Welcome to Divination General! Come here for readings and a discussion of theory/practice.Every method is welcome: Tarot, Runes, Cartomancy, Scrying, Pendulum, Cleromancy, I-Ching, Digital, Oracles, Tasseomancy, Necromancy, etc.>If you're NEW, please READ the STICKY:https://pastebin.com/G42HmsUs>Recommended /div/ links and books:https://pastebin.com/sAkg9cMz>MEGA with Divination Books:https://mega.nz/folder/Jp8gQD7Q#om_2lEm1GL0qPIpSrQgrvA>Guides made by some of our readers:•/div/ starter spreads:https://i.imgur.com/mxpu4MF.png•Thoth's tarot and rune guide:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ciFuMOVDIkA18d9Rw-Zkklgigx-Y4XzJkGVeMTYWcic/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
hi, how are you?
>>42898760Feel things out, don't decide before hand, terrible orthography, sorry
>>42898404thank you for reading Ciel. would appreciate a reading about my career. been searching for something good to do. does it look like i'll have something good going on by the end of the year? could you tell what kinda work i'd be doing? i'm 29 male>Favorite Move: Knight Attack
AQ Should I fight back against my moms bullshit, or was that reader right in that doing it will open the dark karma timeline?
AQ Did I screw up my chances with that?
Asking for original videos pls i remember seeing them in 2024 and i just want to confirm what i saw then but every op was nuked
>>42896572>The ship itself looked like it was made of rods or blocks, with a few lights, and it didn't seem huge, bigger than a car maybeYou have my attention.My mom saw something like this about 22-25 years ago, driving down a fairly quiet road through the fairly average town we lived in at the time. Rods and some spheres. It tracked her car briefly then flew off. There was more to her description but it was a long time ago. I've never heard anybody describe something similar until now.
>>42886558My best theory is it was going to be some sort of false flag event, maybe a Las Vegas 2.0, but someone backed out or messed up the details in the chain of command and it fell apart.
>>42898747this actually makes more sense than aliens shopping on a mall
It was "teens" with a gun
>>42896660Certainly true. But what nothing nothingburger gets stonewalled with FOIA requests? Why are the dispatch calls and police chatter withheld? Not even redacted, completely withheld. Witness claims ofphone confiscation as well, the mall was closed for several days afterwards too.The ONLY official material we have from the incident is the acknowledgement of the cover storyI don't know if it's aliens, the video I mentioned could be completely unrelated, and probably is, it was just one random /x/ post.But the event was anomalous, that much is true, and it's pretty possible it was like other anons speculate and a failed false flag event, but why do the reports of tall shadowy things keep popping up?
How many of you have discovered something hidden in plain sight? Specifically, I'm referring to layers or levels to reality which we are completely ignorant to until they are revealed.Maybe it's social, a group or club. Masons would fall into this category if they were actually secret. But whatever it is, they communicate secretly often in front of others without them knowing. The Cant is a good example of this.Another layer could be drug induced, dream-state, or other methods of discovering an alternative to our perceived reality. States of consciousness where multiple people report the same experience.Of course, the Truman show is an example of the most fundamental feeling this discovery elicits. The feeling that the reality around us had more than we believed.Have you ever had the veil lifted? A peak behind the curtain?
