Am I the only one who doesn't like to hear or even think about gfs exes? Especially about intimate stuff? The thought of me kissing the same mouth she sucked off some guys in the past disgusts me. It isn't an obsession or anything like that, just a passing thought. Obviously, I inderstand thats how life works and ex-bfs (and other luggage like that) are usually inevitable (especially with age), but it still affects my mood briefly. Will it go away with experience or something? Or thats how other people live too even if both of them had multiple exes? Just bear and keep moving further? Do women feel the same? I don't mind marching on like this for the rest of my life too if thats a normality.t. acquired first gf recently at the ripe age of 30
>>34645610Tell them not to mention it. Its totally normal to feel all sorts of grossed out
>>34645610>t. acquired first gf recently at the ripe age of 30gzI would say that you let that go as much as you can (if she's not interacting with exs, "friends" and shady shit), now she is yours, only yours
>>34645610I'm female but I can relate to this. I don't have any photos of them and I hope I never do. I have pathetic self satisfaction when he mentions negative traits about them. I'm ultimately super grateful that he's with me (for some reason) and the thing I focus on is that I'm the most recent. He's only been with me in X years. Plus after 7 years or something all cells are replaced so it's sorta like all mine... Ultimately, and I can tell you this because I clearly have these feelings, don't think about it too much. Them experiencing sexual pleasure is good so they didn't feel lonely or pent up or otherwise. And now it's your turn and maybe you'll be their last as well if the situation is so lucky. First is one thing, but last is another thing entirely. Didn't need anybody else...
>>34645610nah i think it's really hot hearing about her experiences and making her recount acting like a slut for his big thang
Completely normal. I also hated that. My ex was a typical conventionally attractive sociable college girl, obviously she had a few bfs and a few fwbs, I always hated to hear about that shit. The relationship didn't last and everyone said I was an idiot because she was attractive and also fairly successful (had gigs going on and had a pass to all sorts of events and stuff). That shit only flies with drunk college idiots.Eventually I did find a good girl, also a virgin, and we got married and we've been married for 3 years now. I can't imagine, I literally can not imagine being with a woman with a bodycount, especially modern women who all have had sexual partners in the tens and probably done a few disgusting things also. I'd rather eat mud all alone.
Why are women these days only looking for "fuck buddies" instead of boyfriends or husbands?
>>34648762kek so fucking true and on point
>>34645432>>34645469I'm starting to realize I might just be a fuckbuddy cause we only hangout like once or twice a week only very late at night to do one thing(fuck) i dont even have her phone number we just talk on discordBut I want her to be mine and I want to take her places and just hangout instead of fucking all the timeDid the roles of men and women reverse somehow?
>>34650993Yes, you are her bitch. Nothing more than a glorified cheap disposable sex doll. She sees zero boyfriend material in you. You are nothing but a dildo.
>>34650993Lol dildo boy
>>34651023>>34651028
me and my ex had a pretty brutal but confusing breakup, it ended in anger and uncertainty and he wanted space before considering getting back togetheri personally have already explained to him that i want to grow from this and try again, but he is unsure and needs time to think and cool off from all the emotional distressits been around 2 weeks now, i sent him a longer text on mail thinking he wouldn't see it right away and wanting to respect distance, but the anxiety of uncertainty is weighing down on me a lot so i sent him a message 2 days ago asking which way hes leaning more towards (cutting me off permanently or also willing to try again) he said he wanted to read the email first before giving me an answer and i told him id rather he take his time to respond even if its a couple of days, i want to respect the distance but the anxiety is crippling.i wish i just could get a yes or no answer so i wouldn't need to spend so much time trying to predict the outcome or constantly check if hes said anything yet but ill give him the time he needshow do i deal with the anxiety? and how long is reasonable to wait for a response? i get he needs to distance himself to calm down but i also don't feel like i can wait forever
>>34649870If waiting is the hardest part for you, then distract yourself, hang out with friends, exercise, pursue your interests, anything to fill your day. My first serious relationship ended like this, it was only when i heard from my ex's friend that she perma ghosted me without my knowledge.
>>34649870If waiting is the hardest part for you, then distract yourself, hang out with friends, exercise, pursue your interests, anything to fill your day. My first serious relationship ended like this, it was only when i heard from my ex's friend that she perma ghosted me without my knowledge. If you still feel like you wanna try the relationship again, then wait, if not, then send another message saying youre done
>>34649870What's it like being gay as a guy do you get in a fist fight when you argue?
