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How to handle rejection from women?
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>>34159871
Just get used to it
Because it’s going to happen a lot
And that’s okay, it’s a learning experience
You get to see what does and doesn’t work when talking or trying with a woman, you can get the skills and know what to do
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>>34160901
But optimal builds do exist. They don't guarantee anything, but they do increase the probability of success with women or certain women.
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>>34160848
>>34163603
/adv/eddit
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>>34159887
this is a great perspective to remember
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>>34171397
>Actually marriage as we know it is a viable institution and it turns out, to marry the right person, you have to marry the right person.
profound

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>Spend three years on a niche but very much practical and relevant subject
>"Oops, turns out nobody's hiring, lmao. Get fucked."
>"Okay anon, either go back to university, get a job, or we're kicking you out of the house"
So what the fuck are you supposed to get? How do you even decide when it semes like basically everything is becoming obsolete anyways?

The only advice i've received from my family is shit like
>"How about finance? or Medicine?"
>"You like computers, you should become a programmer! I hear they get paid a lot!"
>"You should become an english teacher since you know it so much anon!"

And the public stuff I search for is no better
>The only things I'm interested in that are even slightly related are completely fucking dogshit for finding an actual job like history
>I'm in that living hell zone of the bell curve where you're smart enough to realize you have potential, but not enough to actually use it
>Worst of all, I'm an actual, diagnosed sperg. I can interact with people alright, but I sure as hell can't play the HR lady game. The only bright side of this is that I have a 'diversity' card so I'm not instantly tossed out for being a white, blue-eyed straight man.


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>>34169555
>Lucky you how did you get that?
Its just some type of apprenticeship that got popular here in the last few years. You apply at a company. The company partners with some university. They pay you for 50 % studying at said university and 50 % working at the company. So I get a bachelors degree, working experience and a solid pay in 3 years. The company then hopes to employ you, because you already know the company very well.

>Are you just installing google ultron and adobe reader all day or what?
Damn I didn't know the lore behind those words. But pretty much. I am not allowed to have any responsibility now so I do trivial shit. Learning about some intern stuff. Shit that was made decades ago with a fucking language that nobody really knows about and which hasn't really been upgraded.

>Are we talking the boomers or elder millennials like me?
They pretty much give similar advise. Not really much of a different when it comes the the "recommendations".

>What else am I missing?
A poor area. The area I am living in is one of the poorest of the country. In school I just applied to like max 10 different companies that of that type of apprenticeship mentioned above. A few agreed and I just took one.
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>>34169701
>some type of apprenticeship
is it catalyst?
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>>34165961
I've actually worked with GIS at my job

If you learn Spatial Analytics and maybe drone piloting you could find nice niche opportunities
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>>34165761
>How the hell are you supposed to decide on a career
its called research, lazy bitch. You can apply for internships or apprenticeships for many different professions or positions in society. You can even look these up through video streaming sites or social media. Try it all and settle for one to pursue.
>So the fuck am I supposed to do?
understand that work and employment do not necessarily have to be a perfect fit, or even enjoyable- it just has to FEED you. No one gives a fuck if you hate the job, what matters if whether or not you can perform it or not. If you cannot, you are useless to the business. If you are useful to the world, the world will FEED you and you can continue living. It's quite simple really. You need to get going, because the world is incredibly competitive.
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damn, it must've gotten rough out there, I had an "internship" when I was in high school that was doing basic GIS work to help an actual intern. Just sent an email to an environmental advocacy group and they were like sure, here's a thinkpad and an ArcView license

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I've got a girl coming over tomorrow night, the plan is she'll cook anything I get the ingredients for, her idea, and I'm a bit nervous about it because she's a lot younger than me.

I'm almost 32 and she's barely 20. Set up by some mutual friends, already hung out and spent the night a few times at my place, but I'm still not sure about it. My friend said that she really wants to impress me and it seems that way but even though that's flattering I don't really like it.