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>>42891741>Doubly so with converso Jews and satanists infiltrating the Vatican, the latter of which was discussed by America's Founding FathersActually, what they said about Rome was that if any of the common folk knew what the Jesuits/Romans were doing in the US, the Civil War would have been a Holy War. You're close though.>blackmail is a form of witchcraftCan I help here? Blackmail is a leveraged ultimatum designed to subordinate someone to your will. Do you know how Frame of Reference is used in the modern world? The internet shorthand for it is just "frame" now: when you win someone over or "mog" them, you secure frame over them. This means you can dictate how they view the world or how they catalyze the dialectic you impose. In the same exact way, "Blackmail" is an attempt to forcefully subordinate someone.To offer some refined insight, the Occult world is built at its foreground by Influence and it's not just Occultists or Commerce studying Influence, but whole ass Governments and especially Militaries (you know, Sun Tzu, defeat an enemy without fighting). With that in mind, it should be obvious now that Blackmail isn't just some casual mob agenda, but a very specific tool of War. Israelis are famous for warring with this tactic for a prominent example.>pharmakeiaBlackmail is not a Gateway, anon. Do not confuse people. Gateways/Drugs are a different animal though your analogy to influencing people is apt. To be clear, potions are just tinctures from older days. Poisons were commonly used recreationally (like in Paul's Letter to the Galatians for a good example) and were synonymous with drugs in the ancient world a la Galen.>incantations, hypnosis and NLPYou're really moving somewhere here, but we don't need to steal the thread with rants about Divine Poetry or people that channeled insights throughout history.>Roman suppression of the BacchanaliaPeople got high, didn't want to die in wars anymore, so Rome just sort of banned it...
>>42874038Yeah if you smoke salvia the curtain gets shredded for awhile
>>42890581>The Greek Hellenists were known for worshiping Greek Gods and Pedophilia being part of that worshipNope. You're thinking of the Romans. The Greeks were pretty explicitly against pederasts and people like Plato and his friends had a lot of sour words for those people.Alefantis had an obsession with Ganymede.>16 year old loverI'm sorry to say he did not enjoy exclusively 16 year olds. it was much worse than that. His Instagram was littered with abhorrent shit like this.
>>42874038one could argue the world itself.we are so used to it, that we take it for granted, but it is truly a miracle in its mundanity. i am pretty sure that I am not explaining it very well.
I am just not going to masturbate, thats all.
There is nothing wrong with masturbating, what, are you jewish?Porn on the other hand...
>>42897421i wouldnt mind having sex with a woman but just never happens. havent spoken to a female in any dating/romantic sense for over 2 years now
>>42897485>i wouldnt mind having sex with a womando you listen to yourself?do you think a lion in africa is like "i wouldnt mind eating but just never happens"SR is a spiritual practice of redirecting the prime reproductive hunger into other pursuits, but if you dont have any hunger in you what are you expecting to happen?Are on some kind of psychiatric medicines? You sound depressed as fuck bro, like legit depressed, not instagram attention seeking depressed
>>42897546i thought what i just expressed was how everyone feels about sex and the female species. as in if sex is there ok ill perhaps do it otherwise oh well. to be clear im not on any meds and never have been. also dont have any social media and never have. appreciate your response btw as i didn't think my desire levels were out of the ordinary. but you seem to think im depressed
I got that fat sack stack
i dont believe in aliens/UFOs anymorewhat makes you a believer still
>>42896885aliens are not real tho,read arthur c clarke and the script is obvious
>>42897530No ETs, FTL is an absolute nonpossibility and the extreme distances between stars make it not possible.Fermi is easily solved, theres no FTL, not even close to c is possible (anything made of matter always turn into plasma as it approaches c, even if it was magic pure diamond, it cannot get within even significant fractions of c)That means, no going to other star systems without generation ships. Earth only planet within hundreds of light years w intelligent life that also builds technology) It takes centuries to reach nearest star, cant get even close to c due to thermal limits of best possible materials vs the ism dust and gas turning into a constant particle accelerator (and mini nukes impacting when sand grain sized particles hit, even using magnetic shields, the thermal flux makes ships melt)That solves fermi. No one leaves their solar systems.Also, uh, ETs could not sneak in, any ship going relativistic looks like a star.
>aliens are real!>great!africa needs to clean water,new roads,food,clothing,building,lets rebuild and make the space visitors happy!>..............
>>42898176>>42897606>>42897530>>42897441It's absolutely surreal how you are able to dismiss all evidence to continue on immersed in the delusion that no evidence exists.. and that your fellow humans are describing their own experiences with the beings.You are living in the echoes within your mind and completely tuning out your own subconscious memories of your own experiences with the beings.Then you extend your deep psychological blockade to apply to the reports and evidence that exists in the world around you.Dig into your memory. There is something there for you to find.. perhaps you are already aware of something that you have partial memory of that doesn't sit right in your mind. Take a deeper look at your own memories..
