How to balance a setting where elves are the main player race? Since they all live super long.
>>95060621>Also I think one of the biggest problems with and a very underutilized aspect of RPG's is an inability for players to properly concieve how Non-Human societies and cultures would operate and there's a strong tendency for players and GM's alike to transpose human culture and societial institutions and psychology on not just Elves but other races as well.I'm extremely guilty of this, honestly. My current party is in a predominantly elf country at the moment and they're just sexier humans with magic and smugness.
>>95060621>>95067700we are humans and can not experience anything but what the human experience gives usbut by becoming aware of the limits of our own thinking we can surpass those limits and try to break our own convictionswe have to question our own line of thinking instead of replicating unquestioningly patterns we have seen beforefor a human it is unthinkable what another otherworldly being would think BUT we can get closer by questioning our own thinkingI feel like too many fiction authors replicate human ideals and ideas without becoming aware that the creatures they write about are not humanGood Xenofiction is so hard to find; true elven stories shouldn't be fantasy but Xenofiction, the more alien the elves are the more I like themI guess that's why I like Skyrim and Warhammer: the elves feel like they're actually 'different' and have their own culture and norms; I feel like for Forgotten Realms they don't do enough with the surface elves; I liked Drizzt, but in the end I enjoyed the sections about drow society more than Drizzt himself, who was pretty boring and then there were the Drow Communists...
I can't think of doing anything interesting with Tolkienesque elves they're interesting to have in a setting but boring to play as and I much rather want to play a gandalf simulator where you got to tard wrangle mortals without interfering directly too much (except for when another entity on your level gets in the way in which case you can go all out and smash them to molecules) could make it PvP, you got your group of mortals and they've got theirs
>>95050637A shame as I have some great concepts myself
>>95036977What like Hyrule?
Why isn't this discussed more often around here. It is as old as D&D. Also recommendation for Bronze Age systems.
>>95062771Arkati Trickster Chadman
Speaking of ducks, who's the fattest fowl in the pond? I suppose ones in Lismelder lands obey Lismelder king and ones in Beast Valley follow the Ironhoof, but it's slightly weird there's no Duck King, even on the clan level. Who's in charge of Quackford?
>>95052026Two out of three of your problems are solved by telling your players to stop their metagaming faggotry.
Do the Elder races worship the gods humans do? I mean they have the gods obviously associated with their race, but the pantheons are vast and pretty universal. Do they tell stories of Orlanth who shakes the leaves?
>>95068400It depends. Vast, vast majority of dwarfs and trolls follow their own pantheons. Dwarfs almost exclusively worship Mostal the World Machine, while Trolls follow very popular Kyger Litor and associated Darkness deities. If they worship something else, they are almost certainly outcasts and exiles. In Pavis there's dwarven cult of Flintmail, deified dwarf architect and friend of the founder of the city. Some dwarves in Caladraland either worship or just get along well with followers of Lodril and Caladra and Aurelion. Apparently, in Shadow Plateau, one in twenty trolls follows Orlanth, while one in fifty - Stormbull.For elves, check the pic. Yelm also should be there somewhere, but maybe he's subsumed under Yelmailo. Plants like the sun and fertile soil.Orlanth broke the world, which is why most non-Orlanthi hate him. Wind children are one exception and they all worship him, but disregarding his violent aspects and focusing on freedom, flight and Air.Mythology book, source of the pic, has a percentage breakdown like that for all lands of Central Genertela.
Is there a single interesting or unique mechanic in Shadowdark? >uhhh you use a timer irl for your torches. Already existed. This "game" could have been a blog post, in the way so many work meetings could've been an email.
>>95062559way I understand it, real time is the upper boundary of how long an in-game action can takeso 10 in-game minutes can last 10 real time minutes, or just 30 real time seconds if the players skip aheadbut they absolutely cannot take 15 real time minutesbasically, you can set the speed to 2x, but not 0.5xI hope reddit spacing triggers somebody
>>95063179>Literally an entire section called Real Time in bold >Explaining tracking torches in real time >Buuubiut but that's nonnnot real time!!!
