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>What is /htgwg/?
How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?
These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice
Context is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/

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>>34147993
I'm a huge social bum that will be making my dating profile really soon, but I have seen stories like this many times, to the point where I am thinking I should constantly trying to get as many dates with different girls as possible. Keep trying to match with others even if you have a date planned. Catch a wide net and date different girls, even if it is every other day or something. Seems many flake or find someone else or some other stupid excuse they will have to ghost you which perpetually wastes the mans time.
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>>34144477
You unironically need to do more. Invoke more emotion, more flirting and more confidence. I struggle because girls I'm so-so about I escalate perfectly cause I don't really care. Girls that I actually vibe with, I tend to play it more say, which ends up resulting in no-spark. It's something I'm working on.

Over my years of dating, I've noticed that the more bold I am from the get-go, the more success I have.

Meet them at location, ALWAYS go for a hug (no side hug), ALWAYS say "wow you look amazing in this outfit", ALWAYS grab their hand and spin them around, try to keep the date somewhat high energy or at least positive, invite them back to your place (optional kiss beforehand), hook up.

Think about the times you've went out on a date, were absolutely unimpressed and wanted to go home. Imagine that is how your dates felt during your date and followed up with a "no spark" text.

Women need to feel something. If you act like a low energy interviewer, of course there is no spark.
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Is it based to ask women who dont put out if they're demisexual?
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>>34148809
>>34149251
Here's some things I've figured out after going down that angle myself
>multiple dating apps are mandatory. The odds are not in your favor so you need volume instead. I started with just Hinge to practice on but I'm planning to ramp it up this year
>have pretty lax standards for what you consider nerd stuff. Even laxer than you think. You're investing, not cashing out. Just don't waste swipes on people you're obviously incompatible with
>you probably won't get a girlfriend directly by going to a con, but mentioning going to cons on your dating profile could buff your appeal
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>>34151266
Demisexuality and sapiosexuality are memes. Sure, lots of women want emotional connection before sleeping with a guy and they find intelligent men attractive, but it's not a separate sexuality, same way as I'm not boobsexual or goodheadsexual

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am i correct in thinking that publicly accusing a successful, self-made man of rape makes me evil and like the handicapper general from Harrison Bergeron? if u dont know what that is, its a short story about a dystopian future where would-be successful people are pushed down by a female run government (such as the handicapper general) because they have to be “equal” with mediocrity (basically enforced crab mentality).

The guy in question forced it and slapped me in the face bc i wasnt doing what he wanted but i was already in his room and we were both drunk, so i dont know if its rape or not. i only did the accusing because i have a bf and he told me to “make it public” which i hated the idea of, it should be private business and i already hated the effect metoo had on young men. i only agreed to do it under the logic of “im doing this out of loyalty and that guy cant continue to be so successful while my bf isnt” which is literally the logic of the handicapper general. i realized immediately after you should never push someone down to lift another up, and its true evil to ruin lives intentionally no matter what but especially for something done while drunk. i personally didn’t want revenge at all and didnt need it because i alrdy left the situation. i hate myself so much i have no investment in myself anymore and am persistently wishing i wasnt born and have no motivation to do anything, because ive betrayed my own beliefs so completely and utterly. it would be one thing if this guy was a hated nobody but he was someone who i watched bring many people happiness, more than i ever have.

am i finding reasons to hate myself or am i right i thinking this? should i give up on myself and do a bunch of drugs till i cant remember anything, or focus on living to the ideals i believe in and helping others to fix my mistake?
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>>34149425
>The guy in question forced it and slapped me in the face bc i wasnt doing what he wanted but i was already in his room and we were both drunk, so i dont know if its rape or not.
Tldr
If you don't even know if it's rape or not then why are you already trying to create a slander campaign
If it's rape sure
If you don't even know? And you also don't seem to care either? Then it sounds like your bf is just jealous ass saboteur rather than any actual motive of justice correction
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>>34149425
You would not be exposing as much as accusing.
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>>34149485
Anon, your image is 100% false.
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>>34149425
If you didn't want it, it's rape
If he used violence, it's rape
If you were drunk, it's rape
If it's rape, he is a rapist
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>>34151574
Lost me at the drunk part.