>>42898832dig on the trillions the world uses on their armies,brother LMAOOO
Your ability to influence others external reality via your own internal feelings and actions It seems to rub into an issue with reality "Why can I influence my neighbor in such a way if we all have free will" This leads to solipsist thought processes but what if God is just controlling everyone including you and He likes what you are doing internally so he influences the other puppets on your behalf? There's an explanation that's not solipsism Also we assume as humans when we observe a complex system (like earth) that it must have meaning But what if we just can't comprehend Gods infinite creatively What God can make something as complex as earth for no reason other than to express a feeling he felt for 2 seconds
>>42898816I'd tell you but you seem be a nefarious fellow that influences his neighbor to see what happens.
>>42898917Not up but you don't know anything, you just want to feel special.
>>42898924I DO feel special and I know many much things
Suppose you were somehow pulled out of a simulation and freed. It turns out something like the matrix did happen and the machines discovered a better way and they released you. Could you ever be at peace with the uncertainty of the nature of reality?
>>42881091Yes, I could. Sometimes you have to hit the ground running and accept the reality around you for the time being, even if you distrust it. You can figure out the details as you go along for the ride. It's usually in your best interests if you're actually looking to reveal the curtain on what's actually happening around you or to you.
>>42881091Do you know what metaphor is?
>>42896466What's your point?
>>42882273It's a real mother
>>42898868https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDqNDLpZa8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFTmiAx7R48
>What is a tulpa?A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you. It’s currently unproven whether or not tulpas are truly sentient, but in this community, we treat them as such. It takes time for a tulpa to develop a convincing and complex personality; as they grow older, your attention and their life experiences will shape them into a person with their own hopes, dreams and beliefs. And eventually your tulpa will be able to do more things as it gets stronger.>How can I make a tulpa?Just pick a guide that suits you, you don't have to pick from these specific ones but these are pretty good and recommended:https://tulpanomicon.guidehttps://farcaller.gitbooks.io/nbtb/https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iiFxZ9PYXXxSqWHdU2YoPsGfJr90w8aIG_evqc1wiY/https://rentry.org/34rqgyf6>I have no ideas on what to do when I'm forcing (mostly for tulpas that are already at least somewhat)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42893887DXM also can be helpful!
>>42894504>also surprisingly good timing in random events.>surprising>good timingYou've missed the point anon. The timing is always good. I wasn't surprised. I thanked her for the nudge and offered apologies for being so shitty.Maybe miracles anon will grasp what I'm trying to express. When you invite this kind of thing into your life, you are giving up some amount of agency. It might take a few years, but when or if it starts happening, you'll know that you've put yourself into a situation that you can't easily escape. One of many reasons why making nice tulpa that you enjoy is so important.
>>42892485Good for you, Anon. As I said, I see mine as a balance, both being necessary. Honestly, it's fun, the relationship I'm building so far hasn't presented any problems. I'm still in the forcing phase.>>42891385>>42894612I think I understand what you meant. It's not very far from what I was imagining, actually, nothing out of this world, but a life like that sounds more fun. I may have idealized it too much when I read about tulpas controlling your body and doing what you want; I don't really know how that whole thing works.
>>42893920>Job is a poison for soul.I know you meant something different but fun fact, he hates my warehouse job a lot more than I do, and I'm trying to speedrun parallel processing for him so he can chill in wonderland while I'm at work.
>>42896717Job is an ultimate crime against uberhumanity and tulpanity.
Demons are not real. Demons are Ancestral Memories of Pterodactyls hunting Ancient Mammals. Pterosaurs have horns & wings similar to Demons.
The horns are usually more associated with goats and satyrs
>>42886523demons are not physical. they are the disembodied souls of the nephilim and their offspring. naturally we would depict them as hideous beings though, so I kind of agree with you there
>>42886523then who are they paying with blood and sperm?