>>95065251>Entire section calling you a faggot>BUUUUUT he claims he's not a faggot
>>95065259Nou.
>>95062197>SIDF can point to Pundit being transparently asshurt and trying to dig up dirt and blackball her.[citation needed]
So I'm going to be running a game soon where one of the antagonistic forces that the player characters are going to encounter early on are your standard cannibal ape-men, riffing on the troglodytes from Bone Tomahawk a bit. Dump your monke man art, I'll get us started.
>>95049329>>94964135>>94963338at long last, we're getting to the reproductive crunch>>95045119>When you have monster apemen, they MUST rape people. Rape apes.truth
>>95062614>Sexualising the monkey men?>That's a paddlin'
>>95062422Source?
How seriously does your group take civilian deaths caused, intentionally or unintentionally by your characters? Do you or any in your group actively try to ratchet up civilian deaths, or go to great lengths to avoid them?
>>95062258That sounds awesome! My group has some stories, but they don't really compare to your group. You should make a comic or something of these, I'd definitely buy it.
>>95060408Minimize if feasible. Civilian fatalities are to be avoided, but anyone using human shields or hostages specifically counting on that is in for a rude awakening.
>>95062800>minimizedYou spelled maximized wrong
>>95068163No, I didn't. Maybe you confused reality with your fantasies again.
>>95060408>Theoretical question asking about an abstract problem in poorly defined situationThey don't give a single fuck
This is a thread for us wizardchads, sorcerers and general spellcasters Tell me how you play them, what you tend to center your characters and playstyles around, and what your favorite spells are.
>>95031971The only necromancer I played was more concerned with prolonging his own lifespan/seeking immortality than making zombies.
How do we feel about Spellblades?
>>94914862>le reddit meme build 5e player tried that once in the only game that they ever tried playing with us and ragequit. >Cast fireball point blank not realizing I've DMed since 94 and know how to deal with shenanigans >My normal players well aware of this and have played with me for 10+ years on average >Inside of wooden building with 10 foot ceilings/multiple stories >Break out ye olde' 3.5 material damage and hardness rules >calculate blast radius spread/damage >meme wizard blows out flooring under them + ceilings above them.>take fall damage going into basement and lands smack in the middle of a holding pen for prisoners. This is where they keep the REAL valuable prisoners. >Building is on fire now.>Other players gtfo >Guards gtfo cause they know they layout/exit. Can't fight a fire like that with a sword and dagger you know?>Meme wizard dies from building collapsing on them + smoke inhalation >Rest of party has to book it out of town because Guards are after them and crawling out of everywhere >Guards literally have a horn system to alert each other of where to get to.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>94976596That's actually extremely based.
>>94921367"Wizard school" is cringe unless it's an ultra elite or secret organization. It shouldn't be something you can "enroll in" and "go to" even if you are born with high aptitude. Questionable ethics, disturbingly bankrolled, black boxes only. A wizard shouldn't sit at a desk unless it is their own.
It's about time, why did GW wait a decade and a half giving NPCs like the Raven Guard rules for their Leaders but not the Worldeater Matriarch?https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uu8prgos/angron-ascends-and-the-conqueror-gets-its-captain-in-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/
>>95064237>like she put it there herself.Looks too small for her hand.
>>95063856>"Lotara is everything the Primarch is not – calm, level-headed, and respected by the World Eaters."So, why is her model a screaming maniac waving a sword?
>>95063856>WE are mad because the chirping of all the fire alarms on all their ships
You retarded fuckers are so retarded you didn't even notice that the OP's filename is tell you this is a bait thread.
>>95066607Yes, and...?
