should i cut ties with my mother for circumcising me?
>>34519261Yeah, but that would mean admitting to herself that she inflicted horrible pain to her baby. Unless shes a full blown psycho, thats going to be a very bad time for her. Sure, it would be more gracious to acknowledge what she did, but I can understand why she would prefer denial. >>34519708Worst in the world actually. Africans and such may be poor, but not living in a brainwashed corporate worship parrallel world.
>>34519026One good cut deserves another
YES, do it. I am uncircumcised and I thank the heavens for it. Look in to regrowth measures and cut off your abusive mother, good luck OP
>>34519026>should I cut tiesSounds like your mom already did
I've come to accept that I am circumcised and my parents told me that the doctors said that was the thing they should do for me when I was born. I was angry when I was in high school but after convincing them on how terrible the practice is, and hearing how they regret doing it to me, any anger I have is for the society that justifies it while clutching their pearls at when girls have their genitals cut
I hate my best friend for having much bigger boobs than me. She's a J-cup and I'm only an G-cup. How do I get over my jealousy?
Larp
Embrace the fact you will age more gracefully than her. She'll be saggy walmart tiddies in her forties, walking into personal injury lawyers' offices for worker's comp claims against herself because her back's all fucked.
>>34529887Thank you anon... *hug*
>>34529905yeah you're welcome
>>34529665fake and gay
I think its /int/ but that place has been kinda lame lately. i miss /qa/ and having retarded basedjak duels
>>34529152>I miss /qa/ and having retarded basedjak duelssJust go on sharty if you liked basedjaks. Honestly there are not any really any entertaining boards anymore. Some are informative or some have ok discussion but funny moments are purely incidental.
>>34529152>/int/>/qa/Go back to /bant/
A board you aren't supposed to talk about.
/k/ and shit up one of the generals. You will get twenty (you)s from autistic manchildren going $10k into debt for gun related stuff unless you hit up a dead one like /nvg/.
If I go teaching in Japan, am I guaranteed lots of sex with hot Japanese girls?
>>34526455>How do you know?Because I'm not an ignorant fool, I guess. See, for example' https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/why-so-many-marriages-in-japan-are-sexless-%E2%80%93-and-what-you-can-do-about-it
>>34518794If you're sociable enough that you could get dates in your home country then you probably could woo a girl in Japan.But if not, don't expect Japanese girls to be any easier than the girls back home.
>>34521801Holy shit I'm booking a flight to Japan right now
>>34518794No, davido-kun
>>34526455I watch Paolo fromTOKYO and watch a Japaneses salaryman work fifteen hours a day selling sim cards and going to meetings for hours that could literally be an email.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmjXp_AYg0This man literally does not have time to get pussy.
im so sick and tired of working for and with black migrant and jewish people and dealing with burgerland black and jewish clientele. i left my job because i was tired of their bullshit even after i sent a list of all the shit the black migrants were doing to the jewish supervisor who didnt care. dont even get me started on the clientele. i have enough neetbux to last me a year. where can i go as a 28 white passing hapa male with a bachelors degree on the east coast of burgerland that i dont ever have to deal with these people ever again? no my degree isnt useful, i should have known something was wrong when i was one of a handful of dudes in a sea of mid/uggo chicks. i think i saw maybe 4 other white dudes in my college classes before scamdemic cut my uni experience short. those classrooms looked like a dei wetdream honestly. some of my asian bros have told me that indians are also a nightmare to work for/with. who is cool to work with?
>>34520288West Virginia is the cheapest east coast state. Move there. You talk like a faggy dumb looser zoomer. As a millennial white guy I would fucking not hire you for anything.
>>34527246He's definitely the type to go to HR for any little thing or just generally be a nuisance. If the staff was all white he'd be bitching about how they all (rightfully) exclude him or some shit.
>>34527246>>34527255you're definately the type to let your bullies walk all over you. and newsflash, every last white worker there had a problem with them we were all in unison on that. id rather be a whiny zoomer than spineless millenials like you two.
