuff in order to keep things interesting. And based on today's state of art, you will want to go digital right away which results in a high start-up cost with even more costs coming for any slow and painful expansion. And with living space also being an issue, especially in cities, it's not much of a surprise how little interest is there to commit.

On the other hand it's also not quite wrong that it's oftentimes a specific group of people that tend to pick it up. From my experience the majority can be categorized into STEM related job pursuers, people who are actually working in the rail transport or public transport sector, business owners and children / older retired people. There are some outliers of course, but they tend to be in the minority. Electronics have developed so much over the last 30 years where pure mechanical anything has become quite rare and therefore less of a focus in society. This also coincides with another issue which I identified through the time I engaged with model railroading until I stopped during the pandemic. The industry was overall WAY too slow to adapt to digitalization 2.0 themselves. With the mass introduction of PCs and gaming consoles during the 80s and 90s, model railroading already had a huge contender for time and attention, but the introduction of the smartphone and tablet only made it significantly worse. The next step along the development of the smartphone / tablets was kind of slept on and only picked up much later.

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>>2084091
From what I know model railroading was fairly widespread here when it became accessible post-war, but people lost more and more interest with the rise of other entertainment mediums. Nowadays you can probably put it on one level with painting warhammer figurines in terms of niche nerdiness, but the connection to railroading in general just isn't the same anymore as it was 50 years ago. Rail travel itself is not percveived as much of an event anymore, it's not as engaging anymore for the common person either and with the feeling of being able to relate to it gone, it's definitely left as a niche for those who specifically look for it. But for the most out there, the emotional connection is simply gone.

Looking across different media outlets that do cover nerd interests to some degree though, like Twitch, Youtube, social media like tiktok, instagram, hell even on 4ch, you will notice that there still is an interest for hobbys related to miniatures. Gunpla kits have become hugely popular with the rise of otaku culture and are not much different than building house kits, you see people happily painting figurines for their warhammer 40k collection which could as well be a segment on your layout, drones are hugely popular as well and peferred over a newly released fully digital diesel loco or steam engine and doing some manual building including materials like plaster, foam, wood or metal has not held up people from cosplaying their favorite characters either. And mind you, the counter examples I have brought up are interests that are enjoyed by guys and girls likewise whereas model railroading is 99% old farts. This observations leads me to believe that the basic skill or interest is still very much prevalent in nerd spaces, the emotional connection to trains however isn't, as sad as it sounds.
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>>2066542
>>2066615
The hobby does indeed attract a lot of autistic, figuratively and literally, people. And the lack of other options back in the day made it an easy choice I suppose. Today there is just too many options for autistis to stimulate their quirks.

>>2067036
This post perfectly summarizes the thought process of a lot of people who play around with the idea of engaging with the hobby. You can start out small, but for continuous extentions having some source of income will help you a lot.

>>2067081
>>2067100
Märklinist here. Although Märklin as an original AC system and other DC systems have the same H0 gauge, the dimensions of their wheelsets tend to be slightly different. In straights DC wheels will roll just fine on Märklin tracks, but switches can become an issue. Märklin AC wheel distance per axle is slightly narrower, between 13.8 and 14.1mm width, and their wheels used to have slightly taller flanges on each wheel while DC wheels can have widths as wide as 14.3mm between both wheels on the axle while also having slightly lower flanges. This is the main reason why rail cars with DC axles tend to derail on Märklin switches when using the curved path. The train wheel will get caught in the center frog piece due to the width and the lower flange will not be to hold it in the tracks through the guard rails.

Solution is either manually adjusting each DC trainwheel (nowadays fairly easy for rail cars, more difficult for locos) and adjusting it for 14.0 - 14.1mm width, or if the general geometry of the wheel itself is not fitting, get replacements with the right dimensions.

>>2067483
Legit a valid argument. Rail simulators are very much flourishing because people want to have the experience, but do not want to commit to it physically.

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>>2071684
There is actually a sizeable amount of narrow gauge modeling, but it really depends on what you are looking for. Switzerland is reasonably represented, so is Austria narrow gauge. Japan /East Asia of course as well. But anything outside might be more of a hit on miss depending on the specific line or rail system you are interested in.

>>2079049
Model railroading is a hobby for the patient ones. If someone rightfully thinks buying the stuff is already a bid commitment, they will be in for a big surprise once they see what comes after.

>>2079429
>>2079438
Exhaust generators have been a thing for decades already, but it's hardly comparable to the real thing. You get some plumes of white smoke coming out of the chimney, and at worst mess up you models and surroundings with the vapor residue if you use the wrong stuff. It's a nice gimmick only.

>>2082629
Based V100 and Fleischmann enjoyer.

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>*combines the aggressive solipsistic entitlement of an exurban helicopter parent SUV karate lessons karen with the sanctimonious humblebrag better-than-you instagram mentality of a childless upper middle class urbanist in your path (literally in your path because it's in your physical path being as expensive and space-hogging as an actual car, while being as slow and annoying and needy and pointless and "look at me" as a dutch bike, in everyone's path) in your path*
>*heh, nothin' personnel kid, as in, look at these kids of mine that I am effectively using as human shields, so give me everything in return for nothing or you're a monster and I will have you cancelled for not buckling immediately and catering to my massive sense of entitlement, kid*
When did cargo bikes go from being a crusty, get-it-done, no-nonsense niche improvised delivery tool for reasonable humans, to being the single most punchable conspicuous consumption fashion accessory in the history of wheels?