>>34649870>2 weeks nowNowhere near long enough if he "needs time to think." You just reopened all his wounds.
>>34650896my last message to him was saying that i understand he needs time to think and that im leaving it up to him to reply whenever he feels ready. i want to stand by that, i'm just not used to things being solved without talking but i understand he needs time to de-stress.its just hard for me, the wait makes me super anxious because i have zero idea what is going on behind the scenes. ill give it more time and not contact him even when i really feel like i have to
I grew up in foster care and got moved around a bunch. I kept running away from them whenever I could, because they kept insisting on controlling how I dress and how I refer to myself.They didn't like when I cut my hair short, or when I dressed like a guy. They kept throwing out my jeans and my T-shirts whenever they found them. I had a stash of secret clothes I'd change into whenever I left the house during the times I did have to stay with them, because girly clothes just made me feel like a weirdo.Eventually I ran away and aged out of the system before they found me so they didn't really care past that point. I started calling myself Marc and cut my hair short.I was always kinda petite so I never needed a binder. Nobody ever took me for a guy, but getting to dress how I wanted and call myself what I liked felt like freedom.I talked to a doctor about getting started on the hormones and stuff, and they referred me to a psychiatrist to confirm I'm trans and stuff before moving forward. I talked to the psychiatrist and she said it sounds like I'm just trying to reclaim control over my life by rebellin against biology.I feel like theres more to it than that, but she sort of shut the book on my ability to move forward with this by that diagnosis. I can't afford to just keep seeing psychiatrists to try again for a different opinion, but I am trying to save money for it.I'm with a guy who's into me though, who agreed to let me stay with him and cover expenses if I'd be exclusive with him. He made it clear I have to find my own place if I transition though.It feels like the world is against me here, and the battle to be who I want to be seems impossible compared to what would probably be a pretty easy life if I just go with the flow.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>34647615It's not a "grass is greener" thing, so much as femininity makes me uncomfortable and however much of a tomboy or butch I could try to be, there's still an inescapable element of femininity in being a woman.I just want to feel comfortable in my own skin, and being a tomboy has never been enough for that.>>34647804A lot of this I feel like is hard to trust. I do feel like transition isn't for everyone, but that there are some people it genuinely helps. Some people might detrans because it wasn't right for them as an individual, but I feel that it would be right for me.>>34648521>So you already have someone who accepts you for who/what you areIt's complicated. He saved me from homelessness. He's a lonely man who struggled to get a relationship, I'm his first girlfriend, and the arrangement started as kind of...I be his gf and he gives me a place to live. It wasn't a romantic beginning or probably even a healthy one. He's been there for me when I needed him though, and I appreciate that support and ended up caring about him enough that the idea of losing our relationship does hurt.
>>34639271My only question to you is why the fuck are you here on 4chan? You're literally the enemy; the globohomo jew's creation. Fuck off back to plebbit or kill yourself, but you are NOT welcome here, retard. You disgust me. Please transition
>>34639271Do Foids really hate themselves that much? You won at life, just look at this kazakh chick that's making the rounds on the net.
>>34639271>I talked to the psychiatrist and she said it sounds like I'm just trying to reclaim control over my life by rebellin against biology.Sounds like she was spot on. It sounds like you're so desperate to assert control over your life/choices that you're going against a trained medical professional's diagnosis just to continue your preexisting plan of transitioning.It reminds me of the bullied kids that end up blasting tren from the trauma, ending up as a freak with a myriad of health issues just because they never knew how to feel comfortable in their own skin.If possible, I'd recommend following up with a psych(preferably the one that gave the initial diagnosis) to talk further about healthy coping mechanisms, CBT genuinely helps with the kind of dysmorphia you're showing.