>>34520589>ad white trash friends who unfortunately went down the MAGA train.Did you think that maybe it was a response to Jews destroying their homeland via third wolrd golems
>>34527240I was not expecting you to say criminal justice. Didn't realise that's a pozzed field. I'm not sure if becoming a cop is a good idea if you're tired of dealing with subhumans. But on the other hand at least you'd be in the public sector. Unfortunately I'm at a loss for what to suggest. If you want to stay in the horrible country that is America then your options are quite limited. Perhaps you could find a mind-numbingly boring job where you sit in a booth all day, and in the meantime enroll in a chemistry course. These jobs have no future and pay almost nothing, but you should be able to study and do class assignments while "at work".
Is it possible to make money by publishing a fantasy book without any prior experience? How can I share it with people in an anonymous way by using a pen name? Is it worth it using Amazon publishing services?
>>34526078I'm definitely not buying this. Give me solid advice, please.
self bump
>>34526067An unknown beginning writer is VERY unlikely to get a commercial publisher, so 90% of beginners either self-publish or "publish" online. Your work is then available to be seen, and you might even sell a few copies, but you are VERY unlikely to make much money. I am not being pointlessly discouraging. Writing is simply not a reliably moneymaking profession. EVERY professional writer not named King or Rowling has a day job
>>34526067i mean, just write a really good book and publishers will want to print it and market it for you.
>>34526067First you have to build a following by publishing for free on RoyalRoad/QuestionableQuesting/ArchiveOfOurOwn. Then you parlay that into subscriptions on Patreon/SubscribeStar and sales on Amazon.(Don't forget that ArchiveOfOurOwn bans all for-profit activity, so you can't link to Patreon/SubscribeStar/Amazon there.)
First woman to ever show any interest in me, how do i stop this?>Be me>Well spoken and somewhat charismatic>Also never leave house, neurotic, destroyed my career, nuked social life, ugly as sin>Reach 28 years old>Mother arranges for me to meet her friend's daughter>I really don't want to do this, forced into it>Meet the girl, 22, she's cute and sweet and very autistic>She likes me>Why the fuck does she like me?>I'm good at talking but my entire life is a fucking mess>Start trying to sabotage the relationship>Tell her i'm not religious (she is religious, both our families are religious)>She calmly asks me to explainComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>34529648>How do I not fuck this up?Well looks like you tried and failed, so, congrats on your new girlfriend anon! Invite us to the wedding!
>>34529648>You fuckers told me women like this don't exist. What the fuck am i supposed to do? I have literally no redeeming qualities, not even money. Is she trying to steal my kidney? Is she fucking stupid? Please tell me how to not fuck this up.sorry anon, you gotta trust your own judgment & navigate it yourselfit sounds like you grasp how important she is to you, so try and trust your own judgmentletting 4chan/r/relationshipadvice be an interloper between you and this girl will just create another layer of hell in your life, please don't do itworst case scenario it goes wrong, your judgment improves, you can move onto something elsei suggest you not let yur mother force you into things at your age, alsotry not to get preyed on by abusive girls, you sound somewhat vulnerablethis girl doesn't soundl ike that typejust trust your judgment lke i said though
cute image btwtry not to overthinkyou already traumadumped & it went fine, so try and trust her for now & don't overthink, until/unless it goes wrong in the futurethere's nothing wrong with telling her you're nervous either
>>34529648Why can't this happen to me?
>>34529774Because it's not real
Did getting jacked help you slay with online dating apps?
>>34528082Reminder this fat retard working under a scissor jack and getting crushed by his gay prius had a girlfriend. I think the takeaway is dating is 95% charisma and there is definitely no god.
>>34528108because they're not communal, fun practices that prove that you have social life and aren't a serial killer. is that so hard to figure out?