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I'm completely stuck on what language I should learn. I'm stuck between Latin, Russian, and German. I'm interested in Latin because I'm a Catholic and I would like to read the Bible in catholic. I'm interested in Russian because I love reading Dostoevsky and I already know the Cryrillic alphabet. I like to listen to Russian songs too. I'm interested in German because I think it would be nice to travel to there sometime and I have already book about German but I haven't read it much. Any advice?
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>>34151306
Learning a language is hard. Going through that effort just to read a book seems wasteful. So choose the language that will be the most useful outside that one book. Do you like Soviet cinema? Do you like German TV? Do you want to read Roman philosophers or history? Do you want to sing Wagner? Gregorian chants?

And it should be noted that the Bible is mostly written in ancient Hebrew and Aramaic. The Latin new testament is itself a translation.
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>>34151306
Not to further muddy the waters for you, but if the most appealing angle for you is biblical scholarship, you might want to consider Koine Greek.

Aside from that, I think that the first post was the best post in this thread.
You should consider what benefits these languages should bring you outside of being able to read books in their original languages.
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>>34151306
Uzbek-Turkic

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How do I learn to love myself and stop denying myself actual justifications to defend myself and give my actions proper merit because my mind says that I’m just making weak excuses? Everytime my actions are questioned, I feel guilty and back down instead of explaining my rationale or perspective because it feels like anything even implying a contradiction is inappropriate and wrong. I feel like I have to hide my true feelings to validate others and often feel misunderstood, but I don’t want to correct people’s assumptions about me.
It always feels like I never say the right thing or my response is never satisfactory. I feel like it’s not even my fault because the other person seems to just make an assertion and won’t be satisfied if my response is inconsistent. I’m always aware of this because when I talk, I try to be as open-ended and non-accusatory as possible so that I don’t make any assertions or implications about others that would be crossing the line. But even that makes me feel ashamed because I’m really just being too afraid to commit and trying to play to all sides instead of being honest with myself.
I always convince myself that I’m in the wrong with everything, that my actions make no sense even when I know why I do everything I do, and that I should just know what people want of me immediately and that they know my needs best.

This programming feels really hard to beat when you’ve been apathetic and detached your whole life, and you’re told you can do something your way only to be criticized for it but then they get annoyed when you ask how you’re supposed to do something. Like how teachers say there are no dumb questions and then say “you should know this already” and humiliate you the one time you ask a seemingly legitimate question or just want clarification on something and you just feel like a dumbass for even opening your mouth.
It feels like I’ve been conditioned to seek permission before letting myself feel or do anything on my own.

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>be me
>like this girl, bit older but still nice
>make out a bit
>things get pretty heavy
>eventually she tells me shes seeing another guy
>its my coworker
>dont fully believe her but the relationship ends
>remain friends
>ffwd a few months
>randomly she's affectionate again
>making out like before
>got to have sex with her this time
>next day she said her "boyfriend" wants to be exclusive
>same day see my coworker making out with her


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>>34151082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rios_1vmeY
What compels a man to allegedly beat a woman and lie about it?
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>>34151085
Buy an ad you faggot
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>>34151082
>Thinking about anonymously telling his wife hes cheating.
Do it 100% but make sure it's somehow in an anonymous way. The dude might actually hurt or kill you if he finds out you're the one that blew up his life. If you can, also try to make sure this guy isn't going through a divorce or hasn't been given a hall pass by his wife or something.
Also good for you for getting away from that skank. Between making a married man her "exclusive boyfriend" and seeing two men at once, that's a hoe. You don't need hoes in your life, you need a good woman.
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>>34151082
You don't really have any moral validation to expose him for cheating. The closest you got was
>I don't respect cheaters
But you still fucked a girl who you knew had a boyfriend or at least claimed she did.
I'd first suggest being honest with yourself on why you want to do it, it's because he made you feel bad so you want revenge. That's fine as far as I stand, but be honest with yourself, and follow >>34151309
this anon's advice if you decide to do it.

