i swear to god . if im associated with just one ''my work is my life '' person ill shoot up myself

go to college. If you're okay spending your whole life studying, I would do a PhD since the stipend will keep you alive and you'll meet a lot of people like you. A PhD will help you get a good job at the end, and gives you a lot of years to not worry about getting one.

>>34909616
This has been my go to strat. Even the the small things like a coffe. Also David Big dick Goggins has some inspirational shit. Stay hard or go home.

>>34905814
Go to your local Starbucks or millennial burger restaurant and ask for a fresh plate or cup of perspective.
Should do the trick.

>>34909185
This is the way, it’s called dopamine loading

I was patient and disciplined but it was because I had goals dreams and hope and thought if i work hard i could achieve them and get better. I would literally lock my computer with a timed program I taught myself to make before AI could do that and do some jumping jack/pushups/planks every hour. I had a daily regime and todo list to follow. All thats gone now nothing ever came of it or mattered so im just typing with one hand gooning all days that i dont have my shitty retail job why not the worlds ending soon. Why do i even still go to work really, i never make money i get to keep. Even if i somehow could get a gf and support her girls are worse than ever now, i dont think i can ever love them again i just want to get laid, but without resorting to hooker. I'm 37 and broke its over even without the world end.

>>34902179
what specifically do you want to do and what specifically do you want not to do
I have a stopwatch in front of me right now posting on this imageboard, the conscientiousness of the time i am wasting the awareness alone gives more control, like how i was going to do some french but got distracted and ended up here now im going to go back to it

You are depressed, the feeling you’re describing is exactly depression. Try to find small daily activities that satisfy you.

>>34911675
Psychedelics?

>>34911675
Graduate and look for a job anon, DON'T become a NEET longer than one year at a time. Go on a trip and don't do drugs. Try to make friends and invite them, even if you have to spend a lot in keeping them.

>>34912844
>Mentioning it makes it clear that you are insecure about it
Well I'm not delusional enough to not be insecure about it, so I think its better to confront it directly.

>>34913030
Well, don't say I didn't warn you.

Also, it's well documented that women who have sex with women have more enjoyable sex, including better and much more frequent orgasms, than women who have sex with men. How big is the average lesbian's penis? And if you are so breathtakingly retarded that you're about to respond mentioning strap-ons, then don't.

>>34913071
>Well, don't say I didn't warn you.
Well I know generally its a bad idea, but I think the upside is that it gives girls a chance to reject you upfront rather than investing to the point of feeling like they have to tolerate it.

>>34912700
I think we must tell them when they want to engage in sex (if was woman i would like to hear that beforehand) , obviously we need to perform better than they do and all that but i find it exciting

>>34912700
That chick didn't say any of what's in the caption

>>34913998
I started on the lowest possible dosage found in the pharmacies here, 30mg pills. The side effects were very unusual and unique to me so keep in mind it won't be the case for 99,9% of people, but after the medication digested I got a brief high for ~30 or so minutes, then extreme sleepyness to the point I was yawning uncontrollably, I laid down to try and sleep but at the same time the meds would not let me sleep at all, so in the end the sensation was like I had worked hard labour and exhausted myself the whole day but could not fall asleep if my life depended on it. It was the same thing with ritalin except that with vyvanse I also got an allergic reaction in the end that made my face red, lol.

>>34914008
Doesnt sound like vyvanse at all except for it making you unable to sleep. You dont really get a high either.
Are you sure you have ADHD?

>>34913991
im 19 i would say im doing even worse than you are and im not even diagnosed with anything, at least you still have some friends man idk

> feel like I threw away basically all of my teenage years
You will barely remember them by the time you hit thirty. Nothing you did differently in high school will matter by then.
>It's like I'm stuck in a loop where I know I need help, but actually doing anything feels impossible.
Yeah, mental health shit sucks like that. Unfortunately, there's only one way to get the treatment you need. Prioritize this before any other major life changes.
>18 with no college, no job
This is not an outlier by any means. You are not 40 with no degree and no job, you are 18, probably just survived hell on earth, and need breathing room and mental clarity and health before you can return to normal life.
Been exactly where you are Anon. AMA.

>>34913991
>when I feel like I already wasted the part where I was supposed to build it.
they neurotically divide the ages into 20s, and 30s etc
or early and mid and late 20s
its better to look at it is four 25 year seasons starting with spring
you have until the average age in your country or area which is about 40 or 36
>Cause things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born - scatman john

>>34913341
>I think i'll try tell my parents when im ready
I think you'll find they'll be much more concerned for your welfare than they will be angry.

Maybe im just hormonal. I am a teenager afterall

>>34913357
*hug*
I had a day like this today too. Been at work shitposting and hiding all day. Feel better SkittyOP

>>34913057
I always feel extremely suicidal at the moment. But I can't be bothered to kill myself unfortunately.
Just get used to how things are, because its only going to get a whole lot worse.