All the time we've spent together has been great, don't get me wrong. I like her and she likes me too but I'm not sure what to do with this whole thing, mainly because I feel kinda trapped. If I keep it casual then it'll break her heart and be a whole problem with our friends. I don't want to keep it just casual, but the fact that I really shouldn't really bothers me. Having my choices almost forced like that just doesn't feel right, even though it's the choice I want to make anyway. The girl is great and we get along very well, but I enjoy being a single dude with my own house and doing whatever I want, whenever I want. This feels like a step towards being a boring old man if I go through with it. Not to mention I'm sure her family will have their own questions about the age difference, even though we're both white.

Plus, I'm not sure what meal to choose tomorrow so that's another problem.
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>>34165041
If you can put up with someone like that the I don’t think it’s bad .She knows how old you are she knows what year you were born if that doesn’t make her uncomfortable and she doesn’t come off as an absolute child to you
Then who cares bruh like you were introduced to each other through friends not like seeking arrangement it seems good
You’re overthinking a good thing
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>>34165041
Go for it. Let her be the one that chooses whether or not the gap is ok.
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>>34167560
We were all coworkers a few years back and started hanging out together outside of work, and still hang out sometimes

>>34167839
We've been kinda friends for a few years, didn't just meet

>>34167809
>>34167831
Good advice. Thanks, anons.
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>>34165041
Shes over 18 so its legal and you wont get in trouble with the law, so its ok there.
The old rule of half you age plus seven is kinda how you figure out whats socially cool. Thats 23 and she's under that, so its kinda weird socially.

Listen to your gut and do what you feel is right for you.
But honestly, if she makes a move when shes over, id regret turning her down and not getting a little action, and you dont have to date her.

Go with the flow
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>>34165431
Where the best place a single 36 year old man can meet these womens?
>>34165041
Did u bang her or what?

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Women have become extremely fucking picky over the years searching for their fucking chads.

How do I find a woman that actually wants a real relationship?
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>>34171159
No, I am not OP. Stop assuming everyone who responds to you is OP. That's nigger level retardation.
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>>34171172
You girl must be 3 times your size
Or whatever trash like you lol
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>>34171172
So why are you taking over this thread? That's nigger level retardation.
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>>34171248
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>>34171258
The fuck you mean "taking over" this thread? I'm just responding to something someone wrote, man. Just like other people in this thread have responded to something other people wrote. That's conversation, bitch. Are you the gatekeeper of communications on this site, nigga? Do I need your permission to speak, nigga?
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>>34153231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHc
Social media has primed an environment where this type of degeneracy is not only accepted, it thrives. Social media desensitizes and radicalizes even moderates into believing heinous and abhorrent behavior is acceptable under the correct context. Spend just 5 minutes on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, you will find hordes of these deranged people. They exist among us. The FBI knows about them but never acts until it is far too late. Western society is on a one-way fast track to collapse as long as social media continues to destroy minds and decay the culture.

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For context, I'm a white man with a white wife. However, I will very frequently have intense erotic dreams about traveling in Asia and meeting Thai, Viet, Chinese, Japanese and Korean women at bars and clubs. It always ends in sex: passionate, romantic intense sex with asian women. I will hear those high pitched "augh augh augh" squeals the real asian women from asia make during sex. Those high pitched squeals are like music to my ears, in the dream I can hear those yellow sluts while feeling their tight asian cunts squeezing the hell out of my bwc. I will wake up with a terribly stiff erection, even if my wife is in bed with me.

From time to time, I'll try to relieve my yellow cravings with wmaf porn. I've thought about visiting asian escorts, just to live out my fantasies without having to upset my wife. I know my wife knows I have asian exes and despises asian women: she thinks any "slanty eyed slut" will try to steal me from her. Really one of my most shameful fantasies is a threesome with my wife and an asian woman. The bottom line is, my white dick craves yellow. I can't fight it. I want to smell Chinese puss again, I miss the college days.