>>34527992No but merely being lean with a nice face did
>>34527995>that women finding you "scary"Scary to others , not themselves. This applies only if they know you and know you will not do them harm.Some random guy on tinder giving psycho killer vibes is just an instinctive left swipe. >But it also shows him having a sense of humorYeah, the ones that interprete the image a s tongue-in-cheek joke will probably like him. Its a not abad idea as he filters for girls who at least match his sense of humour that way.>>34528049>unironically posting a Peter Thiel psyopconsider killing yourself
>No success for me yet but at the gym yesterday I saw a white bitch with the ghetto slut red Ronald McDonald dyejob that lots of coalburners and ghetto blacks get, she was with some black brownish dude on the stairmaster I chanted "Mudshark alert! Mudshark alert! Mudshark alert!..." while entering the locker room. A boomer gave me a look like he was hearing something crazy. It was really autistic of me but it felt like I was really alive in that moment.
What sort of jobs are most likely to have people that are wise and kind and will make me a happier person? My current job is hell because of the boss and it's slowly starting to change me in a negative way so it's about time for me to distance myself from it
How can I do math? How can I visualize/see it better in my head and even on paper? I've struggled with math my whole life and I think the problem is I don't grasp the abstraction. I struggle with basic arithmetic and maybe even counting/assigning numerical values to things. I have things like the multiplication table memorized because I'm supposed to but I'm not assigning the numerical values to the numbers. That feels like a different part of my brain compared to the rote memorization and it feels impossible to access. Something that made multiplication easier to grasp for me was when I realized it meant it was the first number duplicated as many times as the second number. The word duplicate made me see it how everyone sees it I think, because I couldn't understand the phrase "multiplied by." I wish someone could explain all of math to me this way.I try to practice it a lot too, I stop to do math whenever I see it but it doesn't make me any better. When I see something like 18-9 I can't do it in my head and I have to take out a pencil and paper to do it. When I do math I do it like how I was taught to do it in school so that's why I need to stack them on top of each other and draw the line underneath and carry the one etc. I don't understand how people who are good at math can see 18-9 and just know what the answer is immediately. I don't think they have it memorized but they are doing something in their head that I'm not. Pic related is me unironically. When this happens the thing I have to do is draw 18 circles and then cross 9 then count the remaining circles.
>>34525148>Pic related is me unironically. When this happens the thing I have to do is draw 18 circles and then cross 9 then count the remaining circles.well first of all, you could try doing this same method faster, by drawing tally marks or something instead of circlesi imagine drawing circles takes a longer time than drawing some other shapes, so this could help>>34525148>I don't understand how people who are good at math can see 18-9 and just know what the answer is immediately. I don't think they have it memorized but they are doing something in their head that I'm not.you start to develop reflexes almost, which work very wellthis is what most people do in your headyou mentioned how multiplication became easier to grasp once you realized it was duplication of the first numberpeople who are good at math just collected a bunch more realizations like that, basically, and turn them into reflexessee if you can realize more things about the shapes/form of arithmetic, it might get easier to do things in your head :D
>>34525148>I don't think they have it memorized but they are doing something in their head that I'm not.They probably do have it memorised. 18 is two times nine. Remove one nine and you have one nine left.
>>34525148Ngl if you need a visual aid, try using graphs to help yourself. Number lines are great tools to visualize the problem.What types of math are you working with? You listed basic operations like multiplication and subtraction, so I'm guessing you're talking about like, Pre-Algebra or something.If you can, try to pick up a textbook from a thrift store. Theyre usually like $3 for an entire textbook that you'd get in school (which is insane imo). Textbooks very frequently contain visual examples to better explain concepts.counting on fingers is also helpful. I do it all the time.
>>34525148You're just stupid. There's nothing you can do. Use a calculator.
