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The banana psyop begins
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>>7827393
>isn't it ironic that the "radical" artists of today just poorly recite the dadaist playbook like a conservative dogma

Yeah, this is what kinda gets me about it.

I really don't think there's anything technically wrong with the banana, but it's making a point that's over 100 years old now and 'contemporary' art STILL hasn't gotten past it. We get it, anything can be art, I know you like concept, but can we please for the love of god move the fuck on and do literally anything else.
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>>7827529
Squint your eyes and ignore the nodraws.

>>7827610
>We get it, anything can be art
I disagree with this, but agree with everything else you've said.
I will say, if people still debate this point, isn't that in itself merit towards it not being true?
>"It causing this discussion validates the point"
That's like saying a videogame getting a shit review becomes a good videogames BECAUSE of that shit reviews, it's ridiculous.
People saying something is shit just means it's shit - that's all.
Just because there are discussions around how shit something is doesn't suddenly turn it into art or justify its existence, it's stupid circular 'Catch 22' logic.
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>>7827691
I think you can call it art, but only in the appropriate context. It's art when it's new and has something meaningful to say. But when that meaning is played out and contrived, it's just not art anymore, it's perfunctory. Like, there are a lot of videogames that are objectively shit by modern standards, but in the context of the development of videogame-ness are still a significant milestone. Art really did need to be broken out of the western old greek dude circlejerk and try something new, but we did that a long time ago, we don't need to keep doing it ad infinitum.
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>>7817559

God I want to see her taking a big, long crap in my toilet while I wipe her pink ass
>>7819554
Yeah, that bitch is unknown, some Pajeets might have a chance dming her for boobs and vagina pics
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>>7817559
These government money parasites feed off just negative attention at this point. Ignore it. Even having an opinion on it gives them some sort of credibility. Best way to go is to not comment on things that are irrelevant and non-sensical. Much like you wouldn't discuss the random mumblings of a toddler.

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Previously on /trad/: >>7781453
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>>7821714
that head is tiny. Come on Boug, whattaradoin'?
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>>7826653
ywnbad
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>>7826653
>heh, I'm LEAVING, see you next month, nerds! you're gonna be SO sorry and miss me VERY much, haha! it's not like I wanted your validation or anything, baka!
>stays in the thread and seethes
Why so tsun tsun, Brian?
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>>7826674
At least it looks like anything, innit?
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Painted a little robot guy.

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Yep, it’s basically over for nsfw artist. Account bans are becoming more common with the new paypal feature.
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>>7826158
Crapto shills never actually use it for actual transactions. Every one of them just hopes the next idiot will buy from them at higher prices they bought it
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Will this witch hunt on NSFW end? Humans have been drawing naked people since forever.
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>>7827075
You can just take normal bank transfers to your wise account, no?

>>7827161
Internally you can transfer money with just your email address.
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>>7827161
>>7824712
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>>7824485
Why can't fucking people acknowledge giving rights to women was a utter fucking mistake?

You have to be physically japanese to make it look like this
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>>7826857
>Walmart of art styles
>Every single westoid 'artist' pathetically fails at it
>Walmart of art styles
The levels of cope,kekw. Hope you enjoyed your loomis, because it permanently fucked up your chance to master this style!
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>nodraws vs perma/beg/ /asg/tards
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>>7827139
Yes there is some good anime art, but the vast majority of Anime art is pure slop. Flat, rushed, expressionless, and blatantly unoriginal. Even AI does a better job.
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>>7827646
>clearly modeled on the "$90000" anime, down to the colors and scene composition
>free
What is the point of this video, genuinely? That AI can enhance already finished work in very limited contexts? I guess so. It's also doing that faggot over-animated undulating crap in the last frame of the kid's hair, so you can tell it's still AI.
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>>7827663
>Butthurt because AI jeets are making billions while no one commissions his int ass
How many cases?

