In the market for a 12GA shotty, many recommend either Benelli M4, Beretta 1301 for top contenders or if I wanna pay for some bang for the buck the A300.Are there other great options?
>>65269729Rodger that,fellow lazy-ass person! No.
>>65259289i have an a300. i have a couple hundred rounds through. i do not like all the plastic on it but nothing has broken yet. that being said, i have ordered metal replacement parts for the barrel clamp and a few other things. it isn't an m4 and light birdshot isn't happening but this isn't a gun with a 2-3 round tube. buck and slugs run fine, clean every 100/150 rounds. light/medium duty gun. if you want to abuse something, 590a1.
I've been really happy with my SL-5 3-gun (badge-engineered Breda b12i/Benelli m2) but the days of finding them for 5-600 are probably overAnd despite their assurances of a restock of their conventional stocks and the coming of a short LoP stock I've been lurking their storefront for 18 months with no luck so I might have to become an urbino creep
>>65259289>In the market for a 12GA shottyI just bought a Mossberg 990 and now have a hankering for a Savage Renegauge, but not just any one, but the cherry red one for competition.>>65259289
>>65261179i know a few friends with 990s including one that was a special JM model. always had trouble emptying the whole tube during our backyard 3 gun matches
Brave Sir Robin ran away.Bravely ran away away.When danger reared it's ugly head,He bravely turned his tail and fled.Yes, brave Sir Robin turned aboutAnd gallantly he chickened out.Bravely taking to his feet,He beat a very brave retreat.Bravest of the braaaave, Sir Robin!
>>65268130>repeatedly give the finger to two guys and an entire political wing of the dominant empire who are willing, able, and eager to give you a way out of your current fuckup, one which even lets you pretend you were pressured by the US and totally not because you keep fucking up so bad you have no hope of victory>one of those guys owns communications system vital to your war effort and has shittons of contracts with the political faction you snubbed>they turn off the shit you needWhat was the plan?
>>65268366To be fair to the ziggers most of that is likely IV drug abuse.To be unfair to the ziggers picrel
>>65268711US led Sanctions and Shadow fleet seizures have done more to hurt Russia than anything else. Can you regards grow up?
>>65269048BUM TOUCHING FUCKING CRESTS EVERY TIME I DO A SUCCESS THEY DO A DRONES ON IT! WAR CRIME!
>>65271783They are obsessed with the fantasy of marching through Berlin again, aren't they?
They call it a minigun... but it's not very miniature at all.
>>65270351Yes? You didnt learn this in preschool/kindergarten?
>>65270309https://youtu.be/Qsq-zIfXSok
>>65270309That's the joke.
>>65270563>states fact>gets called autisticeven though I'm neurotypical I side with the autists atp
>Pic related >never once seen him with his little Uzi
what's this carry position called?
>>65272031Doggystyle
>>65272004Gravity assisted draw
>>65272004The Charlie Kirk carry.
>>65272004"the grip digs into my love handles when I sit down"
the old self delete while you try to retrieve draw
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>>65271836>ICEyou big retard if you do this
>>65272099Checked, but we are on a thread that doesn't think signing up for service under current geopolitical conditions is big retard. You see, American military personnel used to be seen as heroes. Now you won't even get the same treatment. People see you as wasted tax dollars that could be spent on health care, being used to ignite foreign wars. You're not getting as many people if at all to buy you a coffee while you're in uniform. I doubt people still do that.
>>65272099besides your fear of blacklisting, why exactly? prior 11C btw
>>65272163Nta but ice has a very uncertain future. Say what you will about the actual military, it's at least gonna be there until ZOG collapses.
>>65272167im sure budget cuts are probably gonna happen down the line to please the masses(assuming the pendulum doesn't completely lose its momentum and swing back left), not sure they'd completely get rid of it
Anyone here ever gone to Project Appleseed? Are the appleseed classes good firearms training or just some political tupperware party gimmick?
>>65271485>if you don't have an optic you reach over with your right hand through the carry handle and press the bolt releaseNo you can't, there isn't enough room to get enough of your hand through and then reach the bolt release with your fingers. It's impossible.
>>65272123you must be doing something wrong because i can do it just fine even with the narrower detachable carry handle
>>65272143This anon is right. I just did it on an A2 upper and I have some chubby ass man hands. >>65272123's just dumb or doesn't own guns.
>>65272161>>65272143I have the detachable carry handle, when I reach my hand all the way through I can just only touch the edge of bolt release. I could probably press it just shooting off the bench, but I would be concerned about relying on that when under time pressure since it would require such a fine movement.
