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Im in a country that is ilegal to abort, how can i abort i dont want to have kids, im thinking about suicide, but im too afraid of dying, can please someone help me
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>>32231174
>Plus, no one shames people for thinking of suicide, literally the opposite, they try to understand them and help them
That's not been my experience. I opened up about it and got locked up in a mental ward. If they wanted to help, they would make it possible to seek IRL help with guarantees of no physical confinement and loss of freedom.
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>>32231510
>That's not been my experience. I opened up about it and got locked up in a mental ward.
Which country? Because mental health guidelines vary from nation to nation. Whatever country it is, it must have shit mental healthcare. Where I live, they will only institutionalise you or make intervention if, and only if:
>You tell them you are planning on suicide. (I.e, you make it clear that sometime after the therapy visit later in the week or month you will make an attempt).

If you just say you feel suicidal or made attempts in the (past), you do not get put into a mental ward nor should you ever.

And same goes for
>Planning to kill someone
If you mention you felt like killing in the past, or have thoughts of killing, nothing happens. Tell them you want to kill someone and have a plan for it, then it’s mental ward or police visit.


If you got put in a mental ward and you didn’t show any active plans for either, then your mental health authorities fucking failed you and should be ashamed and I’m sorry you got warded.
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>If you just say you feel suicidal or made attempts in the (past), you do not get put into a mental ward nor should you ever.
Yeah, I said I felt suicidal and was forced into a psych ward despite expressing will not to go. I did not mention a plan. They also lied about how long I'll be staying there.
They taught me that if I seek mental health I will be put in prison. That's very helpful.
The point is, you cannot simultaneously be moral and rational, believe it's morally ok to force new sentient beings into existence but not ok for them to choose to opt out of existence.
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>>32231575
>Yeah, I said I felt suicidal and was forced into a psych ward despite expressing will not to go. I did not mention a plan. They also lied about how long I'll be staying there.

I hope to God that your country has easy channels for you to sue whatever practice or psychiatrist into the dirt. I’m serious - I’m planning on becoming a mental health professional myself, and I would enjoy seeing the career therapists and pseudointellectual quacks that commit malpractice of the psychiatric craft to be ruined for shit like what they pulled with you. Do consider reading up on their guidelines on suicide prevention in your area, and if you spot that they breached their own guideline, find a good lawyer and fuck them up good and proper. You’ll be doing the collective practice of psychiatry a massive favour, as well as yourself if there is a good payout of compensation.
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>>32225481
Just put it up for adoption. Or ingest some chemicals. I am sure there are countless guides for it online.

Also you made this up to bait yous

30 yo, gay. Top 5% income bracket, homeowner, hobbies include:
- doing sports
- learning foreign languages
- cooking
- managing porn collection
- smoking weed
- going to music events
What I'm saying is, I have an array of hobbies that both develop me as a person, and also provide some fun. Looks are 5/10, maybe 6 if I dress well but I don't. I think that I am a valuable person. My biggest problem is the fact that I am a huge non-conformist, which is also a thing I cherish and don't want to lose. I've been told by many people that I am different from others, and that matches my experience.

How can I constructively approach dating? As in, what can I do to leverage my strong points to get a suitable partner? Things I have tried:
1. Online dating -> the most available, especially for gay men, but the way apps are made, especially nowadays, is that they hijack your brain and you end up looking for the most attractive partner, which is not actually the best relationship material
2. Going to IRL gay spaces -> it's mostly old people
3. Going to IRL non-gay spaces -> it's mostly straight people, also normies
4. Extending my social network hoping that a friend of a friend would be a date -> shit doesn't fucking work because I don't enjoy being social. I did learn the social skills to get into groups, but oh my god is that exhausting and just not worth it


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>>32230574
I'm not gay but I've been around gay dudes. You people never seem to have a problem getting guys it seems. At least if you are obviously gay. the ones that aren't seem to maybe struggle without grindr. I don't know, not very helpful I know. Do you live in a big city?
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>>32230574
If you are okay with handjobs only and are willing to pay for everything I am fine becoming your stay at home straight twink. Not many expenses beyond the very basics. Trust me bro, it's a steal!
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>>32230574
Learn to write
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>>32230707
>At least if you are obviously gay. the ones that aren't seem to maybe struggle without grindr.
Yeah I do not look gay at all.
I wouldn't call my city big, but it's a very progressive one, and local cultural center. We have a gay sauna I used to frequent.