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>be me
>aspiring self-learn artist
>sign myself up for some free art projects for experience
>writer put me with another artist to work on a comic project
>bro claim to have a degree in sequential arts
>but the rendered art I see from them is that of similar to beginners artists on deviantart who just started drawing for 1-2 years
>anatomy all wrong + ass lightings
>colour value is barely distinguishable
>airbrush black shadow type shit
>generally, it looks flat cuz they don’t seem to have knowledge on light and colour
I don’t have an art degree. But you can’t possibly spend 3 yrs and $50k in art school just for ur art to look like this. I have no intention of shaming new artists, but I need to know whether this person is legit as they boast to me abt their degree.
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>>7826140
>they/them
Kill yourself
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Kek, I never got the concept of art school. Why go to school for something you already know how to do anyways? To slave away in the animation or design industry? In all seriousness though, I have never seen a competent person come out of an art school. It attracts people who want to wait to be spoonfed information, and this ultimately leads to perma/beg/ artskills. Also, most art teachers are ass, and just have you do gay ass art projects drawing a random vase or self portrait, many don't even cover the fundamentals and principles of art.
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I majored in art, and yeah a lot of art majors can’t draw. This anon highlights the issue >>7826148. I was lucky enough to have one teacher that was a bit more old fashioned and actually taught shit. Outside of the classes I took with that one teacher it was all these super restrictive bs assignments and a lot of reading and writing. Honestly I spent more time writing and read more about art than I did actually making art. On top of all that I had my non art classes and a job so I had almost no time to draw. I was pretty beg throughout my college years and didn’t actually start improving until I graduated. So I can definitely understand how an art major wouldn’t be very good at art

>>7826269
It’s charming, but kinda hard to gauge the skill level from doodles. Though being able to evaluate your own art is a skill that you need to develop if you want to improve. I’m curious as to what the other person’s art looks like now.
Are you planning on completing this project? You’re not getting paid and you’re probably not gonna gain much experience by working with someone below your skill level
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>>7827625
Post your work. I want to see how much you've improved
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>>7826278
Because they were retarded enough to fall for the college meme and got eternally indebted

>posts bad drawing
>becomes internet famous and reached meme status
And they say you couldn't make it as /beg/
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>>7801078
Mari is so hot
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>>7801078
He that penis neck on purpose, isn't?
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i've never seen frieren
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>>7800553
>>7801475
Shame, would have been nice to see the fecal matter being generated in Frieren's bowels
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>>7808799
How do you plan to prove your parents and relatives that you aren't an autistic sperglord doing childish stuff if you don't generate cash?

For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
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this new post capcha is gay
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>>7827623
that's not a question
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>>7827623
Anon failing the IQ test

Seriously though, it is awful
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>>7827732
I honestly don't see the problem, they're pretty simple and take about as much time as the previous letter/number string ones.
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>>7827738
It takes a bit longer, and requires a lot more manual input

Scroll bar, type thing

vs

Scroll bar, scroll bar back to find the thing, click next
Scroll bar, scroll bar back to find the thing, click next
Scroll bar, scroll bar back to find the thing, click next

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Previous Thread: >>7782607

If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.
>>>/ic/beg

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

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>>7827235
thank you
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Worked on this some more. It was a bit of a slog but its sharpening up.

Had to reduce resolution to be able to post
I blame canada for this,

Feel free to critique, repaint, modify, mock, meme , reference, photoshop, photobash, or whatever you wish to do with this.or to this.
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>>7827574
Her expression doesn't fit the mood, feels like something surprised her.
Also this seems ambitious for the quality of the drawing, tightening up the linework would help your image, but also make you more responsible for the detail and perspective in your BG.
It seems good as a starting point to a more finished piece, although being honest I don't find the situation or place that interesting at the moment. Maybe consider using some of the BG to the right as a place for resting the eye, normally using a clean sky would be a decent starting point, but for the tone of your scene (I'm thinking combat, danger, or skirmish) you could use some darker tones, maybe some smoke to imply there's a battle happening around them.
Just throwing some ideas, do whatever you like.
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>>7827614
Thank you for the critique. I really do appreciate it.

