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When it comes to making friends, there is one person you want to avoid making friends w/: The Insecure Friend
An insecure friend usually does not own up to their feelings of low self-esteem and instead of seeking help regarding those feelings they decide to take it out on others by projecting their insecurities. This could be in the form of criticizing others frequently (especially you), they want to put others down to their level to cope. An insecure friend constantly seeks external validation, gets passive-aggressive when that is not met.

An insecure friend compares themselves to others. An insecure friend loves to boast about themselves because deep down they don't believe in intrinsic validation. An insecure friend will throw you under the bus in group interactions.

Having an insecure friend is one of the most draining experiences, I am still recovering from the fact they were not my friends at all. Don't do that mistake, as soon as you notice signs, drop them.
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>>34055942
what else did this "friend" do to you?
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>>34055538
OP here
Another few ones to note
>Copying off your fashion style or personality
It seems flattering at first but it really reflects insecurity above all else.
>Asking for your input
Sometimes they will ask for your opinion on things, even when it is not necessary. It is because they don't have enough confidence to reassure themselves.
>Backhanded compliments
This just reflects a condescending attitude.
>Peer pressure
Sometimes they will pressure you into doing things like drugs or fighting.
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>>34055538
just came out of a "friendship" with a girl like that. we met online, played videogames and found out we shared a bunch of very niche interests, so of course I expressed my feelings, but she just went cold... I thought she was totally in the right of doing that so we split ways. some months later we started talking again much more but then she began with these "shit tests" that women do, y'know.

My work requires me to be very patient with people so ragebaiting doesn't really work on me. so she tried doing that, and negging too. I've always been open about my difficulty of making friends around her so of course she would eventually make fun of that too: the needle that broke the camel's back was when she asked me if I was jealous of her for making a new friend so fast (she had recently met a girl on instagram) to which I wholeheartedly replied with "hey that's cool that you got a new friend". she said that the girl was funnier than me, and that I didn't need to be jealous. In a state of disbelief I just ghosted her, and a week later here I am. she sent some more messages asking if I stopped liking her or whatever but I just left those on read. honestly I feel relieved and I honestly would never wish this experience on any person I care about.
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>>34056003
> It is because they don't have enough confidence to reassure themselves.

Some people are like that but are not actually jerks or trying to put you down. If someone is being honest and humble about asking for help, I’m happy to help them.
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I was in a friend group that made a chat in disc called "no __anon__ zone" and I felt really ostracized from the group as a whole once I brought it up and told them how it felt and they just laughed it off as a joke..
>Haven't heard or seen them in a year and a half

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I'm seeing someone and she's kind of bitch. I love her but I kind of hate her too. Women are expensive, annoying, moody, selfish and very demanding
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Women are fucking insane
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I don't think they're not "worth the trouble", but god damn, 9 out of 10 couples around me are miserable
Coming out of an abusive relationship, I just can't imagine dating again, and I'm really starting to question this societal pressure to find your "other half". Like, what the fuck, love should not take this much work.
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>>34057573
How could their dads allow it?

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Why did I end up a kissless dateless handholdless virgin at 30 years old, when every single other man I've ever known in my life didn't?
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>>34058456
>At any given moment you could have made moves to better your chances of meeting women? At 21, you didn't stop to think that maybe you should be meeting girls your own age because you will never be 21 again?
How exactly am I supposed to "make moves" on women when they show literally 0 signs of romantic interest in me?