Btw you haven't removed yourself from the situation if you're contemplating how you can fuck up the situation further.
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>>34151082
Why are you angry at HIM? He doesn't owe you anything so he hasn't harmed you

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So, where do I begin?
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>>34150394
First renounce the talmud publicly
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>>34150394
Go ask a rabbi not us
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Get your foreskin amputated
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>>34150394
Go find a rabbi. They will gather a few rabbis together to teach you. There are YT videos that explain this.
>>34150398
This is not even remotely true.
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>>34150394
You can, if you wish, go through a formal conversion process, which involves taking lessons in the religion and culture with a rabbi and a formal ceremony. Or you can just decide to learn about the religion and culture yourself, decide to follow the principles and morality, and live as a Jew.

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>full blooded mexican male who mostly speaks english
>"white passing"
>live around a large jewish community
>they always say shalom when they greet me
How do I tell them this...
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>>34151238
Forgot to emphasize, they think I'm jewish.
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>>34151238
"Shalom" means "peace".
Why would you care what language they are speaking?
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>>34151326
They think I'm jewish and treat me as such...
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Don't tell them, use it to your advantage. Vidrel
https://youtu.be/uGkLjfPWqeI
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>>34151238
In what possible way does this impact negatively on your quality of life?

My gf suffered an acute mental break down (from being overwhelmed by many factors?) on nov 20th. she was incoherent, couldn't sleep, and didn't really eat or drink much for about 1-2 days, I'm not sure I wasn't there. Her mother told me on day 3 when I called her that she's was going to be prescribed sleeping meds and anti depressants to help sedate her. I'm very afraid that the medication shell be on and parental/medical enforced isolation will cause permanent damage or prolonged damage to her., or possibly her forgetting me as her boyfriend entirely. She reached out to me via email where we wrote to each other from 22nd of December to 26th where she abruptly stopped. She wrote lovingly and saying how much she missed and appreciated every time I visited her. I'm assuming her mother restricted further access to me, (she's very controlling of her life, she might have seen me as a bad influence despite me doing everything right, I've never argued with my gf. and I respected her and her daughters wishes and boundaries). Its been 50+ days since I've seen her, I love her deeply, people are telling me to go see her, but her mother is putting firm boundaries on me for her " safety" which I feel Im forced to abide. I don't know much about anti depressants but people tell me terrible thing about them, like permanent brain damage,.or just something that just delays the problem. I'm fearful of what's to come.
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>>34151252
Antidepressants and similar medications may have severely negative effects, but they shouldn't within the span of 50 more or less days. It sounds like you two are in a long distance thing so I'd personally just question why any of this is happening. You say you weren't there but you somehow know or at least think she was incoherent and didn't eat or sleep for days? And your only real defense for yourself as to why the family would restrict access to you is that you never argued with her, that doesn't really make you a good or bad influence from your own perspective.

I have no medical knowledge if you need a disclaimer, I've just been on antidepressants at various points in my life, so I believe it would be an extreme case if they made your gf forget all about you or give her permanent brain damage in such a short amount of time.

Any way you're willing to share more info? Is it long distance? How long have you been together? Has her family always seemed controlling? Has she always seemed unstable?
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Antidepressants don't make others forget people. Most likely the girlfriend doesn't want to see you or is informed the mom of something negative about you and the excuse is the mom.
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>>34151252
>. I don't know much about anti depressants but people tell me terrible thing about them
I think that's all we need to know about the situation. You should let medical decisions be made by medical experts, not by people like yourself.