Am I just fucked or is there a cure to yellow fever? I just want to stop the dreams and constant sexual thoughts any time a halfway attractive asian woman is near me.
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useless worthless faggot mod team
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>>34171189
Is this going to be one of those christcuck things again
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>>34171170
Gay
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useless mod team
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go see a shrink

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Is it true that the more men that a woman has had sex with, they lose their ability of how they form a strong emotional connection?
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>>34169223
>Yeah, um, and has it never even once occurred to you that if vast numbers of people are constantly telling you that you don't understand science, the simplest explanation for this is that you ACTUALLY DON'T?
I get told that by people who are willfully ignorant. You know, the kinds of people who accuse me of making up terms like "microdata" because they would rather call me a liar than spend 2 seconds on google to actually learn something. Another one said he isn't obligated to find evidence anything that hasn't already been proven right. So no, I don't take these clowns seriously.
>You've never considered that possibility?
Sure, and that's why I tried to understand your point. But none of them has been convincing. If any one of them could make a coherent argument, let alone actually respond to what I'm saying instead of getting assmad at phantom, maybe I'd be swayed.

>I'm saying that if we take, say, a thousand couples who have been happily married for fifteen years, and a thousand couples who were fairly recently married and where the people involved have a long string of failed relationships behind them, that *more* of the couples in the second group will get divorced. And that is all that the study proves.
They literally controlled for relationship length in both studies, you absolute fucking spastic. Go back and read the quotes. You are so far up your own ass in coming up with ways to rationalize the "spurious" correlation that you won't even read a single quoted sentence. Do YOU know what a control means?
I've been trying really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume misunderstanding rather than stupidity, that maybe you were just trying to reason your way out of an uncomfortable piece of evidence. Wouldn't be the first time I've been disappointed.
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>>34169223
>What the actual FUCK are you trying to suggest here?
Don't be obtuse. Maybe read the paragraph.
I'm not inventing a "mechanism unknown to science". I'm suggesting a role of biology in shaping people's behavior in relationships. Bonus! I'll spoonfeed you another tidbit, to make the analogy more clear, even to someone acting or actually slow:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK97287/
>"Several studies have now demonstrated that oxytocin plays a role in the development of the pair bond in the female prairie vole. Injections of an OT antagonist, a drug that blocks activation of the OT receptor, directly into the female prairie vole brain prior to cohabitation and mating inhibits the subsequent development of a partner preference"
>"These regions [of the brain with oxytocin and vasopressin receptors] are excellent candidates for facilitating pair bond formation because they are rich in dopamine, a neurotransmitter associated with reward and addiction."

I won't bother with the word vomit you wrote afterwards, since you completely misunderstood the very basic point and just repeated yourself.

I look forward to your rationalization of
>hurr durr prairie voles not humans
or some other way of completely missing the point again.
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>>34160244
The ancients correctly intuited microchimerism? Woah nelly! What else were they right about?
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>>34156592
Yes and they often get into this weird mental illness where when they love someone they don't want to have sex with them. They want to have sex only with people they don't have an emotional connection to. It's disgusting.
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>>34156592
yes; but, it's true for both ways. Sex is one of the most powerful bonding experiences so having too much of it with various forgettable people will inevitably devalue it.

I've been having sex with escorts pretty frequently and just got done with another one. The coom was underwhelming and I coomed quick this time. Why do I keep fucking doing this? What is wrong with me? Someone give me some advice on how to stop this shit.
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so, you've finally reached that point where it's not so much about the sex, it's about the connection, what you desire is a romantic connection to combo with the sex.

I cannot tell you how to get a romantic partner as I myself have never entered that arena, I am 37 and a forever virgin, the most I can tell you is when you are feeling the urge to have sex, to plap, stop and think, are you just horny or are you just lonely?
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>>34167766
>What is wrong with me?
You're an addict. It's characteristic of addiction that whatever it is you're addicted to becomes less and less satisfying, but you keep telling yourself "oh, the NEXT time will be better". It's also typical that the anticipation becomes a bigger deal than the actual thing - sex addicts sometimes spend hours driving around looking for the "perfect" hooker - far more time than they spend on the actual sex.

Your only option here is to quit, cold turkey. Then fill your life with interesting things and people so you don't get bored or lonely.
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>>34167766
I won't read self-inflicted problem threads.
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>>34167766
>Why do I keep fucking doing this? What is wrong with me? Someone give me some advice on how to stop this shit.
How to stop what? Paying the prostitute or ejaculating early? In either case the answer is: Stop paying the prostitute and refuse to fuck them.

What's wrong with you is, presumably, you don't know how to actually believe what is right about you and/or you refuse to consider that there are things right about you. Either that or no one in your entire life bothered to point those right things out to you, you instead only got told you were wrong, wrong, WRONG.

