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when did Mercedes peak?
i keep hearing the w123 was a big deal because its a cockroach that never dies but then there is stuff like s class
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>>28758397
Until the 90s when they start pandering to Slavs and Arabs anyway.
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>>28755394
Pre-DaimlerChrysler.

Their cars were 100% bulletproof. It’s not weird at all to see them hit over a million miles with the original engine, transmission, and everything else still going strong.
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>>28755394
G-Wagon 2025 model line.
My ex-wife bought it for divorce winnings to drive her boyfriends son from our own house to school and then back home and seems to be extremely pleased with it.
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>no C111
MR gullwing supercar testbed for 3 rotor, 4 rotor, turbodiesel, and V8 engines. this is what happens when mercedes lets their engineers go wild. ironically 20 years later they were beat by a 4 rotor at le mans.
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>>28758509
G wagon isn't a Mercedes product. Engineering is done by Steyr. Even the og was.

Itt we discuss peak automobile
post your Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth
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Tfw no free snacks at the dealership
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>>28757512
They gave me coffee and cookies when I bought my charger :)
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>>28756220
agreed, that shit would have been hilarious
>>28756454
the Caliber has the Mitsubishi/Hyundai/Chrysler World Engine which is more or less a 4B11T, shared with the Evo X.
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Ah, jeez, I was just reminded of the sludge factor on these 2.7L V6 engines, but should I buy it anyway?
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>>28759647
As I said itt the 2.7s weepy water pump was fixed later on so the late models are pretty solid. This issue was that the pressure weep hole on the coolant pump drained into the oil pan instead of outside the block. The design was revised later on.
basically as long as you change the oil on a regular basis and there won't be a problem, they don't just randomly explode. If you do happen to see the chocolate milkshake don't panic, it's not a headgasket, just change the oil and have the water pump replaced.
these engines died because uncaring and unknowing owners would run it long after the symptoms of failure started.

The hydrogen car is dead and buried.
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>>28749965
Good.
FUCK hydrogen.

>Take natural gas out of the ground.
>Fucking steam it by burning more natural gas with water to "refine" it.
>Eventually end up separating hydrogen.
>But not after releasing SHIT TONNES of methane, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere in the process
>Now you have to compress the ever loving fuck out of it to 270 psi while cooling it to -150 degrees or something like that, just to transport it in converted oil tankers.
>All the while it's leaking out slowly because hydrogen is impossible to contain (though not in dangerous amounts. As long as you're venting the area...)
>Do the same with the trucks that have to bring it to storage stations.
>HAVE to sell it within a timeframe before too much is lost for it to be profitable.

Aside from the money aspect, the fucking energy spent for energy gained by the time you get the hydrogen into your car is WORSE than fucking petrol and arguably just as """bad""" for the environment.


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>>28749965
honestly one of the most tragic things of the modern era if it is the case (no its always infrastructure that limits production of green cars - fueling stations)
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>>28759589
u are too stupid to vote, please do not
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I like when cars piss in the road
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>>28759597
Oh, right, you can also separate hydrogen from water by wasting immense amounts of electricity.
My bad, dickhead.

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My brother works at Whole Foods making $15/hr and he just bought a $40K truck with a 7% interest rate lmao.
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>>28753481
At some point someone with a brain looks at what's going on and stops hating those that are doing it but instead tries to understand it. Without a legion of idiots buying stupid bullshit on finance terms that will rape them, you would have way more competition for goods and resources. Let dumbasses blow their load on fancy cars while you instead drive a shitbox but have a home, or a business, or a corporation, or if you're really fancy your own town or state or country. Or just be gigabased and be Amish and have zero debt ever to anyone even if it means you fucking starve because if you somehow manage to make it work then you are truly free.
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>>28759673
>Or just be gigabased and be Amish and have zero debt ever to anyone
Based Amish people, I used to think they were missing out, but growing up is realizing we're the fucking idiots slaving away for crap, when they have actual shit that matters.
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>>28755471
Nobody actually gives a fuck what the Bible says, they just use it to their own benefit when it lines up with what they're saying and ignore it or say it's outdated otherwise. Maybe 1/20th of anyone of any major religion actually gives a fuck and lives according to the principles they were taught. Here in particular everyone just shits on everyone else instead of trying to understand what it is they are saying and doing and why.
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>>28759677
I've met several of them. They aren't retarded they just fucking refuse to have any debt. They don't use electricity primarily because using it means you have to be tied into the grid and owe a company a debt for what you use every month, but they'll sure as fuck buy solar panels and use them to charge car batteries so they can plug a basic ass nokia into a wall charger so they can make work or emergency related calls and texts. They've got problems like every group of people but financially the Amish are some stone cold motherfuckers. If they owe anyone anything ever they go to hell, and frankly everyone else would be way better off adopting that kind of mindset in whole or in part.
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>>28759694
Dangerously based motherfuckers, it rattles me how fucked we would be and the masses losing their minds should the power go out, the Amish just don't notice, they're fucking farmers.