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I realized around two years ago that one of the only ways to achieve success in life is through having connections. Success largely depends on running into certain people. I unfortunately realized this too late. Since then, I am now only befriending people in the hopes that they would give me something in return (ie jobs, clout, academia, etc). There are people who I hang out with, and buy drinks and gifts for just because I think they are useful to have as friends. I even mark down their birthdays to appear like a good friend who cares about them. I fucking hate living like this and the dishonesty eats me up inside, but it feels like my choices are slim. The idea that you can just apply to a cushy job, or start a cool promising project on your own is a delusion. You need to meet people who already have something going on, and then you need to worm your way into their lives. I also try to never make any of these friends meet each other. College/uni is a great place to enroll in just for this purpose. I am sure some of my fellow zoomers here can relate to this post. Any thoughts?
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Yeah this is completely true and unfortunately is something I am not involved in as a 20 year old NEET living at home. Back in high school I burnt out pretty severely in my academics and began to resent the idea of even going to college as I thought I would suffer the same way I was in high school with the workload and all of the studying. But now at 20 and being completely isolated I started to realize that one of the most important if not the most important part of going to university is to physically be around people of your age and to be in a community where you can socially interact and create long term relationships with people and build networks with them.
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>>34151388
That's cool and all but you shouldn't resent them, you should have fun doing it
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>>34151388
>I am now only befriending people in the hopes that they would give me something in return (ie jobs, clout, academia, etc). There are people who I hang out with, and buy drinks and gifts for just because I think they are useful to have as friends. I even mark down their birthdays to appear like a good friend who cares about them.
How very very sad it must be to be you

How do I cope with this? He always leaned right-centre and I'm not quite a liberal myself, we both make fun of idiots. But he won't admit he's being brainwashed at this point and it's affecting his life. He can't even watch a show with me if the main character is a woman, because "it's propaganda for women to be human and on screen", even if he'd enjoy the story and if the character was a male doing and saying the same thing the woman is, he'd tolerate it. Then he goes on to spew some generic shit about women being emotional and jews ruining the world by letting them vote, as if we lived in a utopia and were heading towards the golden age until women got voting rights.

I was never a feminist and I still am not in the way feminism is today. But I'm disappointed at how limited he is because he's otherwise smart but everybody subjected at the same ideas and thinking over and over will start believing them. I guess I'm mad that I thought he at least saw me as human, with the right to self-govern however badly that is.
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>>34151469
If you have to vote for your rights, then it only proves you never had rights and never will. Asking permission for your rights is the complete opposite of having them. You don't ask for rights and you don't vote for them, you are supposed to take them.

Changes to the law? Good luck because politicians never change laws to reflect the will of votes anymore. The politician will only change laws when they are threatened by collective violence or the smell of uprising. Politicians are creatures that only understand self interest. A 90% majority vote doesn't scare them to change laws, even if you protest they know within 2 weeks everyone gets tired and goes home. Only blood changes their minds unfortunately
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>>34151475
Blood gets spilled meaningfully only in Minecraft, so how do you proceed when not in Minecraft, if you are not given a right? If it's your freedom to exert it but you are blocked? Not voting will do nothing because others will vote and even if nobody votes, parties will vote for their politicians, money will continue changing hands and those on power will continue to crush those underneath in any way
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>>34151477
It means society better install Minecraft and start playing and start it soon. People will only do that once it becomes popular to install the people are organized to create Minecraft servers in their communities. Especially when everyone has access to diamond swords.

Until then a man and woman's job is to create their own private utopia in the form of a household or family and then fight the law at every single turn whenever it overextends into their personal lives.
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>>34149259
I think you suitor explain to him that you think he's being immature.
Imo, it is immature to discredit half the population for petty reasons.
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>>34149259
He had damn well better be great in bed, because I can't see any other reason for you to have anything to do with this idiot.

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Unironic question

Just found out my GF of 1.5 years slept with 3 guys in 24 hours before we were exclusive. Two of them in an MMF threesome.

To be clear, we were dating non-exclusively for like 7 months before making it official. I was playing the field and sleeping with other girls, too.