Also, cargo bikes hate thread, and yes I took my meds thanks for the reminder though
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For me it's cargo trikes.
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I bought an old Babboe Curve E bike and I hate it. It is very difficult to drive, and kind of unsafe to turn. I almost fell on the side when turning. Uitritconstructie is insane invention. Rant off
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>>2043072
This thing isn't even being sold as a bicycle and being in Germany there are laws governing how you are allowed to move your bicycle through pedestrian zones
This thing will be used by people whou would otherwise get a car
People using this instead of a car is an incontrovertibly better outcome
eBikes themselves have shown that it's not about being a fatty but simply about the biomechanical limits of the average joe and jane
The eBike makes it so that people whou would not nornally be using a two-wheeled mobility for their specific slightly longer travels (which are many) then do
This creates a much better consciousness for what it is like to be about on a BSO and will result in demand for better bike infrastructure and even segregating not just cars away from bicycles burlt also working on safe/sensible degrees of separation between pedestrians and cyclists with less overall space for c*rs
Extremely neurotic forrester-tier outlook on the world from you
Dont worry, you still get to ride your shitass in your clubrides for your shitass rides - on the road
Now fuck off and dont obstruct improvement and change for life-saving infrastructure designs because you got a fart sitting skewed
rest in piss john forrester
Rest in Peace - Cyclists that died due to accidents related to wholly inadequate and missing infrastructure planning specifically for bikes and cars that pay attention to their geometric-spatial and dynamic-reactive properties
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>>2055387
Why did thid nibba not just use two runs of chains?
One is conn'd to the crankset and a little shaft clamped on further up with an idler cog.
The same shaft has another idle cog on the other side (thus traversing the lateral gap) and goes back down to the inside of the fork and onto the igh cog
The chain tension could be adj. by either two extra tensioning devices (urgh...!) or by being able to adjust the height of the idler pullley to get the inner chain run right and then use either a magic ratio on the outside or a single tensioning device
Only way to do it with zero tensioners is by having a third (!) run if chain that then connectes the run fromthe crankset on the outsude and then run from the igh hub onthe inside
But perhaps I lack imagination here
That situation witb two coaxially mounted igh-cog+crankset-chainwheel makes it really tricky
Perhaps lacking the direct drive igh that other anon mentioned they could have kludged a hammerschmidt crankset on there lol
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>>2056646
what a fucking meme GNU/bike (or GNU 'plus' bike as I have recently taken to calling it)

you shouldn't need a TIG though
I think a migger could do it
Perhaps you can even use a stick-shaker
I have an ultra shit frame that I might try using an ultra shit stick welder on
I've never welded and stick is harder to control but the stakes would be lower

Restomodding classic aircraft. Cased or Bringe?
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>>2083980
why is German graphic design so aesthetic
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>>2083980
and much lower specific fuel consumpton
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>>2083896
It's not as easy and straight forward as simply swapping engines.
Case in point: Canadair CL-215 to CL-415
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>>2083896
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Will America ever get a major high speed rail system?

>What will it look it?
>How long may it take?
>How fast will it go?
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>>2083942
>>2083943
Elon Derangement Syndrome makes everyone look at something, see it hasn't happened yet, immediately decide it will happen never, and claim everyone who is capable of looking at something without coming to a snap conclusion "a delusional Muskrat." Learn some impulse control and patience instead of failing the marshmallow test day in and day out.
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>>2083969
Yeah well The Boring Company ended up being vaporware which is too bad because anyone who can bore real tunnels cheaper is going to make a lot of money
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>>2083920
I once lived like two blocks away from where his company proposed a pedestrian tunnel to connect some residential areas to the north with the commercial district to the south, separated by a railroad and a somewhat swampy area near there. Never did happen, even if the city approved of it.
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>>2083482
No.
Big ChooChoo will put mile long freight on it in five minutes.
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>>2083969
>

What would be the impact of just banning cars from the roads every Sunday, and letting people freely ride their bikes, walk down the roads, letting children play in the street?
Emergency vehicles would be exempt obviously.
I am not really anti-car, but surely 6/7 days of cars completely dominating the streets is enough?
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Go for it! Give your car a rest.
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>>2080544
There are no solutions, only tradeoffs.
Though a positive being, seeing less disgusting 600lb bi-pedal whales waddling around in public
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>>2080544
Have to agree with this. Imagine trying to go for a ride, maintain 16mph average for a good workout. But everywhere you go, both sides of the road are clogged full of other cyclists who never rode a bike in 10+ years and go no faster than jogging speed, and people road raging like always.
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>>2080538
honestly with modern electric assist bikes the lines are so blurry that unless you made it truly pedestrian only, people would cheat. and with modern cities, aint nobody wanna walk 25km to the parkade just to walk around some more because its a defacto holiday and all the places to actually hang out are packed
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>>2080538
Makes it impossible for people to return home from weekend trips. So no.