>>32230813
Kek the budget gay version of trophy wife
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>>32230574
>managing porn collection
can this really be considered a hobby lmao

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How do I start dating in my 30s? I don't have any experience with women, honestly no idea where to start.
I've tried online dating, but couldn't even get one date.
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>>32230448
Classic Schooler W.
He might be a little schizo but he's not wrong!
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>>32231537
poo in loo
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>>32231526
Now that you got proven to be objectivly wrong, you cannot even imagine how to dissaprove my facts so you have try repeat back my own arguments. Pathetic. You are literelly braindead and had to copy paste my argument from >>32231505 where I called you bot.
The conversation goes in a circle because you bring up some copy pasted bullshit from reddit, you get BTFO and then repeat back the same bullshit and get BTFO in the same way
>>32231536
The whole image is just facts.
Its hilarious you think writing down all the ways in which you're wrong, and then making up some strawmens

if you were really right, we'd live in a world with millions of books of exact conversations between men and women and absolutely no incels and never have a single "how to meet women" thread ever because everyone would have them

the fact there are any incels proves you and your spam of locations is objectively wrong and I am objectively right

and then you springle in all these IT terms just to further proof you are some autistic retard with no idea how people behave or bond.
you're just malding that someone doesnt want to shill your crypto scam website as happily as redditors do it.
you're just a retarded autistic moron mad that the only normal person you ever interact with thinks you're a retard and proves you dont know how to meet women.


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>>32231561
>you're just some indian incel
Usually people talking about projection are just talking nonsense but in this case...
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>>32231571
what are you talking about you retard
you're the one obsessed with harassing strangers and repeating internet spam (location names)
indians are the only retards who thinks harassing random people is how people form relationships
you should all be killed, inferior race who has no idea how human bonding works

you couldnt even imagine how to prove me wrong so AGAIN you copy pasted >>32230714 my debunking of you from previous in the thread

your whole race cannot think on its own, cannot meet or talk to women in real society, just copypasting and being retarded and seething at normal well established people explaining to you how to be normal. kill yourself and take out as many of your race as possible with you.

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I wanna fuck off and ride trains and scavenge and shit. What’s the most important stuff to know
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>>32230093
The most important fact to know is that you will be hungry, cold, tired, and lonely the entire time
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>>32230093
why are you romanticizing that lifestyle? did you watch 1 heavily edited video of some youtube retard doing it and think it's like that all the time?
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watch into the wild first
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>>32230093
How to find access to large amounts of safe food and water? (food banks and food stamps only go so far.)

How to make shelter from wind/cold and heat. (mostly wind/cold cause of night).

Light, and fire tools. Ferro rod and knife help.

Know how and when to run and hide.
If you run into police of have random public people (like strong adult/young adult - men) come near you. Or WILD animals?(that might be dangerous for humans)

How to kill and gut and cook wild animals (that are not dangerous)?

I'm sure you could think of a list of things to try to prepare for.
But maybe keep it simple. I'm not sure how much a compass or some random outdoor tool helps (maybe just multi tool with big strong knife, and ferro rod.)
But as I said you could find a list and get more.

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>>32231564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq-Ym8qq7AE&ab_channel=WayPointSurvival

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Shopping for clothes online.

Dumb or stupid?
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>>32229357
I like getting tshirts of bands off bandcamp.
Then jeans my mom gets me from Costco.
Imagine not having your mother get clothes for you, hahaha.
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You'll lose a lot of money.
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>>32229357
I shop online for clothes sometimes. It sucks when something doesnt fit right. I've definitely had it go the other way and purchased some great clothes though. Mainly just with jeans though. Shirts seem to vary too much in how they fit and I'd honestly suggest shopping for shirts in person if you can.
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>>32229579
>Imagine not having your mother get clothes for you, hahaha.
Learn to buy your own clothes
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>>32229357
i buy most of my clothes online because everything in retail shops is bland normieslop and thrift shops are terrible unless you're broke and dont care how your clothes look.

as other posters have said, you will probably end up returning a lot of clothes and losing money from that, even if you buy the right size and measure to their sizing chart sometimes they just dont fit right, especially if you buy from other countires.

but id say its definitely the way to go if you're trying to improve your style, most men nowadays just wear some random fast fashion shit from uniqlo or H&M so its easy to mog them just by buying nice stylish clothes online