The other day I randomly asked her what were the most guys she slept with in 24 hours. She responded honestly, saying how on that one girl's trip, she had an MMF threesome one night, and then the next day sex with another dude, so 3 guys in 24 hours.

That girls trip was 4 months into us dating. We were having unprotected sex, l had been taking her on cute romantic dates. FML.

To be fair, I was also hooking up with other girls around then.

Anyway, the next day broke up with her, saying I can't see her as my girlfriend after this. She was shocked, upset, tried to negotiate, begged, pleaded. Said she's happy to take a step back, we don't need to label things, she just doesn't want to lose me. I stood my ground.

Talked to friends and family and they say I overreacted. Say it was stupid of me to ask, and the past is the past.

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>>34150103
>I'm a man and I'm better than a woman because men have to do all of these things in a civilizational collapse that I have no fucking clue how to do
By your own logic you're useless. I don't know what to tell you.
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every girl Ive been with who has actually liked me stop talking to the other guys they were because they wanted me and focused on securing me. I am also the same way, once I really liked a girl I literally just dropped the other ones. Maybe she's just a turbo normie though ?
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>>34150094
>>34150233
You vastly underestimate the number of schizo preppers and gun owners in general
Even if he had zero skills he'd still have on average double the upper body strength and greater cardio capacity than a woman.
You're just mad, for some fucking reason, about the reality that women and men are biologically different and this gets reflected in different social roles. I really don't know why you'd be angry on women's behalf, because there are no women on 4chan, so you much just have shriveled testicles or a button dick or something that makes you identify with women more.
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>>34142154
>The other day I randomly asked her what were the most guys she slept with in 24 hours.
Dumb question, you deserve this.
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>>34142266
Right, that is lying about your expectations to yourself and her.
If you truly accepted that you were not exclusive and she had just as much right to play the field as you, it wouldn’t be a shock. You might have suggested an STD panel before unprotected sex just to be responsible, or talked about who else you were fucking.
If you truly accepted that you were not exclusive and couldn’t set terms for how she has sex with people, you would have been upfront about your own boundaries and the hope of eventually being exclusive. That would mean risking rejection if she didn’t want the same thing, but it would have gotten you on the same page if she felt similar.
If you didn’t want some exclusivity, you wouldn’t feel hurt that she didn’t read your mind. You weren’t willing to admit what you really wanted.
Admitting you resent her for it is a good thing. Honestly. Talk out every stupid train of thought until you run out of them, it doesn’t matter how good or bad. It will help you find clarity. Just don’t fall into the trap of blaming her for your own feelings or it will come up in another situation. And don’t blame yourself for something in the past that bothers you now, you were a different person then. The fact that it bothers you means it matters to you and not perfectly communicating doesn’t mean you made a mistake.
If it’s a deal breaker for you it’s a deal breaker, if your family and friends think that’s dumb they’re entitled to that opinion. Maybe the real issue is that you want to feel special to your GF but don’t know how to ask a girl for it. It’s normal. Deal with your baggage so you can get over it and work with whatever you have going on right now and things will go better with the next GF, or her if you decide to work it out.

