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Hello /vst/, its been a while since this has been talked about hasn't it. Yeah, needless to say Spring went horribly, in fact I couldn't even post to tell you guys the cup was going on because the fucking site was down. Regardless, it didn't go well and as such /vst/ is playing this autumn. To sum up the last year of /vst/'s performance in the cup. Well, to put it bluntly /vst/'s currently more cooked than Sigurd was after the end of chapter 5 in FE4.
However, there is light at the end of the tunnel, /vst/ has found a new manager and for the first time since Summer 2023 which if I can remind you all was the last time /vst/ made an elite final day. Finally, /vst/ has a triumvirate as a management group once again and I have full confidence in the other two co managers to steer this team in the right direction

Anyways to anyone who doesn't know what the 4cc is
>What is 4chan Cup? 4chan Cup is a virtual Association Football tournament, played with AI vs AI on Professional Evolution Soccer by Konami, featuring teams made up of various 4chan boards playing against each other.

As I have already recapped the state of the team the link to the poll is here: https://forms.gle/rcq7j3QuX4fxoFbU7

If you got any questions about the team please go while and ask away in the thread
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>>2147716
Kek
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>>2147716
dumb but i like it
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Hello gamers. I have finished making the roster poll, this one is really big because of all the suggestions I got so please take your time in reading and voting.

If you are worried I will see your email I won't this is the setting I have on the poll, and if you don't have a jewgle account you can always make a burner. Sorry I have to use these forms, its the only form maker I know of which has picture capability.

https://forms.gle/wo3baKeZCdtXP8bWA
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>>2148968
When does the poll close?
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>>2149372
I'll keep it open until next friday

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>be me, gets ad from "MMORTS"
>2,5 dimensions, pay-to-accelerate, no combat, base is the same generic built-here (you can't create as you want)
>"MMO", you can ONLY raid ONE player at a time despite the whole ALLIANCES, EMPIRES theme
>it's just raid, no siege, again no combat, happens while you sleep
>keep looking for an actual MMORTS, Eve Online, 99% is mining, 1% is click-point (no real space combat)
When MMORTS games will be like in their trailers?
What level of technology must be reach to have them?
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>>2148898
>one of the greatest and unique games in history.
I love the stories and canon created by the players.
My problem is the combat is boring, really boring.
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>>2149719
>the combat is boring, really boring
How many small scale fights did you have? Which combat roles/ships have you tried?
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>>2149719
>>2149726
It's funny how EVE has extremely complex high-adrenaline PvP combat but only like 5% of the playerbase are ever engaging with it
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>>2149726
I wanted to recreate what I felt when I was a kid watching Ep III, so I expected a War Thunder-like combat or something better. Not just your typical 'point & click'.
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>>2131740
When RTS becomes good (IE never)

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>EVE Vanguard
>Dust 514 2.0, they've listened to the community about the previous mistakes
>MMO, not just MO, actually Massive
>evolving sandbox
>FPS, First-Person Shooter / Strategy (RTS in first-person)
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>>2131740
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Bump.
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>>2147948
buy an ad
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>>2149729
No.

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I just got into this game a few days ago and so far it's very good. it satisfies my XCOM 2 craving. I've never seen this game mentioned on here, how's the rest of the game? it has some funny racist references I've noticed sp far
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>>2137303
There's fan-made campaigns at least. Their mod tools were very robust

I haven't checked any out yet, been meaning to
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>>1963217
maybe Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun? Idk i haven't played it but i remember coming across something similar
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>>2137337
that's a completely different style of game unfortunately, a real-time stealth puzzler
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>>1963160
bump
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>>2137303
I hoped we'd get some sort of iterative sequel using the same engine and general gameplay but with a new setting, more mercs and other improvements, given that that's what the devs had done with Tropico prior. Evidently there was supposed to be some sort of DLC but the whole shitshow with THQ/Embracer led that to being quietly canceled and then of course the devs had to go get bought out by Paradox, so that's that.