>>34649423Let him impregnate you and the baby hormones will make you forget all this
I think on some level, I deeply hate women. It’s not even being resentful over a lack of attention anymore. I had the opportunity to talk to some new women today and didn’t even try. I’ve completely given up on finding a new relationship. Even if one fell in my lap, I wouldn’t feel comfortable starting anything when I’m not sure where my next paycheck will be from. But when I’m alone, I just whisper all the bad things past women have done to me or my friends.>I hate the woman that lied about me to my command. Completely stunted a whole career in a day, and yet I had to fill out most of my contract with her present. > I hate the ones that promised me a promotion that never came. > I hate the ones that backed up a guy to charge legal action against my friend. > I hate the multiple times I got cops called on me simply because I was in the same grocery store.> I hate that they hated me when I had a good job. > I hate that I know no amount of natural muscle building or weight cutting is truly enough.> I hate the manipulation from even the “good ones.” The stringing along for months just for attention. The convincing to help with one thing before being discarded. > I hate the fake smiles, the “you’re so funny anon.”> I hate the lack of any intelligent conversation. The constant chattering about sex chapters in books they can’t seem to read cover to cover. The proud announcing of all men being trash followed by what men are attractive. > I hate that I’ll never be able to tell if someone is truly showing kindness or lying as part of a game.I want to change this. I want to be able to talk to women again. I want to live without fear for a day. Just one day. I want to start a new relationship and a new job in a new place. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
OP, you can read these two books, they boil down to : you need to work on your self esteemhttps://anonfilesnew.com/s/3DomitOf7U2https://anonfilesnew.com/s/ASSTHykJX9z
First, I’ll take a second and thank you all for engaging in earnest. I know this probably isn’t an easy subject matter nor am I an easy person to talk to. I’m trying to give push back not to argue but to explain. >>34648850> Or are you just jaded?Yes. > If you already know that 1: not all women, not even nearly half, are like thatAt some point you tell yourself this enough times that you stop believing it. I want to, sure, but right now I’d be lying if I say this statement.> know for sure that your experiences are outside what other people around you experienceI don’t think they are. I think people are either blessed enough by our society that no pain will ever find them or they are like the unjaded me a few years ago. Constant denial, general optimism, and the belief that people want to be good. Like, this goes a little beyond the women question thing, but it genuinely believe some people are born into this world just to cause harm for harm’s sake. Our society rewards these people with power and wealth. Through natural and cultural selection the world will become crueler. Most optimistic people are just one bad week from seeing this for themselves.> There are a non-zero significant number of women in positions of authority, but like any “authority” is their power just in their heads? What is the penalty for leaving a paper prison?Blood is the currency of power. The fear of what may happen to the prisoners is what keeps them in a cage. Just as the fear of what’s behind a locked door is what deters the home robber, not the actual lock which is easily picked. > is it right to judge a person by another person’s crimes?No. I do it because making a guess based on patterns is what keeps us all alive. Is it ever morally right? Maybe in one case who knows. Is it morally right here? Again, no. My only defense is that moral righteousness is subjective and therefore can not supersede survival in most cases.
>>34649613I’ll have to check them out later. I’m on mobile and the ads can’t be closed.>>34649359> The only way to curb this is to go out of your comfort zone and meet more womenOkay, where is this outing that will change my mind?
>>34647221I have a pretty cynical view of women and even I don't think they're that bad. I know some good ones, a number of alright ones, lots of stupid/selfish/broken ones, etc. The main thing about modern women isn't that they're evil (although some of them are) but simply that they're a disappointing shadow of what past generations' women were. They're basically all superficial, social-media addicted losers without much to offer the world. If you actually go through life conflicting with so many nasty people the problem is likely you, stop starting shit with people who aren't worth interacting with.
>>34647221>cops called on me simply because I was in the same grocery store.Dude, this is a tell. This means you harassed her enough to get a restraining order on your ass. You earned it. You worked hard for you isolation and you earned your time in solitary.
How do I become less horny? Is there a drug or supplement I can take? I can not do anything with my day because I just feel the need to jerk off. It's with senses as well. Everything that I hear or see makes me uncomfortable. I've tried exercise and diet. I don't want to jerk off. I just want to get my day done and not feel the ever increasing need to do that.
>>34649629>Go to psychiatrist (not a psychologist, there's a difference)>Set up an appointment and explain your symptoms >They perscribe you stuffNote that SSRIs come with other major side effects so I wouldn't go this route. If you're too horny the best method is to stop looking at porn and lewd imagery even if your brain is screaming at you to do so, the more images you give it to work with the harder it will be to not ruminate on them and get horny.