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My friend keeps calling me a groomer, even though I know I'm not. (Context : he told me to message a 12 year old a song with samples he sent me of her that I didn't know were from her and she sent me a pornographic drawing. Nothing even that rough just a shitty ass drawing with 2 people naked not even touching.) I don't want HIM of all people to destroy my life so what do I do here?
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>>32230834
Don't message 12 year olds

how fucking hard is that
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>>32230916
He didn't tell me she was 12
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>>32230834
>My friend
>I don't want HIM of all people to destroy my life so what do I do here?
bro???
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>>32230834
The 12 year old is the groomer, not you. Tell your friend that, then tell him to fuck off.
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>>32230834
>>32230916
Don't ever listen to Americans

They get pissed off for little shit like this but then they go and mutilate their children genitals

If you want to chat and have literal teen friends that's perfectly fine, just don't groom them.
I'm 27 and my wifey 19

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I genuine want to know the thought process of going out of your way to change your daily routine just to see somebody you used to talk to

I broke things off with this girl two years ago and starting the weekend after the breakup, I see her when I go to the gym at least once a week

I’ve seen her drive past my house, I’ve seen her around town, the crazy thing is there has to be times where I don’t see her, but she’s still there, meaning she is investing significant time JUST TO SEE ME. But I don’t understand what the point of this is? Why not just communicate and if you hear something you don’t like, you’re free. You can move on. You can let go and get closure.

What does this type of watching behavior accomplish? Any thoughts would be appreciated
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>>32230801
Did you ask her?

Probably it's not particularly rational. Was it a bad breakup?
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>>32230882

Yeah she called out of work a week after it ended. She also has social anxiety and attachment issues

I tried my best to accommodate, but she just wasn’t expressing how she felt about me (very strongly) in a positive or healthy manner. I was hoping she’d reach out and realize what she did wrong (I made it clear in the past) but instead she rather stalk and watch me from afar for two years…
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>>32230898
>>32230801
Maybe she just wants you to to try to go talk to her in person instead? Dunno.
Change to a different gym asap/immediately op.
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go to the police
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>>32230801
I don't stalk this guy I have a crush on who rejected me but I do accidentally run into him a decent amount. We live in the same town and go to the same school. Sometimes I wonder if he thinks I'm stalking him, though I'm not, I don't follow him on social media or text him. Is she working out at the gym or is she "just there"? If you both live in the same area it may be more coincidental than you think.

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Girls want to have sex just not with you
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>>32231439
But my mommy says im a very handsome young man!
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>>32231439
Girlsh want have sex jus not wit you*

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I want to become an actor, not like in Hollywood or anything I just want to do small stuff like ads or TV shows. I did drama in high school and was in our school's play of Beauty and the Beast but beyond that I have zero professional acting experience. I got an email that was like "We're looking for males aged 18-30 to star in an ad for a pokemon mobile game" and I was like cool I could do that but when I tried to apply for it, it took me to this website where you have to pay a subscription. Seemed like a scam to me. I think I'd be decent at it and I think I'm decent looking enough for TV, I just don't know the right avenues to go down.
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try finding an agent
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>search "casting calls" in whatever city you live
>go to them
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You basically need connections in the industry. Just like everything else in life.

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First child will be here soon. I don't know what to do about vaccination. Safe and effective? SIDS and autism? It seems like so much to dump into a tiny baby so quickly. I'm curious to see what /fit/ thinks.
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>>32230893
yes, where is your definitive smoking gun link that the vaccines cause autism? correlation does not necessarily equal causation...you do know that right?
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>>32230913
We know for a fact that heavy metals damage the brain and we also know that your average vaccines contain heavy metals in the form of aluminum adjuvant, some with a higher concentration of aluminum than others (like Gardasil, the HPV vaccine). Several vaccines given in quick succession to anyone will inevitably result in a high concentration of aluminum passing from the muscle to the brain where they cannot be filtered by the body and cause damage and long-term inflammation, and in somebody in their formative years this is naturally going to ruin their normal development and create the worthless autists we're burdened with now. I'm sure vaccines aren't the only environmental factor but they're a major one that is overlooked because we've been given the falsehood that cutthroat pharmaceutical companies are generous humanitarians specifically when it comes to chemicals squeezed into a syringe and injected into human beings' arms and nothing else.