Unfortunately I did not make it clear. Im still working on it.

The quality is a little joke of having to downgrade the resolution. 99.9% of time it effects nothing just a bit of an annoyance

>Not finding the situation interesting

Fair enough. I tryed something , maybe it works, maybe it doesn't , seems like it didn't this time.
as i (hopefully) get better, i will (hopefully)make more interesting scenes
Hopefully.
I hope

Spoilers ahead??? I think.

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>>7827671
I see, taking from this
>And nobody came prepared for a potentially lethal encounter.
It'd make sense she's surprised, and that's partly what threw me off a bit, it'd make sense if she had her back turned to him, or she hasn't pulled her weapon, as a sign this is some sort of ambush. I guess it's a matter of timing, there's only so much you can show from a single character in a single frame.
I thought perhaps having a 2nd character to communicate this "surprise" or "shock" could help sell the idea, like a mule/squire being shocked as he lacks combat experience, while the axebarian seems more composed with her eyes wide open but already in the middle of a swinging motion, similar to yours, but with a little more force behind both her arms and a bit of a wide open, focused and with murderous intent, something out of pure reflex and survival instincts as a warrior.
There are plenty of possible interactions, like the ork grabbing her arm with his other arm ready to smash that rock on her head, while she's holding her weapon ready to counterattack, some of these interactions will keep you guessing based on timing, is she surprised? is she reacting? is he about to smash her head? is she gonna die? all of those scenarios can be depicted in a certain way. I think it's harder to try to communicate more than 2 at once, that's how I see it at least.
Also, here's an example of color palettes affecting the mood for a single scene, I think it helps keeping that in mind for context.

>NOOOOO! You can't draw for likes or views! You must drawing only for yourself
Fuck that. I love the validation I get from high view counts. It's my main motivator and it's what drives me a lot of the time. Animating is long work and without an audience it's basically for nothing. I also submit to film festivals as well. If I'm not making shit for an audience I might as well draw floating cubes like the rest of you miserable people
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>>7822434
im assuming you do fan art
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>>7822427
What do you draw
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>>7818759
/Ic/els are copium inhaling faggots that will kill themselves once their parents die
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>>7818759
no one has a gun to your head, dipshit
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>>7825567
But we men become older each year, and most men haven't succeeded in anything else this pathetic world has to offer

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.


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>>7821007
Wow I found a drawing I made six years ago and I have actually regressed
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>>7826312
>Wow I found a drawing I made six years ago and I have actually regressed

Of course you did if you don't practice regularly.
But you will relearn it much faster now, well only if you keep on practicing that is.
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>>7825157
Nigga.
Start with basic shapes and add guidelines to them.
Also you would benefit from line work training
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>>7818447
How much did ya practice to get to that level?
I can only so-so copy.
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how do i draw like imamura ryou? is it just round brush with no attributes? does he use underdrawings?

HOW DO I FUCKING LEARN COLOR THEORY?
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>>7825528
Get a cheap set of primary gouache/watercolors and go paint shit and match colors. It's an intuitive trial and error process. You'll understand color 100x times faster than with digital.
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>>7825528
There is simultaneously a lack of diversity in values and saturation. If I were you, I would ensure the foreground, background, and middle ground were each distinctly dark, light, and medium toned. Then, I would keep the values of the details within those planes kinda samey. Like the texture of the grass and stuff gets so light that its too similar to the clouds. Don't be afraid of desaturated browns, blues, and yellows, even dark ones. I would maybe focus on studying pictures that have both distinct warm and cool areas to practice this. Also, paint from life. The camera makes everything look like shit.
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>>7825528
nice use of AI there

prompt a cartoony version next
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>>7825549
> t. Leonardo
> he must begin by studying the parts which compose them
> And let him remember to acquire accuracy before he attempts quickness
those are the two points where you failed, OP.

you rushed, and didn't made individual studies. make 30 careful cloud studies. start at 30min, try 1h, 2h, 5h on the same reference.