>>34649476>needing pills to stop touching my dickMotherfucker you probably don't do shit but work out for 3hrs and goon for the other 21, miss me with your "I've tried everything" faggotry, you just don't have shit going on. I would believe you more if you had actual sex addiction but you're just an idiot that can't find shit else to do but touch himself and thinking it's some sort of impossible addiction. Grow up retard.
>>34649629SSRIs are prescribed for much more than depression. There's even a thing called compulsive sexual behavior disorder, for which you might get them as well (along with therapy).>https://icd.who.int/browse/2025-01/mms/en#1630268048Alternatively, you can just buy them. I have been prescribed atomoxetine and fluoxetine, and I still buy alprazolam and dextroamphetamine to help me through my days.
>>34649476heroin and steroids are known for giving you a limp dick
>>34649476They use cyproterone acetate in low doses to treat acne and baldness in men and women. They use high doses to reduce the libido of sex offenders.They use super high doses to treat prostate cancer.Theoretically, a medium dose should even out the libido a bit without ruining it completely. You can drop into any gender clinic and request it, just have to say you're nonbinary or some such.
24MI spend most of my time online, I work a stable job. I live on my own.I'm a miserably depressed chud. I live hundreds of miles away from my family now.I don't get out much, I don't have many friends. I don't really talk to anyone, even online.When I'm not working I just sit at my computer and just watch YouTube or play video games by myself.How do I stop being a chud? How do I fix this?
>>34650701do you have any interest in anything outside of being inside and playing video games? Even remotely is a start, like running, painting, photography, cooking...etc.
>>34650733Yeah. I love getting out of the house and going for walks, going to bars, etc. It's just hard to convince myself to go to public spaces entirely alone. Feels awkward.
>>34650739It can be pretty difficult to do things alone like that, especially if you dont have any drive. But maybe see if theres any events around you, like a beginner pottery class, run clubs, literally anything if you're in it for the sake of becoming a real person. Just remember that not everyone you try to talk to is gonna reciprocate the feeling of wanting to be friends, i personally recommend trying some trial classes and martial art gyms, because it immediately puts you in a situation where you need to communicate with other people which makes it easy to make friends from my experience.
>>34650701you have the freedom and space to be by yourself, you're in a sustainable place by having a job...whatever you're gonna do, you're in a good place to figure it out. IMO just keep doing you, don't search for more, you might not like what you find
My greatest fear is that the girls I'm rejecting are the best I can get.
>>34649269Anon have some respect for yourself. Being single is better than being in a toxic sexless marriage. Just look at r/deadbedrooms, that shit will really make you question if you ever wanna get married. Ive been lonely for a while and developing an autistic hobby to latch onto has made my life so much better. For me its classical guitar, I am sure there is something out there for you to get hooked on.>muh dying aloneMost people in relationships die alone as well, Ie dying on the shitter or slipping in the shower. Only difference is their body is found much faster lol.
>>34649415>Ive been lonely for a while"I haven't had any water to drink since two days I'm soooo thirsty" motherfuckers be like
>>34649187How do you know what I look like?This just goes back to the problem of the OP.
>>34642040Not necessarily but if your standards are based on just whether a girl looks like the porn you jerk off to then you're doing it wrong. Attraction is a threshold, as long as someone is attractive enough for you then when you fall in love with them you'll find them attractive. Pay attention to whether a girl is the kind of wife you'd want, and then once you've found one of those, consider whether she's attractive enough to fill that role. It sounds like you might be doing it backwards.
>>34650719>Pay attention to whether a girl is the kind of wife you'd want, and then once you've found one of those, consider whether she's attractive enough to fill that role.Isn't this just leading someone on? What happens if you decide she's not attractive?
>Brand new at a job>Very attractive female boss and I are talking one on one, I’ve worked like 80+ hours this week so I’m completely exhausted (explains why I said something so weird) >She asks me point blank during our conversation if I have a girlfriend. >I say “no, but that’s alright too, haha”>She awkwardly laughs back and pivots subjects. How do I recover from this?
If you're not going to date your coworkers anyways you can wear a rainbow pin for diversity quota points.
Jerk off onto her hair while she's answering a phone call.
