Why did comic industries worldwide (including euro ones, don't point at 30+ decades old examples as counterpoints) beyond asian ones pretty much officially died around the mid 2010s after a long decline, and what should it take for a renaissance of the industry to happen? Unlike what some anons believe, It shouldn't make sense to aim for japan when you could easily make comics in your native country influenced by whatever you like and gain an audience just for that, but here we are I guess.
>>7926946>>7926974Despite people complaining about the netflix anime look today, funnily enough there's not a single American action/adventure cartoon from the late 90s to 2010s that WASN'T inspired by anime in some shape or fashion.
>>7924993The speculator market is what killed comics in the 90sNow you're bragging about the exact same thing happening to TCGs?
>>7924993I probably could have been rich I didn't know these cards were worth anything. My dad had a moving business and he got a whole tank load of these cards off this guy when I was a kid. Like thousands and thousands of these cards, unopened, I didn't know what to do with. But I didn't care about it because of Yugioh. There had to be some rare ones in there. I could have been a magic the gathering ebay seller or something.
>>7924963yeah here i took the time to take a picture
>>7924959I haven’t stepped into a Barnes & Nobel in 15 years. I can only imagine it’s just a hipster spot to sip coffee at in the front lounge and nobody buys books.
Does anyone have any good references/guides for torso twisting? Muscular males would be preferred
>>7925075That doesn't account for the muscles.
>>7923152NMA’s references are gold
>>7926443Eh, simplified forms don't really include a lot of muscles. It's optional Best track is learning gestures along with a bit of surface anatomy at the same time. Then you can simplify it. Best end game is animation. The other one is fine arts like sculpting and painting.
>>7926454nice anon
>>7925742Why can you always identify Chink art by how soulless it is? How is it possible that in a civilization of one billion people, all of them are soulless bugmen? I don’t get it.
>free crayons
>>7924726more like cryons
>>7930905You can color in a BBC and attract thousands of snowbunnies.
>>7931106cry
>>7924743fpwp
I don't watch vtrooners but didn't one just get arrested and turned out to actually be a man? So >>7924743 is right
old >>7908407
>>7932749I intensely dislike scene paintings where nothing is happening, I just don't understand how anyone would spend hours painting them without realizing the painting is fucking boring.Like what even is the scene, women getting well water? Paint young girls gossiping off to the side, a young guy looking at them wistfully, some old crone nagging at her daughter in law, a woman struggling to tardwrangle her young son while carrying a fucking jug on her head, something other than "woman walking away". Mundane doesn't have to mean literally zero interaction or activity
>>7932675Da juice dindu nuffin! Simon of Trent is blood libel! Leo Frank was innocent! Gaza is Pallywood!But—oy vey!—the Nazis turned my grandma into a lampshade and killed my grandpa with their masturbation machine, and if you doubt me you're going to jail!
...painting?
>>7932784Are you a grill
>>7932807No, I have a nice hefty cock that I ply exclusively on women beyond my station
This guy can draw perfectly in the skullgirls artstyle Have you ever liked another persons artstyle so much you use it?
>>7932115This thread was on page 10 you dumb nigger why did you bump it to add absolutely nothing of worth to it
>>7926829>This guy can draw perfectly in the skullgirls artstyle>perfectlyI can tell you are a beglet/nodraw.
>>7926838Kek
>>7926829>implying I have the skills to successfully copy someone's style in the first place
for most of the year 2000 i drew in toriyama's style.
So in short, I really enjoy my current method of storytelling (Text narrative + illustrations) because the format is great for a solo creator who works full-time and enjoys creating complete tales. I also have a small audience, and I know a few people enjoy what I do.However, one big reason I went the "light novel" route is because although the workload is tough and demanding for a solo person, its not a soul-crushing experience.For comic artists/animators (or former ones), I was wondering if you could talk about your relationship with the workload. Did you love it? Hate it? Do you think you got enough external validation? Etc. Overall, I'm just looking for a reality check of sorts from the other side of the pond.
>>7926973>Bro people don't draw here. They LARP about being an artist and hoard resources>n-no that's not REAL drawing, you have to be a pro to count pyw
>>7926973you know there are more than just thread right? There's like a good 3 or 4 threads that consistently have a high skill level. I'm not going to point you to them, but the fact that you don't know of their existence suggests you don't actually use this board for more than wasting time
>>7926413It's work. A lot of work, but work.Don't ever do it for external validation because it will be a long time before you get any that doesn't make you question the sincerity of the person.>Overall, I'm just looking for a reality check of sorts from the other side of the pond.The grass isn't greener over here.>>7926972Hello, that ain't me though. I'm not a pothead.