>>34525148Easy numbers I mostly just know from memory. For example, with 18 − 9, I instantly know the answer is 9 because I already know that 9 + 9 = 18But with harder numbers, especially double or triple digits, I use a simple method: I figure out how much is left to reach the bigger number.For example, in 18 − 9, I start at 9 and ask myself: ‘How much do I need to add to get to 18?’ The answer is 9, so 18 − 9 = 9.It’s basically thinking about subtraction as finding the missing amount needed to complete the numberBut to be honest anon, math is practice and practice makes perfect
I grew up in a family where wait until marriage is practiced, and I fully intended to wait until marriage, with the idea that I would be waiting for a virgin. I am dating my coworker, who is not a virgin, and she is okay with waiting until marriage, but I feel like there is no point in waiting for a non-virgin. Culturally, you would wait out of respect for the girl, to show her that you actually love her and don't just value sex from her, but for a non-virgin, it just seems kind of pathetic. You're waiting for what someone else got without any commitment, offering far more for the same experience. Am I wrong to view it this way? And do I break against my upbringing and just have sex with her now? I would feel kind of guilty to, but I would feel kind of beta not to.
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>>34526507OP here. Appreciate your reply. I think your mom's situation is a good example of why women should not wait until their 30s to find a marriage partners --- guys who would make good husbands are typically married by then, so your options are rather limited. Same concept applies vice versa but the difference is that guys can date younger to find less baggage in a woman while women typically date older, and the options become more limited the older you go.
>>34523278All humans are "sexually compatible" you fucking retard that is a made up term by Jews to encourage people to be degenerate and promiscuous. Being values-compatible is infinitely more important. If you love each other truly and want to be married you'll figure out how to please each other in the bedroom. It's not that hard.
>>34529547Virgin cope
>>34522913>I am dating my coworker, who is not a virgin, and she is okay with waiting until marriage, but I feel like there is no point in waiting for a non-virgin>You're waiting for what someone else got without any commitment, offering far more for the same experience.This is the mental brain rot that happens when just adopt values from your upbringing without even bothering to ask yourself why. You don't even understand what the purpose of waiting until marriage is.
I fucked up tonight boyoooos. I was about to have sex nd she brought me to her dorm. We did lots of hot foreplay but I was too anxious and desensitized to get hard. I ended up leaving without having sex. The same thing happened to me a few years ago when I lost my virginity, and I have not recovered since then. Idek how to fix this. I’m trying noporn and nofap. I have a sex drive but when it’s time to do the deed, I just can’t. When I start getting an erection, my foreskin opens up a bit and i feel discomfort/pain. That contributes to it too. I’m thinking about avoiding pursuing women...I kind of don’t want to though because I still have a sex drive. All those years of adolescent inceldom-induced porn/fapping has ruined me. I just keep worrying that this will repeat the next time because this usually happens when I get physical with a girl. This girl still wants me to go to her dorm again. Can I fix this?
>>34526153Circumcision is never medically justified. I had my phimosis fixed with plastic surgery. Kill yourself you fucking barbarian. I bet you believe magic is real. People in vulnerable states of mind asking for advice are not an invitation for you to solicit your bronze age blood rituals. You're literally only doing this to get brownie points with your fake god. Disgusting.
>>34525787I dont really want a gf.
>>34524428Are you able to retract your foreskin to fully expose the glan, the pink part? I never even knew that it is supposed to be easily pulled back until I was 16 or so. I then read about foreskin stretches and using oil to try to expose more of the glan bit by bit. It hurt like hell at first, kind of like when your skin under a fingernail when you clip too much, but now I just have a normal penis without any sensitivity
>>34527067>>34526153Here is the thing: I am not sure whether the problem is my foreskin or my sensitive glans.