>>7825718
color picking is useless. try again, try to be more accurate at every level. start monochromatically
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>>7825528
Nothing about this is color theory, this is a form problem.

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Hi , I was the one who created the post about my independent animated series NOST///SHOCK, currently finished the entire story, ask me anything about it.
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>>7823094
not OP, but you should do work that drives you to do more work. ONE made one punch man with a pretty rough skillset in the beginning, but his timing of releasing the story "before the art was good" allowed his story to reach a critically important core of what would become his audience and biggest fans, including murata, who would go on to binge the whole of what was released at the time, and who eventually offered on twitter (of all fucking places) to help him completely redraw OPM on what was effectively a gentleman's agreement so it could be properly published.
your work will speak to someone at any skill level. you have to put it out there first, though. don't let any critic, from here, elsewhere or god forbid yourself, stop you from doing so. you can always improve as you go anyway.
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Put the air brush down bro
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>>7823017
How did you learn animation?
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>>7823017

Mystery skulls enjoyer?
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>>7823017
What’s the story about? Can we see any works in progress?

The thread for soft core pornography hoarding.
Old thread:
>>7767293
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>>7827710
>>7827710
what's that?
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>>7827453
Mega nz?
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>>7827718
a woman's penis, basically
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>>7827718
anon I have a feeling your not 18+
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>>7827543
It's lossy, I tinkered for a while with compression settings and realised the cpu time and file size savings weren't worth if I went for lossless compression for so many files. I ended up finding a good compromise imo. I linked an example here for another anon >>7827442 here, it's the gofile link

>>7827719
Use decode sixty four

its been 2 moths since i was fired from my job and a week after that i broke my leg and i have a credit card debt of 1k. i have no way of paying for it...

anyway how long does it take to be good like this? is it achievable in a year or less?
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A year?
Buddy with the right prompt you can create this, today.
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longer than you have.
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>>7826960
i guess maybe 2-3 years if you study appropriately
good luck with the bills... you had a job before, im sure you can get another one
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>>7826960
2-4 years on average for normal people
just get unemployment/disability bucks
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>>7826960
hope you have family or good friends around; look for a more menial source of income

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Will it be better to become a trad artist in the future?
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>>7827398
those millions being boomers who can't even tell and third worlders like you
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You niggas really have to stop replying to such obvious bait
No one gives a shit what you say, especially the ones you're replying to, they just will think they epic trolled you.

Assuming they're not samefagging yet again.
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I know this is standard /ic/ bait thread no. 3402146 but I have to say... I'm so tired of the cope coming from artists with AI, they flood my twitter timeline with garbo memes an posts saying things that makes them look completely desperate. Yeah AI is here to stay, but humans will always want something made by another human ultimately. A handcrafted chair from a master will always be preferable than some 3d printed/ standard crap.
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>>7827675
Do they want that though? 99% of things are just automated or made in factories etc
Even art or photography etc. went through different stages of people complaining about new features/techniques
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>>7827419
>Most of them?
Bullshit

>the whole reason why people keep screaming "ai bros" and other shit.
Called it, lol. You claim that AI creators are very appealing to normies, so how are artists (the minority, as you put it) drowning them out?
I don't believe you either, remember how I ASKED you to show an AI artist who is being harassed whilst being forward about their AI usage?... Funny how you couldn't seem to do that, because it's as bullshit as your first claim.

>Hating AI is just a trend that will eventually fade out like everything else.
Just like AI itself will fade away? Just accept that AI users will forever be the butt of jokes, or the general trait or characteristic of terrible dull people

>And yes i know you will just give me some retarded reply.
Couldn't be anymore retarded than yours was.


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