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every month my gf’s period is a bit late. When it gets close to the time she expects it, she gets really anxious that she’s pregnant. Every time it sparks an argument about contraception. We only use condoms. I am always very careful, and we have had no issues yet. It scares her because it’s completely up to me, so if I mess up she gets pregnant. She insists she gets back on birth control. For most of her teenage years, until 21, she was using Ginet, a birth control and testosterone blocker, prescribed by her doctor to treat acne. It stopped her getting periods. She trusted her doctor who said it was okay. Once I found out (near the start of our relationship, over a year ago) I immediately told her to stop taking it and she did, but now we have this problem of her getting super anxious about pregnancy. She is also on anti-anxiety medication, which she stopped for a bit but is now back on because she has been going through a lot and her anxiety was debilitating. It’s still a big problem, she repeats questions to me over and over to make sure I’m honest about my answer, she checks her drink bottle isn’t leaking in her bag constantly, and is always worried she forgot to lock the car or front door. She is convinced that some form of contraception other than condoms is a necessity, and won’t have any negative effects on her health or the health of any future pregnancy. It seems obvious to me that altering hormones is a bad idea, but she is not convinced and thinks I’m being selfish and not taking her feelings seriously. Clearly nothing I say can convince her, but once she gets her period she stops bringing it up and we go back to normal. How do I stop her worrying so much without caving and letting her doctor make her infertile by modifying her hormones?
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>>34150354
>>34150375
>>34150382
I was trying to be open-minded and consider your position, but you've so far given no evidence to support your position and instead relied entirely on attacking my skepticism with the argument that "all the doctors opinions are actually a complete 180 on your own". You're clearly getting very agitated, and your continuous use of the "lack of critical thinking" and "gut feelings" labels are starting to look a lot like projection. Give me a study to read, otherwise all I'm getting is "don't you know birth control has been used for millions of years by hunter gatherers? It's actually the healthiest thing, you're just willfully ignorant and using gut instinct". You talk about medical data, so give me some. Do you think trusting you is the kind of thing a critical thinker would do?
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>>34151013
also I never said being pregnant wasn't a health concern, instead I was obviously referring to the fact that she would not be taking birth control to protect her health from pregnancy. She plans on getting pregnant in the future, just not now. The fact that you're focusing on things like this imply that you're arguing in bad faith
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>>34151013
First off, you were talking to two different people. And I'm the one that simply tried to tell you that taking hormonal birth control pills isn't JUST about avoiding pregnancy, so simply using condoms in their stead won't do, because the other (beneficial) effects it has will not be provided by those. That's all.
I admit this is going a bit off-topic, so I'll try to offer some actual advice instead: you said
>She trusted her doctor who said it was okay. Once I found out (near the start of our relationship, over a year ago) I immediately told her to stop taking it and she did
Did you, at any point, try to get a second opinion on this from another doctor? If not, that should've been the first thing you've done. One of two things can happen:
1. The new doctor agrees that the prescription was right, in which case you have to wonder whether the whole medical world is out of touch, or just you
2. They agree with you and prescribe some different pill for her, in which case you are vindicated *somewhat*, but the decision wasn't left to some layperson at the end of the day.
If you did get a second opinion, what did they say?
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>>34150042
>every month my gf’s period is a bit late.
Sorry, what? If it happens *every* month, that just means her cycle is a day or two longer than average and she's always on time.
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>>34150042
>Once I found out (near the start of our relationship, over a year ago) I immediately told her to stop taking it

What gave you that right?

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Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate

she gets very immersed into media, vidya, books etc to the point that it affects her life. She will say 'let's go out and hunt zombies' or 'lets go on an adventure', i think she knows she won't find zombies irl but she'll explore crap outdoors like she's about to find treasures or come across unspeakable dangers. This is the good part i think but she often gets very depressed because of ordinary life not being "magical" and she wants to escape it. she never said she's suicidal directly though. Should I be worries, is this normal? sounds more like autism or schizo?
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>>34151457
>is this normal?
No, but I think it's just a sign of someone who refuses to grow up rather than anything more sinister.

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I am a porn addict.
I do porn every day. The longest I've lasted without porn is about a week. I know it's an addiction because a trademark feature of porn addiction is when you start becoming decentralized and seek out more depraved shit. That's me.

I hate it. I want to live a life free of porn. I hate being horny, and treating other humans like sacks of meat.

Please give me some advice for quitting porn, staying chaste, not being horny, etc.

I've jerked it enough for a lifetime. If I could spend the rest of 2026 no-fap, I'd be proud of myself. And then I'd go 10 years if I could.
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I’m right there with you. It has a super negative effect on my relationship but I still go back to it.
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>>34151490
>decentralized
desensitized*

>>34151493
Damn, that's another trademark feature of porn addiction. If I had a relationship, I'm sure it'd be hurting mine too.
Quitting is possible bro let's keep hope in our hearts.


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