Welcome to the Auto Vidya General, the thread for discussion of racing and driving games. Not chinkshit peripherals or ecelebs.

Previous thread >>28743260

>Wiki
https://get-good.net
>Mumble
IP: mumble.get-good.net
Port: 64738
Password: 4ch
>Chat
https://chat.get-good.net
>Equipment Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNo


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>>28759707
Funny fact: If you say "Mars" in reverse it sounds like the word for "I'm shitting" in polish
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>>28759750
In the other finnish stages it feels like the faster you go and the more grip your get with the car. It felt great.
The jumps always scare me a little though since sometimes you jump so high the nose goes down hard when falling. Another map I forgot the name off has a big jump with logs in front and I completely totaled the car and spooked myself as well since I was in VR.
Also how do you play with the shifter? Clutch + H Pattern or just H Pattern? I tried clutch + h but I'm so bad at it I keep stalling in critical moments.
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>>28759767

I play clutch+h pattern, yeah the escort is really easy to stall and other lower power cars. You got to make sure you don't accidentally brake in the air as it can stall the car in 5th and yeah landing is really tricky on jumps you really have to pay attention about what angle you go over the jump at try to pay attention to the pace notes about the next turn coming up and usually you use that as a guideline on what way the car kinda wants to face. Also need to push the clutch in each time you handbrake if you're using the clutch as it will stall the car otherwise it doesn't have the fancy like handbrakes that are connected to the dif and stuff like modern WRC cars that avoid that. It's fun, I like playing with the clutch and shifter just kinda totally connected to the car and with this Chinese aliexpress shifter the shifts are so mechanical it's kinda cool. Plus the clutch is super useful to clutch kick through corners and stuff.

Yeah the Finnish stages do kinda reward the faster you go, as the stages rarely have anything on the sides of the stage so you can keep cutting and taking wild lines even at speed and they all kinda wind into each other so it almost compliments coming into a corner too fast as you will just slide into the next corner anyways.
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TAKUMI FUJIWARA! I'M COMING TO KILL YOU
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>new beam update for truck autism
>also a rally loop where you can drive between the stages.
im not feeling it

have you ever gone over 100mph (160kmph)? I did once in North Carolina, but i felt like I was floating so I noped out and slowed down. How do you guys put up with it?
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135 on the highway between Searchlight and I-15. The steering wheel became a boat tiller at that speed, and the road was a little wavy, so I didn't press any further.

Got to 125 on the Costa Mesa Freeway late on a Sunday/early on a Monday about 25 years ago. Not a soul on the freeway. Wouldn't be the case these days.
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>>28735463
>I did once
what
I've done over 100mph in literally every vehicle I've owned.
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>>28736530
>What kind of cars were you guys in that 100mph feels unstable?
this what the fuck lmao
even my miata felt fine at 100.
c5 corvette and gc8 sti both feel very planted at 100
motorcycles all felt good
the only car that was squirrely at that speed was my mk1 golf, but surely the average poster here drives something better than my 44 year old shitbox?
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My fastest was 238 km/h on the autobahn in some run down mercedes from 2000
I feel like past 180 km/h it gets too stressful so I rarely go over that, especially with the danger of people just randomly switching lanes without any indication or regard for their own safety
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>>28735463

yes. i have never owned a fast car myself, but my buddy had an 06 subaru sti. royal blue, with the gold wheels. had some modest tune done to it. it was probably pushing 400 hp to the wheel, which is not ludicrous, but still ridiculous. he let me drive it a few times, you know, to go get beer or whatever. i did a hot lap from my neighboorhood taking surface streets (100+), and then freeway (~150). it was the perfect day for it. hot, and no traffic. that car was a rocket. i was surprised how quickly it accelerated uphill in 3rd gear getting on the freeway to 100 +. handling was good at those speeds as well. didn't feel like i was working to correct much, and the suspension was firm, but not too stiff. only thing that stopped me going faster was running out of freeway. i mostly like off road trucks, which are slow, so i can see how the speed is addicting on street. when i think of that i also think of last year when my friends kid's friend was doing close to 200 on the freeway here in a gtr, and crashed which killed their mutual friend. not worth it.

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Is it better to go through a touchless wash or a soft touch wash? My local drive thru carwash has both. Been going through the touchless but it doesn’t do the best job of washing it.

I usually use the coin op powerwasher one but need to clean the salt off the underbody
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>>28756664
>What makes one better than the other?
Size+weight. I can stick a little jump box and air compressor in one of the tiny compartments next to my spare tire.
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>>28755447
I thought that still helps in REALLY cold climates.
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>>28758646
i wasn't responding to you faggot fuck off
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Haven't browsed /o/ in years.
What happened to all the sticker vendors? Guessing same thing that happened to most of the patch vendors on /k/ where it got too expensive/the board went to shit.

Either way does anyone have the old pastebin with all the vendors that might still be around?
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>>28759256
I hope they started getting b&. It turned into 100% weeb stickers. At least back in the day the weebshit was /o/-adjacent.