>Did you expect women to just appear out of thin air and develop relationships with you?
No. I went out and met women. Countless women. Literally 100s if not thousands of women that I met since the age of 16. Not a single one of them ever showed any romantic interest in me. What am I supposed to do about that? You can't ever win if you're not given any chances to play.
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>>34058457
>when they show literally 0 signs of romantic interest in me?
you were supposed to learn from your interactions and changed aspects about yourself to have better results every time (whether it be fitness, fashion, socializing skills, etc).
>Literally 100s if not thousands of women that I met since the age of 16. Not a single one of them ever showed any romantic interest in me.
quit lying to yourself. You would have learned how to interact with women after a few. Maybe this is why you dont get your peepee touched by them- because you are a loser. You learned that certain aspects of your personality sucks and is a bummer to be around, yet you want to change nothing about yourself so you can get women. Instead you seethe and cry like some supreme autist that no one woman finds that attractive. Kek. Be open to change and learn what makes you attractive to women. But alas- you might never learn how as you went ten whole ass years without success. Its not for everyone I guess, especially guys who like to be the loser in life instead of work.
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>>34058474
>you were supposed to learn from your interactions and changed aspects about yourself to have better results every time (whether it be fitness, fashion, socializing skills, etc).
I lost a shit ton of weight after the age of 15/16 and have stayed fit and healthy ever since then.
I developed a good fashion sense to the point that I would be regularly complimented on for my clothes (including by women).
I went from being literally friendless at age 16 to having a whole social network by the age of 18 and beyond.
Absolutely none of that did ANYTHING to get me any romantic attention from women.

>quit lying to yourself. You would have learned how to interact with women after a few.
I can interact with women easily, they just don't show any signs of romantic attraction towards me no matter what I do.
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>>34058332
>No they didn't. All my male friends, when I asked them "How did you start dating your GF?", would give me some BS story about how
>>uhhh well, i just went to *insert social event here*, met her, we got talking, and things just happened!
>No effort expended whatsoever. They just spoke to women and completely randomly ended up in a romantic encounter with her without putting in any effort at all.
OK so... how many social events did you attend in the same period to meet women and how many did you approach?
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>>34058499
>OK so... how many social events did you attend in the same period to meet women and how many did you approach?
I attended the same amount, if not more, social events as they did.

One of my friends even remarked that he was "jealous" of me because he thought I was a lot more socially successful, and even more successful with women, than he was. He just assumed because of my public image that I must've been getting lots of girls.

But when I would go to social events, I'd talk to lots of people, and yet women just wouldn't ever display any signs that they were romantically interested in me. They would converse with me, be friendly to me, sometimes even laugh at my jokes, but they would never ever ever flirt with me or show any signs of being into me as anything more than a potential friend.

One of the only times I ever thought a girl at a party might be into me, I spent like an hour or so talking to her on the couch. I got up to grab another drink, and a male friend of mine stopped me to say "Dude, you've got this. She's so into you! Just go for it". I grabbed my drink and went back to the couch. Within 5 minutes she, out of nowhere, told me bluntly that she "had a boyfriend" and so "nothing was going to happen between us". I didn't even make a move whatsoever, and she still rejected me preemptively. I said nothing in response, and just silently got up and left the party instantly and walked home by myself at 1am. One of the most humiliating moments I EVER experienced in my life.

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she realized she fucked up by being seen with a black guy in public and now wants to be a loving girlfriend to a white guy and is pining after me for that role. what should I do? she's a cute athletic brown hair tomboy with a nice fit body but she dated an apehoop player.
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>>34057046
>even considering this
Anon, you literally are disgusted by the fact she was with a negro
Even if you did just fuck her and dump her, you'll still be aware you fucked a girl who fucked (or at least was interested in) a negro

Which we've already learned is a problem for you. Don't go near her. You will only hate yourself.
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>>34057046
It's fascinating how upset this makes you, we all know you are intimidated by the fact she was with a black guy and you feel you can't compete sexually.
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>>34057046
White women who dated blacks should be totally ostracized from society. Zero tolerance for cuckolds.
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>>34057079
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Bro the last bait was actually kinda believable, this is just too obvious now.

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I have this friend from class that I consistently go on runs with in the morning on the beach next to our college. We usually run a couple of miles down at the ass crack of dawn and then back. We run far away from the public access, and it’s early enough that other people usually aren’t out, so it’s pretty peaceful.