>>7926413hello there 7 years /beg/ anon :D
>>7928604Who is 7 years /beg/ anon? Because I've also been a /beg/ for 7 years and it would be kinda weird if there were two of us.
ITT pencils only you like
>>7917848good shit hope the 6b satisfies you for dark grades also their sharpeners are fucking amazing, sad i lost mine.
>>7924667thanks
>>7901289What's the point of using a pencil with such thin lead if you're gonna bs the shading/ have hairy lines?
>>7928543what’s the issue
Do I need to do Drawabox? I can't draw a box for shit mane.
>>7932438Do you have tips on how to learn? I'm beg btw
>>7932443>Draw a bunch of boxes at different angles>ask:"Was that easy for me, or kinda hard?">If kinda hard:>Draw more boxes >if easy>Do something elseIt's not complicated, drawabox pitches you really grind lines and boxes, if those are a struggle for you, they're probably both worth your time, even if you don't go with drawabox to practice them.
>>7932424What do you want to learn to draw? Anime characters, anatomy, backgrounds, landscapes, animals, portraits?
>>7932424good enough cubes pal, i think is time to start drawing naked bald old man
>>7932463Thank You Angel
Why does this board is never discussing A.I. art?
>>7929074Wait, so using AI is supposed to prove it’s bad? That’s a weird flex. If it’s actually useful enough that you’re leaning on it to make your point, you’re kind of undercutting yourself. Either it’s trash and you shouldn’t need it, or it’s helpful — in which case acting like using it is some kind of own doesn’t land.But sure, keep shaking your fist at the machine while quietly using it anyway — real cutting-edge Luddite energy.
ai is only 'threatening' soulless commodity art and the people mad about it are just worried about money and ego. The people making HR slides, toothpaste ads and FOTMs in a white-void are fucked; and being mad some indian can replace your job with chatGPT like they did for blue collars is fair. But were you REALLY putting your heart into that fintech 'whoopsie doodle' 404 page or bocchi the rock feet pic? Maybe i'm just a jaded salaryfag because i put personal passion into my corpo 'dream job' before losing it, but there needs to be a separation between Art(tm) as a commodity and art as an expression. I'm guilty of playing with localgens to make some /d/eranged gooner comic for myself to see how far into niche internet fetish art i could take it- and while it did take a lot of manual shooping and mspaint to gamble on the seeds, i got something well above my technical drawing ability. BUT I didn't actively make it with any emotion. there's no personal expression, it's like getting linux to work. it's deterministic. the picture is not art. there was too much separation between my input and the final output. it's like saying youre a sculptor because a seed you planted became a flower. The garden arrangement is the only part that could be considered art, despite the final output being the pretty part ai art is not art, but it is a cheaper substitute for Art(tm). If you liked drawing, you'd do it regardless of money or attention. If your art is worth paying for, people will pay for it. Maybe you just need to be honest on valuing your art through the 'Art(tm)' lense. What does it offer versus your competition? People still go to farmers markets. there's still an economy out there for handmade bakeries despite factories existing. Are you trying to sell handmade doritos in front of a walmart? human batteries having their neurons tickled by jingle keys sloptent has existed for decades now. the only difference between fruit love island and finger family is scale.
>>7931223>pretending to be retarded
Can I post ai pics on this board? I’m looking for a board where threads don’t sink without constant bumps.
>>7932674It's not against the rules but idk what the point would be. It's a "learning to draw" board and no one here considers AI to be actually "drawing". No one is going to give you advice on prompts or training loras or whatever.If you just want to talk about the aesthetics merits of AI pics then that's also allowed, but again most people will probably just shit on it if they know it's AI.
>Basic programshttps://opentoonz.github.io/e/https://www.synfig.org/https://motorpen.comhttps://tupitube.com/https://youtube.com/shorts/b4t-bS6zdUo?si=y1oY-ZGhK9Vzw6ZD>Where should (you) start?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqjIdI4bF4&t=674s [Embed] [Open]https://www.mediafire.com/file/cqz7iwex4mtzidu/ <---- [The Animator's Survival Kit *Video* course]http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/https://bitey.com/pages/fx <---- [2D effects animation course:]>Resources, Reference and Suchhttps://vimeo.com/groups/anirefComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7932063I'm just optimising effort to the part everyone will focus on
How do you guys do your lines? Do you>go bit by bit doing line work for each individual chunk to ensure everything lines up correctly (i.e. exclusively line the head, then do the body, then do the arms etc)or>complete every frame at once and get it done in one streakI do the former and I feel like a fraudAlso Im practicing animating liquids splashing and splooshing
>>7931356Jeeeeeet saaar
>>7932342The latter. The former seems like tons of work and I don't think I'd ever complete anything without getting burnt out if I did that
For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.Previous thread: >>7852768
>>7930139Just stop drawing and never do it again. It's a waste of time and energy.