Would B/X D&D and/or AD&D be the best system for running a game inspired by old Final Fantasy (1 - 6). I'm talking about exploring an overworld, getting into adventures, finding cities with problems and dungeons to explore and best. I don't have much experience playing these systems but seeing how FF1 basically just ripped of the AD&D monster manual wholesale and how you can easily reskin classes from older D&D into FF jobs (fighter/mage or B/X elf as Red Mage, Cleric as White Mage etc) it seems like the best fit.
>>95065112"Material to know" is the precisely wrong way to think about GURPS.The first and most important thing to know about GURPS is that it is not a ruleset. It is a toolkit. Just like how LEGO is not the Millennium Falcon. You pick and choose the blocks as you design and build the Millennium Falcon. But you could use those same blocks to build whatever else if you wanted to. LEGO blocks are not something you have to "know" beyond just understanding that you can snap them together.There's a lot published with the GURPS logo on the cover. But like.... ok? Right on the front cover in huge bold letters it tells you what the book contains. Are you running transhuman cyberpunk spaceships? No? Then why do you need to look in that book? Are you running Wild West cowboys? Are you running WW2 commandos? Are you running interdimensional psychic ninjas?No?Then you don't need to look in those books.Are you running super simple little sword-and-sorcery dungeon exploration RPGs? Then look in the Dungeon Fantasy books. It's that easy. They even compiled and condensed everything into a single stand-alone product so that you can run it with just those few books and you don't even need Basic Set for it. And you can run all of Final Fantasy 1 with nothing but just DF1: Adventurers and DF2: Dungeons. And if you're familiar with GURPS already, you don't even need those, you could run it with GURPS Lite which is like three pages. Three PAGES."Tons of books"??? I don't know where the fuck you kids get these ideas.
>>95044156You can literally do everything you described wanting to do with B/X.>Overworld exploration Make a hex crawl map.>Finding towns and quests.Use hex crawl map + locations >Explore dungeonsGet graph paper, make dungeon >Ressurect in town NPC cleric in town. >Converting classes elf= red Mage etcThat's already been done. Just give red Mage access to cleric/wizard spells. They're still limited to castings per day.>White Mage No armor Make a white Mage class. Just use wizard and give them cleric only spells.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>95066193Well... black mages are mediocre at best. They "blow stuff up" if the stuff is just a group of trash mobs that would die in two rounds anyway. So it saves you one round of combat. The only reason it was important in the original Final Fantasy games is that some of those trash mobs were cocatrice or other petrifying foes, so you had to wipe the whole encounter in one turn or else it was a hard-guaranteed TPK. And they had a teleport spell, so that could be handy.But by mid game they were already a burden on the team and they contribute absolutely nothing in the last two boss fights. It was a pretty famously awful situation. Like to the point that "black mages, man...." was a meme all the way until after the '90s (and Vivi still caught a lot of flak for it, though the character was charming enough that he was mildly popular in spite of his terribad performance in the game, mechanically).To be sure, they weren't as bad as thieves, though. You needed a thief in the early game to keep up with the demand for potions (because your white mage's spells are NOT gonna last long enough to get through an entire dungeon), but their contribution otherwise was just garbage by mid-late game. Especially their class promotion into Ninja did nothing for them.But anyway.Yeah, the "herp derp how do you make a cleric who can't wear armor?!" idiocy has me throwing my hands up in despair. Just tell your players they can't wear armor or use weapons, guys, it's not hard.
What would be a good system for Dragon Quest
>>95068383Sword World
Recently I read the 2e book Menzoberranzan and it might be my favorite d&d book I’ve ever read, the focusing on one culture in such an alien environment, going over taboos, typical drow mentality, holy days etc really made the dark elves seem unique and fleshed out, which ultimately I think should be the goal of almost every humanoid race.Which made me think, why haven’t we gotten a similar book for most other races? Especially orcs, a favorite of mine, which never seem to get much official material written about them. So here is a thread for bouncing ideas about what you ultimately think should be a part of orcish living and settlements, everything from physical description, outlook on life, what gods they worship and why, where they live, either in caves like 1e or more nomadic wanderers like modern editions. If you were going to make something like the Elder Scrolls Orsinium in a Ttrpg what would you make sure to include?