>>34913057
What's troubling you, anon?

CBT was gay and EMDR just pissed me off
DBT worked pretty well

>>34914153
What exactly did you do in this therapy?

>>34914170
It's talk therapy for sure but it seems like this therapist has a much larger focus on building skills and handling facts and situations in the moment rather than thoughts that happen anywhere anytime of any severity. Lots of pulling me back out of my own head, realizing the truth of what's happening, and dealing with the truth.

>>34914182
> building skills and handling facts and situations in the moment
And what skills did you have to build? How and what did you learn about handling facts and situations? Sorry for questioning that much, but Google doesn't give that much on this threapy about its exact actions beside some generic bullshit like "just notice your emotions and feefees here and now", "just breathe regularly", "just do exact opposite" or "just do sports".

>>34914213
I honestly don't understand it deeply either and I never read the DBT Skills Handbook my therapist sent me but it's a lot of changing worries from what you're thinking about (infinitely terrible) to what's in front of you (usually fixable in some capacity), using and coming up with "interrupts" when mental health is overtaking normal thought, appreciating what is good and improving vs comparing to what should be, all that jazz.

>>34914123
All you have to do is move to a country where women don't have any rights or power. You'll enjoy it there.

>>34914123
either way if you have an actual daily hatred of women to where you need to 'cope' you're a ruminatory fag and probably need an ADD/OCD med in combination with life changes and changing thought patterns
there's more to life than thinking about people

>>34914150
I can't. I enjoy first world luxuries.

>>34914206
Too bad adding socialist policies to a country in the name of justice turns it into a shithole

>>34914211
What cunt are you talking specifically?

>>34913260
Children are the real payout. The pussy is just a means of getting it. No matter what you do in your life, if you dont leave children to inherit it your existence was meaningless. You may as well not have existed at all.

>>34913260
That's one side to it. Some things don't get women but you still do them for enjoyment.

>>34913296
No, there is plenty of things to do. If you need to have sex you can buy a doll, they make it easier to work and train because they are always there

>>34913430
This was good advice till you started speaking schizo religious bs

Sure it is. If you're a fucking cumbrained idiot.

>surpass me greatly
There's no objective standard to meet to have a social life, this is just comparing yourself to others meaninglessly.
>because people might crucify me for my opinions
You can have opinions and bring them up in ways that don't alienate people. If they're too extreme to bring up period, maybe work on it.
>I've only finally just learned how to be capable of being functional in social settings after a decade of isolation but it is very hard.
>a decade
Yeah, you've got your work cut out for you. But it's okay, you're not the first and won't be the last.

>>34909784
Idk maybe have another drink

>>34910423
Lol if real go into more detail

only coffee helps for motivation, planning to experiment with supplements like taurine or l-theanine or 5htp and vit d, and i personally use a shame method when i go to online places where smart people say smart things and i look up to them shaming myself i'm stupid doing nothing with my life and i get this motivation to do something like read a book

>>34909913
>It sounds retarded and gay to say something like join a social club and on Saturday morning, wake up at 8 and go hike with 10 other people but you just gotta do it.

This is quite literally the worst possible advice you could give someone. Joining a social club to be surrounded by normies is just going to make things worse.

>>34910613
Yes and no. By itself exercise does make you feel better. And especially if your physical unfitness is causing low mood by chemical reasons, the chemical effects of exercise not only abolish but invert those causes and have very dramatic effects. And being fit, strong, and capable simply feels good, psychologically.
But also no, in the sense that it will not solve issues that cause depression and apathy in many cases, it will simply give you a better capability to address those issues and will help break the biochemical rut that one gets stuck in. But if you do not address the issues or remove yourself from their influence, they will continue to affect you. A problem is a problem until you face it head on.
The question for you becomes "why am I negative/anxious/demotivated/etc?" There can be multiple reasons, or maybe there's a primary, straightforward one, e.g. ADHD for many people. There is a danger, though, in getting lost in pursuing "root causes" that are actually just a form of avoiding confronting your life. Basically, it's not always as simple as "just do it", but just doing it has to happen at some point.

Go to the gym and make yourself look more physically intimidating. Push back against his bullshit. He's just trying to assert dominance. So don't let him and have the ability to back up whatever you put in front of him.

... amd yet you, an adult, are living in his house, and eating his food. Who keeps the lights on at your house? Who is paying your expenses at University?
You sound ungrateful. Maybe he is as bad as you say. As you are not his child, and not a child, he can absolutely tell you to get out of his house, can't he? What is your mother saying about this? She must see something in him, right?

>>34912207
To be fair he shacked up with a single mom so he deserves no respect.