>>65272173you must have STUBBY MANLET FINGERS.
Is the Chicom chest rig the grestest chink invention since gunpowder?
>>65270401>>65272058Schutztruppen equipment
>>65270378My favorites are the modern ones made by AWS. Iraqi SWAT used them a lot.
>>65272073
>>65270378mogged by boomerchads hard desu
it’s pretty great, especially if you modify it.
This was Tali. He used to spend hours sitting in bed with me watching TZD compilations, police bodycam shootings, and Paul Harrell's self-defense advice. He was put to sleep last Friday at the age of 21. He was a good cat.Honor him by posting gats and cats
>>65270180Pretty sure Muhammad was a pretty big fan of cats>According to one story, Muhammad had a cat named Muʿizza (Arabic: معزة), whom he found one day to have fallen asleep on his robe while he was preparing for prayer, so he cut the sleeve off to avoid disturbing her
>>65271472Fitting since both cats and Muslims are invasive species.
Took this when I got them and my friend made it into an album cover
>>65259896Chihuahuas are such an underrated dog breed.I wish I could take my dog to work with me.
>>65271842Yeah he made all the difference when working dusk-dawn out on the prairie. Being a lone human pinpoint in all that open space was kind of weird sometimes. For absolutely no reason at all one can become convinced they are being watched. Maybe through a scope ?Even though I knew damn good and well I was 20 miles from even a county road . . .
I'm an early-twenty something who wants to buy a gun because I'm an American and it's my right (also because shooting ranges look fun as hell). Once I start working again either this summer or in the fall I'll have a decent amount of disposable income but not enough to buy gold plated AKs. I like revolvers. They're simple and they look satisfying to handle/fire. Any recommendations for cheap ones that aren't Chinese-produced slop? I live in a blue state and I think we've got red flag laws here for what it's worth but it's still America at the end of the day so I figure I can obtain a gun much easier than most other people living in the developed world.
>>65271125I would definitely go to a gun range and see if any got a good amount of rental guns available. Finger fuck the shit out of the pistols, fire off some rounds with the rentals. Everybody hand feel is different for what works better for them shooting wise. The hardest choice in choosing a firearm is knowing what feels comfortable in your hands. Not all guns are one size fit all and don't even think the recoil from is gonna feel the same for every gun. I tried a Glock, M1911 & a S&W M&P. Loved the feeling of the single stack of the 1911, hated the grip of the Glock and the M&P felt like shit to shoot to me anyways.Got a Canik TP9 as a compromise cause it felt the best for me and also it was on saleThe same goes for rifles & shotguns. Just rent some out and finger fuck on their mechanism & handling Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>65270747Sure, if you like cracked frames
>>65271858>>65271424>>65270425>>65268986This thread is chock full of really solid advice that I'll definitely take to heart when my wallet allows for a trip to my LGS. I can't thank everyone ITT enough for helping me out, the first few replies had me nervous and thinking this would just be endless shitflinging lmfao. I guess another question I have is this: how do people react to you if/when you tell them that you do own guns? Tons of my friends are libshits so desu I wouldn't doubt they may start to see me differently, but I could just be going on about nothing.
Don’t get a piece of shit. And that applies to anything really Buy once, cry once
>>65272150>how do people react to you if/when you tell them that you do own guns?I love in Boise. Everyone open carries out here. Police shoot niggers first and ask questions never. Calicuck transplants are trying to change things though
The G11's problem was not heat, but the complicated mechanism and gas building up in the sealed stock.The solution is make it open-bolt. For good measure make it a constant recoil LMG using plastic links.
>>65271946>steel links for 7.62 = 2 grams each>now infantry can't afford to lug GPMGs. the SAW is the highest level beltfed you're realistically going to getWhy did you use GPMG ammo for the comparison if you then claim that no one will ever carry it either way. You disingenuous fuck.
>>65271956PKMs and Mk48s are both used as SAWs. Stop posting performative seethe and watch some infantry video from Ukraine. Beltfeds are still essential in the green and urban zones, but ain't nobody lugging around tripods and entire crews of 2-3 men to shoot one. They've retvrned to M60.
>>65271967You don't know what a GPMG is. Got it. Filtered.
>>65271895>rightIt's a flawed concept to begin with. All it does is save weight, which matters very little to anyone that isn't a machine gunner. You give up a TON for that weight savings. Without a cartridge, extraction an unfired round is difficult. The ammo is extremely fragile. Comparable ammo to 556 is much larger than 556. What's even the fucking point when weight savings just means they're going to use it as an excuse to pack more gear on the soldier?