All orcs should breed giant war boars to ride.
>>95055910>"They kill and steal for Killstealius. Stop asking stupid questions and roll the dice, we have 3 more random encounters to get through after this."That's dumb. It's fine if you want to have a race that exists solely as a guilt free XP delivery device in your campaign (assuming you do have one, right anon?), but that's so fucking out of place in so many stories. "I don't like it so it's not worth exploring for anyone" is the mindset of a stupid child who won't eat their vegetables. Faggot.
>>95066141I accept your concession, cope harder miserable faggot
>>95066683I’ve never been the biggest fan, but I can see how they could be appealing, I always thought as something like a seperate species as I do really enjoy the moblin type enemies from the LOZ and think they could fit in fine. My one problem with beastmen type races is they don’t have any visual distinction from the “beast” half of them a lot of the times outside of being bipedal. A goat man is literally just a goat on two legs instead of, a more interesting, goat-like or inspired design. Think even like, the werewolf from American Werewolf in London or Dog Soldiers, you can tell they’re based on wolves sure, but they still look “distinct” but anyway going back to orcs and porcs, another way I’ve thought about solving this is just to have theme use wild boar as cattle / dire boars as mounts, maybe they worship a god who bestows being a wereboar on certain members as a blessing. That bravely default design is very charming though, I will admit >>95059380I know Tolkien always struggled with the sort of morality of the orcs but modern orcs are pretty divorced from what he had in mind at this point I think. They get the sunlight weakness sure but the orcs in the LOTR are more like modern day goblins, they’re short, squat things while the modern idea of an orc is usually much bigger than a man and built broad and sturdy. I don’t see why these can’t be either subspecies or distinct but partially related groups though, he’ll forgotten realms has neo-orogs as the lab grown orc villains for the wizards of Thay and while I find the name pretty stupid it does let you have your tribal savage orcs and your dark lord fodder at the same time. >>95066141I know this is just shitposting but all this brings to mind is the two orcs Samwise overhears in Mordor talking about wanting better lives lol, there is moral depth to the orcs in Tolkien, pretty blatantly actually
>>95067124I do feel like this should be a more common thing for orcs, boars as mounts just feels correct, the question becomes, what about wargs? Do you give them to some other race as mounts or do you combine wargs with dire boars because I do enjoy the relationship between orcs and their wolf-ish mounts. Usually the hounds are more intelligent than their riders and won’t hesitate to start picking off members of the tribe if food gets too scarce
>walk into Target for the first time in ages>have been getting back into MTG as of late, and head over to the card section just to see what’s there>get there and there’s some worker stacking Pokémon boxes, and lined up behind him there are fifteen fucking people, waiting at 3PM on a Thursday to scalp Pokémon cards>the line is filled with the elderly, the underage, single mothers with toddlers in their shopping cart, white trash, black trash, neckbeards, even a downie>well thankfully I’m there for MTG so I walk right on past them and check out Aetherdrift>everyone in the line starts shouting at me, I explain that I’m not there for Pokémon>even the wagie shelf stacker is suspicious and says I can’t be there while he’s stacking>I’m bemused as fuck, dare I say more bemused than I’ve ever been in my entire life because I’m getting yelled at by all these scalpers for trying to buy a completely different card game (that I actually want to play, not scalp)>anyhoo, I walk away and join my friend who’s checking out and start bitching at him about what just happened (he saw the whole thing)>just then the shelf stacker finishes his first stack and steps back>the line falls apart, one wigger starts pushing and shoving people and grabs a fuckton of boxes and runs away, cursing them out>neckbeard Redditor starts screaming and shouting for security, who were waiting close by>tears are spilling down the single mom’s face, nevertheless she still has like six boxes in her cart>downie is just staring into space, dumbfounded>redditor is insisting the wagies go confront the wigger (now in self checkout) and take away his Pokémon cards and give them to the Redditor Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>95066152I might for that much. I am almost tempted to basically trade it in for the recent print of junk warrior, but idrc.
