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what's what gave you the best result as a natty?
for me honestly it somehow didn't matter how i worked out
i tried low volume high frequency, brosplit, 3x full body, pplul, ulxul
whenever i bulk i just become a fatty really fast
my upper body is dyel, my legs are massive and muscular, especially calves (used to be a fatty)
should i try cutting again and then only training upper body?
maintenance calories? slight bulk?
I've tried keto, balanced diets, carnivore, vegan, raw primal even
i just look like a twink with massive legs when i lose weight
I'm 187cm tall, currently fat again 101kg
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>>77308168
>>77308183
and yes, I do dropsets, start with the biggest weight and then go down with either reps and/or weight. No pyramid sets, from what I learned that is not optimal since it fatigues you before you push your limits.
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>>77308185
so you don't warm up with lower weights first? you start at highest weight and then drop down?
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>>77308203
for the first major sets I usually do a few reps with just the bar, like deadlift, bench press. Or I rotate my arms a bit before pullups and stuff like that. After the first big set, I'm warm enough to do the other sets directly.
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>>77308115
For non-responders volume is usually the way. Just whatever in neurological half isn't working for you so you gotta brute force a solution. Take all sets as close as you can get to failure but assume they're 2 rir because they probably are. When that wears you down deload and go back up.

I've had mixed success with pause sets and "elongated sets" slow concentric hold slow eccentric nothing dramatic mind you just like 3-4 second concentric 1 second hold 3-4 second eccentric. I don't think it's completely time under tension but just slowing down the rep allows you deal with form and rom a lot more responsibly. Which I'm sure some retard will be "umm ackshually this study says it doesn't impact growth" when it does for supporting muscles and things like lower traps, rhomboid, anterior serratus, rear delts having a good glute to hamstring balance. All these things that contribute to posture and good lifting form do make you more aesthetic and will help you get bigger in the long run even if they don't help you direct grow 2.3% more pecs or some stupid small picture shut.
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>>77308207
i see, yeah. my warmups have become very extensive lately because of my fear of injury
quality of life is just so low in all aspects when injury happens
>>77308215
so do 10 sets 2x a week?
like Monday and Thursday
chest 10 sets each or something?
the thing is i never increase in strength if my frequency is below 3x a week but 3x a week is close to injury of volume is high
2x a week if volume is high it's fucking junk volume
idk man after years of lifting i feel like natty lifting is a complete meme
sorry for sounding demoralized
I'm not
just struggling

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previous >>77295293
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>>77307854
Yjk this thing is a complete and absolute sexual degenerate and an obnoxious nutcase in general. Jesus christ what a fucking disgraceful excuse of a human being
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>>77307915
Based autist. I screamed internally the exact same.
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>>77305903
So many people, or just 5 of her fat friends? Seriously though, you tipped your hand with funeral bit, it was pointless to include and meant to evoke an emotional response. Unfortunately, you forgot where you are.
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>>77307950
Weak trolling, try again.
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>>77307709
Nope. She was a good friend who would always bs there for, literally, every person she knew. Shocked her mom the most, who thought she was always full of shit about being out a lotncuz someone needed her. No one expected the turn out to be as big as it was

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questions that don't deserve their own thread thread
Does Bugenhagen's style of lifting actually work in real life for non-elite athletes/hyper-responders? He promoted doing one lift for a couple of weeks at a time and then switching to a different one. I never got much results from bodybuilding routines so I want to try something different.
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Should I be taking melatonin every night?

I don't want to be dependent on it and I want to fall asleep naturally but it's hard to do that sometimes.
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Idk what happened in since last week when I last squatted but today I immediately noticed pain in my kneecap, thought maybe i could work through it so I did a couple extra warmup weight squats and nope'd. Stairs are a little painful but any idea what this is? Ideally can I just wait this out?
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so my current works very well but im thinking about doing some consolidation for time saving reasons.

my current routine is x A B C x A/B C
A=legs/abs
B=chest/shoulders
C=back/rotator cuffs

im thinking about doing a full body so it would go

A/B/C x x A/B C

total sets would be legs (10), back (4), chest (4), shoulders (4) = 22 sets + ab workout on the 'big' day.

super setting my back/chest/shoulders into one workout seems to not be causing any issues so i might as well get legs and abs done too. i'd essentially be working out all day.