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>Fire Emblem
Good gameplay, shit ass story
>Advance Wars
Good gameplay and okay story

The only reason why Fire Emblem is still alive is because of the units with monster titties, or am I missing something?
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>>2149563
More ambition than Nobunaga's.
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>>2149563
who cares?
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>>2149633
Me. The gaming development world is split into two regions the ‘West’ and Japan. The west can’t make good strategy games anymore so Japan taking an interest would be a positive.
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>>2149650
>the ‘West’ and Japan
China
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>>2149563
shame

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How do I get good at this game
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>>2146160
I would've said the same thing about the XCOM remake, but here we are. Maybe the stars will align ten years from now and we'll get another XCOM that's just as good as the rest.
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WHAT'S WITH THE FUCKING SHUTTERING
THE FPS IS STABLE, BUT IN SOME CUTSCENES IT FEELS LIKE MY PC IS GOING TO BRICK
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>>2146384
>we don't need to optimize, it's turn-based!
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>>2146384
the game is just a fucking mess
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>>2144458
xcomx EU was bug-free but xcom 2 had a ton of retarded bugs, never understood why people would play that on ironman over just having some self-restraint and not save scumming

Should I play these games?
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>>2147515
Also the learning cliff and the stack of history books you need to appreciate anything that's happening
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>>2147515
>you don't even do anything in this game you tell other people to do stuff for you
yeah that's called STRATEGY GAMES, man
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>>2146623
I enjoyed Iron Triangle.
I keep looking at the more modern ones, and all of them seem to be a mixed bag. One day when I have time and money to waste, I'll try them.
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>>2146847
SNES Koei games are the best way to play those titles
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>>2149593
>I keep looking at the more modern ones, and all of them seem to be a mixed bag.
Out of those only Ascension and Taishi are a mixed experience. SoI and Awakening are both very solid games.

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Can we decide on which civ is objectively the best?
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>>2147272
>he doesn't have a physical copy or crack
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>>2147272
>eula changes and the game being spyware now?
I think it’s right for people to be upset about it but Steam literally does the same thing.
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>>2145004
Civ 4 Colonization is the only game I can play over and over and not get bored. I can't even finish the others anymore.
4 and 5 management isn't engaging enough and 6 is just bullshit joyless math busywork.
Colonization is the perfect civ game, I'd pay a lot of money for a game with other eras but similar mechanics. I don't know why they abandoned it.
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>>2145004
3 4 5 and 6 all have good reasons for me to replay them (vanilla or modded), but I’ll be boring and say that IV is probably the best.
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>>2147272
Should work, if you're on a modern OS regardless of which version of the game you have installed you'll need to drop indirectsound into the folders detailed here to fix a sound/music bug:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Civilization_III#No_music_or_sound_effects_during_diplomacy

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How much randomness do you like in your strategy vidyas?
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>>2147931
krump yourself
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>>2140480
I think the best use of RNG was in World of Tanks (an otherwise shit game, don't play it).
Armor Penetration was a boolean result, you either bounced and did no damage, or pierced and did full damages.
Armor thickness was constant, but shell's armor penetration had some RNG.
The game was balanced (probably more by luck than anything) so that in 90% of all situations there was effectively no RNG: you were either guaranteed to pierce due to big gun/good angle/weakspot/etc or you were guaranteed to bounce.
RNG was only there when you picked a target that you should be able to 100% pierce, but decided to not wait for an optimal angle & distance.

For a XCOM/BB/etc type of game, it would like if hit% was pretty much always 100% or 0%, and the in-between an edge-case that could be solved by moving one just more tile.
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>>2147931
that's the new Ogre player in the Bögenhafen Brawlers isn't it?
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>>2146189
Fortuna is a skill.
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>>2149312
Yeah and get this... he's... ORANGE!