Who is the better supreme God, Shiva or Vishnu?
>>42893609discordgg/9cmWcwQDs
>>42895915>Adi_ShankaraThe Upanishads - now with new Buddhist flavor!
>>42893678I wonder if Shiva is Odin or not
>>42896750He told me he was, specifically in his fierce form as Rudra.
This is a message that you might categorize as completely insane. Which is fair. It would be strange if you instantly believed in everything that this text contains.But if you feel like there’s something, please don’t dismiss it.Let’s start with the fact that CITF_MEMO.TIF contains core pieces of important information: https://pastebin.com/daZGK2C5 (Password: THE_TRUTH). But it goes further.Those are artworks. It’s confusing at first glance. Let’s just say what it represents directly. It depicts ŚÁ. 1. https://www.discogs.com/release/836573-Zoät-Aon-The-Triplex-Bestial/image/SW1hZ2U6MTc2OTY0Ng==2. https://www.discogs.com/label/30405-Aural-Hypnox/image/SW1hZ2U6MjI0MTYw3. https://www.discogs.com/release/15833603-Aprapat-Chimes-Of-Entropy/image/SW1hZ2U6NDg0NDk4NjE=4. https://www.discogs.com/release/21386905-The-New-Boyfriends-The-Fourth-Season/image/SW1hZ2U6NzEwNDM5NDY=Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Right!
wow right hemisphere clicked!
Old thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/42739526/150 images. Image limit reached.
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>>42896241>Consider looking into the meaning and messages behind the cover of the Tragically Hip album "Fully Completely"Probably something to do with the pleroma, but I'm not an expert in fabric softeners.https://www.wisdomlib.org/christianity/concept/completion>Completion represents the final state or end point of the Truth, encompassing all aspects from its origin to its ultimate fulfillment
>>42896899The album cover has bodies contorted and surrounded by planets, fish, and a godlike figure resembling Dionysus/Bacchus
>>42891887https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2LFDC23Q8UPicrel "Day #10911" in the movie
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any astrologers wanna take a look at my birthchart? how fucked am i?
>>42891063>just more astrology for normies pabulum againI'm painting alignment of Planet and House verbally so you can follow along with me. No none has to refer to the material as they read it and it is solely done for the person being read for. Can you shelf this hubris for me, please? You're letting this other guy overstep too much and it's getting in the way of our interaction. You don't like my read because it was sort of lazy in the beginning and that's fine with me, but I'm not going to defend my read, my style or my approach any more this thread. Thanks anyways.>That's neither romance or amourYou explicitly said the following:>my love of beauty -- otherworldly beauty, to be precise. I've always been obsessed with art, for instance in anime, depicting ideal, physically impossible formsThis is, without any question, amorous and romantic language. If you don't like my take on that, that's fine. I'm not asking you to agree with me though.>those words don't apply to anything but human relationshipsCan you calm down and stop lecturing me about speaking poetically?I'm sorry you're miserable. Stop taking it out on me.>>42893191If you knew what you were doing, you'd know that Joys do not exist in Modern/Psychological Astrology and that your critique of my read was utter bullshit because I'm using a different system to you, which doesn't use HLs like you commonly refer to, you dolt. Why do you keep trying to wiggle out of this?>I look at both house systemsDude, you fucking lectured me saying Saturn Joys in 12th even though my system has Neptune "Joy"ing in 12th. Get the fuck out of here with this shit. If you said the rest of my read was shit and explained why in ways that made sense instead of making a whole ass post that hinges on me not noticing your mistake, I may have been humble and cordial about this. I even tried to be an adult in the beginning, but you fucking doubled down and pretended I was wrong or made a bad read when largely it was fine.