So if all you get told in life is:
>"You are wrong for being this way"
>"You are wrong for thinking this way"
>"You are wrong for feeling this way"
You receive the message that "Being (you) is wrong". And when you are buried underneath all of those psychological ashes, you will feel so far down that things that are actually wrong begin to look 'right'. Or, you decide the people branded you as a degenerate, a reprobate, a loser, a monster, a bad person, so you decide "I'll show them what that looks like" out of despairing anger.

No matter which way, the paths always lead to the same destination, and empty void, just (you) and the howling abyss of emptiness. You can even see that same abyss of emptiness in the reflection of the eyes of the prostitute if you pay attention.

Do not despair, and do not be afraid. The simple answer is to turn back, turn and go the other way. You won't know which way that leads or where precisely you should go with your life, that is OK. You are not meant to know, but you will know in time. But for now turn back, and go the opposite direction. You have learned paying the prostitute only kills you, what little remains of you. Protect that you have left of yourself at all costs, it can regrow in time. But do not give another morsel of your money or energy to the prostitute my friend.

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>>34167766
>>34167787
>>34167790
Not OP but I'm cut and I find that I rarely cum from PIV sex with condom (from escorts or regular ladies) but that's because I also have death grip syndrome :(

Still wish that I was never cut though.

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I don't like being boring
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Will fishing get me a cute weird gf and wife?
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>>34169390
It is a skill you practice. Both initiating a conversation and holding one.

One example of how to start a conversation is to find something of note about someone, like text/graphics on their bag/shirt and talking to them about it. For example "oh is that X" or just literally read the text aloud in front of them. Or notice what activity they're doing. That is a good way to start smalltalk.
After you've started a conversation you can try bringing up new topics. Don't feel down if someone is uninterested, maybe they're busy or want to talk with their friends.

People are often more receptive to conversation at social events or when they're alone in my experience.
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>>34169606
Probably not
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>>34164877
Rock climbing is objectively fun
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>>34169606
no

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>new guy comes in
>never seen him before in my life
>says the boss sent him here
>starts literally snatching things from my hand that I was working on
>I ask him what the fuck he's doing
>just keeps aggressively taking over my space as I'm standing there
>doesn't even ask what he's supposed to do or ask if he can help
>then proceeds to fuck up my work cause nobody has trained him

What to do in a situation like this?
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>>34167361
Report exactly what is happening to your immediate supervisor as it is happening
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>>then proceeds to fuck up my work cause nobody has trained him
oof thats the line crossed. the moment someone sabotages me in any way what so ever, i see red. because i am rsponsible for my own actions and work. if they see that my work is fucked up, i am going to be blamed, not others.
maybe they deliberatly placed him there, to get you fired? also what >>34167532 said
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>>34167361
kill him and desecrate his corpse
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>>34168438
That's murder.

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20 year old retard here
Got lucky enough to have a middle school fren group that I am still frenz with somehow but every single time i hang with them boredom hits about 30 minutes in regardless of what we do and I want to leave immediately.

Also I avoid money hangouts related to money cause there is no reason to earn money as a 20 year old in 2026, only thing you need for survival is food drip fed to you.

The worst part is hangouts were slightly more fun when you are a teen just cause of the novelty but it wore off and realizing every human you meet will be boring to deal with eventually.

My advice here is what the hell could be causing immense boredom here or are zoomers just that cookie-cutter and by the books? even my edgy frenz aren't that edgy enough so idk nothing seems to work anymore??
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>>34168214
They grew up and you didn't
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Because humans are social creatures, not wanting to hang out with people is fine; actively avoiding socialization because of a distaste towards other humans means something is wrong with you. You're not "quirk" or "special" or "unique", you're defective and failed at the only necessary requirement of being human.
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money works as an "either have shit little of it millions of it" with little to no in-between

you either slave away scraping by or make a million dollar plan

neither of those 2 options will happen overnight, 1 works more immediately but is retarded for longterm, while the other makes you bummy but has a chance of working sometime in the future

also if you are white in the west, most jobs probably would not hire you right away anyways and would rather take shaneequa or jose instead

be expected to be called broke by other friends every waking second too, especially the male ones
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>>34168214
If you dont enjoy hanging out with your friends then you just outgrew them and need to make new friends. You wont get along with everybody.