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I used to play a lot of strategy games, AoE2, AoM, Civ 4 and 5, Starcraft II (I was grandmaster), C&C red alert, some Total Wars. I haven't played anything in a few years, and I am now a boomer with slow reflexes. Recommend me something comfy and slow to play, maybe a paradox game, I haven't played any.
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>>2147947
Yeah do Warhammer 3.
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>>2147947
Hero's Hour is a nice triviality
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Thanks guys, and what about Stellaris? I heard it was chill and easy.
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>>2149620
It's pretty good just you either need to start with a small path or have a good pc because endgame lag is very bad
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>>2147947
YWNBAB

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SOUTHAG is out
This div is super fun
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>>2147015
>>2147055
maybe i will try ranked then.
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>struggle vs 119y
>watch a guide on the matchup, guide basically boils down to "spam atgms and spread them out to cover different angle and find side shots
>copy their exact layout on the exact map they use as a demonstration
>midgame push rolls through exactly like it does in the video
>all of my ATGMs miss and the tanks just push straight through
>my AA and fighters all miss their air cover so I can't use bombers or helis
>lose
This is the shit guides never talk about. How am I supposed to win from behind? How am I supposed to claw my way back into a match when RNG fucks me over? How do you win the air war when your missiles miss? How do you kill tanks when your ATGMs whiff? Literally what is the strategy here when dealing damage even in the best possible situation is a coinflip at best?
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>>2148145
ive had success in team games with backhand blows where 119y or other armored decks overextended themselves and either myself or a closely coordinated teammate would flank them. expect to lose a few if not a lot of units but the trade is usually worth it.
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>>2148145
quit for the day and come back tomorrow
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how am i supposed to use the hellcat in sd2? they miss 3 shots then die to everything in the game with AP. am i supposed to double vet them or single vet them and bring them in triplets? sometimes i'd bring them in doubles and they still fucking sucked.
everything else about 4th armored is fun, but i really miss my m10a1s from 2nd indian. i end up wanting to rip my hair out when i watch my hellcats.

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Greetings
In this thread I want share some of incoming games(that preferably have a demo). Check you wish list and share incoming titles that you expect to be good. Or the one that are little known and forgotten.
/vst/ demos thread.
I start with Kriegsfront Tactics, which is take on FM3 - mechs in semi vietnam on alternate Earth. It have a demo and its pretty good.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2851820/Kriegsfront_Tactics__Prologue/
Funny enough it have same demo in 2 separate locations - on game and on separate prologue site.
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>>2143898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XQU8k8XVAA
> Last night, the crying of the fanboys kept me awake...and I had a terrible vision. I saw the fall of our franchise: low budget remasters under a harsh sun... Historical Total War, gone! Why would CA send such a vision? They are not cruel; they have watched over us. We have had victories aplenty in game awards. Our community sail to all corners of the forums. Yet even now, I fear. I cannot help it. We are the envy of mobile gamers. They tell terrible lies about us. They do not understand, so they lie. But the Warhammer fanboys, they are the masters of falsehood. New Historical Total War will come, I am sure of it. So. I will have no more false visions...and I think the fanboys will be quiet tonight.
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>>2143668
>Hegemony Gold
solid game
with little more polish, better AI and diplo it could be amazing
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for some reasons demo is on itcho but I can't see it on steam
https://ularis-badler.itch.io/archrebel
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>>2145771
oh this looks cool
thanks :)
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>>2149602
You are welcome, enjoy
Noticed that this got a demo, it have Majesty 1 narrator(or someone similar) but game is more similar to Majesty 2(again)
3 missions demo

Started playing after some anon recommended it here and its good, nice quick rts (match dont usually take longer than 20 mins) with masssive ammount of units.
its basically free and i had some fun so far.
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>Visit BAR discord
>Go to General chat
>Nope.jpg
Are all discords so terrible or is it just indie games.
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>>2142611
discord as a whole is a grooming central
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>>2050505
ill play again after some months not touching the game, ill report back after 1 game of GLITTERS to give a fresh review of the game with some previous knowladge (im op)
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>>2149592
before that, ill present the
>195 degree angle theory of graphic design
apparently is a staple since devs from UK and RU all do it
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>>2149592
>this was my last game
kept forgotting hotkeys, its a game designed for dedicated players, you cant just drop into a game and play it out of muscle memory.

but its fun when you win and mechanically refined as an rts.