>>95055998where are the dice, dude?
>>95060864Pokemon cards are way less embarrassing than cryptocoins or NFTs.
>>95055998>>95065785Wouldn't surprise me. I'm UK based and my flgs has a real problem with people coming in off of the street to steal pokemon boosters, they had to move them to a shelf facing the till. A friend of mine also buys cards to flip, but he's more casual about it than these box+ of boosters nightmare stories.I don't understand it myself.>>95065785
>>95056024Saying he was going to buy Aetherdrift Drift was a big tell
A setting where the living city is a whale and all its inhabitants sea people and draugr
>>95068130>the big bad of the game is an omnicidal radical priest of the whale god who wants to free his beloved deity of the parasites that chafe him.
>>95068024Such a deep setting I'm so immersed.Having a whale of a time.
>>95068191For what porpoise are you posting like this?
>>95068103cool
>>95068024... ok?
I wish gatekeeping was real so that certain people wouldn't be allowed to enter the community. This has been a problem for decades now but its become really bad the last few years. Browsing through my local game store and having to listen to normies talk about their favorite episode of critical fail is sickening. This board has also been totally infested by these subhumans. I wish I had a time machine and go back to when this hobby wasn't overrun by these pathetic mockeries of human decency.
>>94995791I've been playing Drow, Kobolds and Dwarves since 2008Nothing you can do to stop me OP
>>95066468I think we're coming up on 111 now aren't we? Think it'll be within 3 years or by 2030. Either way, I bet it'll be the last time too many people are pissed off
>>95061663Whaaat? No wayy that changes everyyything But seriously though that doesn't change anything and only tells me you're a sheep.
>>95061663nobody can be your president when you're sovereign citizen
>>95011873The solution is go to church and cheat there.
Yu-Gi-Oh! General #566Justice for Apollousa EditionPrevious thread: >>94935940Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CAC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online PlayAutomated Sims:●EDOPro website:https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●EDOPro:https://discord.gg/ygopro-percy●YGO Omega:https://discord.gg/duelistsunite●Dueling Nexus:https://duelingnexus.com/●Master Duel:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>95065300You realize that half of Maliss builds are Cyberse Soup, right? Where do you think those cards come from?
>>95064156Kind of, the comparison falls apart at that point though. An experienced player on a weaker character in other PvP games can still defend against S+ tier characters with enough knowledge and physical skill, but in a card game that's not an option beyond luck of the draw, as the other anon mentioned. It'd be like if Vergil/Zero/etc could survive enough damage to kill other characters multiple times over on top of their offensive flexibility, while the devs were still updating and balancing the game and leaving the massive power disparity alone.
>>95066427>An experienced player on a weaker character in other PvP games can still defend against S+ tier characters with enough knowledge and physical skill, but in a card game that's not an option beyond luck of the draw, as the other anon mentioned.Pure Fire King literally just won a YCS last weekend.
>>95066581https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWUiqnflbBY
>>95066427Adding on to what the other anon mentioned, Pure Ancient Gear infamously got Top 8 at the Fargo WCQ Regional, when Fire King/Fiendsmith/Snake-Eye and Tenpai were running rampant> https://youtu.be/3VDycPOJFVQThe fighting game comparisons become a lot more apt when you consider scenarios like this. Where people can spend all their time preparing for top-tier threats in their meta, while completely foregoing practice for the random strong-but-untiered decks/mid-to-low tier fighters that are lurking in the shadows. Corbin went 6-0 in this event because nobody was prepared for the protection that Ancient Gear is able to set up, in addition to its big numbers. With better matchup knowledge, people know to never let them get their backrow set up, maybe using Fiendsmith's Desirae to blank them so that you can use the rest of your tech to screw them over. Mertjan lost gracefully here, too. It was a breath of fresh air to see someone completely befuddled by some of the obscene shit printed in this game without being angry.