>>34529328Go see a doctor
I’m currently in therapy for OCD, have been seeing my particular therapist for about a year.One of my major anxieties is related to my kinks/fetishes (transformation, agp, and age progression/regression specifically). I guess I just find the idea of my body and mind being forcibly altered attractive. I’ve had them since I was exposed to pornography very young and really wish I didn’t have them. Not only do I feel disgusting when I engage in these self-insert fantasies, I fear the consequences if anyone were to ever discover that side of me, so I go to great lengths to hide it from everyone else. My OCD has used these feelings to convince me of all sorts of terrible things about myself.Recently, my brain has latched onto the idea that I’m going to get into legal trouble for a few age progression comics I purchased years back in a moment of weakness (tl;dr young characters being turned into milfs or whatever. Extremely autistic, I know). I deleted them very shortly afterward and no longer have access. I don’t have anything saved on any of my devices for that matter.This fear has sent me down a multi-day anxiety spiral researching US case law on obscenity with the fear that someone is going to hunt me down and throw the book at me. It has taken over my psyche for the better part of a week.I have been too ashamed to tell my therapist about any of this, and am afraid to explain the full extent of my sexual anxiety for fear of getting in trouble or being judged.I don’t know what to do.
>>34528737There's two topics here: why do you find this inappropriate relationship kink interesting is its own topic. You can choose to talk about this if you want. I just don't know how relevant it is if you don't have a history of childhood trauma or abuse Or you can focus on the anxiety about it. Spending this much time and energy researching legality sounds exhausting. It's clearly causing you emotional turmoil. I'd mention that you have been having trouble, explain the anxiety spiraling, and be honest with all your answers if she asks for clarification.
>>34528755I can't find anything about my state, which is the alarming part for me. I do live in a red state though which When I have OCD spirals like this I'm looking for certainty that something bad won't happen to me, and I always find some way to convince myself that the .0000001% chance of something happening will happen to me. >>34528759I don't think it has anything to do with abuse, I had a pretty good childhood. I think a lot of this really does just come back to early exposure to this kind of content (I was like 11 when I stumbled upon it on my family computer). The porn I've used that involves those inappropriate relationships is the overwhelming minority, so I don't believe that dynamic is what appeals to me.My anxiety really likes to convince me that something horrible will befall me. One summer I was anxious about dying to the point of looking up every possible way I could be killed or involved in a horrible accident, and the chances of such a thing happening. When I was young I avoided knives because I was afraid I'd ill my family with one and get locked away forever.I think this instance is similar in conjuring up scenarios where my shame will catch up with me and result in life ruination.
Small update: I texted my therapist about it. He called me and we chatted for about 15 mins while I explained my history with the issue.I didn’t tell him about the comics specifically, but I did tell him about my research spiral. I’ll go into more detail with him when we have our next session.He was very supportive and mostly just told me he’s proud of me for bringing it up with him. Said I have nothing to be ashamed of and that fantasy/thoughts don’t make me a bad person. Told me to stay away from drugs/alcohol for now and journal my feelings as best I can so we can review next week.I feel a little bit better, but my brain still has little portions of “well if you told him about _____ things would be different and he’d think you’re a freak.” I’m too good at finding loopholes in my own mental state.
Firstly, based taste for posting Allenby for G GundamSecondly, I don't see the point in being ashamed of fetishes, I am into way worse and weirder shit, and I feel no shame about it, because I know it's not hurting anybody and it's just fictional fantasy nonsense in my own head.Thirdly, while obviously none of us know for sure what will happen and people have been charged for random shit like Simpsons porn, the reality is that thousands of people post highly explicit loli and shota porn here on 4chan every day and they never face legal trouble over it, meanwhile you're freaking out about what sounds like not-particularly extreme comic that you downloaded once years ago and have never touched since. I don't think you have much to worry about. You said that you've been researching obscenity law, and if so then you probably know that the Miller test is insanely broad and that (at least in the US) nothing about Loli/Shota is inherently more obscene/illegal then any other random normie porn and any sufficiently determined prosecutor can charge people for obscenity over any sort of sexual material. Maybe that isn't very reassuring, but the point is that there's tons of things people COULD get charged for obscenity for, but don't. As >>34528755 says, most of the time people get charged for loli/shota, it's because they had real CSAM and the prosecutors are trying to stack extra charges on top.>>34529148Personally, I would not bring up the comic you mentioned. It may be harmless to do so, but mandatory reporting is a thing if a healthcare professional thinks you are a risk around kids. You aren't, but you never know what other people may think, so I wouldn't risk it.You already told him whatever you told him tho so there's no harm in continuing to speak about whatever you already said. As I said, tho, I would just try to keep in mind that there's nothing to be ashamed of about it and accept the kink.