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>>77307892
i would avoid taking more than 0.5 mg and also try not to be on it forever, your body will downregulate its own melatonin production and then you'll just be dependent... try magnesium glycinate, that you CAN take indefinitely
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/long-term-use-of-melatonin-supplements-to-support-sleep-may-have-negative-health-effects
>>77307905
without any other details, initial guess would be patellar tendinitis. knee stuff can be quite fickle though, see if you can look up videos with diagnostic tests.
>>77307404
seems fine unless you're trying for a baby
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>>77305490
Today I took it with water
Taste was awful once you stop drinking, the chocolate flavor explode in your mouth
But I haven't shat after
Should I go unflavored whey with water? The chocolate state isn't bad when you drink but become weird when you stop drinking it

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I wanna do steroids to death
The problem is at a certain point, somewhere over 1500mg, they override my desire to workout and I end up fucking off way to much
So never get a really good heavy cycle going but I can do moderate amounts seemingly indefinitely?
Moderate amounts aren't gonna kill me though, it's a real let down desu
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The first marathon runner in history, a Greek messenger named Pheidippides, is said to have collapsed and died from exhaustion immediately after running from the battlefield of Marathon to Athens to announce a military victory in 490 BCE.
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Travel to Thailand and rent the Holy Sauna where Zyzz ascended. Fuck ladyboys and do drugs until your heart stops.
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heart attack on 12h shift with ukrainians,colombians and negroids in western poland factory where you work for 4000zl month
god please do it tonight (night shift)
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>>77307553
Using your own muscles to do it would be pretty fit

This girl is a climber. Climber girls are the cutest girls in the world just after runner girls. Tell me, please, how do you get a climber girlfriend? TELL ME
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just

CLIMB ER
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>>77308105
She looks like she fucks white guys.
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>>77308105
obviously go and start climbing, fair warning most climbing chicks are left wingers and pretty weird. they will also be surrounded by other left wing beta orbiters who will probably smell like shit and mog you at climbing. if you need encouragement I used to have a manlet friend who was not attractive, was a huge weirdo and had genital herpes and he scored a very attractive climber gf just from signing up to the local bouldering joint. she loved him and always told him she wanted to have his babies so, if you can deal with all the bullshit around it there is hope for anyone
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>>77308202
but never you. you stay a khhv

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When am I going to see my ABS?
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shaving body hair is for fags
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>>77308149
Ironically the least gay spot to be hairless is your asshole.
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Never. You have mild Pectus Excavatum.
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>>77308152
Kek I saw a specialist for a cyst I got on my tailbone. He told me the best way to prevent it was to shave my ass. Im hoping its just because I got a little fat and if I get back to my normal weight it won't bother me again.

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https://swoleateveryheight.blogspot.com/2026/06/an-old-lie-told-new-way.html
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Heavy Duty doesn’t work

Holy based.
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>>77308146
I assume you have to change jobs to get the effect? Since even if the social benefits of height weren't cancelled out by your new uncanny proportions and gait, they definitely would by people seeing you as the guy who got a leg-lengthening surgery and judging you for it (and knowing you were actually short but frauding). Guess you need new friends too, and I guess you hide it from your girlfriend/wife forever? Don't know how that works when your family meets her and teases you about it, unless you cut them out too.
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>>77308160
yeah probably
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>>77308112
this lol, nobody who engages in even the mildest of athletic activities would ever consider going through such a procedure
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>>77308140
Nothing unbelievable about you sleeping with more men than your gf, anon
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>>77307727
notice how the guy selling the procedure isn't getting it himself

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this is all you need.
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>>77307465
The anon you responded to did not bemoan the complexity, but the time investment. You still have to monitior the boiling and the curding, package the results, and clean up afterwards. It's not that hard or that long, but your recipe time estimate is just the actual cooking time, and even those 25 minutes are active, not setting a timer to bake and doing something else during. When there exist minimally processed things to throw in your cart during your grocery trip, why bother?