>>42895419Anon, in the future, please be sure to disclude Personally Identifiable Information such as what you've included in the top left of this image. We don't need to know where you're from even if anyone can reasonably deduce your location and age from a chart anyway. With that out of the way, here we go:The strongest feature in your chart to me is the Pluto, Jupiter and Mars dynamic. I'm going to guess you were/are in some kind of legacy club/cult/religion (is it online?) and met some kind of Partner through this. Perhaps it's more like you will meet them through this. I also think you and this Partner often daydream about getting away together and maybe not absconding, but finding new experiences to make your time together worthwhile.I get the sense you think about this commonly and often you're the one that tempers big leaps with references to budgets and not disrupting the routine you've established. I also think there's a valuable flywheel here in which you regularly stumble into opportunities for further learning/travel.Is your Partner making it hard to advance in your career? If this is a problem for you guys - a lack of income to service these dreams, I wouldn't get too hung up on it. You guys seem to work well together even if they make your work harder. I'm going to guess you haven't had a Saturn Return yet. In this case, I could see how it'd ease the tensions you're experiencing.Are there health concerns or maybe self-image concerns which make it harder to work?
>>42898727>If you knew what you were doingYou are extremely confusing me with someone else. I have not posted about joys. I haven't argued with you. I do consider your reading incorrect as the querent has disagreed with you multiple times
>>42898847>confusing me with someone elseHey if that's true then fine. My bad.>incorrect because someone disagreed with youLook, guys, someone reading poorly isn't "incorrect" because someone "disagrees" with them. You're thinking of this the wrong way.For the record, I already agreed I didn't do a great read initially for anon. I didn't get into aspects or other additional details about the chart which would have helped steer me away from "you're probably rich", but all I'm doing is typing out what I see and even though anon isn't physically wealthy, it doesn't mean he's absent access to resources that he needs (neet, like we covered). Instead, the reality is the guy, as he attested to himself, isn't that focused on resources and is content (Jupiter in Sagittarius) with his financial situation. Obviously we're bothering him by saying "damn dude, you're probably rich" which makes him have to think about being poor some more. I'd assume this is part of the reason he's so sour.To be fair, that guy was clearly samefagging before after ragebaiting me with erroneous "criticisms" which don't even have anything to do with my read. That's unfortunately what precipitated all of this.To be clear, I'm not a fan of this protracted focus on one single anon's chart and all the meta discussion about my poor read from three days ago now. This has spiraled out into multiple people chiming in on a "poor read" that was apparently offered to someone who is nonetheless difficult to interact with. In my view, we're rewarding the wrong kind of behavior here.
Ahh, yes. Astro threads. Never stop arguing over house systems, please.Any time I glance here at these threads I want to be reminded that I should not return to this cesspit lmao.>The JoysThe Joys are honestly a bit of a meme in that the terminology doesn't explain too well what's going on. The joys most certainly do "exist" in modern astrology in that the "joys" mean that the house is defined by that planet and those meanings still exist today. It's why the 12th house is associated with isolation / exile, 11th with friends, the 3rd and 9th are associated with travel, 6th with injuries and 5th with children / sex.I wouldn't say these planets do "well" there though so much as they do what they're advertised to do there. No planets do "well" in the 6th and 12th without additional steps in traditional astrology.I can't speak for every author, but most of the time it's like "yeah, if the ruins-your-life planet is in the ruins-your-life house, it's kind of fucked up and also it will ruin your life, potentially before you're even born lmao"
I don't post on /x/ much if at all, but I don't know where else to ask for help, so here we go.Pic related is a crude recreation of my "flat". The scale is far from accurate but it'll do. This started three nights ago, when, at about 2 am, I heard what sounded like loud footsteps running in the gap between my sofa/bed, and the adjacent wall. Looking there, of course, I found nothing. As soon as I looked, the running noises resumed from my bathroom. After grabbing a kitchen knife and hyping myself up, I checked the bathroom only to find it empty. At this point I was creeped out so I turned on all the lights and stayed up until about 4 am. During this period nothing happened, so I turned off the lights and went to sleep. As soon as I laid down, the running noises resumed, this time coming from behind the wall to the right of my bed. I waited it out, and they stopped.Night 2 was more of the same.Night 3, and the reason I am writing this went different. The noises once again started at about 2 am, but they stopped right after waking me up instead of continuing like the first two nights. A strong blue light was coming from behind the bathroom door, but it was totally silent. I was too much of a chicken to investigate and just stayed under the covers, and the light went away on its own after about 5 minutes.Stuff I've already ruled out:-Schizophrenia.Nobody in my family has a history of mental illness and neither do I. Weird shit only happens in this apartment and nowhere else I go.-Rats, cockroaches, pests in generalI've heard what rats scurrying around in the night sounds like. This didn't sound like that, it sounded like grown men running around at full speed. It also doesn't explain the light.So, any suggestions for tonight? Anything I should try if it repeats? My working theory is that it is the ayys fucking with me since I remember reading about anons seeing strange blue lights like the one I saw before being kidnapped by them.