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In general I prefer older road bikes with rim brakes, exposed cables, mechanical shifting, tubes, weight > aero etc. The modern disk brake bikes just don’t make sense to me. I don’t hate them, if I lose my rim brake bikes and can’t purchase another or parts for my bikes, I won’t stop riding, I will buy a modern bike. But I have never ridden a modern bike. I can’t rent it here and I have no friends with one to borrow. So, sometimes I wonder - are they really that bad as the rim brake enthusiasts make them to be? I mean, majority of the bike riders out there are on modern bikes and they do not complain, they seem happy with their bikes, so bad could they be? So if somebody who has ridden a lot both - which is really the better option and is there even a better option or both are just fine?
I do ride XC MTB as well and my MTB is with disk brakes, tubeless, electronic shifting. So, I am familiar with the technology, I like it on my MTB (minus the e-shifting, but that’s how the bike came), but I still think these are not right for the road. But since I haven’t tried, I don’t know. So, am I right it my assumptions or am I missing out and people that are bashing the modern bikes are just contrarians?
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>>2080545
I have had bad experience with disc brakes (unable to get the squeak out of them). I never had bad experience with vee brakes. Caliper brakes just weak though, I'm old enough remember the improvement with the conversion to vee brakes which was significant maybe it contributes to why people like them.
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>>2080545
They are heavier and the fork needs to be stiffer so they don't ride as nice that's partly why everyone has 30+mm tires now
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>feh my rim brakes work just as good as disc bra--
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>>2081765
steel forks are overbuilt by definition. which makes them perfect for disc brakes ironically
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>>2083959
OH NO NO NO NO NO

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Listen, I don’t hate e-bikes. I have one and ride it sometimes. Shit’s fun in a different way than normal cycling
But what in the -fuck- is up with the frame choices normies make? You’ll see grown men on a medium frame with 20inch wheels. That cannot possibly be comfortable. What is the thought process here?
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Typically the type of urban bugmen who buy e-bikes don't have room in thier tiny shared apartments to store a 21 inch frame size bike with 700c wheels and because their neighborhood is so culturally vibrant they can't store it outside
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>>2083892
>could it be a culmnation of market forces and engineering standards combining in a certain way?

>no. it has to be niggers. it's gotta be the niggers fault
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>>2083914
n
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>>2083870
the thought process is "this shit is cheap and will get me around"
and they aren't even wrong, it's an e-bike, they don't have to pedal
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>>2083935
If somebody just needs something to sit on and get place to place, I totally understand that and am not shitting on them.
I live in a nice suburb, though, where such financial troubles would rarely be the case and I still see guys on the weird small ones. Gay regard seems to have a good point on the pit bikes for that one.

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Major problem with EVs:

>gasoline tanker trucks have a legal max limit
>EV semis are heavier
>this means EV semis will have to carry less gasoline
>when everyone switches to EVs, more trips will have to be made to transport the same amount of gasoline

Has anyone thought about this? It will significantly increase gas prices.
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>>2083852
Maybe he was thinking of California. The gap should have closed this year.

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/electric-generation-capacity-and-energy
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>>2083848
>needing an entire gas station's area worth of solar panels despite being located in the sunniest place on earth is practical and sustainable
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>>2083872
What's so impracticable and unsustainable about it?
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>>2083842
At night, gasoline is burned so the light from the flames can energize the solar panels that charge EVs.
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>>2083871
Thanks. I'm going to think about this chart now every single time I get a flex alert (that I always ignore anyways)

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Recently I bought old Litespeed Vortex frame from 2005 with the intend to build it with modern components and ride it, but now I have some second thoughts. I find a lot information online about how these frames (and other old Litespeed/Ti frames) are prone to cracking and the specific model (Vortex) doesn’t make it better because it’s made of Ti-6Al-4V alloy, which seems even harder to work with and prone to cracking the welds.
I bought the frame with the intend to use it and ride it hard, but if it’s dangerous to do so, I would rather let it hang on the wall.
If the frame do crack, how would that happen - can it fail all of a sudden catastrophically and disintegrate on descend or will it crack, but still hold structural integrity for some time allowing me to stop safely? If it’s the latter,
I wouldn’t care that much.
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>>2083850
Not sure but what I have heard is that titanium is difficult to weld (unlike steel) so if someone who knows what the fuck they are doing made the frame it should be really solid but it a sub par person made the frame then the welds will fail
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>>2083854
lets be real, any titanium frame a normal person has access to will have been made by a machine and probably competently
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Pretty sure if the crack is from poor welding it would have already happened on a used frame
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>>2083850
If your ti frame cracks, it's a welder skill issue. I'm a clydesdale and I do bunny hops, and trackstands between sprints on my 19 year old SEVEN Ti road frame regularly and it's strong as ever.
>ftp: 287

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what role do you like?
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>>2081251
Lead dawg here, love farting.
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>>2081251
I'm a team guy.
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>>2081249
>t. Napoleon, circa. Dec 1812
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>>2081250
Who the fuck uses chinooks?


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