Had a pretty bad break up late last year and I'm still feeling the shock of it most days. It's a pretty long and evolving story I really don't want to tell again, but the gist of it is>Long distance relationship>Lots of incompatibility but it made us (me?) love more. He has abandonment issues and I have the opposite if it gives best insight>turns out he actually was actually messaging other guys and my sister the whole time and ultimately dated her behind my backKinda ruined a lot of my trust in others while also pushed me to try whatever I can to recover from all that.>Going to therapy and on some meds now. Depression and some psychosis stuff>Hanging out with friends more (weirdly enough actually helped two of them get through their own breakups and suicide)>Tried a sfw /soc/ thread (I ended up ghosting everyone)>I don't visit my family as much because of the one sister, but my parents are now aware that I'm biI feel conflicted about the whole thing I wanna be able to feel happy without feeling horrified again and it's been a wild ride so far. I think I'm willing to try anything but dating because I definitely wasn't great at the time and I'm aware I haven't changed yet (I'll hear your wisdom if this is a good idea or not)>ReligionI'd prefer not relying on one, but I think about it a little. Pray for me if you are religious
>>34648075>I'm biyou're a faggot, kys
>>34648075From my personal experience, there are no 'practical' actions you can take to get over a breakup faster. Just continue on with your like like normal, pursue your interests, hang out with friends and family, etc. And you will find yourself naturally getting over it day by day. These things take time.
How do I get rid of this feeling that I'm gonna get fucked over.>Be me>Working in a factory for years>manager knows I'm autistic and treats me like shit for it>Raises are few and far between and told I was too stupid to get a promotion>Try to job hunt while keeping things secret, nobody will hire me because I'm trying to not lose this job by calling in every time I have an interview. I am the only employee that doesn't get PTO, and I get points if I call in sick. >Manager gets promoted>They hire in a guy>I have to train him to do set ups and paperwork, because again...they think I'm too stupid. >He looks into my personnel record>Sees that I'm the lowest paid person in the shop despite years of experience and training>Even new hires make whole dollars more than me>He says that he wants to get me a massive raise to bring me into parity with my co-workers, basically 10 grand more per year>Management fights him on it, basically because management thinks I'm retarded.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>34650593he still thinks you being treated like this is unfair, he's about to find out exactly why you're treated like thishe's gaining feeling like a good guy that's doing the right thing from it until he realizes it's the wring thing
>>34650593Then again, you are a stupid autistic freak. Autists molest children and torture animals, so it would be better if you continue being expoited.
>>34650473I'd be more likely to kill myself than anything. I quit once and had to go back because I couldn't even get a fucking minimum wage job. Someone once suggested that when I applied to places, they called for a reference, my employer told them I wasn't a good employee.
>>34650624I'll try to walk you through it.Get whatever government program for autism you have in your country to help you. There's manual jobs that require next to no skill or thinking, especially that your country has factories. The worst thing that can happen from you reaching out is finding someone with sympathy for your situation.>they called for a referenceYou're supposed to leave your friends' numbers as your supervisors. When the people from your new job call they say something along the lines of "anon? He's an average worker. I'm too busy to talk more"
>>34649847>that whole fucking storyyou know the origin of "going postal"?
>be me>girl at uni wants my d>asks me out on a date for next week>she happens to be turkish>stalk her insta a bit>she calls herself a muslim and has multiple posts celebrating islamic holidaysShe's hot and I like her but I don't know if I can date someone who is a follower of Pedohammad.What's weird is there is like nothing religious about her at all. You wouldn't even guess it. She looks European, dresses like any normal girl in our country (UK), drinks alcohol, smokes weed, and of course asked out me (non-religious white English guy).Be honest Anons am I making a mistake getting involved with her?
>>34642342She might have a disease
>>34646773Most of us can only dream.
>>34645992>anon fucked an Eskimo
>>34642342Unless you can convert her into athiesm I would say def not. Really don't like having to deal with people that have a bunch of retarded belief systems. I don't like dealing with people in general either. I don't like people.
>>34643904It depends on the kind of posts. Virtue signaling so the grandparents back home can see inspiring "God is love" messages on their feed is different from getting into retarded debates about the true meaning of some Bible verse.