>>34529355I mentioned that my kink involves age progression/regression self insert and he didn’t seem to mind, so I’m not as afraid of opening up to him as I was before. He seemed very sex positive and mentioned other patients he had with somewhat similar experiences.He reassured me that he doesn’t think I’m a danger to anyone (we’ve had conversations about how I’m too considerate in his opinion). I’ll definitely think about what I divulge more on though.I think my current strategy is to develop a healthier relationship with my fetishes, avoid compulsory masturbatation, and keep things above board with the material I engage with (even if I’m unlikely to face anything bad).I figure what’s done is done and that if this is bringing me anxiety, the best thing I can do is just not repeat the same thing again. It’s just a fetish, doesn’t have to control what I do.
I recently went to a political conference in Hungary. We discussed a bunch of things like the future of Hungary, the election, national industrial policy, trade, etc... it was extremely interesting. I went there for the conference and meeting really interesting people, I met Eva Vlaardingerbroek too which was cool.When I get back to my home country, my Aunt asked me to tell her about the trip. I describe the stuff above and she just goes "what about the FOOOOOOD?". I was like "oh, Hungary is a net exporter of food, they produce enough to feed themselves and export extra, obviously they import the stuff they don't produce themselves, but...".>"NO ANON, I mean what did you eat there? How was the cuisine???"I just go >"uhhh, I actually only ate McDonalds and some meatsticks from the convenience store, I had a chicken at one point but it was a premade one from the store"She's like "did you see any museums??? Did you go explore any of the buildings? Did you go to any restaurants??? You gotta tell me about the food"I told her I stayed inside during my free time and was mainly on the internet in my hotel.Normies don't care about anything except food and dumb bullshit like that. I don't know how to relate.
>>34529436>boomer aunt misunderstands trip and thinks it was a normal vacation, asks questions accordinglyAnd you're having a crisis over it?
i got the numbers from my first test screening and am worried about results and like 2nd opinions. For reference, I am a 23 dude. Here are the results (along with the "normal range" provided by the site displaying them in parentheses):>albumin: 4.6 g/dL (3.8-5.0)>sex hormone binding globulin: 22 nmol/L (12-91)>testosterone, total: 470.9 ng/dL (249.0-836)>free test (calculated): 115.6 pg/mL (35.0-130.0, note the units are different to the above and below)>bio available test (calculated): 289 ng/dL (79.0-335.0) i am most concerned about the total testosterone. for a <25 year old, it appears i am really low in total test compared to mean values being closer to 700 ng/dL (got this value from eyeballing results of a basic search). i have a lot of the usual faggot symptoms of being depressed, low energy, and also I have not even gotten noobie gains from exercise (little to no hypertrophy and plateauing really early in increasing the weight). I don't have erectile dysfunction but I do have pretty severe premature ejaculation (this has always been the case ever since i started wanking when i was like 10). The exercise frequency has been spotty due to work load these past few months, but between about the spring 2024 to fall 2025 I was pretty consistently doing at least 3x week. I am going to resume it nonetheless, and have also altered to 4x week since its summer break right now. Regardless, during that consistent period i progressed really slowly.are these test values really bad? if they are, what suggestions do you guys have for possible mitigation? The main concern is i'm really scared of dying alone, and i already look pretty bad in terms of my immutable traits (mutt, manlet, shoulder:waist ratio, wrists and hands, etc. I'm built like a twink but have way too much body hair and too fat for my height to ever pull off an otter mode look). These results seem to indicate that there is something really wrong with my endocrine system