Is OLED monitor a good investment for drawing?
>>7931978Once you're pro (doing Studio work), yeah.
What should I be taking out of gesture drawings?Whenever I'm drawing gesture I feel like I'm getting a basic feel for proportion, weight, and movement, but not necessarily improving too much in any one of those specifically. Is there something I should be putting more focus on?Following Hampton's book btw.
>>7884923quick question, what is a good ai for funny prompts like pic related. Chatgpt doesn't like this kind of stuff and i want to keep that clean program anyways. thanks
Thread to study the adult male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute guys and handsome men.Some resources:>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videosRules:>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.>No shota. Go to /lsg/ for that.>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male-focused.>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I had a lot of fun doing this
>>7932661trannyslop
>>7932534Thank you, I'll take that into consideration. He grows his hair out when he goes off-script, but while he's in the military he has to keep it short. And while I get what you're saying, it's kind of the point that he's not ACTUALLY this perfect statuesque icon, he's a fragile, clingy schizo who is forced into that role due to his powers. I'll play with his proportions a bit more though.>>7932527>>7932578This isn't really actionable feedback lol.
grown ass man
>>7932495I thinks he's hot and I really like the design I guess I would suggest some broader shoulders for a more confident heroic posture.If they are narrow on purpose, perhaps the costume can compensate for it with even broader/larger shoulder pads to give of the same effect. Then again, I'm a beg/int so not very confident is my assessment.
Post some inspoArt you likeArt you loveArt that inspires you
>>7927864this is diarrhea dookie, go ahead and ejaclimate. let the post cum clarity settle in and realise your mistake worthy of a month's penance of embarrassment
>>7931224>posters haven't been a thing at all since 2010sYou're opinion isn't even worth considering when you say something this objectively retarded. Posters aren't a thing? Get the fuck outta here. It's fine to disagree, but to so blatantly lie to try and make your point is pathetic, my dude.
>>7932745>my dudego back to collecting stamps, grandpa
Do you consider drawing a distraction? I think this has a lot to do with wether you are in the mood to draw or not.I was talking with an anon about this, saying that I see drawing more like something like meditation, while he was saying it is a distraction. Maybe meditation itself is a distraction, who knows?It's difficult to pin point, because when you draw, you are basically just looking at a blank paper for most of the time, struggling with your own thoughts.But then again, you also can watch other stuff while drawing, on the side.I would think anyone can agree that watching something like YouTube can be considered a distraction. You have a screen in front of you and watch something on the internet. That's a distraction. But this also can become boring, just sitting there the whole time looking at a screen with people doing something.Now if you start drawing at the same time, you basically can distract yourself from the distraction of looking at your screen. So basically drawing becomes a distraction itself then, right?If you just draw in an empty room, without a screen or anything, then drawing basically also is a distraction, but not a very good one. It requires a lot of discipline to just work on a paper the whole time with nothing else to look at. But if you have a screen with somethung running on the side, then it's basically a decent distraction, right?A big reason for people not feeling in the mood to draw is that drawing requires a lot of patience. But if you rather view drawing as a distraction, then it basically shouldn't require any patience anymore. What is your opinion on this? Is drawing a distraction or not?
>>7931764cute frog
>>7931741If you become a junkie or smash your skull you can't do anything anymore and life becomes even more unbearable.Thanks for proving my point tho. retards like you don't understand simple logic, so you think life is a flower world.
>>7931827It's almost as if you can't even comprehend what I said
Distraction from what? Your day job, personal issues, life in general? I find it very strange to call art, or any other pursuit people like to engage with, a distraction. Sure, you might doodle during a boring meeting or lecture as a distraction, but as a hobby or perhaps a side job drawing is the thing you focus your energy on. Anything that requires discipline and cognitive skills, be it as a hobby or as a job, is something people often strive to do because they want to, because it's fun. Why would it be a distraction?
This is the Distraction. This is what you need to stop. The only thing that's worth anything here are the Torrent/refs, there's no solid critique advice nor recommendations that's worth distracting you. If youre worried about being serious find a better place to spend your time. Your environment dictates how your mind is shaped, what you consume shapes you and the majority people here are begs, permabegs, coom artists and schizos so choose which one you'd like to be.
Post your art and let other anons comment on it.I'll start.
>>7931923Thanks mate
>>7931693the references' subject is retarded and obese.
these threads are great for reminding myself everyone who shits on my work on this board is far below my skill level and have the most autistic taste imaginable
>>7932653Obligatory pyw. >I don't need to>I'm famous >No you pyw>EtcTypical deflection by a pussy bitch