I have been struggling a lot with many things lately. I have been trying to say "yes" to more things like going out with friends during a time I wouldn't normally go out even though I am not busy. For example, I'd normally only go out on weekends. I have been trying to say yes to doing things more often during the week. Anyway, I have major issues with driving sort of. I can do it but difficult driving takes a lot out of me energy wise and stress wise. I asked my friend "When you drive to a place you haven't been to before, what do you do?" He didn't understand my question. I asked him again and all he said "Bro, what do you mean? I throw the address in the GPS and just go. What are you asking me?" Then it dawned on me that I am some sort of neurotic mess. I don't at all EVER just "pop the address in a GPS and go." I have to manually go on google maps and I follow the WHOLE path from start to finish in street view. I take note of any weird intersections or weird roadways. I scope out the parking lot of the location and I scope out their busiest times and their slowest times as far as crowds. THEN, I double check everything the night before the event and then I go. So I never ever just get up and go.I do this sort of thing with many many things in my life. I have this intense need to know how things will flow. I can't describe it. Its like I can never just do something. I always have to prepare. I felt terrible once I realized that my friend couldn't even grasp what I was asking of him because its such an alien thing that almost no one probably does. So I was effectively asking him to think like a fucking retard. What can I do? I am afraid to ask my friends more questions like this because now I fear the answer. I remember the utter look of confusion on his face because he really didn't understand what I was asking him because it was effectively retarded.
>>34649810What is the difference between regular anxiety and an anxiety disorder?
>>34649836how often it happens, how long it lasts and how it seeps into everything you do. It's normal to feel anxiety sometimes, specially when trying new stuff, but not all the time, with everything you do.
>>34650041I would say it happens to me frequently unfortunately. If someone said "Hey man, we gotta go [INSERT EVENT HERE] next week." That would seemingly murder me. Its something about finding out I have to do something and then waiting for it to come around so I can finally get it over with. So basically what happens to me is that my mind basically pauses everything else and I can't help but think about the event that I have to do next week. I hate surprises but I'd almost rather people just spring shit on me instead. Because then I wouldn't have to be tortured by the waiting.
>>34650160>So basically what happens to me is that my mind basically pauses everything else and I can't help but think about the event that I have to do next weekYour brain is treating it like a life or death situation, you have to convince it that it isn't. Hanging out with friends shouldn't be stressful. It takes time and exposure but it's doable. I still have problems with anxiety, but something that helps is reassuring myself whenever I feel anxious, shit like:>"it's fine, I already checked the route twice, I can always check it again later">"if the parking lot is full I can always park further away and walk">"I double checked the door before leaving I'm positive it's closed"Try doing it with something small first and see if that helps a bit
>>34649774You sound like you have OCD.
Although is just 20h the week and the salary is more or less good for the amount of time you work, I only see macabre relates of being a teacher(both public and private). I am currently working in an administrative job and it's kinda comfy despite some stressful moments and it's also 20h.
>>34647069>Is it worth being a teacher?it used to be agood jb with a lot of free time, now it's just humiliation ritual, kids will film you and put in the onternet to shame u, use AI to make deepfakes etc etc, I personally would avoid it
>>34647069being a teacher is one of those jobs that you shouldnt get for the pay. you shouldnt be a teacher if you are not passionate about educating your community and potentially dealing with troubled youth. you will be doing kids a disservice
>>34647069In my opinion no, but that's only cause I have zero patience and also I know I'm the type to fold if a female student wants to fuck me so I'm not even gonna go down that rabbithole
>>34648751>>34648817>>34649208>>34649340Thanks for the answers. I'm also a History graduate, and I've always loved the subject and teaching it to others. But the state of education where I live has become pretty bad.Students can get away with almost anything, and teachers often aren't allowed to properly discipline them. On top of that, there are coworkers and school administrators who may go after other teachers simply because they have different views.I know teachers who are genuinely passionate about what they do, but they're constantly burned out. Unfortunately, many of them say that the negative aspects of the job are so exhausting that they end up overshadowing the good parts.
do you actually think teachers only work the school hours? kek at least research about a job before considering it
How do I become a person people want to hit up and hang out with instead of being the one that has to hit up people and never be the person you want to hang out with first?
>>34650518I'm already sick and tired of you after reading one of your posts, I can only imagine what it must be like to try and have fun at a party when you're there
>>34650530https://youtu.be/paq-ECNWqKQ?is=Buil8uHms-EU4Ribliterally, actually, exactly me at my own story
>>34650540not clicking that
>>34650544it's a hyena from lion king laughing too loud and disturbing the chill vibei feel like you'd get it
>>34650553yeah, that sounds about right