>>34529196thank you for the kind words. I am indeed one of the statistics in america regarding being fat, and it's always made me feel terrible, though it was only until my late teens that I finally told myself I need to actually do something rather than wallow and hope i somehow magically cease affecting earth's own gravitational field. The goal is to decrease to ideally (and still being realistic) 140-145lbs. For my manlet frame this will get me into a BMI of ~24.I totally agree with the screentime rendering me and everyone else nuts and warping all reasonable expectations. I'm kinda an outlier for zoomers in the spaces I follow (always been more into millennial stuff). I definitely rot in front of a screen but I guess I'd say its like giving myself 2nd degree burns rather than 3rd degree (so still bad but could be worse?). I'm just as tainted as all the others, though perhaps more self aware of how bad it is. Regarding the "self improvement" content I also agree with you in terms of how the stuff presented is not feasible if you can't make a living out of doing it. I've at least kept a level head regarding what are reasonable expectations for a pleb like me. I didn't think about this when choosing the picture, but, while I recognize they were body builders so not in anyway normal or usual, the gachi look is something I've always tried to emulate in the sense of they look good but do not have the 0% body fat appearance that is often touted as a peak physiqueI also recognize that regardless of whatever treatments I may get, I have to put in effort to make things work. I made the analogy earlier, but I often think about gibbs energy, ie things will tend to decrease to its lowest energy state and "work" has to be done to raise something to higher state of being. in the case of us humans, the work it the active effort we put in to not becoming complete slobs.
>>34528958this is literally the most fucking stupid thing to be worried about in the entire world
>>34528958>>albumin: 4.6 g/dL (3.8-5.0)>>sex hormone binding globulin: 22 nmol/L (12-91)>>testosterone, total: 470.9 ng/dL (249.0-836)>>free test (calculated): 115.6 pg/mL (35.0-130.0, note the units are different to the above and below)>>bio available test (calculated): 289 ng/dL (79.0-335.0)People tell me I have autism
>>34529317Your anaolgy is correct, but I would frame it a little differently. The idea of "work" or "grinding" for a higher state of being is exhausting. I guess it depends what you want - do you want to have a "higher state of being" or to be happy? Do you enjoy working out anon? As is, the actual act of doing it and the feeling you get afterwards. Not the idea/perception of doing it or the results it brings physically. If you do, then this is why you should work out. If you view it like this, it's not work. It's doing something you enjoy. If you genuinely don't enjoy working out, you don't need to do the "work". You can still lose weight managing your diet, or doing an alternate form of exercise. I know for younger people it's a hard concept to grapple, it is for me too, but the key to a good life is really simple - it's just happiness and low stress. How to get this is the million dollar question, but I don't believe it is endless "working".
>>34529437i realize i wasn't totally clear when i was making that analogy. by "work" I just meant putting in active effort in relation to fixing a problem (per the analogy, i meant "work" in the thermodynamics manner. i've needed to do a lot of thermo recently). As i reread it, i see how it appears like sigma male speak, and i should say that i hate the rat race bullshit that is often celebrated. Likewise for the "higher energy state", i see how that too looks like sigma male speak, which I likewise hate for being pretentious/antisocial/conspicuous consumption. For this case, I meant being healthy, so at a good weight, physically fit (both strength and endurance), etc. A "lower energy state" would be just sitting in front of screen all day because that doesn't require active effort on my part. Another example would be, for grooming habits, not washing. It takes no effort to not wash/brush teeth/floss/etc, but that really "reduces you to a lower state" which makes you feel like shit in the long run.For what you say in the 2nd paragraph, I do feel good after working out because I can say to myself that I had enough self-control to do something strenuous but has benefits in the long term, and also the soreness can feel "pleasant" because it reverses soreness that accumulates from modern habits (example being chest flies and rear delt stuff undoes a lot of residual stress from sitting hunched over all day). But for resistance training, no I don't particularly enjoy it. In the case of cardio I really don't like it but try to do it for the same reason, unless its walking in a nice environment in which case it is something enjoyable for its own sake. Things that I would say apply to what you describe would, for me, be writing, drawing, and cooking, as well as reading and any other actual art viewing