I spent like two hours at a bar yesterday with this one friend just talking over drinks. Then another two hours at a different bar with two other friends. We didn't do anything. Just sitting around drinking.
Theres a few friends that if i hung out with them one on one itd be boring and we wouldn't really be able to have a good talk because we just dont connect. Others i do.

Its not easy to find people you connect with.
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also my mom stated she got her teaching techniques from baby boomers meaning she is... retarded possibly, and retardation is genetic.

basically living a life pretending to care about other people gets exhausting and most people seem not to realize this perspective.

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Was at the supermarket for my weekly shop.
Whilst at the self check out one of the employees said to another one “I’m so stuffed” and “put down a good layer for alcohol tonight”.
The other employee replied “going out tonight?”
The first employee replied “yes, dancing and I hope by the end of the night I will be getting stuffed by “two” of them”.

I never went out. Never had friends. Have no clue where to start. Social things were never taught to me. I wish I was back in my 20s again and could do it all over again.]

How do I deal with having missed out on so much? How do I deal with jealously if the youth and all the freedomn they have, something I never had?
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>>34169385
Bro, you were seriously triggered that bad by an immature conversation that made you start dwelling on superficial shit that you never had (didn’t choose to have) and then the urge to post about it? First, how do you even know you missed out on anything if you never had it?
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>>34169385
Understand the past is behind you, but every possibility still exists to be taken in the future. Be at peace that yes you'll never "be 20 something and do x", but rejoice that you can, are still able and will eventually do x, even if you're in your 30s, 40s, 50s. In a way, by understanding that, you will be more free. Even more so if you let go of the comparaisons. You deal with having missed so much by doing these things. Pic rel is arma 3? Play the game (or anything really), mic up and talk with others. Ask them if they often play it, ask them if eventually they would want to play with you someday, or ask them to teach you more about the game. Next time, dont go for the self checkout, say hi to the employee, ask him about his day, or tell him to have a nice day afterwards. You could also join a D&D club, or any club really, I think some stores do D&D events you can try going to one. After a while you can ask the people there to go out for something. Volunteering? Could be cool too. Going to the gym, obviously, but it's really easy to just go in and out, but maybe that's better. You could ask your neighbor for something, then afterwards give something back, the thing you ask for doesn't matter honestly, really it's just so that you can give something back without it being too weird, and the Ben Frankin effect may play a role in that too.
I'm just saying random shit, try what resonates with you. I have difficulties talking to other people or doing things if I think it can go bad and I often overthink things, but I realised that doing things is half the battle. Do things really, do them jealous, do them sad, do them melancholic, do them with regrets, but just do them. No amount of advice will do things for any of us. For the never taught part, if you do social things you'll learn what works and what doesn't, not without failures, but also not without successes if you keep at it. Eventually, after you've done these things, you'll understand.
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Would you rather be 20 and sick or 35 and healthy?
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>>34170896
>let go of the comparaisons
I meant comparisons desu

(Cont)
Will all of your problems go away? No. But you'll understand than you can do something about it, as you have done things before. What about the problems you can do nothing about? That's a discussion for another day, or a problem you can look into by reading into stoicism. I think our problem is that we don't do enough, out of fear, ignorance, loneliness, maybe a few would say it's because of a group, or another, or that one, or the other. I don't think it matters that much who or what is at fault. It's comforting to escape responsibility by denying your ability to do something, but I have found that most of the time, I'm the one responsible for fixing things in my own life, same goes for (you), and until I've done it (guess how, by doing things), things won't change, regrets will grow, and time will pass. Time will pass anyway, but the first two don't have to stay this way. Go get it.
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OP here.

>>34170438
I never developed social skills, had overprotective parents, hard to break my conditioning, no confidence, I have a 'baby face' and look way younger than I actually am.

>>34170475
no confidence, no idea where to start, no idea what to do.

>>34170534
yes I'am triggered by an immature conversation. If I can not have fun, then no one should be allowed to any. I want to go back to the time of Corona lock-downs. People stuck at home, just like me. I know I missed out cause I lived most of my life as a hermit or is it recluse?