NOT FOR CASUALS

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Always found their existence quite a bit weird and somewhat deceiving, as someone who enjoys games like Stronghold, Populous 3 and BfME. They take cool historical periods and instead of dedicating themselves truly to the spectacle of war, instead force you to look upon some stupid map. Jesus.
I'm playing right now the Shogun Total War game, and I'm enjoying the following: unit sounds, authenticity and immersion, the music, primitive graphics and "difficult" controls.
Unfortunately, I am not really enjoying anything else about the game.
The combat in Total War games is also weird, the armies are fighting each other too slowly, you visually don't witness much dying and tragedy, you judge the situation by numbers, which is gay and retarded. Why does it never happen in these games that units can get slaughtered quickly? Archers barely do shit, ever. I mean, they obviously do something, but the audiovisual impact is so fkn poor.
Why do you retards like these games? You really don't feel the war going on in these games, because you don't even feel like a leader of men, just some soulless geometric shapes going into each other and slowly chipping away.
The Warhammer games on the PS1 are much better than these aesthetically trannified and castrated malformations that have gained immense popularity among zoomers. I had to butcher my friends list because my internet acquintences have betrayed their old-school ways by engaging with this genuinely repulsive garbage.
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>>2128993
total war is the epic battle game,OP is legit retarded
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>>2128841
>Why are medieval slugfests not like my Marvel movies
This may be one of the worst threads ever.
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So Empire got new DLC in 2025 but only for some mobile version I never heard of
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>>2141871
>>2146842
How could you even portray realistic time spans and distances using the RTS controls TW has?
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>>2147141
personal but
>Shogun 1, simple but best as wargame, pretty outdated
>Rome 1, most fun, old
>Shogun 2, decent, first good modern TW
>Three Kingdoms, best modern history TW(didn't play Pharaoh), pretty good with mods in record mode
>Medieval 2, most over rated TW,
>Empire, great ideas, terribly done, plenty of bugs
>Warhammer(especially 3), play more like RPG than TW, plenty of busywork, AI can't engage game systems

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Is there a more powerful or ferocious creature?
No, of course not, and you would be foolish to think otherwise.
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>>2148976
The jackets in the game's universe are bulletproof and shock absorbent according to flavour text. That probably evens the playing field a lot before even getting into ESP.
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>>2149418
>People can get shot 20 times and walk it off but if someone gets shot once in a cutscene they'll dramatically die on the spot, or at least get sent to the hospital on the verge of death.
Does this actually happen in Troubleshooter though? It seems like the only people we see getting downed with single bullets are the civilians who get killed by gang members but they obviously wouldn't have the equipment or training to survive that. There are several times when the game lets the player play out "unwinnable" fight sequences when they need a scripted death or near-death for the plot which is actually pretty cool compared to most games just having people die from getting shot once in a cutscene.

>>2149421
Damn, how much money is the white tiger gang making if they can afford to outfit all their members in bulletproof uniforms?
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>>2149502
Well Albus gets sniped and ends up on death's doorstep. And of course the police officer who Anne fails to heal.
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>>2149504
both of those were after prolonged combat so it makes sense were already fatigued and weakened from injuries they sustained, though it is possible to reach the first situation without ever taking damage during that mission
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>>2149504
Albus doesn't actually get sniped. The shot we hear is Mert getting countersniped before he can actually make the shot. Albus ends up in hospital because he overexerted himself holding the Tigers off.


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