>>34911595
Well, it's good that your mother is on your side. In many of these situations it seems that the mother sides with her new husband over her original child.
You are presumably late teens or early twenties. Your capacity to deal with emotions is still developing, but you are actually a lot more capable now than you were when you were younger. As a child it was probably difficult to deal with this man who is close with your mother and maybe a father to half siblings? The unnaturality of this family arrangement confused your emotions, because he was in the role of father but was not your father nor did he try to be nor did you want him to be. But now, if you try, you may be able to reduce your emotional attachment to him. Just practice it when you're around him. Don't suppress, just let go of whatever feelings he elicits within you. Breathe, let them pass through you. Eventually, you can learn to become indifferent to him. It will be more difficult if he is intentionally provoking you, but, still, ultimately the solution to this problem is to stop caring what he does or thinks.
The practical complication to this is if he starts to threaten you materially, as in trying to kick you out or force you to take certain actions. There are three solutions to that. The first is to simply gain your own means of material support and find your own place to live. This is difficult but simple. The second is to simply ignore him, you are an adult. But that can escalate the situation especially if he is spiteful. The third is to appeal to your mother, but that can introduce a lot of complications if it's already come to the point where he is threatening you.

>>34911595
Catfish him to send you sexually suggestive things then use an anonymous account to send them to your mom.

Problem solved. Easy peasy

>>34907503
Sorry I had to take a break and go pick up some smoke.
You killed yourself or gotten laid yet? Or you still got this thread open on auto-update so you can fill out captchas for daddy?

>>34907521

>>34908537
Another beautiful day. Knocked out some yardwork. It would make my day to know you and the other anon made a suicide attempt. How'd that go?

>>34909673
I'll never suicide. Imagine being stuck here, past the point of suicide, nothing left in this world for you, knowing the future is only worse, but you can't leave. That's me. bump

>>34914064
Womp womp.

>>34904385
>How do I help them?
Change the world.
They see the world as shit because it is shit.
Either fix it or sell them on some delusion.

>>34911059
How am I agreeing with you if my point is almost the exact opposite of yours? Again, you’re falling for women shit. Taking any sort of “ick” seriously is your own fault for actually listening to a woman (again lol).

I’m not saying icks don’t exist, I’m just saying that 99% of the icks you’ve heard are just women saying dumb shit when a camera is shoved on their face or they are behind a keyboard. It’s the same thing I said before. It’s social programming and women are reinforcing that because it’s in their DNA to just parrot what the majority are saying. Attention is crack to them, so you actually acknowledging their ick is feeding into their frame. Do you think the ick matters for the degenerate DJ or the random dude that got a girl at a party? Or even the normal dude that got a girlfriend? The ick is a collective test to see if men roll over and take it.

Don’t take it from me, try it yourself. Whether you want a girl or you just want to be chilling on your own, stop caring what women think (except your mom and grandma, if you got a good relationship with them). Stop caring AT ALL. Do not take them seriously. Not in an overt, asshole way but genuinely in every fiber of your being just realize they have no power over you. They’ll love you for it and any ick that might’ve existed will be replaced with “why isn’t this guy bending over backwards for me?”

>>34905943
current gf is sort of a retard too, only gf who was ever competent was one ex but she was a bpd cunt. Current gf though currently is unemployed, cannot hold down a job without getting fired, gets welfare and is looking for a job, does get interviews to be fair but is incapable of keeping her apartment clean. She is also for some reason incapable of eating cleanly and exercising and spends most of her time ''resting'' which is beginning to irritate me. I dont live with her but her frivolous spending on fast food, door dash, refusal to cook or clean her own apartment with very limited funds (because she cannot fathom saving enough for an emergency fund) is unironically giving me the ''ick''. I do not know how they live like this, I am the complete polar opposite of all of this.

>>34906155
Is somebody going to tell him?

>>34911075
oh but "incel", you CAN fuck the hot ones, you just have to pay for them. you're not an incel in the slightest btw. get outta here you sexhaver go watch sports or get drunk and wrestle your bros to prove whos stronger or something

>>34915303
Moid, why
>>34915302
I strongly disagree but maybe I'm just deranged
I've had fun with friends in the past but these days it's too much hassle

>>34915280
ngl i wish there was some lowkey thing to do that other friendless people could recognize, and it would also serve as a "i actively want to make friends badge". if only life could be so simple. and not to say making isn't hard for men but women always seem to have this bubbly "retail worker" sort of persona where they're strangely nice and bubbly, but also come across as keeping a sort of "professional" big personal distance. can be hard to tell if it's someone who's just being nice or someone who genuinely likes you/thinks you're interesting.

Femanons who are straight, what does it mean when a guy is "hot"? Men are gross to me so I have no idea how someone would find the male physique "hot".

>>34915290
i am not racist, i use chink in good faith. nothing personal.

My fridge has probably been around since the 90s and I can't afford a new one. If that thing breaks it's game over. This thought has been bugging me.