Hey guys, the character options for eclipse phase 2E is finally out!You can get it for free on rob boyles website https://robboyle.info/#eclipse-phase-pdfs How have your EP games been going?
What did post human mean by this?
>>95060993Realistically you'll just be outcompeted by a posthuman with less retarded objectives who's more focused on his singularity seeking and die anonymously in space like so many others
>>95060993You need:>The expertise and equipment necessary to create alpha forks of yourself.>Enough processing power and data storage to do the above at a reasonable pace.>The expertise and nanofabricator necessary for producing a suitably dangerous morph, such as a Reaper.>Access to the schematics of a suitably dangerous morph, such as a Reaper.>The expertise necessary to jailbreak the schematics, as they often come with all sorts of locks and limitations that prevent them from being printed by anyone.>Enough of the requisite materials to make a small army of them.>An armada of spaceships that can ferry them through the system and the expertise to pilot them.>Enough energy to enable all of the above.Have you accomplished all of that?Congratulations, but you're still a decade behind everyone else who had the same plan, and who are still nowhere near conquering the solar system. Governments and corporations still exist for a reason, cooperation is still the best way of getting shit done.
>>95034101Bump
>>95062577>sufficiently dangerous morphNot really, morphs get blown the fuck out in space combat.War is dominated by ships because they can mount 10x damage scale guns and go fast. The only thing you can use to realistically fight them at the morph scale are stacked explosives and the number of combined claymores you need to print to skeet a spaceship of out the sky is a lot higher than the amount they would need to glass your city on a planet just due to range limits.Also, most would-be singularity seekers with bodied morphs are just going to get facefucked by ETIs/titans because if you have 100000N bodies you have 100000N times the infection rolls you have to make as soon as there's a basilisk hack. The reason why fork storms can be stable on places like glitch is that it's just an autistic little box that can't even see the physical surface of the hab it's on let alone anything going on outside.>invade the moon>some guy outside who killed his family and walked out onto the surface to work on his art sees you and drops his pants>go mad from the revelation of Thing ballsRealistically the only thing ever worth sleeving into outside of an infomorph is a hab brain, and RAW they didn't actually print one with 40s (though this does seem extremely incongruous with the descriptions of the best ones, and the hab brain stats is only a minimal example anyway).
It's fucking weird, but I've recently seen a lot of players who don't actually like 'threatening' scenarios where they can fail or be undermined. It's like they assume they win by default, and get upset when they fuck up.>Players rushing to interrupt cult sacrifice>They take too long, NPC gets sacrificed because they were waiting for an opening>Booed out of the village as the girl's mother weeps and the father collapsesI mean, what did they think would happen? Did they think the townsfolk would go "At least you tried, don't be upset"?
>>95058271This pisses me off because I'm always the player who instigates and our DM punishes us every single time.>Party twiddles their thumbs and fucks around for half an hour>DM punishes us for being passive>Decide to take charge with a plan to rush things along>Oops, your plan is wrong, get punishedI want to play the game and I'm stuck between a rock and some retards.
>>95058271That's retarded. Yeah there's the cocasional hysterical cunt when a firefighter fails to do their job, but for the most part people recognize when someone is risking their life to help others.Basically, you're an idiot and you need to live in the world more. You're operating on pure cartoon comic bullshit "logic" where spiderman is seen as a shitty criminal barely better than the villains he's stopping instead of the guy doing the job the government won't.
>>95061246You already did.
>>950631141. You're an idiot. It sounds like they just got there late. It's not like the cult had a big lit up sign reading SACRIFICES HERE outside their lair.2. Some of my characters would have actively killed the chick they were supposed to rescue anyway.
>>95065268Most adventurers are violent and have superpowers. The meal ruining villagers are lucky that when they told them about the cultists that the party didn't just say "lol" before raping all the hot women publicly and torching the town.