Everyone draws their own line in the sand because if you do this for too many types of foods or in too much volume it gets onerous. Most people consider it unnecessary busywork, trending more towards milling your own flour than baking your own bread, which they already don't bother with.
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>>77307465
>To make a standard batch of cottage cheese, you need 1 gallon (about 4 liters) of whole milk, which yields roughly 2 cups (or 450-500 grams) of finished cottage cheese.
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>>77307140
There's literally zero reason that cottage cheese should have any thickeners or gums in it.
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>>77304907
How do I make this stuff more appetizing? I've never liked the taste and consistency.
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>>77308192
add some jam

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>>77306574
Turn white and stop being a manlet
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>>77306574
>No visible serratus
>Scrawny forearms
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>>77306574
Looks like a very small man to me, don't ask how i know i can just tell.
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>>77307058
This was achieved with roids yes.
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>>77306574
Just a few changes:
>slightly bigger obliques
>bigger forearms
>slightly smaller lats
>smaller biceps
>smaller triceps
>way smaller delts
>way smaller traps
>be white(-r?)
And he's good to go. Roidfreak trannies can (and, indeed, will) cope.

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Gotten any good mires lately?
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>>77296861
at least you have a gun, if I wanted to die I'd have to go and throw myself off a high place like some cuck
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>>77296455
Some lady slipped, clearly it was because she saw my mass
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>>77308000
Is a stick of dynamite in your mouth powerful enough to kill someone instantly?
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>>77308103
most likely, that would be a funny way to go but I doubt that it's easy to source
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>birthday
>tell no one
>boss sees it by chance on paperwork
>announces to office
>jacked coworker hands me Jocko Mölk Protein Shake
>'happy bday boss'

Did I make it?

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Does this appear to be a long term healthy physique? Any causes for concern or immediate issues to be addressed?
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>>77307628
>go out [to my computer screen] and talk to [it]
What did anon mean by this
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>>77307649
nah
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>>77307620
ok
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>>77307609
you didnt even try.
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>tfw such a virgin that I stare at every womans ass in pubic especially in tighter pants or jeans like these
Even if her ass is nonexistent I would stare at this Asian ass too

Looksmaxxing is male-to-male trans behaviour.
>both take hormones
>both try to be xir idealized gender
>both desperate for validation
>both have whatever it takes attitude in regards xir body transformation
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>>77307361
Not even indian women like indian men
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>>77307597
He's not autistic. It's just marketing and you fell for it.
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>>77307358
Trashy horny women hit on you. The quality ones mire you in silence and they feel extremely humble and grateful when you pay attention to them. Women are generally insecure. Ofc they prefer good looking fit men, but they dont like douchebags. Charisma maxxing is another part of looksmaxxing that is generally ignored and that usually works alone, thats why you see uggos with hot girls, having both makes you unstoppable, thats what the idea of a chad is. That why clav is a fuck up, hes a total social retard.
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>>77307339
That's a good thing.
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>>77307373
Yeah, the mental and language gymnastics are fucking anoying. Literal 1984 newspeak type brainwashing to shape peoples minds. They say shit like "plus size" instead of fat to make it sound less bad, or "polyamorous" instead of "fucking whore". Its women who do this shit to justify their bad choices and not look like horrible people. I really hope zoomers and alphas put an end to this fucking trash and bring back recklessly shaming people. I think they are on their way to do that. In the name of all millenials, we are sorry, we fucked up.

>go to gym
>tell girl there I want to join
>she asks me what kind of thing I want to join to
>I tell her exercise
>we have pilates, gap, pool salus, pool gym, bodypump, dance, bike virtual, suspension training, bike, core, heoican hybrid, salus, intensity, strong training, zen, yoga, pool gym, harmony, body combat, toning, movility, hiit, intensity, zumba, padel, global balance, and then like 5 different types of swimming
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>>77308145
Pathetic
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>>77308147
:(
anyway, what's the difference? what should I choose?
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read Starting Strength, and the sticky if any of the links still work
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>>77308151
Just tell her you want to become a sick cunt
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>>77308151
>what should I choose?
Dumb foid.
Try them all and see wear you enjoy.

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Got this used Decathlon Training Station 100 for free. What can I use it for other than dips?
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>>77307509
Australian row, tricep extensions, front lever, straight bar dips
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nice stroller old man
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inverted rows
L-sits
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>>77307509
single arm planche while cranking your hog with the other arm (advanced)
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Handstand pushups


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