>>34170896
To me the world does not come across as friendly and helpfull and you make it out to be.

>>34170929

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Is it a good idea to date a gamer?
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>>34167472
I personally wouldn't, but I don't really like vidya or watching vidya or being called a nigger. Do what works for you, just don't be one of those people that does date a gamer and 3 years into the relationship is like "why tf they just play vidya all the damn day?"
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Depends, if you are a toxic tryhard asshole then not, if you are chill lets have fun type yes.
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women are always shit at vidya
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>>34167472
Video games bring out the worst in people.

Also depends what games they play.

Should I be less kind to people? I try my hardest to be kind but I don' think it makes me attractive. I've never had a girlfriend and feel like people just don't really respect me. I've had good things in my life and lots of blessings but I feel like nobody likes me really. I feel like people might like me but nobody loves me. Nobody wants to spend time with me and I'm always the first one to message. Should I just stop being nice to people?
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>>34170904
>Alright so what do you mean when you say you think you should be "meaner"


>Some friends don't respond to me and have told me to just message them a period if they don't see my message.
>Don't invite or buy things for friends who don't do anything for me
>Don't respond as fast as I normally do
>Stop saying "it's okay np" when they don't respond to me in a week ( if even that short )
>Don't wish people a happy holiday ( no matter what holiday it is ) first
>Don't buy people birthday gifts when they never buy you stuff
>Stop doing favors for people
Stuff like that
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>>34170933
None of those things are mean
That was what I was trying to get at with my first question

Not buying someone a present when they never buy you presents is a healthy boundary, not being mean.
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>>34170962
What about not ding the period thing and just ghosting them? I don't wanna be the first one to always message people :(
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>>34170976
Normal boundary
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>>34171008
Alright I'm gonna do it and be less nice to people now. I'm going to commit to this

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I’m 19 turning 20 this year finishing my second year of school. I originally attended a private 4 year school and struggled my first year. After concluding my first year I took some classes at my local community college from May-Jan. As the fall semester was concluding I applied to re-enter my original school. I tried letting my parents know particularly my mother and she was strongly against me returning. After I got in since I was a former student they assigned me a schedule pretty quickly and so I began to attend classes. My mother lost it and started shouting and screaming and telling me how stupid of a decision this was and while I don’t entirely disagree the approach was a bit harsh imo. I’ve also registered at my local community college for spring semester to avoid this in case my parents don’t allow me to return. With aid and scholarships if I went to the private school I’d be paying $6k in fees which is nothing to scoff at but I don’t think I’m crazy for thinking it’s not a ludicrous price. The reason I would enjoy going to back to my original school is that home I feel very isolated, and it has slowly been eating at my mental health. I understand the frustration my parents hold since I did fuck up in school and disappoint them but I feel that control over me is another reason they feel so strongly about this. Anyways my goal is to move out by 21
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>>34168568
>I would also say unless your parents are wildly successful in life and business and have personal experience with what you want to do, thank them for their input say you'll consider it,

Thank you for you me advice and consideration. My mother is nurse herself and went to the same cc I’m attending currently so she does obviously have some experience, the issue is I’m not sure I want to follow in her footsteps exactly.
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>>34168970
In high-performance and competitive fields a real life, qualifying question you will in fact sometimes be asked is "do you have any X in the family"? This is asked because having the benefit of someone genuinely invested in your growth like a family member who knows how to do what you want to do is a massive force multiplier. If you do want to do something in the medical field, it is worth considering listening to your mom and enlisting her assistance.
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>>34169067
This is helpful information thank you for sharing it with me. I’ve heard that for nursing the institution that you attend and graduate from isn’t considered as much as other career paths, is there any truth to that?
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>>34168358
Bump
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>>34168377
Blew that foid out the water

How can I improve myself? Any advice is welcome, both externally and mentally.
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>>34170467
Start with a goal, create small, easily attainable goals that tie into the larger goal, blah blah blah. What exactly are you wanting to improve?
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Get out there
Mash with humans
Get data on urself (and others)
Then you can know what you should do with urself
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>>34170467
I won't read threads to which the answer is dad advice because it has already been done to death.


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