Aside from that, we have numerous documented cases of this happening. The case of Hannah Poling is one of the most well-known.
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>>32231110
>Several vaccines given in quick succession to anyone will inevitably result in a high concentration of aluminum passing from the muscle to the brain where they cannot be filtered by the body and cause damage and long-term inflammation, and in somebody in their formative years this is naturally going to ruin their normal development and create the worthless autists we're burdened with now.
again...where is your source that proves this?
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>>32231197
He's just some faggot whose either shitposting or fell for some shit some other faggot on the Internet said and now thinks he knows more about medicine than doctors. On the off chance he provides a source it'll be some blog from another faggot who just made it up
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>>32231265
yeah i know, i just wanted him to erupt and start namecalling and lose the argument. they always do when you keep pressing them on a source. getting asked for one is like their kryptonite.

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I'll go first
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>>32212230
Oh, he's a wog? That explains so much.
>>32213752
>says I'm missing his point.
You had a point beyond school will magically get you laid? Because all you care about is getting women.
This is more for other people than you, since judging by the way you type there's something fundamentally unlikeable about you that will never be fixed. I can tell from the way you type that in real life you give off a quiet serial killer type of vibe. The type of vibe where your neighbors won't act shocked if they find out you're in jail for raping someone.
Now, the rest of you, the ones with some degree of self-awareness, should find some way to get rid of that aura. Its what's keeping you back, much in the same way you can spot an AGP a mile off. Remember, other people don't think that much about you if they don't know you, they think about their own shit.
I presume most people here are intelligent enough to recognize their own failings but can't fix them. So simply take those, and search elsewhere for them. If nothing else, you can observe people in real life. Because presumably you're aware that you have to actually go out and talk to someone at some point. People who fall into your lap in your house have fallen from the ceiling, and that means you'll have many broken bones.
>>32219120
Events want more people as much as you want to meet more people. That said, try looking in local papers or community centers. You could always try conventions, but that's not quite oriented towards meeting people as other events.
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>>32229064
Will probably partake in some form. Feel like I can't reasonably do the drop everything for a week.
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>>32228804
If you had that kind of willpower you didn't need the method to begin with
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Forgot the book
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>>32231450
The Manual - A Philosopher's Guide To Life, a bunch of quotations of Epictetus

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What are some tough conversations I should have with my gf before proposing to her?
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>>32229632
She'll probably do the who Jodie arias thing. Many such cases or less worse.
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>>32226473
Talk about boundaries with the opposite sex. IE don't talk to the opposite sex unless I am present. Same goes both ways.
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>>32226473
I see people talking about kids, money, etc... but you have to have the sex talk. Make it clear that a fulfilling, intimate sexual relationship is necessary to make the marriage work. Not starfish sex, not a bored-look-on-her-face blow job and not a "hurry up" PIV sex. You are going to promise monogamy, but not chastity.
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>>32226473
Paternity test.
What should be a really simple
"Yeah I like 80% trust you not to cuck me but I'm not gonna yolo that last 20%"
"Not ideal but reasonable"
Becomes this massive fucking shit test where the girl wants the option to cuck you and not be held accountable, but phrased in a muh feelings way, because even she can't admit that her feelings can drift.
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>>32226473
why frog sad

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will igetbulliedin themidwest forbeing italian
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Where in the midwest? There's a big difference between Chicago and rural Indiana, for example.
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>>32228050
This thread again, eh OP? As with the last three or four times, no, you're not going to get bullied for being Italian. There are people in the US with a hate-on for the hispanics coming across the border or the Basketball Americans crowd but the days of treating Irish and Italians as second-class citizens are generally long behind us.
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>>32228539
proof?
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>>32230741
The intentions of other people before they do anything isn't really something that can be objectively proven, OP. You would have to come here and then be bullied or not bullied to know for sure whether or not you're going to be bullied, since there's no way to account for the actions of free actors before they've acted. That said, you asked, so take the word of one of the natives - nobody here gives a shit about Italians anymore, and the few people old enough to care are far too old to bully you. They might say something unkind but that's about as bad as its going to get.