>>65271895>direct injected smokeless powder
Why does it get so much shit? The rotation mechanism isn't much more tedious than pump-action and you actually do that *after* spending all your ammo, instead of midway through shooting.
>>65271933~30% heavier than competing semiautomatic shotguns of the time.
People are still salty about getting rekt in Modern Warfare 2. This and the noob tube.
>>65271933
>>65271933Its just a retroactive thing for nerd hipsters. It wasn't that popular in its time because the stock is nasty and all the coolest versions were NFA items, but it gets shat on nowadays because its not as practical as a modern saiga or turkshit AR shotgun; which is obviously a bullshit attitude but niggers always forget that all its mag-fed contemporaries were unreliable dogshit or non-existent prototypes like the CAWS (which to be clear may also have been shit, nobody outside Natick really knows). There's a reason people kept buying the Auto-5 until 1998. If you got timewarped back to the 80s, and for some arbitrary reason you had to use a shotgun to defend yourself, a Striker would not be at all a bad choice.
>>65271933because i didn't get the chance to own one :'(
It turns out the overall shape of the XM8 Rifle was designed by Audi. So how would a gun designed by Ferrari or Lamborghini look like?
>>65270336The one really nice thing that the XM8 had that I wish the army would have adopted was the mounting system for optics and accessories.It was specifically made so that you could zero an optic or attachment, take it off and swap it for another then put the original back on and it would maintain zero. So if you had a magnified optic for daylight you could swap it for a red dot, or a Night vision capable optic. or mount your PEQ-15, zero it and then so long as you reattached it on the same hole it would still be zeroed.
>>65271790doesnt picatinny do that if you use the same slot (the reason why they're numbered)
>>65271955There's still some play in picatinny even if you mount the optic, and especially any rail attachments that is just enough to throw off your zero. You don't notice it inside 100m most of the time but beyond that you'll start missing shots.I had a new private that took 3 trips to the range to qualify, turned out he was taking off his m68 (the aimpoint red dot) to clean his rifle between trips to the range. He's hit the close targets but kept missing 200m 250's and never hit a 300m. once I saw what he was doing we re'zeroed the rifle and the kid shot a 35/40. The XM8 system had it's mounting points built into the handguard and upper receiver and the fitment was much more precise.
>>65271035Second. Was in military sharing equipment with some Asian fellows and since it was one of the guns featured in the video game Activision’s Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare it was something I was highly anticipating. Felt like a big plastic piece of shit. If I shot it I don’t remember I probably didn’t because 10 seconds into holding the thing I didn’t want to any more.
>>65271104The pescinization of modernity. Should be a book title
It takes glock mags and AR triggers/handguards, is explicitly rated for +P (but not Super) and costs $2000 after shipping, tax, and transfer fee. What do we think?
How is a .45 bolt AR not able to handle .45 Super?
>>65270854Actually want thisAlready have g30 magsDe Lisle rifles are finicky and expensive
>>65270912They actually dont want to sell any its a charade to keep a manufacturing license
>>65271557you have never touched a gun in your whole entire life, and you never will.
>>65271418Still doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a bolt action that smallI can still see a use case for regular rifle sized manual actions, but for a .45 any lightweight suppressor would probably be quite enough
Implications of being forced to build shelters for your strategic bombers?
>>65271334>dat filenamekek
>>65271450roundabouts and commonwealth countries, name a more iconic duo
>>65271450Leave it to the ozzies to draw boobs
>>65264056Then we wouldn't have seen Operation “Web”
>>65264129Looks like a temporary hangar, so it's probably on Guam, Hawaii, or Diego Garcia, since they have normal hangars at Whiteman. It's not sealed from the ground so rain can run under it.
>“Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs,” one of the sources familiar with the pilot’s witness account told CNN. “Real alien sh*t.”>Another source told CNN the pilot described witnessing a “minefield of drones” in the air.>While the exact cause of the F-15 downing is still being investigated, initial reports indicated that it was possible the drone formation had in some way enabled Iran to shoot down the American jet, according to two of the sources.
>>65270236Nah.
>>65270236thirdie obsession with these drone shows as if they are an implessive example of le power of le thirdiedrone are always amusing.
>>65266774this is current news and political
And there are somehow still people who trust pilots as experts when they "confirm" ufos.
>>65266774>Sacrificed all your highest wizards to your mighty god.>Finally shot down 1 (ONE) aircraft.>Instead sending out search parties for the downed pilots, you made a great drone show.>Downed pilots went back to evil empire in one piece.Sounds like IR people is not very smart.