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Controversial opinion: plastic cladding looks cool as fuck
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>>28757878
>Rusts
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Should've been 4x4 and 150hp
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>>28759495
Wow, those rivets are pretty terrible.
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>>28759629
Yeah, better to have it glued on so when it inevitably turns brittle and shatters you can't just unscrew it and stick on a new one.
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>>28758709
>rusts
Hidden. Nuavalanches however
>oh no no no no

Is this the most aesthetic motorcycle of all?
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Sidecars look the coolest... At least it will be when it's done. ;_;
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>>28759605
I was hesitant to post my bike, but god damn do I love me an Ural
>B-BUT IT'S A DNEPR
Yeah yeah, whatever you say gamer.
Also how's them cone filters treating you, did you rejet? K68 don't like cones
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Archetypal sportsbike aesthetic.
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did anyone at GM ever explain why they created such a beautiful car in the CT4V blackwing but then dropped a giant steaming turd on it in the form of a twin turbo V6 instead of giving it the LT1 V8 they were putting in the camaro SS?
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>>28759183
>MY FREAKING BODY KIT
man fuck off
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>>28759183
but you can buy a blackwing with a v8 and manual trans...
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>>28759183
Even worse the non-blackwing has a FOUR CYLINDER
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>>28759183
They needed to practice developing turbo V6s for their foray into Formula 1.

And if you wanted a V8, you could just buy a Camaro. Just think of this thing as a modern day Grand National.
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>compact sedan is lame
woah no way thats crazy how could this happen

Why are 80s cars so kino. Best era by far for automobiles.
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>>28758465
Are you even a man?
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>>28757653
Yeah but that's an 80s model
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>>28757440
Just keep the lines coming until they get it right
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>>28757438
It was the 50s and it's not even close

But anything prior to the 10s is still at least good to look at
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ok

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Max Fags on suicide watch.
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>>28757197
>And they are bad because?
>ARR ROOK SAME bland flat circuits made to maximize grandstand space over actual drivability
>no features
>butchered Hockenheimring and Fuji Speedway
>Would you rather race paul ricard?
Pic related. This is your brain on nu-F1.
>>28757374
His full faggotry was tempered
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They only did this because they do not want MAx to rightfully shit on Hamilton by clearing the most championships.
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>>28758246
>Honda Engine guys are confident they have a ok ish engine.
Is that an F2 engine, like the last time they were confident and Alonso was driving one?
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>>28758482
>>28758481
Hell yeah. I'd get merch, but I don't want to give the Strolls money.
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>>28759321
GP2 engine, F2 is too recent for Alonso...

Tesla is doing so bad that it has negative days supply of cars

How could it have come to this?
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>>28759484
but have you considered
the doors go up
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>>28759484
Tesla owners are mostly men so they care about functionality over form.
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>>28759509
3 has exactly all of Y's functionality, other than a marginally smaller boot.
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>>28759537
The Y has additional functionality, like cargo space and more seating.
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>>28759537
Feels like one of those cynical marketing exercises, just marketing something as a SUV is able to convince sheeple to ignore the evidence of their eyes these days.

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I don't care about wrenching cars I just drive.
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>>28759222
You mean you don't sit in a barren apartment working on a carburetor while Under Your Spell plays?..
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I don't like the things I operate to be mysterious magic boxes
Getting my hands dirty with cars, computers, construction work makes me appreciate the engineering that goes into them and means I can sort of know what needs to be done if something goes wrong
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I like to do stuff i like and not do stuff i do not like
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im weak and skinny fat and probably can't even change my own tires. I bought a new spare tire and spent 30 minutes trying to screw it down with my jack because the jack kept blocking the screw hole and I kept adjusting the tire and the jack multiple ways, the whole time I was bent over and once I finally got it secured, I was sweating like a pig. Then when I went to sit down my whole torso was shaking. So yeah I couldn't wrench even if I wanted to. at least I replaced my 20 year old spare tire. But if I get a flat im calling roadside assistance to get them to change jt for me. Also I dojt have a garage so I can't exactly poke around in my engine and under my car in private.
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What 0 agency does to a mf

>I COULD NEVER BE USELESS LIKE YOU, I POP THE HOOD AND KNOW JUST WHAT TO DO

>trump approving production of tiny cars built in America
This is making me a bit more optimistic about the new car market, but is it realistic? The entire reason why we're in this mess is because of CAFE standards, will little cars like the Ford fiesta and Honda fit make a comeback?
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>>28754550
>>muh children playing in the streets
>Sounds like a parenting issue
I'm sure the judge at your manslaughter trial will respond well to this argument
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>>28754921
There is a 4 door 1.4 which is not kei car.
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>>28757984
Anything trump does the media propagandizes as evil. He could solve world hunger, cure cancer, and create peace world wide and they would still paint him as the devil. I look forward to mini trucks again.
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Does that mean mutts may get the kino A110 GTS and GR Yaris soon?
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>>28758512
depends on whether the car companies think this is permanent or not. the next administration could just go back to the old regulations. car companies need several years of production and supply to sell vehicles in a market like the US. they won't commit to that unless they think it's viable.


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