America's racial issues have two targets in the modern day - hispanics and blacks. Those are the minority populations people care about now because those are the minority populations that have a tangible impact on peoples' lives and livelihoods. Once upon a time that was the flood of Italian and Irish immigrants sucking up jobs and housing, which is where that unkind attitude came from, but that was 150 years ago and the only people left alive with those attitudes at this point are people who inherited those feelings from their great-great-grandparents before they passed. Nobody alive in America today has ever had to contend with the Irish or the Italians being anything more than a minor and regional nuisance, and its threats to lives and livelihoods that actually matter to people beyond the most shallow degrees.
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>>32228050
If you're no in a city with lots of goombahs they'll just break their jaws trying to pronounce your name
then they'll try to be friends
just be on the look out for a stealth ranch dressing attack

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My girlfriend left me two months ago "because of my politics", despite me going out of my way to never mention anything political, and so "she could focus on her career", despite the fact she literally just quit her job and I see her constantly playing games on steam, and it's ruined my life. I can't get anything done and I have little will to do anything anymore. I recently got addicted to a shitty mmo last week to pass the time because I'm just swiping on apps min-maxing them otherwise, both of which I realize is very unhealthy. I've been going on dates with random dating app women pretty frequently but it's always empty and hollow. Every single woman I meet doesn't spark any joy. I thought it was a me thing considering the break up probably changing my perspective but I recently saw my childhood girlfriend for the first time in almost ten years out of happenstance and her mannerisms made me happy, if not a little melancholic, meaning that it's just other women being uninteresting whores, or at least it's an issue with the one's I'm managing to get dates with. Life has lost a lot of it's meaning for me and my short and long term goals both feel significantly harder and pointless now. I don't know what to do.
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She was bored/cheating on you and told you politics.
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>>32230872
There's literally videos online of attractive people getting matches and going on dates on youtube RIGHT NOW that prove you wrong. Hell, even if you think they're all actors the whole chadfishing concept directly proves women can be interested in men on dating apps. Unironically go take your meds.
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>>32231014
yeah and none of them are on 4chan, if you were a supermodel or actor then you wouldn't be here meaning you're lying

chadfishing just directly proves that it is impossible for an average person to ever even have their account seen by a woman, not even talking about being allowed to send them messeges
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>>32231031
Yeah nobody on 4chan has never gotten laid off of a dating app that's a silly statement. You need to stop projecting so much man.
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>>32229751

You're an idiot. Stop trying to date right now, man up and realise it's going to take some time to get over your previous relationship. 8 weeks isn't enough. It might take you 6 months to a year to get over it. That's normal, healthy and perfectly ok.

Trying to rebound isn't healthy and doesn't respect the person you're trying to rebound with.

>> addicted to an mmo

Do you work? Like a real job not flipping burgers or some other shit meant for teenagers.

No? Maybe put your energy into getting a job then.

Yes? Maybe put the time into your job like a real man. Put in the overtime and extra work to progress your career while you process the end of your relationship

>> politics

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Got my first gf at 25 (late bloomer) and recently she disclosed to me her count is 28 at 22. Some boys, some girls etc

Now obviously as a former incel I can’t really be picky but I was shook, and I asked her if she was joking. And she said that hers is “relatively low” compared to her friends, and shockingly low compared to the average college girl in Toronto (she said most were in freshman and sophomore year)
Now, to me it seems like it’s fucking high regwrdless right?
I’m being gaslit into thinking this isn’t slutty right?

Now I’ll admit I spent 15-24 as an incel so my perception is obviously skewered, but to me 28 is insanely high. Idk, especially in 2 years

Am I being too naive and just have to accept this? Mine is 1 btw
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>>32228047
>>32231011
If you're ok with more than 0, you are a cuck and deserve to be killed. If you are ok with 1 man having fucked your woman before you met her or any other time, you are a cuck and no different than a weakling who would accept a 2000 bodycount or an adulterer or watch his wife cheat.

Some whore will ruin your life like you deserve.
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>>32231309
So you're now imagining some random shmuck taking the girl you're in love with's first time and you're still fine with it... Hey, respect to you man. I couldn't do it.
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>>32231357
That may be because you're normal. No man before the 60s did either unless he was divorced. I don't think you guys have any concept of the world before your births.
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OP don't get fooled, 28 is definitely high enough that she can freely be called a hoe. Being bothered by this is pretty fucking reasonable. If her friends are worse, buddy, they're prostitutes. Do not entertain anyone who says otherwise.
It's normal for a woman that age to have been in a few relationships but no, not that sort of number. No way Jose. You're getting fucked with and being like you said, a former incel, you're vulnerable there.
By the by don't force yourself to like this either because you're generally unsuccessful. You have every right to be disgusted by it.
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>>32231350
>>32231357
You being obsessed by my life to a point of physical threats tells more about you kek. Genuinely hope you’ll snap out of it.

>>32231393
>marry only virgins
>or
>just stay single because of my old world
>but muh birthrates tho
>but muh bootstraps!!
How are you even on the internet and not even see the implications of the internet itself?


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