Not too long ago, she suggested we go for a swim at our turnaround point. Thought it’d be fun and a nice way to cool off before we do our second leg, I didn’t really think much of it. But when we first did it, she just got completely naked and jumped right in, and I followed suit.

I thought “holy shit, something's going to happen”. But nothing did. She kept her distance and made sure to face away from me when out of the water. But other than that, she has been totally comfortable being this way around me. I think it's odd, but I can't help but continue to do it. We’ve been doing this for the past couple of months until it started to get colder.

Is she playing me? Or am I just being retarted?
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>>34056874
She thinks you’re gay. Rape her.
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>>34057824
woah
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>>34057819
>No, but she made fun of my junk for shrinking up in the cold water
ok you were submissive twice then. she was testing you. you're forever a beta male now
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>>34057863
shit
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>>34056874
I wouldn't worry about it too much OP, women are creatures of emotion and zero rationality. Trying to guess what's going on in her stupid little head full of vagina hormones is just going to make you nuts too. We live in a world where "breathing too loud" is considered an ick. Just enjoy being with a naked girl I guess.

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my life is in the fucking gutter right now. I'm about to fail college, I didn't show up to take any of my finals last week because I'm too scared of human interaction. I work a minimum wage job with a bunch of teenagers. Sometimes people I knew from high school walk in and it's so embarrassing. It makes me want to die. It's obvious to anyone that I'm a failure when compared to anyone else my age. Everyone else already moved on and I'm still living like a child

There's a 17 year old girl that I tried to make my girlfriend, which was one of the most retarded things I've ever done. I did this because people my age are quick to detect how developmentally stunted and maladjusted I am. But it turns out the same is true for everyone regardless of age. The entire foundation of my life is built on shame and humiliation, it's so lonely and debilitating. I need someone in my corner man. Just one person.

All of this is to say that I don't have anything to live for. I don't have any friends, trauma makes it so that I can't socialize, my family situation is fucking terrible, and nothing in life is capable of making me look past all the misery. The return just isn't worth the investment, I don't want to be alive anymore. What can I do to not feel this way?
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>>34053784
you know what the media says: if you are suicidal, you have too much time to think about your life.
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>>34053883
What the fuck is this video?
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>>34057733
My guess is that a Karen went nuclear in a resto and thought filming the staff was would intimidate them.
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>>34053784
>21 and suicidal
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>>34053784
I was literally on government benefits till age 28 and got my first job then
No college
Nothing past failing high school

And now I make roughly enough to be in the top 20% of UK earners

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Ever since the end of college, I’ve become fascinated with having land and living off of it, at least somewhat. I love building things and seeing my own personal progress with my own two eyes. I want to own goats and have a massive garden, perhaps just enough to provide fresh food on top of what I have in storage.Maybe even build my own house with its own electrical grid far away from people but not terribly far in case of an emergency and just to socialize if I want to. I have no debt, other than paying off my truck, and have a moderately sized savings account for my age. Ideally, I’d want to start this prospect in 6-8 years.

It seems like out West is the best option, the East seems too crowded. I’ve also considered Alaska, maybe being a bush pilot to help fund my efforts. I have some boys from college that would absolutely drop everything to help this come to fruition if I, or someone else, committed.

Anyone have any advice?
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>>34057454

Yes it is, anon. I know a guy who has a yuuuge property in the mountains in NorCal, and he got it from helping out a widow for years (she gave it to him)

The land is in a trust and can never be sold. He wants to pass it on to another hippie one day.

I volunteered for him for a matter of weeks in exchange for food and housing. Power was all solar. Hot water and cooking was all propane. You compost your poop using sawdust and organic material. We burned firewood in wood stoves to stay warm. I only worked 5 hours a day, mostly digging trenches to install a gravity-fed spring water system. The idea is to find a high standard of living where all your needs are being met.