>>42897322Yeah, totally possible.I would burn some incense and pray for a while.Maybe clean up the room, dirt is evil.If it doesn't change, consider moving to a new place.Usually this can be interpreted as a sign of God.I had a similar experience once, heard steps as if someone was running on the roof.Called the cops too, but they were like >you should have caught him before calling us
>>42898806>you should have caught him before calling usKek. Funnily enough I remember hearing about people trapping burglars and then calling the cops, only to end up in legal trouble themselves for "kidnapping".
>>42898835Hearing disembodied footsteps is not uncommon. I think you might need to move to another place sooner or later. Djinns do inhabit ruins, so maybe you have some Djinns in the house. That what the prayers are for.
>>42898851I am only in this flat because I go to college nearby, so I will be moving out in about two years, give or take, anyway. I could move if it proves to be the only solution but I'd rather not as looking for a new place to stay would be a pain, and I already paid a lot of the rent in advance.
>>42898871Yeah, I guess you can stay for that time. Maybe it's not a safe place or you should stay vigilant or something. Maybe you will get attacked or people try to break in, something like that. Just be careful. Maybe clean the room with clorine cleaner to desinfect everything. Pray for a bit, evil spirits don't like it. I saw a documentary about the Las Vegas tunnels and two dudes said that sometimes they hear people walking next to them but noones there. So possibly other beings. That's why you should mark the room as your territory based on your like customs.
Spirit Love General"Good Evening~"DISCLAIMER:Some have reported attracting the attention of these entities by simply reading about them. If you're a dabbler who just wants to see if it works or if your faith forbids copulating with demons, don't summon. If you're unprepared for a potentially lifelong relationship, or at the very least, a life-long open door connection with sexual spirits and the occult, avoid this topic entirely. If you have a loving relationship with your human spouse or partner and desire a sex spirit to spice things up, or if you want a human partner in the future take caution, as these entities can be jealous or decide an initially open relationship is no longer so (request an open relationship during the summoning ritual). These spirits can harm or kill you when sufficiently angered and not easily banished.Last thread: >>42871041Old threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/%2Fsuccgen%2F/FAQ:>What are succubi?Female spirits of sexual desire, who often choose human mates. They can't be banished with holy objects>How to summon?The Letter Method is used to focus your intent into a message to one of the Four Succubus Queens, requesting that they match you with one of their daughters. No blood or soul sacrifice necessary. See links>Do they steal your life force?Succubi use sexual energy, which is released naturally during sex. Under normal circumstances they won't take your life energyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42897704>slightly alteredCons: You make us sound like a porn thread, right in the OP.Pros (???): You have conveyed to everyone that you have no interest in the topic and you're just horny. Valuable information?>>42897472>Jealous?That you have a sicophant?Good people don't want those...
>>42896971>if anything I am consistent
>>42898557Don't fight over me, girls.There's a piece of my heart for everyoneLike Jesus, I love all.
>>42898557>bitching about someone making a comment about wanting images posted on an image board>complains about "horniness" in a thread about sex spiritsyup, makes perfect sense this one does
>>42898557someone need to get the stick out of their ass (and I'm willing to bet its a big one)...last I checked, this is an image board and this thread is a about sexy spirit women>>42898627isn't that something we should all strive to be?