The animals all play off each other (the rooster protects the hens, the goat and geese are fucking assholes, the dog alerts you to any intruders, the cats kill rodents, and the cows provide dairy/beef, pigs are great pets but also eat anything and can be eaten)

Richard/Dick Proenneke is known for his proven ability to live off the land, as a builder and survivalist. Watch his movie “Into The Wilderness”
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLws0HH1FSGPBfckT7F5NQf_z6l69lREsL&si=NNY9b3eXYgRa2ONm

Have you heard of Worldpackers? Or Workaway? Or WWOOF? You can get a bit of experience, try it on for size. (Also a great way to get laborers without paying them)


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So i was just bored and i found 4chan, a lot of the posts seem to be very incel like? Its not a criticism but if you guys want like actually want helpful advice about women feel free to ask.. I feel bad that some people are being mislead
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>>34058240
>look, people in social classes tend to stick together
I unfortunately don't see people like me around

>this idea of super rich men picking up poor girls off the street is pretty rare
Don't need to be rich, just lower middle class would give here more comfort than I could provide. It's hard to compete.

>find a woman who doesnt care about all that
Where? How?
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>>34058268
yea, the more i have to work the less I actually I could care about her. You re right. The problem that most of the time, i dont even find 3/5 of the women I see everywhere attractive at all. So thats it, its hard to get into a relationship when I would rather kill myself next to these women than talk with them. I said to her to block me everywhere, which she actually did, but I eventually find out that she unblocked me on Facebook Messenger. I dont know why..
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>>34057981
How do I be less boring?
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>>34058335
JUST BLOCK HER ON MESSENGER AND DONT CHECK BROTHA digging your own grave... good luck though
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>>34058293

>you could try to "fix" like a traumatized girl she might grow dependent on you

That sounds like exactly what I want! Thank you! I love the idea of taking a traumatized girl and making her life a wonderful dream of ignorant bliss where all her adult responsibilities are whisked away by me so she can be free and innocent like a child again (I’m into infantilization.)

> toying with a human being is very serious

I would never toy with the girl I love

> use like an AI girlfriend for these needs or there are clubs for sadists

Absolutely NOT. I want a real girl with real feelings to be mine completely and depend on me ONLY. Why does a girl need anyone else than the one she loves? What kind of whore doesn’t rely on her man alone? I should be her god and she should be my pet because only I would love her the way I would. After all the manipulation would be out of love. There’s no better feeling than going against a girl’s misaligned wishes for her own good. To be the man who saves her from herself and thus secures an eternal place in her heart as her savior and master.

To the point where people are willing to die for you despite being trauma bonded workers
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>>34058096
If you were the man capable of making Despacito popular again, then you could bend the entire world you your will.

Wtf did they do with the captcha. What a bs.

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most seem to think it's too huge or painful

only 1 in 4 women seem to actually enjoy it that large

but i'm no longer having sex before marriage
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>another coping humble brag thread and people fall for it
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>>34055288
would say this is actually pretty standard for both genders, anyone who tells you you’re being picky is a faggot
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I have this problem, eventually found a girl who could take it. You'd think you'd have to find a whale, but actually no, some girls are just built different.

I would, personally, actually quite like a whale, but too late now.
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>>34055586
since you can't seem to figure it out on your own

and uhh idk if you realized but when you're getting deep you're still stimulating the shallow end
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this thread makes me feel blessed to have an average 5 incher although i also have multiple female stalkers which is kind of a pain lol

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Has anyone had any luck talking to random girls on snapchat, 18+ obviously, to date or hook up? I feel like you'd be cutting through all the dating app bullshit and going straight to the source.
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>>34057636
the Asian girls in a heartbeat duh
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>>34054504
snapchat is for hook ups if you don't have experience hooking up it's gonna be very obvious to any girl talking to you
also it's a very shallow place like most dating and hooking up apps so if you're not photogenic and have nice pictures ready to send you might as well not even start
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>>34057636
Bottom. Stacies don't get humanities degrees, they major in communications.
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>>34057636
Top is good if you're looking for a boyfriend with a vagina
If you're looking for a woman, bottom

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How do you level yourself up to a point where you can meet the standart of modern women?
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But I can say you should carry a little dagger around and when you see girl childs you should place it within their carotid arteries.
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>>34057515
How?
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>>34055848
guys, the only requirement in the video was to not be sexist, thats how you level up. i dont get the evolutionary argument though
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>>34057515
>bragging about pulling 29 year old chubby mids
And let me guess, you have tattoos, right?
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some women want sad weird psycho strange outcast reject incels, keep up the hope

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I'm noticing that I am turning into a hateful and resentful person who usually does not let slights or grudges go. I am self aware enough to know that it comes from my retard father beating the shit out of me throughout my childhood and me being a dumb child being too scared to tell other grown ups about this and now I feel like I will NEVER live a fulfilling life if I do not get my revenge in some sort of way.

Now im not gonna do anything stupid or illegal thats going to ruin my life because its not worth it. Luckily for me the old bastard is in his 60s and has type 1 diabetes and has lately been complaining about extremely poor vision and tingling sensations in his feet and arms due to nerve damage needing constant massages of his feet to help with the sensation. I did some research and there are decent odds he will probably get some sort of amputation within my lifetime. Also taking into account the random abcess pocket he got this year on his back near his kidney that he is STILL recovering from 3 months later due to his diabetes slowing the healing down.

I feel kinda guilty that I am enjoying this and want to better myself. I don't want the hatred to consume my life while he is still around, im pretty sure it will be gone when he finally kicks the bucket though due to diabetes.
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>>34056862
I think the path to enlightenment is an endless staircase that requires taking one appropriate step after another, but over time walking up the stairs can become an ingrained habit. Or something.
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>>34056862
Have you ever told anyone sympathetic about the abuse? Just saying it outloud and have it acknowledged can lessen its hold
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>>34056862
What goes around comes around
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This is a normal American parent
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Is it even possible to get one? Every autism related center that is supposed to do evaluation/diagnosis all says they only do kids. The one place that said they would do adults, said that it required specific criteria that I might meet (but they didn't give the whole thing), but they also said it was more money than I can afford right now. I have a relative who told me I should get diagnosed but she won't do it herself because you're not supposed to diagnose family or whatever. What do? Pic Unrelated
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>>34057444
I found one for my wife a few years ago, this was in Texas. I googled "adult autism diagnosis + clinic doctors + my city", found like 5 places
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>>34057273
A diagnosis only serves to render you unemployable in certain fields.
Labels get you nothing. Personal fulfillment is everything.
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>>34057608
Every place in my city that I have called has said they wont assess adults
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>>34057909
I don't really have much of a future for employment anyways, my only options for a career are all stuff that I don't have any interest in. My mom is always saying "Have you thought about [insert random job here]?" And I always reply "no" because I have no interest. So she says "Well what DO you have interest in?" And I say "nothing". But all that leaves me with is Pizza Hut for the rest of my life.
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>>34057273
Do you walk on your toes?

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the other day, someone told me to stop watching porn. i still dont get why desu...
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>>34057204
>you'll be unable to get an erection
im a woman so im already unable to get an erection
>You'll end up looking for more and more extreme stuff
i thought extreme porn only catered to people who are already into that? im a virgin because im not into bdsm and stuff

>>34057553
as far as i can remember, it wasnt you who said that to me.
what YOU told me to do is google James Madison eagle coitus.
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>>34057702
I feel like it's you saying this to me

>what YOU told me to do is google James Madison eagle coitus.

Well yeah, I think American history is important and as a James Madison enthusiast You should be enthralled by this.
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>>34057785
But
>I feel like it's you saying this to me

I meant to not watch porn (which I assume means clicking on nude threads)
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>>34057785
>James Madison enthusiast
that's one way of putting it.
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>>34058124
The other is
>Welcome to my gluck gluck mind palace james


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